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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Rostikol: 5:20pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

There is no way you can supply electricity now in Nigeria profitably that's is why we don't have Comericial electricity constant

How is this difficult for you guys to even understand I don't get

There is a reason estates have 24 hours electricity but mainland dont have

Everything is about profit!!!

Have you not heard discos rejecting power?

Discos amd power generation companies are surviving because of subsidies from federal government if not they can never be profitable

Like bros how's this difficult to understand[/b]

Nigeria is not rich enough to provide free electricity to Nigerians Nigerians have to pay If they want it and we don't have enough Nigerians capable of paying

If you don't get this now I'm done

Damn… If this is true, then we probably need to consider nuclear power plants. Those can ramp up power generation in a big way without costing the masses.

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Yujin(m): 5:22pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

There is no way you can supply electricity now in Nigeria profitably that's is why we don't have Comericial electricity constant

How is this difficult for you guys to even understand I don't get

There is a reason estates have 24 hours electricity but mainland dont have

Everything is about profit!!!

Have you not heard discos rejecting power?

Discos amd power generation companies are surviving because of subsidies from federal government if not they can never be profitable

Like bros how's this difficult to understand[/b]

Nigeria is not rich enough to provide free electricity to Nigerians Nigerians have to pay If they want it and we don't have enough Nigerians capable of paying

If you don't get this now I'm done
We are saying similar things but not the same. Your position is that people must work hard to improve their financial status before expecting a steady power supply while my position is that the government whether state or central must ensure a steady power supply is available so those who can afford it will be able to utilized it to create more wealth for themselves. NO ONE IS ASKING FOR FREE ELECTRICITY.
The problem with your position is that it will never happen. Wealth creation and financial improvement in this generation is tied to a steady supply of power. Anything less will put a people on the disadvantaged side of this highly competitive world. Do you know how much farm produce perish weekly due to improper storage as a result of epileptic electricity supply? Do you know the amount of loss suffered all around because of it? If you don't know, it is one of the major reason behind the closure of many businesses.
Rent is cheaper here in Nigeria than other countries but absence of steady power is still killing businesses.
You'll never understand until you visit other countries where a steady power supply is available.

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by ElSudani: 5:26pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

Is there any law stopping any industry from having electricity? ... There is no one in Nigeria that wants electricity and can pay for it that can't take it?

SMEs are actually very important for poverty eradication in any economy not just the big companies.
When you understand that these SMEs are the most impacted by unreliable supply or no electricity then you will understand the importance of what we are talking about.
If you are a dairy farmer with lots of cows in some rural community in Nigeria without electricity would you still argue that the problem is money or lack of it?
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 5:37pm On Oct 26, 2023
ElSudani:


SMEs are actually very important for poverty eradication in any economy not just the big companies.
When you understand that these SMEs are the most impacted by unreliable supply or no electricity then you will understand the importance of what we are talking about.
If you are a dairy farmer with lots of cows in some rural community in Nigeria without electricity would you still argue that the problem is money or lack of it?
Name the SME that can't survive without government power... Give example

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 5:38pm On Oct 26, 2023
Yujin:

We are saying similar things but not the same. Your position is that people must work hard to improve their financial status before expecting a steady power supply while my position is that the government whether state or central must ensure a steady power supply is available so those who can afford it will be able to utilized it to create more wealth for themselves. NO ONE IS ASKING FOR FREE ELECTRICITY.
The problem with your position is that it will never happen. Wealth creation and financial improvement in this generation is tied to a steady supply of power. Anything less will put a people on the disadvantaged side of this highly competitive world. Do you know how much farm pdoduce perish weekly due to improper storage as a result of epileptic electricity supply? Do you know the amount of loss suffered all around because of it? If you don't know, it is one of the major reason behind the closure of many businesses.
Rent is cheaper here in Nigeria than other countries but absence of steady power is still killing businesses.
You'll never understand until you visit other countries where a steady power supply is available.
NIGERIANS HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRICITY

we just don't have access to centralized stables electricity and centralized constant electricity is not important for Industrialization

What we need us gas supply... We need access to gas

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by ElSudani: 5:39pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

Name the SME that can't survive without government power... Give example

Really? I just cited the example of dairy farmer. Is this not an SME in your estimation? Did you think it is economically feasible to generate his own electricity?
Perhaps welders and barbers, mechanics and shoe makers etc should generate their own uninterrupted electricity.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 5:40pm On Oct 26, 2023
Rostikol:


Damn… If this is true, then we probably need to consider nuclear power plants. Those can ramp up power generation in a big way without costing the masses.
Bros every company that closed ask them what closed them is never lack of power

I have a factory I have never been connected to power... Even with diesel at 1000 it's not the upto 5% the cost of production

Not yo talk of big companies that use CNG gas turbine that's 300per kg

Electricity is not our problem we have bigger problem
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by iwaeda: 5:42pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

Bros every company that closed ask them what closed them is never lack of power

I have a factory I have never been connected to power... Even with diesel at 1000 it's not the upto 5% the cost of production

Not yo talk of big companies that use CNG gas turbine that's 300per kg

Electricity is not our problem we have bigger problem

grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by ElSudani: 5:43pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

Bros every company that closed ask them what closed them is never lack of power

I have a factory I have never been connected to power... Even with diesel at 1000 it's not the upto 5% the cost of production

Not yo talk of big companies that use CNG gas turbine that's 300per kg

Electricity is not our problem we have bigger problem

And your factory's power requirement is exactly like every others out there?
If you are using tap water to make pure water satchets that is a factory too and your power requirements cannot be the same as a welder or other metal work concern.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 5:45pm On Oct 26, 2023
ElSudani:


And your factory's power requirement is exactly like every others out there?
It's a small scale factory.... The bigger the factory the bigger the generator the bigger the generator the lower the cost of production
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by ElSudani: 5:47pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

It's a small scale factory.... The bigger the factory the bigger the generator the bigger the generator the lower the cost of production

Generators if used at all in industrialized countries are for temporary back up, there's a reason for this.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 5:50pm On Oct 26, 2023
ElSudani:


Really? I just cited the example of dairy farmer. Is this not an SME in your estimation? Did you think it is economically feasible to generate his own electricity?
Perhaps welders and barbers, mechanics and shoe makers etc should generate their own uninterrupted electricity.
Absolutely what's there na

The only thing a dairy farmer needs electricity for24/7 is the
1) pasteurizing machine
2) refrigerated holding thanks....

Feed processing machine is max 4 hours a day
Water pumping machine 2 hours a day

A farm that needs all this would need to produce at least 5000 litres per day... And at that rate 15 million solar system can solve all his power problem for 7 years minimum

If its less than 5000 best is to convert his milk to yogurt at that rate 4 million can get you enough solar to power a 100l to 5000l per day yogurts factory

Hope I answered you
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 5:53pm On Oct 26, 2023
ElSudani:


Generators if used at all in industrialized countries are for temporary back up, there's a reason for this.
Most big companies In developed countries have generate their own electricity oga do your research... Most big companies
Do your research

Why because it's cheaper to produce your own power
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by ElSudani: 7:06pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

Most big companies In developed countries have generate their own electricity oga do your research... Most big companies
Do your research


Why because it's cheaper to produce your own power

You are talking nonsense now.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Yujin(m): 7:06pm On Oct 26, 2023
mrvitalis:

NIGERIANS HAVE ACCESS TO ELECTRICITY

we just don't have access to centralized stables electricity and centralized constant electricity is not important for Industrialization

What we need us gas supply... We need access to gas
I rest my case.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 7:08pm On Oct 26, 2023
ElSudani:


You are talking nonsense now.
Why not google sir
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Yujin(m): 7:08pm On Oct 26, 2023
ElSudani:


Generators if used at all in industrialized countries are for temporary back up, there's a reason for this.
Don't argue with him. He knows the truth but doesn't want to admit.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Akano5(m): 7:17pm On Oct 26, 2023
The truth is we need electricity -- not as a want but as a right as a Nigerian..
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by iwaeda: 8:05am On Oct 27, 2023
Akano5:
The truth is we need electricity -- not as a want but as a right as a Nigerian..

God bless you. Have people sat down to ask why people troop yo urban areas? When Okin biscuits, Noble Breweries, Okin foam, Demsco, Erinle paper converters, Afolayan garments, Buhari Oloto watch and so on. Many graduates return to work because of functional industries. grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by nairalanda1(m): 8:10am On Oct 27, 2023
mrvitalis:

There is no way you can supply electricity now in Nigeria profitably that's is why we don't have Comericial electricity constant

How is this difficult for you guys to even understand I don't get

There is a reason estates have 24 hours electricity but mainland dont have

Everything is about profit!!!

Have you not heard discos rejecting power?

Discos amd power generation companies are surviving because of subsidies from federal government if not they can never be profitable

Like bros how's this difficult to understand[/b]

Nigeria is not rich enough to provide free electricity to Nigerians Nigerians have to pay If they want it and we don't have enough Nigerians capable of paying

If you don't get this now I'm done

I've said what you are saying in different language, but Nigerians no wan hear.

Electricity is expensive. Very much so.
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 8:12am On Oct 27, 2023
nairalanda1:


I've said what you are saying in different language, but Nigerians no wan hear.

Electricity is expensive. Very much so.
Be like say we gets dey do podcast they educate Nigerians on this thing

See small education way obi do see the effect ..
Majority of Nigerians are ignorant
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by iwaeda: 8:32am On Oct 27, 2023
mrvitalis:

Be like say we gets dey do podcast they educate Nigerians on this thing

See small education way obi do see the effect ..
Majority of Nigerians are ignorant
Electricity is not EXPENSIVE, but lack of planning. Do you know poor spend more generating electricity by buying fuel? I once did a research of power generation in a zone. grin grin grin angry
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 8:35am On Oct 27, 2023
iwaeda:

Electricity is not EXPENSIVE, but lack of planning. Do you know poor spend more generating electricity by buying fuel? I once did a research of power generation in a zone. grin grin grin angry
That is a big lie

Very big lie there is no how you can have 24 hours electricity without every house paying $60 minimum a month

It's cheaper to on gen when you need it even for a small business
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by iwaeda: 8:46am On Oct 27, 2023
mrvitalis:

That is a big lie

Very big lie there is no how you can have 24 hours electricity without every house paying $60 minimum a month

It's cheaper to on gen when you need it even for a small business

Have you researched how every single state in the North can be on solar and wind powered, not even hydro? grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 9:12am On Oct 27, 2023
iwaeda:


Have you researched how every single state in the North can be on solar and wind powered, not even hydro? grin grin grin grin grin
Who would pay for it ?

If people can pay for the light what stops them from doing so privately for their house
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mikeapollo: 9:21am On Oct 27, 2023
CodeTemplar:
Dangote will soon generate more power for his industries than our grid can take at once.

The power generated by Dangote would be for his companies, not for the national grid.
Let's stop making excuses for the failure of a federal government that collects virtually all revenue accruable to the nation but is unable to deliver anything meaningful.

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by JagabanB: 9:23am On Oct 27, 2023
mrvitalis:
The problem has never been electricity the problem has been poverty

If Nigerians are rich enough we would have 24 hours electricity

In fact 90% of Nigerians that can afford 24 hrs electricity enjoy near 24 hours electricity in Nigeria its that simple

How many did Peter Obi support during his time as govèrñór?
You started very well with ur comment and ended it poorly.
Obi had the opportunity to do these stuffs as govèrñór, what did he do about it?
Nothing, today he is suggesting.

Nigerians are too poor

Wealth creation through SMEs like Peter Obi suggested is the key thing

Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Yorubafonja: 9:24am On Oct 27, 2023
mrvitalis:
The problem has never been electricity the problem has been poverty

If Nigerians are rich enough we would have 24 hours electricity

In fact 90% of Nigerians that can afford 24 hrs electricity enjoy near 24 hours electricity in Nigeria its that simple



Nigerians are too poor

Wealth creation through SMEs like Peter Obi suggested is the key thing

What are you saying,,
Are u using ur head,, what has Nigerians poverty got to do with government electrical infrastructure uninterrupted power?,
Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by Angelfrost(m): 9:25am On Oct 27, 2023
The deficit has nothing to do with generation or supply...!

It's largely down to affordability.

Over 80% of Nigerians can't afford uninterrupted power supply... Hell, most Nigerians can't even afford an economy that is not heavily subsidized.

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by StaffofOrayan(m): 9:27am On Oct 27, 2023
mrvitalis:

Lmaooo let me humor you yes electricity but not commercial electricity

Any serious factory can produce all their electricity they need

If sweets n chewing gum factory can power themselves

Electricity is not an excuse why we are not industrialized
The reason for the second industrial revolution was gas so people could produce power when when they want not commercial electricity

E go hard to educate Nigerians sha


Electricity simply means ENERGY!
The first industrial revolution was made possible with coal ENERGY
Do you even take a minute to think about the crap you are saying?
There is a reason ELECTRICITY is called POWER!

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by mrvitalis(m): 9:27am On Oct 27, 2023
Yorubafonja:

What are you saying,,
Are u using ur head,, what has Nigerians poverty got to do with government electrical infrastructure uninterrupted power?,
You want electricity for free ? Who would buy the electricity ?

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Re: Nigeria’s Electricity Deficit, World’s Largest -UK Envoy by groovie(m): 9:28am On Oct 27, 2023
MrVitalis is correct with his analysis. Until Nigeria graduates from a vicious economy to a virtuous economy we will keep hearing the same stories. Whatever happened to the Siemens power arrangement? Any serious company can get Nigeria powered in 1 to 2 years at least but the buying power of Nigerians have been frittered away through different means

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