Westman001:


The Kings appointed by the governors are just puppet to governance so they could bend the people to their wish, using their own kings.

More reason that shows we are lost as people. The king supposed be the closest to the people, fight for their course more than any house rep member would.

But greed and money have made some Kings sell their ancestral power. And it could only get worst if redress is not taken.

I'm gobsmacked by your intelligence.

RTID:
people go just open mouth wahhh


This same you like European countries
Then go to south sudan and stay

People like you always want to complain

Stay in your village okayyyy.

I'm trying hard to understand the point in this your comment. Do you mind clarifying your point? Oh, and try being a bit more civil this time. We no dey fight.

Someone said dethroning Emirs has been happening in Kano before now, and I took that correction immediately. You can tow same path and educate me.

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God's Chosen King
2 Why do the nations plan rebellion?
Why do people make their useless plots?
2 Their kings revolt,
their rulers plot together against the Lord
and against the king he chose.
3 “Let us free ourselves from their rule,” they say;
“let us throw off their control.”

4 From his throne in heaven the Lord laughs
and mocks their feeble plans.
5 Then he warns them in anger
and terrifies them with his fury.
6 “On Zion,[a] my sacred hill,” he says,
“I have installed my king.”

7 “I will announce,” says the king, “what the Lord has declared.
He said to me: ‘You are my son;
today I have become your father.
8 Ask, and I will give you all the nations;
the whole earth will be yours.
9 You will break them with an iron rod;
you will shatter them in pieces like a clay pot.’”

10 Now listen to this warning, you kings;
learn this lesson, you rulers of the world:
11 Serve the Lord with fear;
tremble 12 and bow down to him;[b]
or else his anger will be quickly aroused,
and you will suddenly die.
Happy are all who go to him for protection.

Is Ogboni the Illuminati too?

justlovesfarmin:


Same one that married two sisters?

Marrying two sisters is not actually a taboo in many cultures. Some tribes just avoid it.
If you are a Christian, Jacob married Rachel and Leah, daughters of Laban.

Jacob and Laban were even first cousins.

If you are a Muslim, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi married daughter of his uncle, late Emir Ado Bayero, whose sons are current Emir of Kano and Emir of Bichi. Muslims regularly marry their first cousins.

Oba Ewuare I Ogidigan who reigned from 1440 to 1473 also married two sisters, albeit under a different circumstance. In Benin, traditional practices don't just happen for nothing, there is history behind it.

In parts of Malawi, if you marry a woman and you turn out to be a good husband, your in-laws may reward you with a sister or cousin of your wife as a second wife.

So I have given you good examples of various acceptable practices in history and the present . So if you want to criticise Benin monarchy, find another flimsy excuse.

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
That is why the Benin kingdom remain the best

Come to Benin city and see real monarchy

That is why the oba of Benin is the most feared and respected oba in the whole of West Africa

Dey deceive yourself, as at today in Nigeria, Ooni of ife and sultan of soloto are the life chairmen and co chairmen of all traditional rulers in Nigeria,
Oba of Benin can only compare with the likes of alake of egba, awujale of ijebu, osemawe of Ondo, owa obokun of ijesaland, etc

Ifa na still person now,
Abi no be person go talk wetin ifa talk nii

He too met the governor...make una dey deceive una people.

TOPMAN4LIFE:

Dey deceive yourself, as at today in Nigeria, Ooni of ife and sultan of soloto are the life chairmen and co chairmen of all traditional rulers in Nigeria,
Oba of Benin can only compare with the likes of alake of egba, awujale of ijebu, osemawe of Ondo, owa obokun of ijesaland, etc

Look, Benin monarchy preceded Nigeria and will also outlive it. Do you think Benin monarchy relies on corrupt Nigerian politics for relevance? The voters population strength mathematics of 9ja politicians? Did you observe that Oba of Benin doesn't even attend many of these jamborees Nigerian kings do in Abuja now and then?

When Benin Monarchy became the first country to recognise Brazilian independence from Portugal in 1823, before USA and Argentina, it didn't need any other tribe to do the right thing. Today, both Argentina and USA like to claim first position but Brazilian govt are emphatic that Benin did first.

Westman001:
Reading the Oba transcript is disgusting

According to tradition and culture of the Yoruba people it is very wrong for a king to be appointed. It is a monarchy system of ruling. The PM does not appoint the King or Queen of England.

This part of the world just take civilization wrongly and blindly. If proper redress is not taken, Yoruba would lost it customs.

The Oluwo just go and display his already known arrogance and ignoramuses.

Is it Ifa that appoint King or Queen in England?
You like to live in deceit, a King is telling you how it works, you are giving excuses. Even from ancient days, Ibadan land never engage Ifa to pick King, it is turn by turn, each family representative on queue to throne

Emperordynasty:
I respect real royalty
Even when the British deposed Ovonwramen,The Benin people defied their then masters and refused that a puppet of the British be seated on that throne,
That’s real royalty even the British could not break the line of succession that has lasted for over 1000years
The present Oba is the 44th monarch from that one line since Eweka 1

And someone will say A governor can depose the Oba of Benin
The Governor can command it, but who will enforce it
No Benin soldier,civil servant,politician will partake of it,no one will even dare to take over the throne
Not even the Chiefs

As roggerd as Benin is as a state with terrible issues with violence ,dem no dey carry an near Oba Palace

Oba ghatokpe e abeg!!!

Stop capping! I'm from Edo State, and I'll advice you never to underestimate the power of government!

If the Oba of Benin "pass his boundary", Hausa soldiers who don't care about the Benin tradition will be sent to level the Palace.

Even the Oba knows and will never be in the black book of the government.

I repeat, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT!

drlaykay:
Obas are chosen by kingmakers who follow the directives of the ifa and the tradition. However, the Nigeria constitution has given final approval to the governor.

Now the twist is this, once the kingmakers present their choice to the governor, it could be overturned by the governor. And many Nigerian governors, being the politicians that they are, they often politicize the process ruling against people who they believe are political enemies. They might ask the kingmakers to make a different choice for political reasons.

Aside that, they go with the choices of the kingmaker.

OK.
But in many places such as most of Edo and a small part of Ondo, the king's firstborn son is crown prince from birth.
Nothing any kingmaker or governor can do about. Only death can change that.

Therefore, such "kings in waiting from birth" have no reason be to beholden to any politician.

For example, Benin has no kingmakers but king crowners. The Governor only rubberstamps the coronation by presenting staff of office. After that, you will never see the Oba ever touch so called staff of office. Na just symbol from constitution.

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
That is why the Benin kingdom remain the best

Come to Benin city and see real monarchy

That is why the oba of Benin is the most feared and respected oba in the whole of West Africa

Even a LGA chairman has the power to remove your Oba

TOPMAN4LIFE:

Dey deceive yourself, as at today in Nigeria, Ooni of ife and sultan of soloto are the life chairmen and co chairmen of all traditional rulers in Nigeria,
Oba of Benin can only compare with the likes of alake of egba, awujale of ijebu, osemawe of Ondo, owa obokun of ijesaland, etc

Those are mere political positions! The Oba of Benin is more revered than these traditional rulers!

phayvoursky:
Imagine governors picking kings😀

Edo tradition laughing at these guys😃😃😃

Edo has been left behind in modernist times,no wonder they still adore fetish fractices when others are enjoying the allure of modernity.

TsbAfrica:
This funky oba... Now I see why he carries himself in that manner. He has been injected with westernization fully.

But the nigga is absolutely correct

There is no Oba in Yoruba land that will say Ifa picked him. It is after the governor picked you that you now become a king. Ifa doesn’t have any power over the governor. May be you watch too much Nollywood movies.

coputa:
Edo has been left behind in modernist times,no wonder they still adore fetish fractices when others are enjoying the allure of modernity.

Is that not why it is called Bini tradition and not Bini modernity?

By the way, who came up with "modernity"?

slawomir:
Damnnn niggar
That is why the Benin kingdom remain the best

Come to Benin city and see real monarchy

That is why the oba of Benin is the most feared and respected oba in the whole of West Africa

They are feared because of their unforgiven and wicked practices.There is difference between fear and respect.

Sermwell:

Stop capping! I'm from Edo State, and I'll advice you never to underestimate the power of government!

If the Oba of Benin "pass his boundary", Hausa soldiers who don't care about the Benin tradition will be sent to level the Palace.

Even the Oba knows and will never be in the black book of the government.

I repeat, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT!

That is why an Oba trained from birth knows his job and responsibilities. Because he understudied his father for decades.
But when a governor suddenly make you Oba overnight, you might not be too prepared for the role.

Politicians can dethrone, but who will replace the Oba? Only Oba's first son can. A politician/governor can try flex muscle but must wait for the consequence from the people.

Even when the British did in 1897, they could not replace him. His first son only took over in 1914 after his demise in Calabar exile.

If na some place, some envious prince would have connived with the British to take the throne.

lexy2014:


Is that not why it is called Bini tradition and not Bini modernity?

By the way, who came up with "modernity"?

Any tradition that is not sieve and updated will soon be extinct and thrown into the dustbin and people will looked at it
with disdain.Every traditional practice must be updated.

coputa:
Edo has been left behind in modernist times,no wonder they still adore fetish fractices when others are enjoying the allure of modernity.

Such as those dead bodies in Okija forest, Boko Haram in the North, bodies that littered some bush in Osun, daylight murdering of Dr Akunyili, Ipob/ESN activities, herdsmen killing all over the place, kidnappings, baby factories, skull mining industry in Ogun abi which modernity?

Don't let your tribalism blind you to begin throw stones in a glass house. Tell us where you come from and let's compare.
There is enough poo across 9ja, so no need to form.

Buddha3:


I'll never understand the idea behind Governors having an influence over who occupies a kingship stool in a kingdom that has existed long before even the Governor was born.

It can only be greed and material aggrandisement on the part of those weak kings.

How do you surrender the sanctity of your stool and people to the hands of politicians because you want to be seen in political circles? My King, being the Paramount ruler of all Kings in Yakurr LGA, can have the ears of the President anyday, so long as he requests.

Yet, one corrupt and toad-like looking Governor can wake up overnight and depose a whole Emir, then go ahead to disintegrate his kingdom into smaller units. It's very shameful!

How did traditional rulers surrender the sanctity of their stool and people to the hands of politicians?

coputa:
Any tradition that is not sieve and updated will soon be extinct and thrown into the dustbin and people will looked at it
with disdain.Every traditional practice must be updated.

That's not what I asked you.

Is that not why it is called Bini tradition and not Bini modernity?

By the way, who came up with "modernity"?

coputa:
Any tradition that is not sieve and updated will soon be extinct and thrown into the dustbin and people will looked at it
with disdain.Every traditional practice must be updated.

Well, Benin has survived over 2000 years a growing strong. With proof across museums worldwide.

Has your place turned into Dubai or Singapore yet? Is minimum wage in your place now $700 dollars a month? This fuel subsidy has now impact in your Dubai-like hometown? How about removing the log in own eye first?
You are free to update to Hindu culture in your tribe if you like. Leave others with their own.

Sermwell:

Those are mere political positions! The Oba of Benin is more revered than these traditional rulers!

Do you even know the meaning of 'more revered'
Where all obas and emirs are seated, oba of Benin is always behind ooni of ife,
How is oba of Benin now more revered?
Traditionally, oba of Benin is from Yoruba land, that is why he is using the title oba which is known for Yorubas and that is why some Bini people bear Yoruba names and some Benin words are similar to Yoruba words .
You people like to twist history because of pride and lack of submission to your root,
Yorubas and obas title extend to Cotonou in Benin republic and Brazil.
Political leaders that place ooni above olu of Bini which you people changed to oba of Benin know this truth and apply it accordingly

Westman001:
Reading the Oba transcript is disgusting

According to tradition and culture of the Yoruba people it is very wrong for a king to be appointed. It is a monarchy system of ruling. The PM does not appoint the King or Queen of England.

This part of the world just take civilization wrongly and blindly. If proper redress is not taken, Yoruba would lost it customs.

The Oluwo just go and display his already known arrogance and ignoramuses.

Which arrogance and ignorance is he displaying?

Are you an oba?

phayvoursky:
Imagine governors picking kings😀

Edo tradition laughing at these guys😃😃😃

TriCee:

I'm trying hard to understand the point in this your comment. Do you mind clarifying your point? Oh, and try being a bit more civil this time. We no dey fight.

Someone said dethroning Emirs has been happening in Kano before now, and I took that correction immediately. You can tow same path and educate me.

My Boss I don't have point
I deyyyyyyyy hungry

My babe sef break my heart

Simple Truth

No wonder he has been misbehaving because he was selected by politicians. Ifa would have rejected this guy within seconds.

TheFreshVanilla:
I'm disappointed. All of the Christian/Islam beliefs are scam. Only created to control gullible masses.

Great point!

luxastoria:
Oba of Benin is a fat monkey.
Oba Monkey Gható Kpęre!

Interesting.