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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Kafirbigot: 10:33pm On Dec 11, 2023
You are weak and a degenerate fuul. You are busy Ranting while the same people have bought all your lands in Lagos and made your ancestors slaves.. cool



SonOfDSoil01:
grin another flat head on the loose….I was not the one that said it, ask your lord and saviour lamidi Kanu grin
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by olas24u(f): 10:45pm On Dec 11, 2023
Kafirbigot:
As you claim they are lies...why crying over what is verifiable? cool


Of course you are from the east and like stupid analyses that boost your ego.which is all fake .
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Kafirbigot: 11:06pm On Dec 11, 2023
Pig. Why are you Ranting foolishly over what you claim is fake? cool



olas24u:

Of course you are from the east and like stupid analyses that boost your ego.which is all fake .
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by SonOfDSoil01: 1:13am On Dec 12, 2023
Kafirbigot:
You are weak and a degenerate fuul. You are busy Ranting while the same people have bought all your lands in Lagos and made your ancestors slaves.. cool



hahaha see this useless flat head pauper that is busy running after cars in Lagos traffic selling gala and bottle water grin online billionaires….the same land your flat head father is cry about being demolished grin

Nyamiris are everyone’s slave in Nigeria and your ancestors has always been begging for freedom from it slave masters grin or is it not your cursed tribe that has been crying marginalisation on this thread? You better wake up Okoro…Yoruba man is the commander in chief and after the Sw, your northern slave master with have it and the circle goes on and on…while your generation will continue dying in road accidents just to escape that sad east jungle grin we know every flat head dream is to live and die and Sw, sad yeast has been turned to burial ground only to bury your dead, that’s why no one ever invest in sad east except your clannish and primitive Osu tribe grin
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by olas24u(f): 10:32am On Dec 12, 2023
Kafirbigot:
Pig. Why are you Ranting foolishly over what you claim is fake? cool




The GDP figures quoted were fake .
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Sleekfingers: 5:04pm On Dec 12, 2023
Generalmystic:
You see, when oyibo without a form of interest or emotional attachment to Nigeria speaks, you can't help but agree with him.

I'm not from SE, but that region has been so neglected.




Neglected by who? Don't they have governors? Whats the primary job of a governor?
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by AnyanwuSilas: 9:10pm On Dec 12, 2023
santaclaws:
The government needs to do more for the South East, I totally agree. They also need to embark on programs that foster national unity...

The only wrong thing he said was the seaport; there is no sea or ocean in the south east to begin with, so where do they locate it in the region since it's landlocked? Except for Lagos & the Niger delta, locating a seaport anywhere else is a complete trash idea.

What the SE needs is a good rail network and dry ports to transport cargo from and to various parts of Nigeria.
When we talk of sea port in the south east we talk of a port in a geographical region, not a political region. Why are the ports in Delta and PH not working? The man is not talking of political region, Akwa Ibom is more of south east than Anambra. This is the same reason some of you think that Mary Slasure stopped the killing of twins in Igbo land. Africans should wake up o, the world is being restructured
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by AnyanwuSilas: 9:24pm On Dec 12, 2023
SeeWahala:


But the same country called Nigeria itself is and has always been a hell undecided igbos tried to break out and escape to their heaven but you guys forced them to remain with you in hell by fighting a civil war cry
Hell is actually coming, this time around we will drag them into it, i'm glad this won't be like the 1967 proxy war between French and British. Africa is the future and the world has ended.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by santaclaws: 11:57pm On Dec 12, 2023
AnyanwuSilas:
When we talk of sea port in the south east we talk of a port in a geographical region, not a political region. Why are the ports in Delta and PH not working? The man is not talking of political region, Akwa Ibom is more of south east than Anambra.

This is the same reason some of you think that Mary Slasure stopped the killing of twins in Igbo land. Africans should wake up o, the world is being restructured

Onne port (Rivers) state was named the fastest-growing seaport in Nigeria in 2022, stop writing what you don't know!

The 2 regions in Nigeria (SW, SS) that have coastlines (sea/ocean) have ports working at different capacities. The FG doesn't create oceans or seas, they can only build on what's available.

All the ports in Nigeria are in the Southern part of the country. Northerners are supposed to be the ones complaining but somehow they have common sense to know that they can't have a seaport since God didn't create an ocean in the North. It's only the "educated southerners" that like to argue over silly, impossible things!
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by AnyanwuSilas: 7:05am On Dec 14, 2023
santaclaws:


Onne port (Rivers) state was named the fastest-growing seaport in Nigeria in 2022, stop writing what you don't know!

The 2 regions in Nigeria (SW, SS) that have coastlines (sea/ocean) have ports working at different capacities. The FG doesn't create oceans or seas, they can only build on what's available.

All the ports in Nigeria are in the Southern part of the country. Northerners are supposed to be the ones complaining but somehow they have common sense to know that they can't have a seaport since God didn't create an ocean in the North. It's only the "educated southerners" that like to argue over silly, impossible things!
The port in the south eastern Nigeria is not working based on FG policies, You're an ignoramus, only a fool will be talking of political regions when we are talking of geographical regions. To you everything is politics. If you're not a hypocrite then why do you say North? Why not North West, North East or North Central.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by santaclaws: 7:35am On Dec 14, 2023
AnyanwuSilas:
The port in the south eastern Nigeria is not working based on FG policies, You're an ignoramus, only a fool will be talking of political regions when we are talking of geographical regions. To you everything is politics. If you're not a hypocrite then why do you say North? Why not North West, North East or North Central.

It is well with you...
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by AnyanwuSilas: 9:51pm On Dec 14, 2023
santaclaws:

It is well with you...
And also with you.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Greenback: 7:06pm On Feb 26
Alaska90:


Please stop this rubbish....

Igbo people dont need Federal government to build port in the east

You can do it yourself

The Lekki port was built by Lagos government and Chinese private company with Federal government having just 2% share of the port

So are you telling me the 5 Igbo states cannot build a port on their own?

You need less than 2bn dollars to build a small port and the chinese bank are ready to put the money down as long a chinese construction company will be awarded the contract

Please stop disturbing everybody with this port issue. Hold your Governors accountable
Shut up ya mouth if you don't know anything.
The federal government thru noa and NNPC have ports in Lagos,port Harcourt,Calabar,warri before those privately owned ports all over Lagos and the deltas. So which port belongs to the federal government in the east to open up the place?!
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by PHAYOL81: 9:44pm On Feb 26
SmartyPants:


Well, I don't know too much about the 60s but the reality is that as of today the Lagos - Ibadan axis is probably by far the largest population centre in Nigeria today, and with good spending power! Is this a bad thing?

It is not as though it was designed this way to spite the Igbos. In fact, the Igbos have taken advantage of this to establish large trading networks. So I think, really, there is no marginalization in the sense that everyone enjoys the fruit of Lagos - Ibadan commercial viability.

Was there any marginalisation involved in how this viability came about? I don't think so at all. Historically, Lagos has always been a nerve centre because of its strategic location, leading both the Portuguese and the British, and even the Benins before them to make Lagos their central port and for the British, their Nigerian colonial capital. Lagos then developed naturally as a capital city, the same way Abuja is doing. None of this was done to spite anybody.

So when you look at the situation of Lagos as a major population centre you should understand that it was already a major hub long before independence, with considerable colonial resources already devoted to it. Naturally, those Nigerians seeking to make a success of themselves gravitated towards the colonial centre, which then became the first national capital. What that meant was that the best and brightest of Nigerians were drawn to Lagos leading to further innovation and development such as in the growth of the indigenous financial sector.

Similarly, before you talk about establishing a seaport in the East, you have to first ensure that it will be economically viable either for import or for export. If it is for import as is done in Lagos, then the question is, where is the population?

Secondly, what will be the economic impact of situating a seaport in Igboland as of today, when Igboland is already a hub of manufacturing but still in its growth phase? The significance of Igbo industries being in a growth phase is that:

1. If you say you want to increase imports without first increasing population, then you're saying you want to drown those growing industries

2. If you say you want to increase exports, then you are saying you want to compete in a global market that you are not yet ready for.

The conditions for a seaport are simply not there - not economically, not geographically, and even in terms of security.

We are focusing on the wrong things as a nation out of greed and rivalry.

As I've said so many times, what we should be doing is harnessing our respective competitive advantages, not competing. Igbos are good at manufacturing and trade - why not manufacture and distribute to the rest of Nigeria? A seaport will not give you any advantages at this time, and not having one is not evidence of marginalization!

YOU honestly don't have to give this long sermon for them. If they believe they need seaport, let them invest in it. Nigeria didn't build Apapa for Lagos. They inherited and expanded it, owing to its unarguable viability. And when LAGOS GOVERNMENT felt like they needed another, they looked for investors to partner for its realization. Lekki seaport got approval same way the proposed IBAKA/IBOM got approval from the BUHARI led FG, but while LAGOS went ahead to make it happen, the AKWA IBOM government instead was merely playing around, building a mega church project that has little economic benefit for the state (waiting on either FG or imaginary investors that they hardly sought for). If any SE government believe in the viability of the port project, they can seek approval for it and start. It's that simple.

Greenback:

Shut up ya mouth if you don't know anything.
The federal government thru noa and NNPC have ports in Lagos,port Harcourt,Calabar,warri before those privately owned ports all over Lagos and the deltas. So which port belongs to the federal government in the east to open up the place?!

THE guy you quoted was right. All the ports you mentioned were inherited by FG from the colonial era, not built by FG. When the serious state wanted another, they sought approval and investors to get it done. A mere DANGOTE too has a mini seaport in LEKKI to facilitate his refinery logistics services easily. If Dangote can do it, what stops a state governor from doing same if the state believes they need one like DANGOTE? You've heard of LEKKI DEEP SEAPORT too, it's an investment of LASG under PPP in hope to improve the IGR. If SOUTH EAST governors believe in ports, seek investors too or borrow loan to do it. Or must FG go out of their way to build yours?

Greenback:

Was there NNPC when the colonialists were still around?
All federal government ports in Lagos and the deltas are established and operated by the NNPC. There's one run by npa in Calabar. These weren't in existence or operation in the colonial era. They belong to the federal government. I know all these cos I'm a seaman and I sail these places and don't ever assume that everyone else is Igbo cos I am not.


Fisrt of, you ain't seaman else you'd have seen years of establishment of some facilities at the seaport. Tell me, which other Apapa port was the LAGOS colony using to transport palm oil, groundnut, timber, cocoa, rubber, et all before amalgamation? What year was Apapa port established and which FG government established it?
Secondly you're IGBO. DON'T sweat it, you are. A yoruba man knows APAPA predated NIGERIA and NNPC. And an ignorant YORUBA guy would rather not try hard to debunk information he has no knowledge about, especially against his tribe. He would rather go ahead to research if the information is true if he's adamant not to be bias. Besides, your stance perfectly reflected the IGBOs as handed down to them by their begrudging forefathers and then, parents.
FG inherited Lagos air and seaport. LAGOS AIRPORT too was before NIGERIA, no FAAN, no NNPC, no NPA when they all started. Like telecommunication, power generation facilities, television transmission network that were acquired and expanded by NITEL, NEPA, and NTA respectively when NIGERIA acquired LAGOS, same way FAAN and NPA got the ports too. Nigeria merely changed and expanded them till some of them interconnect to newly built facilities nationwide.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Greenback: 10:38pm On Feb 26
PHAYOL81:


YOU honestly don't have to give this long sermon for them. If they believe they need seaport, let them invest in it. Nigeria didn't build Apapa for Lagos. They inherited and expanded it, owing to its unarguable viability. And when LAGOS GOVERNMENT felt like they needed another, they looked for investors to partner for its realization. Lekki seaport got approval same way the proposed IBAKA/IBOM got approval from the BUHARI led FG, but while LAGOS went ahead to make it happen, the AKWA IBOM government instead was merely playing around, building a mega church project that has little economic benefit for the state (waiting on either FG or imaginary investors that they hardly sought for). If any SE government believe in the viability of the port project, they can seek approval for it and start. It's that simple.



THE guy you quoted was right. All the ports you mentioned were inherited by FG from the colonial era, not built by FG. When the serious state wanted another, they sought approval and investors to get it done. A mere DANGOTE too has a mini seaport in LEKKI to facilitate his refinery logistics services easily. If Dangote can do it, what stops a state governor from doing same if the state believes they need one like DANGOTE? You've heard of LEKKI DEEP SEAPORT too, it's an investment of LASG under PPP in hope to improve the IGR. If SOUTH EAST governors believe in ports, seek investors too or borrow loan to do it. Or must FG go out of their way to build yours?
Was there NNPC when the colonialists were still around?
All federal government ports in Lagos and the deltas are established and operated by the NNPC. There's one run by npa in Calabar. These weren't in existence or operation in the colonial era. They belong to the federal government. I know all these cos I'm a seaman and I sail these places and don't ever assume that everyone else is Igbo cos I am not.

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