PointB:

In order words, it doesn't matter how many Yorubas are deliberated targeted for religious reason in the Boko Haram vs MEND and Akhwat Akwop encounter, provided the Yorubas in the SW are not 'affected.'

Warped and disappointing, very disturbing logic coming from you!

Why would Yoruba be targeted for religious reasons in a BH vs. Mend vs. Akhwat encounter?

Lmao.

Man, you are grasping for straws here dude.

Anyway, Mend will never battle BH simply because they don't even operate in the same territory. Unless you just mean Mend bombing some Northern buildings. In which case it is Mend killing random innocent abokis, not BH.

'none of this concerns me' a classic Nigerian approach to issues. Let me try to simplify it

When we had failed states surrounding us up north( chad, Niger etc) non of it concerns Nigeria, now we have some miscreants from ther causing trouble in 9ja.

When mend were blowing up places in the 9ja delta, pple from other parts of the country said non of it concerns me, until other criminals from other part noticed that crime pays in 9ja and they also took up arms,

Now when awka, BH and others cause mayhem let ya' all keep thinking it don't concerns u.

For me nobody has blown any thing up here where I stay, but as we say here 'be mindful of a crisis that when it starts consumes not only the wrongdoers',

@Ekt_bear.

No, im not saying you should lynch people, infact im against such actions.

All i'm saying is that its wise to prepare for war, while hoping for peace,

Beaf:

If there is war, the North might not be the one to attempt to sieze Lagos if the people are sitting on the fence. The SW is one of the flanks of the South and Lagos is very strategic for its ports and borders. You can't afford to sit on the fence, bruv.

This is where the yorubas are awaiting.Lie I told you earlier,any war in Nigeria will be to protect yoruba territory and nothing else.that was why ojuku failed when he ventured into yorubaland but I still don't know who will emancipate yorubas this time around if we continue with our careful assessment of events in nigeria ?

islamrules:

Lagos is far from the North. If hausas will claim any yoruba land.

It will be Jebba or Kwara state.


Habba do you have map?

How is it possible for hausas militants to travel on sea to Lagos ?

Do they have sea in Kano.

Abeg leave Lagos out. Talk about another topic. This doesnt make any sense.

Yes I admit, they will fight in Lagos, as normal but cant take Lagos from the owner.

Lai lai. They are many in Lagos just as Yorubas are many in Kano and Kaduna. Does it means Yoruba can take Kano from Hausa.

Yorubas will only fight in Kano, but not take Kano from Hausa. That is the reality!

Guy, read what I said again.

If there is war, the North might not be the one to attempt to sieze Lagos if the people are sitting on the fence. The SW is one of the flanks of the South and Lagos is very strategic for its ports and borders. You can't afford to sit on the fence, bruv.

I'm saying its best not to sit on the fence or comment like you are not part of the country (not you as a person, but most of your brothers).

^^^
Correct talk beaf, sitting on the fence di kwa risky!

Kai see madness for nija, As if all these paper tigers no go be the first to ran ip I komot my knife,
Any wai, Una dey talk like una no get gomment.

ekt_bear:


Why would Yoruba be targeted for religious reasons in a BH vs. Mend vs. Akhwat encounter?

Lmao.

Man, you are grasping for straws here dude.

Anyway, Mend will never battle BH simply because they don't even operate in the same territory. Unless you just mean Mend bombing some Northern buildings. In which case it is Mend killing random innocent abokis, not BH.

Sorry man,
There is no way yorubas will be targeted in religious crisis. All sides in the fracas will avoid Yorubas because yorubas are neither christians nor muslims, they are all animists!   Wonderful!

You can have the straw man; I don't need any!

~Bluetooth:

This is where the yorubas are awaiting.Lie I told you earlier,any war in Nigeria will be to protect yoruba territory and nothing else.that was why ojuku failed when he ventured into yorubaland but I still don't know who will emancipate yorubas this time around if we continue with our careful assessment of events in nigeria ?

Nobody will take chances leaving their flanks open to boko haram, because it is their neighbours territory and the neighbour is sitting on the fence, counting their toes and enjoying sepe while bullets are flying.

Forget about Ojukwu, this is a whole different ball game. The President is from the SS, the COAS is from the SE. On top of that, JTF by far the country's most sophisticated and equipped force is under SS command. If Lagos sits on the fence, they will simply come in and get it before aboki does.

@POintB,

Very funny guy you must be. Are yoruba's more animist than the Bini's?

Sleepwalking na bad thing i tell u. lol

Also,

I wonder how someone can compare the '67-'70 civil war to what is happening now. Very unperceptive, if you ask me.

Eyin omo yoruba wake up o.

Mai-suya:

Kai see madness for nija,  As if all these paper tigers no go be the first to ran ip I komot my knife,
Any wai,  Una dey talk like una no get gomment.

Which gomment aboki ?

In a nutshell, this is two people A and B fighting in the middle of the street, and trying to get person C (a dude going to the grocery store) to intervene on one side or another.

Neither A or B know C from Adam.

C's best bet is to observe and watch for a bit, but probably run his initial errand (grocery store.)

A and B of course, it is strategic for them to pretend as if C has any interest in the fight.

A will say, "If you don't help me, you are sitting on the fence."

B will say, "C ronu, oh"

^^^Knock knock, wake up sleepwalker,

Haba bulutoot, I no be una say our prsido na d median? In pact one op my female colleague por work say she dey suspect how fifle just dey die commit for road or go prison for our presido,

Any way, dats ur gomment!

Mai-suya:

Haba bulutoot, I no be una say our prsido na d median? In pact one op my female colleague por work say she dey suspect how fifle just dey die commit for road or go prison for our presido,

Any way, dats your gomment!

Long time aboki, welcome back

Whitehorse:

^^^Knock knock, wake up sleepwalker,

Lol!

^^^Knock knock, wake up sleepwalker,

We like our position now.

Its not that we wont fight!

But fight at the right time. There is no war now except some criminals being sponsored by Northerners.

This can be handled by Nigerian governemnt and police. Its only that the governement is the problem. They see the sponsors of boko-haram as touch-not.

GEJ announced last month that those people behind boko-aram are ex-military head of state. Since then, I have realized that Boko-Haram is not a problem.
Its only we dont have a good president.

Like I told you, Yorubas analyzes situations well!

Boko haram is not any problem.

^^^
Okey enjoy your sleep(walking) . No say we no tell you o, cause when u wake up e fit come be like say na dream you still dey,

Case closed

islamrules:

We like our position now.

Its not that we wont fight!

But fight at the right time. There is no war now except some criminals being sponsored by Northerners.

This can be handled by Nigerian governemnt and police. Its only that the governement is the problem. They see the sponsors of boko-haram as touch-not.

GEJ announced last month that those people behind boko-aram are ex-military head of state. Since then, I have realized that Boko-Haram is not a problem.
Its only we dont have a good president.

Like I told you, Yorubas analyzes situations well!

Boko haram is not any problem.

Ex-military head of state, foreign support, al qaeda, plus generals in the army have been arrested for involvement with boko haram. . . And you think the problem is minor or it cannot lead to war?! You've analyzed that? Lol! Please wake up, danger is at the door.

I even wonder how person A has so much time to be giving person C advice.

Shouldn't he be spending more time bobbing and weaving rather than giving unsolicited advice to 3rd parties?

That style of boxing where you don't focus usually leads to getting knocked the F out. Reminds me a bit of the Mayweather fight two weekends ago, heh.

Ya'll face your business, and we'll face ours.

ekt_bear:

In a nutshell, this is two people A and B fighting in the middle of the street, and trying to get person C (a dude going to the grocery store) to intervene on one side or another.

Neither A or B know C from Adam.

C's best bet is to observe and watch for a bit, but probably run his initial errand (grocery store.)

A and B of course, it is strategic for them to pretend as if C has any interest in the fight.

A will say, "If you don't help me, you are sitting on the fence."

B will say, "C ronu, oh"

This is some bull crap scenario you are painting. It's is funnier because because the theater of war is gradually been chosen while you recite ABC like a pupil. In any case, since you understand ABC better that commonsense. Let me use your ABC to explain the scenario to you.

BACK GROUND
A,B,C are same neighbors with plenty children in with different religious leaning.

A is over 80% muslim, less than 20% christian
B is over 90% christian, and less than 10% muslim
C is 60% christian and less than 40% muslim

A, B, and C have little or no trust for one another.

PRE-CONFLICT

A became belligerent, and wanted to impose his religion on the tolerant B, C
B, said NO WAY
C said I don't care, it concern me not.

A and B decided to slug it out
B fortified, took the initiative even set-up fortress in A territories

CONFLICT

Due to the religious dimension of the the conflict

A attacks both B and C
(He attack his guest B , because he is a muslim)
(He attacks his guest  C because he is a fake muslim or a christian)

B retaliate against A because A is a Christian
B attack C, because he failed to accept that C is a 'fake' muslim.
C insist, that it is not happening at his home, so he is 'neutral'

COUNTING THE COST.

A - (Muslim) single casualty
B - (Christian)single casualty
c - (Both) Double casualty

MORAL OF THE STORY/CONCLUSION

Never be caught in the middle!






Thank goodness, the real yoruba people that are my acquaintance dont think like you.

Ex-military head of state, foreign support, al qaeda, plus generals in the army have been arrested for involvement with boko haram. . . And you think the problem is minor or it cannot lead to war?! You've analyzed that? Lol! Please wake up, danger is at the door.

That is why it is not an issue when we change the president. Do you think incompetency of a president can break up Nigeria ?

No, they dear not try it with Obasanjo - Our best president ever compared to Yaradua/GEJ.

Once the FG has gotten to the root of the matter, I dont see anything delaying them from making arrest.

This is still a small issue!

Ekubear, bluetooth and all

The point is, BE YOUR BROTHER'S KEEPER! An attack on SS or SE should be seen as an attack on the SOUTH! A Yoruba man's life is not more precious than a SSoutherner's life. One day, this lackluster attitude will bite you in the a55. The SW needs to be decisive!

@Point B
Lol, welcome back EZEUCHE!!!

How can the SW be a "buffer zone"?? It does not make sense! In a war, they will choose a side.

Absolutely hilarious, I will say this only once because in my opinion I think "SOME" Yoruba are delusional and suffer from a FATAL CONCEIT.

The position of abstaining, sitting on the fence, or 'ronu-ing' as I fondly put it (LOL) is not going to all of a sudden enable the Yoruba to:

(a) Mobilise a well organised homogenous Militia Unit out of the rabble we currently have, e.g. OPC - a front for Agbero's and area boys, this takes time and planning. It is not something that can be done overnight because we wake up overnight to find our women are being brutally gang raped, and our children are being slaughtered, and our homes are being bombed or burnt out. Especially a militia Unit that cannot be compromised by individal comprising members by bribery. My point being this kind of command structure requires planing and awareness.

(b) Or generate large cash storage of modern weaponry needed to defend ourselves. I suppose some believe we can do this overnight, this makes me laugh so much because it is strategically elementary, especially considering that other factions and regions are already armed or arming themselves.

@PointB: This is (mostly) a political struggle between some elements in the core north and those in the PDP. It is a political struggle, not an ethnic or religious one, to me. I don't care about either of these two factions struggling.

@jason123: There is no "South." When was there one?

I have no clue why I'm supposed to be supporting some middle belt group fighting a core north group, with the middle belt group's objective that political power should rotate to the east after GEJ.

Why do I care about any of that? How does that benefit me? Of what relevance are their goals to mine?

ShangoThor:

Absolutely hilarious, I will say this only once because in my opinion I think "SOME" Yoruba are delusional and suffer from a FATAL CONCEIT.

The position of abstaining, sitting on the fence, or 'ronu-ing' as I fondly put it (LOL) is not going to all of a sudden enable the Yoruba to:

(a) Mobilise a well organised homogenous Militia Unit out of the rabble we currently have, e.g. OPC - a front for Agbero's and area boys, this takes time and planning. It is not something that can be done overnight because we wake up overnight to find our women are being brutally gang violated, and our children are being slaughtered, and our homes are being bombed or burnt out. Especially a militia Unit that cannot be compromised by individal comprising members by bribery. My point being this kind of command structure requires planing and awareness.

(b) Or generate large cash storage of modern weaponry needed to defend ourselves. I suppose some believe we can do this overnight, this makes me laugh so much because it is strategically elementary, especially considering that other factions and regions are already armed or arming themselves. 

Ah.

Dude, I'm totally in support of building a militia. 100%, absolutely. Something that should be done anyways, regardless of the current events.

But that doesn't mean I'd use those resources on either of the actors in this struggle. I don't care about either of them.

ShangoThor:

Absolutely hilarious, I will say this only once because in my opinion I think "SOME" Yoruba are delusional and suffer from a FATAL CONCEIT.

The position of abstaining, sitting on the fence, or 'ronu-ing' as I fondly put it (LOL) is not going to all of a sudden enable the Yoruba to:

(a) Mobilise a well organised homogenous Militia Unit out of the rabble we currently have, e.g. OPC - a front for Agbero's and area boys, this takes time and planning. It is not something that can be done overnight because we wake up overnight to find our women are being brutally gang violated, and our children are being slaughtered, and our homes are being bombed or burnt out. Especially a militia Unit that cannot be compromised by individal comprising members by bribery. My point being this kind of command structure requires planing and awareness.

(b) Or generate large cash storage of modern weaponry needed to defend ourselves. I suppose some believe we can do this overnight, this makes me laugh so much because it is strategically elementary, especially considering that other factions and regions are already armed or arming themselves.  

VERY WELL SAID!!!

ekt_bear:

@PointB: This is (mostly) a political struggle between some elements in the core north and those in the PDP. It is a political struggle, not an ethnic or religious one, to me. I don't care about either of these two factions struggling.

@jason123: There is no "South." When was there one?

I have no clue why I'm supposed to be supporting some middle belt group fighting a core north group, with the middle belt group's objective that political power should rotate to the east after GEJ.

Why do I care about any of that? How does that benefit me? Of what relevance are their goals to mine?

It WILL benefit you, not just you but your generations. I need not spell it out. Think about it! From rapid development to reduction in religious related genocides and crimes to freedom to go anywhere without the fear of being killed. I can go on and on!

Sitting on the fence leaves the SW vulnerable!

islamrules:

That is why it is not an issue when we change the president. Do you think incompetency of a president can break up Nigeria ?

No, they dear not try it with Obasanjo - Our best president ever compared to Yaradua/GEJ.

Once the FG has gotten to the root of the matter, I dont see anything delaying them from making arrest.

This is still a small issue!

Really?
What did Obasanjo do about sharia? Sharia started in Obj's time as a challenge to his power and he told us it would fizzle out, has it? Baba Fugu clearly said that boko haram started with sharia during Obj's time.
Stop making impossible scenario's up. Mek I hear word jare!

I am not advocating sitting on the fence.

I'm saying:

A) We don't give a crap about either of these other 2 or 3 sides. Don't intervene to help any of them, since none of them concern you.
B) However, still be ready to defend yourself and your interests as necessary.

I think you guys are advocating (B) (which I agree with), but also want to intervene to help one of the actors (which I don't agree with.)

If you are advocating picking a side, you sure as hell better come up with some good arguments in favor of this.

And not fluffy bulls1t like "The South", etc, etc.

ekt_bear:

I am not advocating sitting on the fence.

I'm saying:

A) We don't give a crap about either of these other 2 or 3 sides. Don't intervene to help any of them, since none of them concern you.
B) However, still be ready to defend yourself and your interests as necessary.

I think you guys are advocating (B) (which I agree with), but also want to intervene to help one of the actors (which I don't agree with.)

If you are advocating picking a side, you sure as hell better come up with some good arguments in favor of this.

And not fluffy bulls1t like "The South", etc, etc.

First question, are Itsekiris and Edos (particularly Binis who have Odua heritage) not in the SS? Are Olukunmis not in the SS?? Are they not your "interest"? Are Ilajes not in Delta,SS??

Let's start from there!

jason123:

First question, are Itsekiris and Edos (particularly Binis who have Odua heritage) not in the SS? Are Olukunmis not in the SS?? Are they not your "interest"? Are Ilajes not in Delta,SS??

Let's start from there!

Bingo!