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Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by okadaman2: 1:22am On Oct 24, 2011 |
Kobojunkie: See Horse! Very cute looking thing. I'll find it and ride it. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by jmaine: 1:31am On Oct 24, 2011 |
okada_man: Guy . . .where you go hide |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by okadaman2: 2:09am On Oct 24, 2011 |
jmaine: Bros long time! I go open Okada hire business for Borno, Internet nor dey dia How family dem? |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by jmaine: 2:16am On Oct 24, 2011 |
okada_man: Family tite gbam . . . . they are all very gallant . . . . |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Kay1kay1(m): 10:15am On Oct 24, 2011 |
bebe2 Pushed to the wall with your second citizenship could mean, for example, fighting a war (as a soldier) you don't believe in. Being used as a political pawn. In a case where you find your new citizenship taking you to awkward places, I believe we should not let our emotions drive us crazy. Go with the s_h[i]ea[/i]tty situation? Maybe not. Probably relocate again? Maybe yes. There are sure aspects of home we'd miss. Infrastructural underdevelopment and man-made stress no, no. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by buzugee(m): 11:08am On Oct 24, 2011 |
kobojunkie so you are one of those crazy people biking at 7am in the morning (especially on saturdays) that i see on the bike lanes , when driving on lakeshore drive going downtown. lol. i researched that phenomenon too cuz i was curious. i was thinking these are prolly just a bunch of treehuggers doing what treehuggers do, saving the planet by reducing their carbon print. so every motning i drive to the irving park beach parking area and observe. come to find out most of these fools drive over there in there huge SUVs. and then pull out the bike from their cars, then bike all over the city, then get back to their cars, throw the bike in the back and then drive home |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by bebe2(f): 11:13am On Oct 24, 2011 |
arsenefc:thanks dear, i dnt know wat all the wahala is about, i was only expressing my feeling on the day, doesnt mean am suicidal all hate everything on the planet. and wat did i get a single person saying, ride a bike, (where do i put my crew while am on the bike ) join a cooking class, shebi na d cooking tire me wey i dey complain. it all in good humour. arsenefc: son of god is the most hated NLer, have u seen his previous post? SHOCKING!! frosbel: I want to apologise for my part, i was very upset becos i didnt know why someone wud attack me in such a way. i didnt think there was anything in my post to provoke such hatred. well, am done. Kobojunkie: it depends on your personality, emotion etc. i will not apologise for being me. i grew up in a very large and happy environment, my sister was married in nearby city we wud just be sitting on a saturday evening and she and her hubby would walkin saying they are traveling to maybe lagos for a friend's wedding and would drop their kid's no questions asked. i miss all that. my best friend is getting married in warri and all my friends are there, they called me eeryone excited and talking at the same time. when they dropped the phone it all fell silent, and i felt bad so i thot i will just air my views. arsenefc:E GO BETTER FOR ALL OF US IJN. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by bebe2(f): 11:29am On Oct 24, 2011 |
JUST FOR THE RECORD. i dnt hate my life, i appreciate all wat God has done for me. i came home in 2009 and i saw alot of pple that i went to school wit, i cudnt believe their situation. even those that were classed as being RICH were not that alright. i thank God for his favour. To crown a not so good sunday my son's football team beat their rival for 4 - 1. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by buzugee(m): 11:31am On Oct 24, 2011 |
bebe2:yes but did you go see your friends who live in lekki or VGC or magodo or abuja |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by bebe2(f): 11:34am On Oct 24, 2011 |
buzugee:I dnt have friend's in those areas, how many pple live in those areas? am still grateful to GOD for wat he has done for me. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by buzugee(m): 11:37am On Oct 24, 2011 |
bebe2:lol i was just being funny. are you in england or america ? |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by bebe2(f): 11:44am On Oct 24, 2011 |
buzugee:na england GOD for pour his blessings upon me o. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by buzugee(m): 12:05pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
bebe2:england is where its at o jare. mama charlie subject |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Kobojunkie: 1:59pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
buzugee: So they are the fools in this case because they do not adhere to your cooked up idea of them being tree-huggers |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Nobody: 2:00pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
I would, IF and only IF, Nigeria was safe, and if good medical care was widely available. . A lot of people WANT to move back home, but to what? to Lagos gridlock? or no electricity? all the chaos? and when u complain people look at u like you are crazy. they are so used to that way of life, yet despite these things I thoroughly enjoy Nigeria, imagine how awesome it would be if things were better. somebody posted his car got stolen a few days ago and people mocked the age of the car, REALLY? really these are the kinds of thots that foster corruption. we are all guilty of it even if we don't realize it. we put undue demand on people instead of commending them for living within their means. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Nobody: 2:06pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
buzugee: you are wrong, the problem is, the rich people in nigeria have NOTHING to do with thier money. we don't create enough products, this why you see ngerians travel and spend INSANE amounts of things we can't even fathom, we can go to the mall every weekend and spend a little here and a little there. they have to save it (or buy in Nigeria at an even more insane price and less choice) and spend it all at once when travelling. that's where the disparity comes in. plus u also can't outshow. my dad refused to paint the peeling paint on the house so "thieves" wouldn't think there was money, don't let appearances fool you. unless the person is an aiyiriolari, chances are , they don't spend outlandishly. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by kabukabu50(m): 2:40pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
ATLgal: Could not have put it better myself, There is no class mobility in Nigeria,and no middle class you have a huge chasm between the very wealthy and hordes of working poor.My uncle still has his house unpainted and locks his cars in his garage at night,using public transport most of the time,just ridiculous. No way Im giving up citizenship in exchange for sleeping at night with one eye open |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Kobojunkie: 2:53pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
bebe2: I disagree because a couple of years ago, I used to offer up the same excuses you apply above to justify my 'choice' to continue to wallow in 'grief' - my leaving life in Nigeria for America. I think what concerns me more is how this may effect kids? I still have nightmares of a time in my childhood when I felt my mum had other priorities in her life . . . . Children, as we all should know since we were all kids not too long ago, are very sensitive, and know when the one they love does not seem CONTENT with having just them around. My best friends are mostly all married as well. I got invitations but they understood that I could not be there. I got videos of the event, and sent them my greetings -- Will visit them when next I am down there. They do not hate me because I did not show up on their wedding day. We will not ceize to be friends as a result -- usually good friendships transcend all that. I am not discouraging you from having and keeping close ties, and I am certainly not saying you should take up cooking or biking. That is what works for me -- I used to be active in Nigeria and so that is my personality and way of enjoying my environment and life. What I am probably suggesting is you talking to someone about how you can better manage those ties so they do not overtake you so much. There is a reason why in the Bible(I am guessing you claim Christianity) that the Bible talks of the woman leaving her father and mother(this includes all else) to go to her husband. Essentially, you are to manage those feelings in a way that it does not affect your new life. You are not alone in this, and so I hope you do not construe this as an attack or an attempt to make you feel small. I am only glad I was able to realize those feelings are NOT in anyway normal, and then worked to overcome them. Glad to help another who may want to overcome them with possible ideas that might help. Many of us, when we move to a new state/country/village/make big changes in our lives, question our decisions and long for the old. We forget the reasons why we left and start to create fantastical pictures of how great life used to be. We often allow this to take hold of our lives, and sometimes you meet people who have lived in America, or some other country for 20 or more years but their heart still not at home. I saw that in a 60 something old man I met down in Atlanta on a work trip some years ago and immediately reprocessed my life after that experience. The man was essentially what you would consider a bitter old man -- he left Nigeria more than 30 years before but Nigeria never really left him. His conversation were of things in Nigeria, life in Nigeria, attitudes in Nigeria. If you spent an hour of two with him, you would hear of everyone else's life in Nigeria but not even a minute of his. When I pushed him to talk of himself, he explained how all he did was wake up, go to work, call his friends in Nigeria to catch up -- on and on. That is not how it ought to be as that takes its toll on our minds, body and soul. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by otiigba1(m): 6:02pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
bebe2:wow!! you are still mentioning GOD,s name and you also claim to be a church goer,you hypocrite!! after all that insults between you and that poster( son of god) what do they teach you in that church? i am so dissapointed in the two of you, all that insults between the two of you really petrified me, and you also stupe as low as envolving your kids in the arguments and what about your husband how is all this fare on him? the poor man is proberbly working his arse of trying to make you happy, if this is how it is between nigerians in europe emagine what it will be like in naija if this is the case i am staying put in england, just my opinion please dont bite my head off |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by udezue(m): 6:32pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
@Ileke Idi, did you ever fall hard on your hairy ass while learning to ride the bike? I hope u did tho, you lil heifer! |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by buzugee(m): 7:42pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
Kobojunkie:nah i dint mean it like that. i use 'fools' as an endearing word sometimes. this look familiar to you ? thats from my stash of pics i took during my sojourn at irving park beach Uploaded with ImageShack.us thats the area where they play golf. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by buzugee(m): 7:47pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
ATLgal:i think you completely missed my point. she was stating how everyone she knew even the rich have fallen on hard times etc etc. so i says , did you go see your friends in those 'rich areas i mentioned', my point being, i am sure she only saw her friends who supposedly are now poor. personally i am not hung up on materialism. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by manny4life(m): 8:32pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
I will only if I have to change Nigeria and run for Government, yeah be a governor in my state. KOBO does not do 40miles, she's exaggerating again as usual, 40miles? I will go to DC from VA 3X, chei, Kobo stop lying now, How fast does you travel on this bike eh? |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by ektbear: 8:49pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
Nah over the course of a week she could easily do 40. That is only 8 per day (ignoring weekends.) 4 miles each way. If she lives in a fairly flat area with good bike lanes and such, then there is no reason not to do the 4 miles. At 15 MPH, that is just 16 minutes of biking each way. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by manny4life(m): 9:00pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
^^^^ oh ok i ot it was daily, i was like damn. well that sounds reasonable but she can't bike at 15mph. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by tarano: 9:17pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
kobojunkie I hope u not who I think u are I truly stay in Chicago also. just interesting I work downtown, and I see those guys on bics behind the city of chicago building, I use to think of the Unclad bickers world, i saw them last year and did not miss this year, not a perv just enjoying chicago, hey I don't mind meeting Chicagoans like myself, |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Nobody: 9:29pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
Mehn. I love chicago die. Well ur mag mile area sha. N ur cheap food. Even Naija fOod cheap. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Kobojunkie: 10:09pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
tarano: the Unclad bike riding thing is to me NOT COOL at all. We do the marathon right before them each year and I can't seem to get used to that. For those of you who think everyone lives by the limits you cling to, I suggest you start opening that box you call a mind. There are folks who clock 100 miles each week. People actually take these things seriously and are not limited as you may think. There was a time I myself never had to do even a single mile, but as soon as I started it became second nature. If you live in a city and have no car, doing 60 miles a week easy is not out of the question. By the time you go to work come back, go do laundry, run errands, and do this and that that many people who own cars do, people easily clock 100 miles each week. There are even those who deliver pizzas on their bikes and no joke, these dudes love their jobs. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by Kobojunkie: 10:13pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
buzugee: I don't know Irving Park beach. I mean if you are referring to the lake, then sure. |
Re: Give Up Your American Or European Citizenship? by ektbear: 10:19pm On Oct 24, 2011 |
Lol. Naked biking, for real? |
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