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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:26pm On Jul 17, 2023
computer0810:


Where in d constitution in that.....u don't think if such exist there won't be room for argument....think empty head

There's only 'room for argument' because you Tinubu minions are trying to obfuscate issues!
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by aswani(m): 1:33pm On Jul 17, 2023
Juicypamela:
So many Ignoramus clearly defending illegality

FCT is a MUST

It's just like Compulsory Credit in Mathematics or English Language in Waec, for you to pass


Tinubu is sitting on Illegality an the EU and the world at large is watching the Nigeria Judiciary

Nothing like Technicalities will Mar this process

Okwute will Reclaim his Mandate Insha Allah

You are clutching at straws and nothing good will come out of it.

FCT is not a MUST.

Peter Obi brought no proof to the Tribunal as to either why President Tinubu should be disqualified or why he himself should be made President.

Judges can't manufacture something out of nothing.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by sukar886: 1:43pm On Jul 17, 2023
opera1:
You people should rest, Abuja alone cannot be a determined factor for presidential election victory.
Keep on dreaming , time will tell, u better go and change the Constitution now
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by optimusprime2(m): 1:50pm On Jul 17, 2023
opera1:
You people should rest, Abuja alone cannot be a determined factor for presidential election victory.
Argue that with the constitution...
When people who knew kept saying it, they were being undermined... it's becoming clearer now abi?
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by ednut1(m): 2:10pm On Jul 17, 2023
Obidients and false hope. 2/3 of states nko. Last last there will be a rerun
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Throwback: 2:27pm On Jul 17, 2023
LOVEALAIGBO:


You, Olanipekun, Tinubu and the rest of the mob are twisting and giving your own deceptive meaning to what the constitution clearly states in black and white!

Two things:

*The constitution states that 'a candidate must score 25% in 2/3 of the states of Nigeria AND the FCT'!.....Couldn't have been stated any more clearly in plain english! If for the purposes of this particular rule, the framers of the constitution had intended Abuja to be treated same as the 36 states of Nigeria they could have stated '25% in 2/3 of the component units of Nigeria' as you're now editorialising to suit your own narrative! Or they could have stated '25% in 2/3 of the states of the federation INCLUDING Abuja', and this would have definitively shown that, for the purposes of this rule, Abuja was to be taken as a 37th state to be INCLUDED in the rule!

*More importantly, the President is de-jure and de-facto Governor of the FCT....in law and in fact, so it stands to reason that a Governor gets at least 25% in the state he wants to govern! It wouldn't be fair on the inhabitants of Abuja if this wasn't the case!

Yes!

2/3 of all the states and FCT is describing the whole of Nigeria that is the sample population where 25% is required.

All the States and FCT is the totality of Nigeria.

Nigeria is made of all (36) states and FCT.

There is no comma before the AND (and), as such the rules apply at once to what has been described.

If there was a comma before the AND (, and), the rules will apply individually firstly to all the states, and individually secondly to the FCT.

The comma being absent means the (all states and FCT is together as one description of Nigeria).

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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Nobody: 9:37pm On Jul 17, 2023
Hateandthunder:
Because he was the only candidate that got up to 25% in FCT
You guys just keep misinforming people everywhere! Have you no shame!

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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Cromagnon: 4:39am On Jul 18, 2023
Cloudflare:


That's the constitutional Law dude. A candidate MUST secure 25% in the federal Territory. Dude it's a must!
so why bother to run election in the other 36 states?
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Cloudflare: 6:46am On Jul 18, 2023
Cromagnon:
so why bother to run election in the other 36 states?

Go and Ask the judges in the PEPT that question
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by AuschwitzPrefec: 6:50am On Jul 18, 2023
Cloudflare:


That's the constitutional Law dude. A candidate MUST secure 25% in the federal Territory. Dude it's a must!
Iliterate

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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by 9jii(m): 6:56am On Jul 18, 2023
Hateandthunder:
Because he was the only candidate that got up to 25% in FCT
This is the problem with small brain in vast fast world

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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Tsolutionifede(m): 7:07am On Jul 18, 2023
udeh3:


The president by default is the governor of Abuja so to speak. You can't be the head of a place if 25% of the people there didn't vote for you. It's like staying in a home you're not wanted. In the Nigerian Constitution, Abuja is unified state and the Federal Character is employed in most appointments and things done there. It's a state that binds all Nigerians together, hence the 25%. Note that the Constitution didn't state, anyone with the highest vote or 50%, it also stated 25% which is reasonable.

I really don't envy the judges in the tribunal
God bless NIGERIA
u talking trash, u will soon condemn the tribunal,and put ur hope in appeal again, cursed people, from cursed region

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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Hateandthunder: 7:17am On Jul 18, 2023
9jii:

This is the problem with small brain in vast fast world
I agree. Your fathers small brain can't keep up
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Hateandthunder: 7:18am On Jul 18, 2023
pineed:

You guys just keep misinforming people everywhere! Have you no shame!
please tell me the other candidates who scored 25% in FCT please.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by SWATMan: 7:46am On Jul 18, 2023
Throwback:
Stop increasing the potential of your misery.

Tinubu is the President and does not require a single vote in FCT to be validly declared the winner of the election he won.

25% of 2/3 of all states and FCT is the totality of Nigeria, as Nigeria is made up of States and FCT.

Did Tinubu score 25% in 2/3 of that totality of 37 units?

Yes!

Move on with your loss.


You are constitutionally daft.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by leokid866: 9:06am On Jul 18, 2023
Cloudflare:


That's the constitutional Law dude. A candidate MUST secure 25% in the federal Territory. Dude it's a must!
lol did Obj get 25% in Abj in 2000? Did he not do his 4 years complete? Don't worry your body go soon calm down.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by aswani(m): 12:38pm On Jul 18, 2023
leokid866:
lol did Obj get 25% in Abj in 2000? Did he not do his 4 years complete? Don't worry your body go soon calm down.

Therein lies the problem, Obidients are so stiff necked, they are unable to calm down.

Bàbà God no go forgive di person wey do dem dat tín lai lai.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by chidiokay: 1:24pm On Jul 18, 2023
udeh3:


Abuja in the Constitution isn't a state. FCT was defined in the Constitution. Please, get your facts right.

Nigeria comprises of two components in the Constitution;
1. The states
2. The FCT. One must get 2/3 of the two components

The Constitution defines the meaning of the states which are 36 while it went forward to define what FCT means. FCT is regarded as an Area Council headed by the President as the governor. So, if you must be the president of the council, 2/3 is the requirement

So, the Constitution isn't wrong to always note state and FCT. They're different entities So, get 2/3 in 24 states and 2/3 of the Area Council which is FCT Or[b] do you win a state as a governor without winning 25% of the state[/b], if we so consider FCT as a compulsory state? This is the council that houses all the Federal bodies

From the beginning in Section 2 (2) the Constitution distinguishes the states and FCT providing that “Nigeria shall be a Federation consisting of States and a Federal Capital Territory”

Then, in section 134,
(b) he has not less than one-quarter of the votes cast at the election in each of at least two-thirds of all the States in the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja.




Can you mention one governor presiding that won his state by " 25% "
Going by your assumptions, if the constitution portrays the president as the governor of FCT, does 25% suffice as majority,

if 75% of FCT voted against Tinubu how does getting 25% make him change anything, from all point of logical reasoning. if we must treat FCT seperately i put it to you getting 25% is not enough to be a leader anywhere, 75% is a lot to ignore someone must have misinterpreted the law cheesy

democracy is all about majority and that is why we must treat FCT as 37th state to give aggregate that will resonate majority

Lastly, if you maintain the president is the governor of FCT then what does "FCT minister" stand for.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by backtovillage: 2:07pm On Jul 18, 2023
I see another loss for this shildren
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by udeh3(m): 2:25pm On Jul 18, 2023
chidiokay:





Can you mention one governor presiding that won his state by " 25% "
Going by your assumptions, if the constitution portrays the president as the governor of FCT, does 25% suffice as majority,

if 75% of FCT voted against Tinubu how does getting 25% make him change anything, from all point of logical reasoning. if we must treat FCT seperately i put it to you getting 25% is not enough to be a leader anywhere, 75% is a lot to ignore someone must have misinterpreted the law cheesy

democracy is all about majority and that is why we must treat FCT as 37th state to give aggregate that will resonate majority

Lastly, if you maintain the president is the governor of FCT then what does "FCT minister" stand for.


You clearly don't know the Constitution. Even if the presidential candidate has no opponent, he has a certain percentage of vote he must get before pronouncing him the winner. Winning isn't about who has more votes or who won more states, it's about who won according to the Constitution

How can one govern and leave in a place less than 25% voted for you? That is calamity. It shows you're not welcomed even before taking responsibility. This is why it's called an Area Council
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by udeh3(m): 2:28pm On Jul 18, 2023
Tsolutionifede:
u talking trash, u will soon condemn the tribunal,and put ur hope in appeal again, cursed people, from cursed region

You should be examined... I put up and argument using the Constitution as my reference, all you could do is reign curses and attack a certain region

This is the height of ignorance and illiteracy

Funny enough, I'm not from the region you're thinking... I am a true Nigerian who sees everyone equal regardless of where you're from, your background and status in the society

I am in the side of truth and the law.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by chidiokay: 4:44pm On Jul 18, 2023
udeh3:


You clearly don't know the Constitution. Even if the presidential candidate has no opponent, he has a certain percentage of vote he must get before pronouncing him the winner. Winning isn't about who has more votes or who won more states, it's about who won according to the Constitution

How can one govern and leave in a place less than 25% voted for you? That is calamity. It shows you're not welcomed even before taking responsibility. This is why it's called an Area Council


Listen to yourself does your statement sound convincing even to you,
In a democratic settings, the only requirement to emerge winner over a state is to have Majority vote in whatever % as long as it resonate majority.

Having 25% in FCT does not resonate ACCEPTANCE from lens of democracy lets not even argue that nonsense

Democracy entails Equality and Majority,

1.superiority of FCT over other states rules out Democracy
2. Eligiblity of 25% to control FCT defiles Majority rule which is sancrosanct as well.

However, one thing is clear here, you are the one misinterpreting the electoral act, for instance ikeja is the capital of lagos imagine not declaring sanwo olu winner becos he lose ikeja LcA sho make sense wink

I asked a question, IF you say the president doubles as governor of FCT then what does Minister of FCT stand for ??
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by udeh3(m): 4:46pm On Jul 18, 2023
chidiokay:



Listen to yourself does your statement sound convincing even to you,
In a democratic settings, the only requirement to emerge winner over a state is to have Majority vote in whatever % as long as it resonate majority.

Having 25% in FCT does not resonate ACCEPTANCE from lens of democracy lets not even argue that nonsense

Democracy entails Equality and Majority,

1.superiority of FCT over other states rules out Democracy
2. Eligiblity of 25% to control FCT defiles Majority rule which is sancrosanct as well.

However, one thing is clear here, you are the one misinterpreting the electoral act, for instance ikeja is the capital of lagos imagine not declaring sanwo olu winner becos he lose ikeja LcA sho make sense wink

I asked a question, IF you say the president doubles as governor of FCT then what does Minister of FCT stand for ??

For an election that has more than two contestants, it's correct, 25%

Take the study of your Constitution seriously
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by chidiokay: 4:54pm On Jul 18, 2023
udeh3:


For an election that has more than two contestants, it's correct, 25%

Take the study of your Constitution seriously



wow ! can you take me through the calculation using the FCT election result ?

Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Cromagnon: 9:05pm On Jul 18, 2023
Cloudflare:


Go and Ask the judges in the PEPT that question
we will soon hear verdict
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by jumobi1(m): 9:11pm On Jul 18, 2023
opera1:
You people should rest, Abuja alone cannot be a determined factor for presidential election victory.

Abuja alone is not a deciding factor. You don’t even need to win Abuja.
25% in 24 states,
25% in Abuja (maybe), and
Most votes overall are all factors.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by jumobi1(m): 9:15pm On Jul 18, 2023
chidiokay:



Listen to yourself does your statement sound convincing even to you,
In a democratic settings, the only requirement to emerge winner over a state is to have Majority vote in whatever % as long as it resonate majority.

Having 25% in FCT does not resonate ACCEPTANCE from lens of democracy lets not even argue that nonsense

Democracy entails Equality and Majority,

1.superiority of FCT over other states rules out Democracy
2. Eligiblity of 25% to control FCT defiles Majority rule which is sancrosanct as well.

However, one thing is clear here, you are the one misinterpreting the electoral act, for instance ikeja is the capital of lagos imagine not declaring sanwo olu winner becos he lose ikeja LcA sho make sense wink

I asked a question, IF you say the president doubles as governor of FCT then what does Minister of FCT stand for ??

Good point regarding 25% and democracy. Regarding the Minister, who elected the Minister? Definitely not the people since the appointer didn’t even score 25% of the votes in the FCT.
The truth is that our constitution was poorly drafted.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by YouAreFinished: 9:24pm On Jul 18, 2023
udeh3:


The president by default is the governor of Abuja so to speak. You can't be the head of a place if 25% of the people there didn't vote for you. It's like staying in a home you're not wanted. In the Nigerian Constitution, Abuja is unified state and the Federal Character is employed in most appointments and things done there. It's a state that binds all Nigerians together, hence the 25%. Note that the Constitution didn't state, anyone with the highest vote or 50%, it also stated 25% which is reasonable.

I really don't envy the judges in the tribunal
God bless NIGERIA
So if I get 90% of total votes,but I didn't get 25% in Abuja,then I can't be President?
How does that make sense.

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Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by naijapips04: 9:37pm On Jul 18, 2023
Cloudflare:


That's the constitutional Law dude. A candidate MUST secure 25% in the federal Territory. Dude it's a must!

Stop reasoning like a he goat. If that is the case , Politicians should just focus on winning Abuja alone and declare themselves winners.

Obiingos are just so dumb.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by chidiokay: 9:59pm On Jul 18, 2023
jumobi1:


Good point regarding 25% and democracy. Regarding the Minister, who elected the Minister? Definitely not the people since the appointer didn’t even score 25% of the votes in the FCT.
The truth is that our constitution was poorly drafted.



FCT as capital represent mini Nigeria, its only logical the Man than has the majority vote and 2/3 of all states appoint the minister that preside over FCT ... makes logical sense

The electoral act have being is existence for 24yrs and suddenly some people just realized the constitution was poorly drafted because there acclaimed messiah did not win wink
FCT is not a state, buh on the bases of equity & fairness to all the daftman decided to upscale FCT as one of the states, so as not to disenfranchise the people in abuja, however they have no locus standi to claim superior

switch tables if OBi had won majority vote plus 2/3 of 36states ... will you still think the electoral act was poorly drafted becos of 25% FCT cheesy lets not fool ourselves jare
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by jumobi1(m): 4:24am On Jul 19, 2023
chidiokay:




FCT as capital represent mini Nigeria, its only logical the Man than has the majority vote and 2/3 of all states appoint the minister that preside over FCT ... makes logical sense

The electoral act have being is existence for 24yrs and suddenly some people just realized the constitution was poorly drafted because there acclaimed messiah did not win wink
FCT is not a state, buh on the bases of equity & fairness to all the daftman decided to upscale FCT as one of the states, so as not to disenfranchise the people in abuja, however they have no locus standi to claim superior

switch tables if OBi had won majority vote plus 2/3 of 36states ... will you still think the electoral act was poorly drafted becos of 25% FCT cheesy lets not fool ourselves jare

Don’t take things personal. Agbakoba, SAN raised this issue before the election. Other senior advocates are debating the issue. Yes I think it could have been drafted better.
Re: Here Is Why Peter Obi Is Next In Line If Tinubu Is Disqualified by Rolings: 4:44am On Jul 19, 2023
Cloudflare:


That's the constitutional Law dude. A candidate MUST secure 25% in the federal Territory. Dude it's a must!

This is not the Law......that section has never been interpreted so you can't say it is the law yet
Wait for the courts to interprete it.

As you know law reach....you still dey argue the Abuja matter?.....it's either ignorance or mischief.....why should Abuja be special? Candidates will just go to sleep once they win Abuja alone....the judges won't allow that.
Abuja special status in the constitution is for administration not for the purpose of election and it is so described in laws that sets up many commissions so that it will not be left out when referring to states.

Time and the courts will tell

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