Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.

Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

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post=124569499]Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.

Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

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Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

We can’t really know who is right or wrong until we put both sides through litmus test.

You could stop giving your father the money to appease his belief for a specific duration (month or year). Continue giving your mum the money to appease her belief.

Then switch the style and stop giving your mum to appease her belief while you give your dad to appease his belief.

Observe the growth of your business during these two durations.

Oga believe your father, he is one doing the work.
But u still need to have a face to face discusion with ur father because there are things he is doing on ur behalf u don't know and those things are necessary for u to know, because everything has their consequences
Also send ur mother money whenever she need money to show seed. do u know why this politicians are

Amotolongbo:
We can’t really know who is right or wrong until we put both sides through litmus test.

You could stop giving your father the money to appease his belief for a specific duration (month or year). Continue giving your mum the money to appease her belief.

Then switch the style and stop giving your mum to appease her belief while you give your dad to appease his belief.

Observe the growth of your business during these two durations.

What if the same result is achievable?

Sermwell:


What if the same result is achievable?

Then both are wrong.

I can promise you that you will get the same result

Sermwell:

I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

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Both of them are partly responsible for your success but mostly the responsibility has been yours.

First your Christian mother and Traditionalist father created a nurturing environment for you to learn to coexist in diversity, thereby giving you essential skills in your endeavours. They also taught you the various underlying ideologies and philosophies which you've been able to contrast and compare and learn from and utilise. But mostly, your own hard work and learning are what have contributed the most to your success, though you wouldn't have learnt what you've learnt if not for your wise parents.

budaatum:


Both of them are partly responsible for your success but mostly the responsibility has been yours.

First your Christian mother and Traditionalist father created a nurturing environment for you to learn to coexist in diversity, thereby giving you essential skills in your endeavours. They also taught you the various underlying ideologies and philosophies which you've been able to contrast and compare and learn from and utilise. But mostly, your own hard work and learning are what have contributed the most to your success, though you wouldn't have learnt what you've learnt if not for your wise parents.

I strongly agree with you!

“Honor your father and your mother” is the first command with a promise: “That it may go well with you and you may remain a long time on the earth.” Ephesians 6:2-3

God makes his sun shines and rain fall both on the good and evil {Matthew 5:45} so leave the prayers out the young man is doing the things of God though he's not a believer! Romans 1:20

And why would you want to know who is in the radio that is making it sing, in the first place..?

Something is working for you like you claimed, now you want to form James Bond and investigate...Abi..?

You better let sleeping dogs lie... continue selling and making money and better stop bothering yourself on what is making it work or who...

Sermwell:
Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.

Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

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Lack of knowledge creates beliefs.

Maynman:

Lack of knowledge creates beliefs.

How do you mean?

Sermwell:
Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.

Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

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Neither are right. Rather they should be proud of you for making your ventures a success and thankful to you for supporting their religious habits.

Sermwell:
■ Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.
Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them. Who do you think is right in this case?

Your mother is wrong, and this much we know because Scripture is clear that that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by the their every sin and hence are an abomination to God who cannot abide unholiness. To top it off, she attempting to share part of the glory that is God by suggesting her efforts made it all possible is yet more sin for her to deal with --- God does not share glory with any man or woman.

Kobojunkie:
Your mother is wrong, and this much we know because Scripture is clear that that God does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc., of the unrighteous are tainted by the their every sin and hence are an abomination to God who cannot abide unholiness. To top it off, she attempting to share part of the glory that is God by suggesting her efforts made it all possible is yet more sin for her to deal with --- God does not share glory with any man or woman.

I do not think this is quite true, because I have seen the "offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc." of the unrighteous politicians answered so they win, and their intention while offering it was to unrighteously loot.

I have also seen the "offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc. of the righteous go unanswered too, mind, though one might argue what "righteous" is.

budaatum:
■ I do not think this is quite true, because I have seen the "offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc." of the unrighteous politicians answered so they win, and their intention while offering it was to unrighteously loot.
■ I have also seen the "offerings, prayers, praises, vows, tithes, seeds, fasting rituals, etc. of the righteous go unanswered too, mind,, though one might argue what "righteous" is.

So I take it that you believe God is a liar?

2. Newsflash - No man approved righteous by God Himself would be caught dead engaging in any of your many fasting rituals, tithing, seed sowing, praise and worship sessions, public prayers, etc.. These practices are all antichrist I.e. against righteousness. Do not mistake religious fervor for Godliness of the God kind.

This is gonna be a long read 🍿

Kobojunkie:
So you believe God is a liar?

2. Newsflash - No man approved righteous by God Himself would be caught dead engaging in any of your many fasting rituals, tithing, seed sowing, praise and worship sessions, public prayers, etc.. These practices are all antichrist I.e. against righteousness. Do not mistake religious fervor for Godliness of the God kind.

I guess that's the rub, "approved righteous by God Himself". How do you know if any God approved anyone? Does the approved get a certificate to prove they are "righteous by God Himself"?

"Religious fervour", you say. I have seen a tree worshipper's prayer answered, and even the wishes and hopes and practices of your so called "antichrist" fulfilled too, and as said, the unrighteous looting politician.

No, I don't think Gods lie, kobojunkie. Just that humans tell tall tales and claim they are from their Gods, because there is nothing antichrist about Sermwell's mother, unless you are claiming to know something about her the rest of us don't know.

budaatum:
■ I guess that's the rub, "approved righteous by God Himself". How do you know if any God approved anyone? Does the approved get a certificate to prove they are "righteous by God Himself"?
■ "Religious fervour", you say. I have seen a tree worshipper's prayer answered, and even the wishes and hopes and practices of your so called "antichrist" fulfilled too, and as said, the unrighteous looting politician.
■ No, I don't think Gods lie, kobojunkie. Just that humans tell tall tales and claim they are from their Gods, because there is nothing antichrist about Sermwell's mother, unless you are claiming to know something about her the rest of us don't know.

1. Well, according to Scripture, all the men who were approved by God were made aware of it by Him. So whether you believe it is not, that is the way it is written to have worked.

2. Sure you have and as you said these examples are not of worshippers of the God of Scripture who made clear that He does not answer the prayers or the unrighteous. So....

3. Your views aside, the fact is people like OP'S mother claim to absolutely believe all that is written in the Book. So, again, no need to make this of personal opinion. According to Scripture, all religious practices are antichrist and hence against righteousness.

Sermwell:
Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.

Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

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do you think the devil will give you something without collecting something more valuable in return? God has blessed for your hard work and you must give thanks to him, the the earlier you appreciate the work of God in your life, the better for you

IyanuDeb:
■ do you think the devil will give you something without collecting something more valuable in return?
■ God has blessed for your hard work and you must give thanks to him, the the earlier you appreciate the work of God in your life, the better for you

Where is it written that the one you call the devil gives anything though?

2. God blessings are listed for only for those who obey His teachings and commandments. This is what is written in scripture. OP does not seem to engage God at all and his idea of God seems born of religious leanings. So how could it be said that God blessed him?

Kobojunkie:
1. Well, according to Scripture, all the men who were approved by God were made aware of it by Him. So whether you believe it is not, that is the way it is written to have worked.

Since for me, "according to what I've seen with my own eyes", our opinions are bound to differ I suppose.

Kobojunkie:
2. Sure you have and as you said these examples are not of worshippers of the God of Scripture who made clear that He does not answer the prayers or the unrighteous. So....

Sermwell's mother reads scripture, and if she has been praying to the God of Scripture for Sermwell's success and them Sermwell succeeds, it would be hard to.prove her God of Scripture did not answer her prayers, I would think.

Kobojunkie:
3. Your views aside, the fact is people like OP'S mother claim to absolutely believe all that is written in the Book. So, again, no need to make this of personal opinion. According to Scripture, all religious practices are antichrist and hence against righteousness.

Be gracious, Kobojunkie, and set aside your own personal opinion which you claim is fact.

Sermwell's mother has not claimed to "absolutely believe all that is written in the Book", and nor has Sermwell made any such claim on her behalf.

No sensible person would claim to live "according to scripture". For even the best of us are at times quick to state our judgemental opinions based on little to no facts when scripture states, "judge not".

budaatum:
■ Since for me, "according to what I've seen with my own eyes", our opinions are bound to differ I suppose.
Sermwell's mother reads scripture, and if she has been praying to the God of Scripture for Sermwell's success and them Sermwell succeeds, it would be hard to.prove her God of Scripture did not answer her prayers, I would think.
Be gracious, Kobojunkie, and set aside your own personal opinion which you claim is fact.
Sermwell's mother has not claimed to "absolutely believe all that is written in the Book", and nor has Sermwell made any such claim on her behalf.
■ No sensible person would claim to live "according to scripture". For even the best of us are at times quick to state our judgemental opinions based on little to no facts when scripture states, "judge not".

1. Learn to keep your opinions out of these discussions please. Everything I have stated is as written in scripture. Op's mother is one of those who claim to believe scripture is holy meaning she assumes scripture ought to be seen as god over her every action, so your private opinions and claimed experiences should not matter at all here.

■ As for what God's Law, Jesus Christ, says in regards to Judging, Jesus Christ did say, "Judge not, lest though be judged" He also insisted that His followers Judge not according to outward appearances, but rather Judge everything according to God's standard of right. You cannot logically insist on the just the one rule while pretending you have spoken all of God's Truth now can you? Anyways, God's Law is God's standard of righteousness and all who follow Him will be judged by the Law.... the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ .

Kobojunkie:
1. Learn to keep your opinions out of these discussions please. Everything I have stated is as written in scripture. Op's mother is one of those who claim to believe scripture is holy meaning she assumes scripture ought to be seen as god over her every action, so your private opinions and claimed experiences should not matter at all here.

■ As for what God's Law, Jesus Christ, says in regards to Judging, Jesus Christ did say, "Judge not, lest though be judged" He also insisted that His followers Judge not according to outward appearances, but rather Judge everything according to God's standard of right. You cannot logically insist on the just the one rule while pretending you have spoken all of God's Truth now can you? Anyways, God's Law is God's standard of righteousness and all who follow Him will be judged by the Law.... the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ .

Every time you say this the only thing that rings in my mind is how do you know what the god or Jesus said when the only words are those written by men. Neither Jesus nor the god wrote anything.

LordReed:


Every time you say this the o ly thing that rings in my mind is how do you know what the god or Jesus said when the only words are those written by men. Neither Jesus nor the god wrote anything.

“Written by men” 😂😂
And kobo no like or trust men of this world atall.

LordReed:
■ Every time you say this the o ly thing that rings in my mind is how do you know what the god or Jesus said when the only words are those written by men. Neither Jesus nor the god wrote anything.

You worry yourself about what you ought not to.

Kobojunkie:
You worry yourself about what you ought not to.

Abi na, the “scriptures” from the middle east is the word of god

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that the one you call the devil gives anything though?

2. God blessings are listed for only for those who obey His teachings and commandments. This is what is written in scripture. OP does not seem to engage God at all and his idea of God seems born of religious leanings. So how could it be said that God blessed him?

it says Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above,
coming down from the Father of lights with whom there
is no variation or shadow due to change in James, so I believe everything good comes from God and hardwork, as for the devil blessing someone, I've argued it on countless times that it's not possible for even the prophets of Baal couldn't invoke their all so mighty God but I'm mostly criticized in church whenever I say that

Kobojunkie:
You worry yourself about what you ought not to.

Worry is the wrong word. I am curious how you resolve these issue, it doesn't make a difference to me though since like I already stated, the god nor Jesus wrote not a single word.

Maynman:

“Written by men” 😂😂
And kobo no like or trust men of this world atall.

LoLz. Exactly. He doesn't trust men but somehow knows what these same men wrote is from the god and Jesus. The contradiction tickles my funny bone every time.

Sermwell:
Immediately after school, a cousin gifted me some money which I invested in distribution of PMS(fuel). Before I began the business, I told my parents about it and asked for thier prayers. My dad is a heavy traditionalist, who visits some traditional medicine men, while my mum is a very strong christain.

Fast forward to 7 years later, I became very successful in the the business and also invested in other businesses. I made my big break during Buhari's tenure, and I can say I'm very comfortable financially. Apart from sending money to my parents every month for thier upkeep, I also send money to my mum for seed sowing, tithes and some other church donations, while I also send money to my dad for his routine "appeasing the gods" and some other financial obligations to his medicine men.
Last week, I decided to visit home and when it was night time for gist and all, my dad started thanking the gods for thier hands in my success and bragged that his medicine men are very powerful and have the ears of the gods , and that as long as him and his medicine men are alive, I will continue to prosper in my business and legal practice. My mum on the other hand, insisted it was the Almighty God she serves that has been blessing me courtesy of her prayers, fasting and seed sowing.
I'm not a very religious person, but my both parents sounded convincing that thier prayers and spiritual activities is largely responsible for my success. On my flight back to my base, I was wondering who could be right among them.

Who do you think is right in this case?

Actually none of them is totally right or wrong. You have done well for yourself na.

LordReed:


like I already stated, the god nor Jesus wrote not a single word.

I’m glad they did not say it was jesus that wrote those books, if they had said it na another wahala be that 😂

If they knew mohammed that could not read and write could get away with writing the quran eloquently, those early christian fathers would have said jesus wrote NT too 😂😂