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Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by VTJN(m): 4:07pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:I swear That Op brother should thank his star and his brother. I'm convince the brother must have been battling with depression. 38 years old man, that has absolutely nothing to his name. No certificate, no skills, no clothes, he lives under his father roof and eat mama thank you. Some people are saying his brother should apolise to him. How? He didn't beat him, he's not mocking him, he didn't disrespect him. How can you apologise to someone you didn't offend. Is it because he was crying? Haba! The brother mean well for him 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 4:07pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:1. Do you want to compare yourself to a righteous man who was thrown in prison? It was not the prayers of those whom you claim gathered and prayed for Peter that got Peter freed from Jail but the fact that Peter himself was a righteous man of God. You know this because so many others were thrown in jail and their stories did not end well at all. And they were all of them equally prayed for. Never compare your condition to that of a righteous man. 2. You are a testimony to what exactly? 3. Problems with you churchians is that you don't even realize that the very things you believe directly contradict the declarations of God Himself. You make God out to be a liar every time you pretend God does what God says He will not do. 4. You shouldn't even advise him to pray especially if because no good(righteousness) will come from an unrighteous man praying prayers that are abominations to God. 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Biodun556(m): 5:18pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I can relate The depression do becloud someone and does not allow him to reason ahead He could be suffering from depression as a result of family problems long time ago. First child usually inherit depression if a family is not balance and in poverty because he or she will be the one the parents will sending hear and there believing that other children are still small. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 5:30pm On May 13, 2023 |
Biodun556:I no dey use depression play at all. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Tealcrestmedia(m): 5:52pm On May 13, 2023 |
DownTime44:Responded |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by ElijahIme1992(m): 6:29pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:looooool Oh God help this sister to see the truth, our righteousness is like a filthy rag before God(Isaiah 64v6, Romans 3v19-23) James and Peter were both imprisoned, James was killed and Peter was saved, so by ur word James was not righteous but Peter was? Sister Peter was not saved becos he was righteous but by the mercy of God through the intercessory prayer of the Church on his behalf, God's mercy is for all, HE is always there to answer, all u need do is call on HIM. How is testifying of the goodness of God in my life contradicting the declaration of God? Give thanks to the Lord, make HIS deeds known among the people (Psalm 105v1-5), When Jesus healed the ten lepers, it was only one that came back to glorify the name of the Lord and Jesus gave him total restoration(Luke 17 vs 11-19) I am not a churchian, I don't do church or religion what I have is a genuine fellowship with God. 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 6:32pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:See wetin our education system in Nigeria has done to the minds of Nigerians abeg! In Romans 3 vs 10 - 18 Paul quotes from various parts of scripture in his attempt to explain to his brethren that they were in fact the wicked and evil generation to the destroyed by God. Yes, at that point in time, God's plan was to destroy the rest of Israel — the Nation of Judah aka the Jews— and that plan was heralded by the coming of Jesus Christ. Below, we see that what Paul wrote in that passage was of the evil people who were against God. ■ Romans 3 vs 10 - 12 quotes Psalm 53 where David writes about the evil people who do terrible things. 1 Only fools think there is no God. People like that are evil and do terrible things. They never do what is right.The above passage clearly says that this prophecy was said of the evil people aka the fools who convinced themselves that God does not exist. You know this from reading verse 4 where God highlights the way evil people treat His people. ■ Romans 3 vs 13 a Paul references David's prayer against his enemies found in Psalm 5 8 Lord, show me your right way of living and make it easy for me to follow. People are looking for my weaknesses, so show me how you want me to live.■ Romans 3 vs 13 b quotes from Psalm 140 where David prays to God regarding the evil people 1 Lord, save me from people who are evil. Protect me from those who are cruel,■ Romans 13 vs 15 quotes from Proverbs 1 which is a warning against evil people 10 My son, those who love to do wrong will try to trick you. Don’t listen to them.■ Romans 13 vs 16 - 17 references Isaiah's writing on the state of the evil people, whose sins separate them from God 1 Look, the Lord’s power is enough to save you. He can hear you when you ask him for help.■ Romans 13 vs 18 references Psalm 18 where David writes of the evil people and the workings of their minds. 1 Deep in the hearts of the wicked a voice tells them to do wrong. They have no respect for God. As you can see, every single passage of Scripture that was quoted by Paul in that context was written in reference to people who do evil. And of course, there are none righteous among the evil people for they have all sinned. 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by ElijahIme1992(m): 6:37pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Let me ask you a question, do you believe that God will answer your prayers if you pray? 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 6:56pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:As for what is written in Isaiah 64, lets first take a look at what God said in Isaiah 59 regarding the prayers of the unrighteous, to get you a better idea of what Isaiah is saying in Isaiah 64, ■ In the passage below from Isaiah 59, God explains that it is your sins that separate you from Him. 1 Look, the Lord’s power is enough to save you. He can hear you when you ask him for help.Your sins, born of your unholiness, taint everything you do and offer to God rendering them an abomination hence the reason why God hears but does not answer your pleas. ■God repeated the same in Isaiah 1 11 The Lord says, “Why do you continue giving me all these sacrifices? I have had enough of your sacrifices of rams and the fat from well-fed animals. I don’t want the blood of those bulls, sheep, and goats.Again, your sins render all your offerings and sacrifices unacceptable to God because as you are unholy, so also is everything you offer up to God rendered unholy, an abomination to God. Sin makes filthy all that which you offer up to God. ■ So when in Isaiah 64, in his lament, the prophet cries out that indeed the people's offerings, including their good works, are rendered unacceptable by your sins, Isaiah said that with the knowledge God does not accept anything — including good works aka works of righteousness — offered to God by unrighteous beings. 1 If you would tear open the skies and come down to earth, then everything would change. Mountains would melt before you. * Always read a verse in context and never let soundbites run away with you! 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 6:58pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:You see, Scripture states that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the pleas and requests and every petition, praise, offering, work, plea, sacrifice, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by their sins(disobedience/unholiness) and are hence an abomination to God. So, what is definite is that even your many pleas for the forgiveness of sins are not answered by God given that God made no special exemptions for that kind of plea. No amount of praying can cause God to change His mind regarding that which concerns the unrighteous by the way. So if you are thinking of prescribing more prayers that only means you really don't understand or know God at all. God, however, openly bragged about how He only answers the prayers of the righteous; He delights in granting them the desires of their heart meaning that they are those who are loved by Him. For this very reason, Jesus Christ urged His followers to seek first the Kingdom of God and God's Righteousness in order that all things— the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(holiness), answers to prayers included—shall be added on to them. And as Jesus Christ explained in His Gospel, the only way to become Holy, and then also Righteous, is by way of continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, god's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of god - John 8 vs 31 - 36 & John 14 vs 15 - 23. Jesus Christ is the only way. Obedience to the Truth of God is the one and only path to righteousness. No amount of praying and other religious rituals can accomplish that. God deals indirectly with the unrighteous, the same way He deals with the unbelievers including the wicked and the ungrateful and that is by pouring out His mercy and kindness on them daily. So every time as an unrighteous you feel that God has answered your prayer know that at that same moment, or moments before that, God also provided the same mercy or similar to someone else across the world — or maybe just across from you— who does not even believe in God, nor asked God for anything. So, if answers from God are what you seek, then do what Jesus Christ said you should, which is to seek first the Kingdom of God(holiness), and then God's righteousness, in order that all these things —the blessings and rewards of the Kingdom of God(including answers to prayers) can be added to you. So, to answer your question, I am still unrighteous and that means God does not answer my prayers. Either that or God is a liar! |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 7:07pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:1. Wrong! The righteous eventually die but God does not save them because of the prayers of others but instead according to His own plan for their lives. A righteous man essentially does not need your prayers — the disciples never did pray for Jesus Christ, did they? Peter was righteous and his life existed wholly in the hand of God and not the whims of others. That is one of the benefits of righteousness. Your intercessory prayers are meaningless because God decides the fate of the righteous, not your prayer rituals. 2. So what you are saying is that God who said He will not answer the prayers of the unrighteous is a liar? 3. Well, your testimonies claim that God answered your prayers in your unrighteousness. That is akin to calling God a liar! You can make these deeds known without making God out to be a liar, can you not? The Leper that went back did not go back to make God seem a liar, did he? 4. You have a genuine fellowship yet your ideas are out of the pages of the doctrines and traditions of the Churchians, as opposed to scripture, interesting! |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Octopusssy(f): 7:28pm On May 13, 2023 |
Please people should stop arguing with Kobojunkie. She reads her bible through the smoky haze of the finest grown Kwale weed, so arguing with her is an exercise in futility which serves no purpose apart from derailing the entire thread. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by DownTime44: 9:06pm On May 13, 2023 |
albert2512:sorry he doesn't have a liscence |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by ElijahIme1992(m): 10:53pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:abeg hu dey teach una dis kind thing, so that means u don't pray? So wen will u be righteous? |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 10:56pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:Let's continue on another thread please so we don't continue derailing OP's thread. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by ElijahIme1992(m): 11:03pm On May 13, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:I thought nobody will notice na because it's almost 13 pages long, who will have the time to go tru all 13 pages? But answer my question do u pray? 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Kobojunkie: 11:08pm On May 13, 2023 |
ElijahIme1992:https://www.nairaland.com/4613252/pray-always-never-lose-hope#123121539 |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by DownTime44: 5:49am On May 14, 2023 |
Tealcrestmedia:Alright. Many thanks. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by VTJN(m): 6:08am On May 14, 2023 |
gazilion:morning bro. Please don't withdraw your support to Op and his brother. I may not be in their shoe but i understand what they are passing through. I guess someone has already picked interest in helping Op brother learn a skill in his organisation. You can find out from Op who that person is in particular, maybe you can confirm from that person before helping yourself. You can even meet them in person to confirm yourself since Op said they live in Lagos. Personally i don't think Op will want to provide his brother to learn a skill if he is not genuine. Please don't withdraw your support. Happy Sunday. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by albert2512: 10:32am On May 14, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I don't get your point. Do u have any help you can render? If you don't, shutup! I did my licence in a state for 12k. What are you now saying? |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Caseless: 3:23pm On May 14, 2023 |
May God help you. You're a good brother. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Shaneroberts: 1:54pm On May 15, 2023 |
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Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by calmandwild101(m): 11:11pm On May 15, 2023 |
DownTime44:Honestly you are one in thousand of a human being.For your selfless and love for your family is really rare this days.you did the right thing.all you need now is to help him be looking out for a work and make sure you spend some valuable time with him be trying to give him some OT about life here in Nigeria since it seems you are more exposed than him.my little advice tho. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by calmandwild101(m): 11:17pm On May 15, 2023 |
Wawelexy:Sorry to disagree with you. Sometimes in life,all we need is one person that will talk us out,show us the way and stand with us during the battle,all these can make us become winner. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by VTJN(m): 6:45am On May 20, 2023 |
albert2512:I don't think Op brother can get a liscence for 12k in this country o. He lives in Lagos. I doubt he can get a driver's license for 12k |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by albert2512: 10:29am On May 20, 2023 |
VTJN: Did mine in Jos boss. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by VTJN(m): 1:25pm On May 20, 2023 |
albert2512:now you're talking You can't get driver's liscence for 12k in Lagos. I doubt if the brother can afford getting a driver's license in Lagos. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by grandstar(m): 10:40pm On May 23, 2023 |
Olarewaju89: Stop blaming spiritual. The senior brother has a bad mindset. My dad had a partner whose brothers were lazy. No matter what he did for them, they still were just parasites, instead of launching on their own. I know of a guy, a draughtsman whose brother in the UK was sending him money to build a house for him in Nigeria. When his brother returned and realized his brother and basically scammed him, he cut him off. Last time I saw this his brother, he looked close to being destitute. Some people are simply not responsible, or lazy, or parasitic or entitled or unintelligent. This guy's brother has no brains. He was probably limited by the environment (Ajegunle) he grew up in. I won't be surprised if he knew many conductors and one day hoped to use this medium to own a bus. I grew up in Alausa. My neighbourhood was right beside a slum. Lots of bad boys chasing the wind. You see guys with huge potential walking with fools. Bad role models everywhere. The vast majority lacked the discipline to make their lives better. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by TreasureJunky: 8:36am On May 24, 2023 |
Can your brother work as a handler in a manufacturing company? I have work for him, the pay is about 50k per month, but he must have physical strength. The location is oregun Ikeja. Maybe I can be of help to your brother.. The condition of your brother needs not just advice, but practical help |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by enonche85(m): 12:39pm On May 24, 2023 |
Olarewaju89: You are very correct sir. 1 Like |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by enonche85(m): 12:44pm On May 24, 2023 |
grandstar: You obviously know nothing about life and the spirituality behind it. |
Re: I Had Been Restless Having A Chat With My Elder Brother by Panda7: 1:03pm On May 24, 2023 |
its hard being a male with no family help or any startup idea but your brother should try to program his life on how he wants to live instead of walking/working aimlessly about. |
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