MindHacker9009:
■ The only commandments God wrote Himself were the ten Commandments, so laws were made by Moses based on the 10 commandments where applicable and others his own as needed to lead his people. Even your Jesus Christ said it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the laws.

1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

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Kobojunkiee:
1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

Your Jesus Christ said it that it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the laws, so I have already answered your question before.

MindHacker9009:
■ Your Jesus Christ said it that it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the laws, so I have already answered your question before.

You told these stories and I have many other questions so can please answer.

1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

Kobojunkiee:
You told these stories and I have many other questions so can please answer.

1. You keep using the word "derived" to describe over 603 laws which are for the most part disconnected from that contained in the 10 commandments. For example, how can Leviticus 19 vs 18 be said to have been derived from the 10 commandments?

Also, you are still refusing to answer the questions I continue to ask. According to you, God made Moses a leader and hence gave Moses right to make laws on his behalf---- using His name? So basically, meaning if you accept what you say here then you ought also to accept all 613 statutes and commandments given by Moses in the Law of Moses. However, you do not. Why? [B]Numbers 18[/b] which you quoted from was supposedly included by Moses as part of the 603 additions he made to the Law given Him by God but you reject it.

2. Also, if God explicitly gave Moses permission to make laws using His name, from where do your religious leaders, who manufactured their own holy book to add to the laws supposedly made by Moses, get their own permission to add their own doctrines and traditions- laws - to the Law of Moses then? Or is God going around giving all kinds of men the same permission he supposedly gave to Moses? Meaning the so-called Law of Moses is just a farce.

I never said God gave Moses the right to make laws with His Name. Men wrote the laws in the Bible and not God Himself.

MindHacker9009:
■ I never said God gave Moses the right to make laws with His Name. Men wrote the Bible and not God Himself.

So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

Kobojunkiee:
So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

Then you should list all the laws where God directly spoke the laws to Moses.

MindHacker9009:
■ You should list all the laws where God directly spoke the laws to Moses.

All 613 of them actually given that Moses never once stopped to insist anyone of them were from him rather than from God. Even before his end, he assured the people that they would surely end up cursed by God if they refused to obey the laws that He had given to them. So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

Kobojunkiee:
All 613 of them actually given that Moses never once stopped to insist anyone of them were from him rather than from God. Even before his end, he assured the people that they would surely end up cursed by God if they refused to obey the laws that He had given to them. So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

Moses was God's representative to lead the nation of Isreal, so Moses was able to make laws for his people as they seem fit and your Jesus clearly stated that one of these laws was due to the heardness of your heart as you have been showing us here.

So you are saying that the fact that Governors and local Governments can make laws on behalf of the central Government and state Government, that these laws are frauds because they are not directly from the Central Government?

MindHacker9009:
■ Moses was God's representative to lead the nation of Isreal, so Moses was able to make laws for his people as they seem fit and your Jesus clearly stated that one of these laws was due to the heardness of your heart as you have been showing us here.

So you are saying that the fact that Governors and local Governments can make laws on behalf of the central Government and state Government, that these laws are frauds because they are not directly from the Central Government?

Again, So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

2. Local governments do not make laws on behalf of Central governments or state governments.

Kobojunkiee:
Again, So, again, we are back to Moses being a fraud who according to you used God's name to sell each and everyone of the 603 additional commandments and statutes he came up with on his own to the people Israel as their national Constitution in the Land of Israel?

2. Local governments do not make laws on behalf of Central governments or state governments.

I have answered your question but you just like to argue because of the heardness of your heart, but you don't even know what you are arguing about.

"State laws refers to the law of a federated state, as distinguished from the law of the federation of which it is a part. "

"Byelaws are local laws made by a local council under an enabling power contained in a public general act or a local act requiring something to be done – or not done – in a specified area."

MindHacker9009:
■ I have answered your question but you just like to argue because of the heardness of your heart, but you don't even know what you are arguing about.
■ "State laws refers to the law of a federated state, as distinguished from the law of the federation of which it is a part. "

"Byelaws are local laws made by a local council under an enabling power contained in a public general act or a local act requiring something to be done – or not done – in a specified area."

1. You mean you meant these weaves around the question as actual answers to the questions asked?

2. This is what you asked....

MindHacker9009:
So you are saying that the fact that Governors and local Governments can make laws on behalf of the central Government and state Government, that these laws are frauds because they are not directly from the Central Government?

And my response was that local governments do not make laws on behalf of Central and State Government. Governors make laws that apply as far as their local jurisdiction.

YHWH was the one and only Law that the Israelites were given by God to worship--- trust and obey. You however claimed Moses added 603 laws of His own using the name of YHWH. You claimed this was because YHWH gave Moses permission to add, change and even remove from His Law.

Virgohills:
Thinking about it...if you ask a very religious Christian they will say no sex before marriage.

But in reality not every body on earth won't get married, someone men and women will die single. Does that mean if they have sex, God will hate them as his creation?

How do we defend this topic.

Which is more important, temporarily enjoyment of Fornication or eternal life in heaven?

According to Jesus, some choose to be eunuchs just to make heaven

... and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake...
— Matthew 19:12

If you fornicate and repent from it completely, God will forgive you. But you will bear the consequences.

Kobojunkiee:
1. You mean you meant these weaves around the question as actual answers to the questions asked?

2. This is what you asked.... And my response was that local governments do not make laws on behalf of Central and State Government. Governors make laws that apply as far as their local jurisdiction.

YHWH was the one and only Law that the Israelites were given by God to worship--- trust and obey. You however claimed Moses added 603 laws of His own using the name of YHWH. You claimed this was because YHWH gave Moses permission to add, change and even remove from His Law.

Federal Goverment gives state and local goverment constitutional powers to make laws for their own jurisdictions, same way Moses was Gods representative to lead the nation of Isreal, so Moses was able to make laws that seem fit for his people.

I did not make any claim like you stated.

SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IS TOUCHING THE FRUIT AT THE CENTRE OF THE GARDEN WITHOUT AUTHORITY.

MindHacker9009:
■ Federal Goverment gives state and local goverment constitutional powers to make laws for their own jurisdictions, same way Moses was Gods representative to lead the nation of Isreal, so Moses was able to make laws that seem fit for his people.

I did not make any claim like you stated.

Again, 1. You mean you meant these weaves around the question as actual answers to the questions asked?

2. This is what you asked.... And my response was that local governments do not make laws on behalf NOR IN THE NAME OF the Central and State Government. Governors make laws that apply as far as their local jurisdiction.

YHWH was the one and only Law that the Israelites were given by God to worship--- trust and obey. You however claimed Moses added 603 laws of His own using the name of YHWH. You claimed this was because YHWH gave Moses permission to add, change and even remove from His Law.

Kobojunkie:
Again, 1. You mean you meant these weaves around the question as actual answers to the questions asked?

2. This is what you asked.... And my response was that local governments do not make laws on behalf NOR IN THE NAME OF the Central and State Government. Governors make laws that apply as far as their local jurisdiction.

YHWH was the one and only Law that the Israelites were given by God to worship--- trust and obey. You however claimed Moses added 603 laws of His own using the name of YHWH. You claimed this was because YHWH gave Moses permission to add, change and even remove from His Law.

Federal Goverment gives state and local goverment constitutional powers to make laws for their own jurisdictions, same way Moses was Gods representative to lead the nation of Isreal, so Moses was able to make laws that seem fit for his people.

Even your Jesus Christ said it was the hardness of your heart that made Moses to give one of the laws.