akpumping7720:

Will get out from here for distorting history. Liars

Oga please can you answer this question. Were the regions abolished? Yes or No. Because in hindsight the regions were still there.

Housing:


Imo State have the highest number of indigenes in the Federal Civil Service. So done go there.

Oga how many let us start there. These lies don too much

codemaniacs:


what does it mean to centralize something you are very ignorant

this link proves my point and shows your ignorance
https://www.thecable.ng/abused-decree-34-and-the-demand-for-restructuring

I am not stopping you from supporting your demonic and satanic igbo heroes.

you have a mental problem..

Civil service was centralised but regions and revenue sharing was intact. Who altered everything including the sharing? Was it not Gowon with Decree 8? You are the one with a mental problem because you have been trying to use a lie to spread hatred since

Irony1:


Oga you cannot give me any point. Because yourmlies have been exposed. The civil service is highly skewed, even in force recruitment it is the same thing. I have an uncle that was not recruited into the army because he was Igbo in the 70s.

you can keep supporting your ignorant opinions and demonic and satanic igbo heroes it is a free world.

just note that anywhere you scream "marginalization" I will there to rubbish your claims.

codemaniacs:


you can keep supporting your ignorant opinions and demonic and satanic igbo heroes it is a free world.

just note that anywhere you scream "marginalization" I will there to rubbish your claims.

Oga you have no point here. I have brought so many proofs to discredit all the nonsense you typed.

With all the opportunity Igbos had under GEJ govt. All these infrastructure could have been built if they truly wanted it. The truth is like every other part of Nigeria the political class are the most wicked. Since 1999 no single state or LGA in Igboland has ever been denied allocation. Not even did the leadership of that side proposed a seaport and was it rejected. Enugu got an international airport under GEJ. Let's face it, our local leaders are the problem not any imaginary enemies.

Irony1:


Oga please can you answer this question. Were the regions abolished? Yes or No. Because in hindsight the regions were still there.

When you are ready to tell yourself the truth you will definitely do that.

akpumping7720:

People that are very ment. Throughout the 8 years of Buhari they called him all sort of names and even said he was cloned. They insulted the fulanis. Tinubu is there now and they are still repeating the same thing. They keep doing the same thing all over again and they are expecting change. Is that not madness?

they are wired to think one way....herd mentality. Nigerians are wiser now and wont fall for that emotional blackmail anymore

akpumping7720:

When you are ready to tell yourself the truth you will definitely do that.

Wait let me show you an summary of an article on decree 34. The problem with you guys is that you don't read at all. That is why people like you reinforce the statement that to hide anything from a black man put it in a book.

Summary of decree 34 is that regions will be called group of provinces(which is what the regions are) now military governor cannotnincur expenditure without approval. Note that statement, decree 34 didn't take away the revenue sharing powers of the regions. Decree 34 centralised the federal and regional civil service to be subject to the military Council or the permanent secretary. The only lacuna there is the merging of the civil service. In hindsight decree 34 still kept the revenue framework of the regions and truly there was nothing wrong with decree 34 in hindsight.

The structure we have today is far different from decree 34, but rather it was modifications of decree8 made by Gowon which broke regions into states and also consolidated the regional revenue to the center for distribution and sharing to the regions.

Please you guys should see that propaganda no dey sell again.

Irony1:


Oga you have no point here. I have brought so many proofs to discredit all the nonsense you typed.

Irony1:


Civil service was centralised but regions and revenue sharing was intact. Who altered everything including the sharing? Was it not Gowon with Decree 8? You are the one with a mental problem because you have been trying to use a lie to spread hatred since

it is not about points it is about debunking your marginalization noise.

how do you kill the leaders of other major tribes and still leave the revenue sharing to be intact when does other regions were richer than the eastern region

to centralize a government means to direct all revenue to the central government.. you are really ignorant..

for example while you and your people make $11b so you will kill the leader of another tribe that's getting $38b and still leave the followers ( who will be seeking revenge against you ) to keep receiving $38b when you know they will use the money to re-group and kill you in response.. you are not intelligent if you believe revenue sharing remained intact and talking to you reduces my own intelligence ..

you must think you're talking to dullards suffering from ignorance like you on NL...

akpumping7720 has already posted image on regions..

codemaniacs:




it is not about points it is about debunking your marginalization noise.

how do you kill the leaders of other major tribes and still leave the revenue sharing to be intact when does other regions were richer than the eastern region

to centralize a government means to direct all revenue to the central government.. you are really ignorant..

for example while you and your people make $11b so you will kill the leader of another tribe that's getting $38b and still leave the followers ( who will be seeking revenge against you ) to keep receiving $38b when you know they will use the money to re-group and kill you in response.. you are not intelligent if you believe revenue sharing remained intact and talking to you reduces my own intelligence ..

you must think you're talking to dullards suffering from ignorance like you on NL...

akpumping7720 has already posted image on regions..

Let me start with the picture from Ironsi. You see it is people like you that give the black man a bad name because you guys cannot use your sense to read and understand. Now let us summarise decree 34.

The regions were abolished and put into territories known as group of provinces. Please tell me are regions not group of provinces? You are not a smart person walahi. He also stated that provincial governors will have no say over incuring expenditure without approval which is how the military works take note he said expenditures, he never altered the revenue framework of the regions. He consolidated both federal and regional civil service to be subject to the military Council pr the permanent secretary. Note again that the regional frameworks were never altered, the person who destroyed regionalism was Gowon with decree 8, where he stated that revenues will be consolidated in the center and shared to all States according to a sharing formula. He did this to prevent Ojukwu who was the military governor of Eastern region to have proceed of crude oil sales which ordinarily will accrue to the Eastern region. That formula and decree 8 has been altered all these years to what we have now.
So it was never Ironsi or decree 34, stop lies and propaganda.

codemaniacs:




it is not about points it is about debunking your marginalization noise.

how do you kill the leaders of other major tribes and still leave the revenue sharing to be intact when does other regions were richer than the eastern region

to centralize a government means to direct all revenue to the central government.. you are really ignorant..

for example while you and your people make $11b so you will kill the leader of another tribe that's getting $38b and still leave the followers ( who will be seeking revenge against you ) to keep receiving $38b when you know they will use the money to re-group and kill you in response.. you are not intelligent if you believe revenue sharing remained intact and talking to you reduces my own intelligence ..

you must think you're talking to dullards suffering from ignorance like you on NL...

akpumping7720 has already posted image on regions..

Again how can you say other regions were richer than Eastern region that had vast oil, that had coal which was still being exported? Bros don't be desperate when you want to lie. Lie with sense please

The injustices against the old eastern region is long over due, what we need now is the release of our leader Mr. Nnamdi Kanu and the date for Biafra referendum. We are tired of Nigeria and we are ready to go, people who still want the British creation called Nigeria can continue to be in that hell of a country, as for Biafran's we are going to our old nation Biafra devoid of hate/segregation.

#Release#Mazi#Nnamdi#Kanu#Now

Restructuring will help Nigeria thrive

Eriokanmi:
Who are the make una?. Do i sound like ibo to you? Iranu! Go to every Street, major areas in lagos, how many of our people own shops, hotels etc? What of pharmaceutical and other key sectors? 90% of hotels in lagos are owned by them. They own 3 of the major banks here. Tribalism has blinded the eyes of most of you such that, they came here, bought houses which they initially rented and the owner vacates it . Omo onilę didn't see any potential in the land he's selling and using the money to marry more wives and drink ogogoro, but was so much enticed by the money and sold it for omo ibo to erect mansions and hotels, even in choice locations in lagos.

Instead of you guys to learn from their business prosperity and prowess, you're busy playing the tribal game and as you're busy doing that, they're also busy taking our lands and sending our people to Ifo, Mowe, Ibafo where our people go after selling their lands in lagos to get cheap plots to build on. Go to lekki, ajah, VI...etc they've taken over. You can only rant and rant. Until you're able to remove that stick of Tribalism blocking your eyes, the trend will only continue.

Hospitality business, awon omo ibo ni
Logistics, awon naa ni
Automobile, awon ni
Transportation, awon ni.
Banking, they're taking over already
Pharmaceutical, na dem

Go to airport road and see their hotels line up on both sides. What were our people looking at, when they were busy buying all these places? E ma gbon lojokan. If you can't beat them, better join them. I've gained a lot from these people. Enough said.

you are just writing rubbish... Absolute rubbish... I know you have subscribe your brain to people like nnamdi Kanu that's why u can't reason well...

Irony1:


Again how can you say other regions were richer than Eastern region that had vast oil, that had coal which was still being exported? Bros don't be desperate when you want to lie. Lie with sense please

Nigeria only started making money from oil in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

the igbo region of the eastern region was the poorest region, eastern Nigeria revenue was from Calabar and other non-igbo regions..

codemaniacs:


Nigeria only started making money from oil in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

the igbo region of the eastern region was the poorest region, eastern Nigeria revenue was from Calabar and other non-igbo regions..

Haaaa!!!!! Ohhhh my God look at your logic, you are really desperate sha. So coal that was rhe nation's earner was from which part of the eastern region? Also another lie from you has been busted the nation started making money from crude oil sales in 1963 with the completion of Okirika jetty.

codemaniacs:


Nigeria only started making money from oil in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

the igbo region of the eastern region was the poorest region, eastern Nigeria revenue was from Calabar and other non-igbo regions..

you are really desperate I have to tell you that. Coal was from which part of eastern region. And the last I checked was bringing in big money to the eastern region that it financed the building of the now old PH refinery. Bros go and get a decent job to do propaganda no dey sell again.

Irony1:


Let me start with the picture from Ironsi. You see it is people like you that give the blackmail a bad name because you guys cannot use your sense to read and understand. Now let us summarise decree 34.

The regions were abolished and put into territories known as group of provinces. Please tell me are regions not group of provinces? You are not a smart person walahi. He also stated that provincial governors will have no say over incuring expenditure without approval which is how the military works take note he said expenditures, he never altered the revenue framework of the regions. He consolidated both federal and regional civil service to be subject to the military Council pr the permanent secretary. Note again that the regional frameworks were never altered, the person who destroyed regionalism was Gowon with decree 8, where he stated that revenues will be consolidated in the center and shared to all States according to a sharing formula. He did this to prevent Ojukwu who was the military governor of Eastern region to have proceed of crude oil sales which ordinarily will accrue to the Eastern region. That formula and decree 8 gas been altered all these years to what we have now.
So it was never Ironsi or decree 34, stop lies and propaganda.

igbos are not marginalized..

no matter what you say and believe the truth is that ironsi abolished regionalism.

I am not quoting to prove who is correct and who is not correct and that is something you don't have the intelligence to understand.

I am not arguing with you.

I am giving you the views of a non-igbo person and how non-igbos see igbo people and their lies.

you can try emotional blackmail on me but it won't work.

because I already know that igbos only believe what comes out of another igbo persons mouth or a whyte man's mouth. any non-igbo that tries to enlighten an igbo is seen as a fool and threat to igbos..

keep on believing your anti-non-igbo and demonic and satanic opinions that have been passed down to you..

its a free world.

callthefred:
With all the opportunity Igbos had under GEJ govt. All these infrastructure could have been built if they truly wanted it. The truth is like every other part of Nigeria the political class are the most wicked. Since 1999 no single state or LGA in Igboland has ever been denied allocation. Not even did the leadership of that side proposed a seaport and was it rejected. Enugu got an international airport under GEJ. Let's face it, our local leaders are the problem not any imaginary enemies.

Look we know that the elites are wicked, but see if you understand the politics behind project allocation you will know why they scream marginalization. Let me take you down memory lane, when Benin- Asaba was dualized due to Anenih's influence as minister of works. There was a serious clamour for Onitsha- Owerri Road to be dualised, they never agreed, until Massob started that was when Obasanjo in 2003 decided to award the dualisation project to CCC guess who were opposing this in the Senate? It was northerners, the sooner you realise how badly skewed this country is then you would understand very well when igbos shout marginalization.

codemaniacs:


igbos are not marginalized..

no matter what you say and believe the truth is that ironsi abolished regionalism.

I am not quoting to prove who is correct and who is not correct and that is something you don't have the intelligence to understand.

I am not arguing with you.

I am giving you the views of a non-igbo person and how non-igbos see igbo people and their lies.

you can try emotional blackmail on me but it won't work.

because I already know that igbos only believe what comes out of another igbo persons mouth or a whyte man's mouth. any non-igbo that tries to enlighten an igbo is seen as a fool and threat to igbos..

keep on believing your anti-non-igbo and demonic and satanic opinions that have been passed down to you..

its a free world.

Ohhhh my God you have not even said anything to disprove what I said. The summary of decree 34 was based on the link you gave from cable newspapers. See you guys cannot win this propaganda it doesn't sell anymore.

Irony1:


Haaaa!!!!! Ohhhh my God look at your logic, you are really desperate sha. So coal that was rhe nation's earner was from which part of the eastern region? Also another lie from you has been busted the nation started making money from crude oil sales in 1963 with the completion of Okirika jetty.

Irony1:


you are really desperate I have to tell you that. Coal was from which part of eastern region. And the last I checked was bringing in big money to the eastern region that it financed the building of the now old PH refinery. Bros go and get a decent job to do propaganda no dey sell again.

Now you are proving my points..

so you're saying in the 1960s igbo had all these money and they were shouting marginalization and now in 2023 they have 5 - 7 states, senators, commissioners, 2 internation airports and 2 international seaports and are still shouting marginalization...

since igbos made all this money then what was the reason for killing the prime minister, abolishing regionalism and the civil war.

the igbo region was broke and poor that's one of the reasons for the war.

you have mental issues

Irony1:


Wait let me show you an summary of an article on decree 34. The problem with you guys is that you don't read at all. That is why people like you reinforce the statement that to hide anything from a black man put it in a book.

Summary of decree 34 is that regions will be called group of provinces(which is what the regions are) now military governor cannotnincur expenditure without approval. Note that statement, decree 34 didn't take away the revenue sharing powers of the regions. Decree 34 centralised the federal and regional civil service to be subject to the military Council or the permanent secretary. The only lacuna there is the merging of the civil service. In hindsight decree 34 still kept the revenue framework of the regions and truly there was nothing wrong with decree 34 in hindsight.

The structure we have today is far different from decree 34, but rather it was modifications of decree8 made by Gowon which broke regions into states and also consolidated the regional revenue to the center for distribution and sharing to the regions.

Please you guys should see that propaganda no dey sell again.

See all these narratives you are trying to change will not work. Baba I taught government in colleges for more than 10 years. So just dey play.

akpumping7720:

See all these narratives you are trying to change will not work. Baba I taught government in colleges for more than 10 years. So just dey play.

Oga you taught in government colleges doesn't make you very knowledgeable there are people who can logically analyse statement devoid of bias.

Irony1:


Ohhhh my God you have not even said anything to disprove what I said. The summary of decree 34 was based on the link you gave from cable newspapers. See you guys cannot win this propaganda it doesn't sell anymore.

there is no point in trying to disprove an igbo man. like I said igbos only believe other igbos and that they are the only ones that are 100% saying the truth.

you believe your truth and I am only encouraging you so that you reveal other things about yourself because like I said you are not intelligent.. and you have proven that you're unemployed and dull.

igbos are not marginalized. but you keep trying to change topic and indirectly proving my points that igbos are not marginalized.

codemaniacs:




Now you are proving my points..

so you're saying in the 1960s igbo had all these money and they were shouting marginalization and now in 2023 they have 5 - 7 states, senators, commissioners, 2 internation airports and 2 international seaports and are still shouting marginalization...

since igbos made all this money then what was the reason for killing the prime minister, abolishing regionalism and the civil war.

the igbo region was broke and poor that's one of the reasons for the war.

you have mental issues

Dude you are too desperate, what you said here has no link with rhe topic under discussion. Dude but wait oooo I thought you said you will not argue with me again the urge is really biting into you because you cannot stand that all your propaganda games are calmly dissected and washed off as lies.

codemaniacs:


there is no point in trying to disprove an igbo man. like I said igbos only believe other igbos and that they are the only ones that are 100% saying the truth.

you believe your truth and I am only encouraging you so that you reveal other things about yourself because like I said you are not intelligent.. and you have proven that you're unemployed and dull.

igbos are not marginalized. but you keep trying to change topic and indirectly proving my points that igbos are not marginalized.

Stop trying to form that you are smart, it is showing that it is a difficult task for you. Imagine you that doesn't even matter in the situation of things telling me that you are encouraging me to reveal myself.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wonders shall never end.

Kafirbigot:
They will say he is IPOB..ESN...OBIDIENT...

Just watch

The data he his quotating are all lies,only a stupid person will believe such.

Irony1:


Stop trying to form that you are smart, it is showing that it is a difficult task for you. Imagine you that doesn't even matter in the situation of things telling me that you are encouraging me to reveal myself.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 wonders shall never end.

Irony1:


Dude you are too desperate, what you said here has no link with rhe topic under discussion. Dude but wait oooo I thought you said you will not argue with me again the urge is really biting into you because you cannot stand that all your propaganda games are calmly dissected and washed off as lies.

I am responding to you because I wanted to see if you will go off topic and when you don't have any more points I wanted to see if you will begin to dis-credit and attack me the same way all my previous chats with igbo supremacists like you ended.

they all end in igbo supremacists like you changing the topic and trying to dis-credit the person..

the same way you guys naturally attack and try to dis-credit non-igbos..

you have proved and keep proving my points.

igbos are not marginalized.

Irony1:


Oga you taught in government colleges doesn't make you very knowledgeable there are people who can logically analyse statement devoid of bias.

Just dey play. Your people used to paint Abacha bad little did most of you genzs know that your saviour from Agulu once worked under him until you were shown the receipt. So whatever I want to analyse to you won't even make any difference so why should I even stress myself.

OGHENAOGIE:
you are just writing rubbish... Absolute rubbish... I know you have subscribe your brain to people like nnamdi Kanu that's why u can't reason well...

I can never be ibo. Read my lips. Truth is bitter. Just challenge those facts I put up there if you have any proofs

Gerrard59:


The Jews are very powerful, and you had governments which are sympathetic, aka have conscience. The German government has acknowledged the genocides in Namibia and Tanzania. The Dutch have done the same for colonisation in Indonesia. Black dominated governments never do the same. There is a reason I want the White man to continue his dominance of the world. If he ever fails, the Chinese man takes over. The Black man should never dominate this world as it is. Not like it is going to be possible anyway.

Secondly, asking for quotas tends to harm a group more than good. Isn't it funny that Igbos who suffered a civil war which decimated their livelihoods and the society are made to attain high scores over the north, which hasn't experienced such? For instance, Chinese Malays dominate the private sector in Malaysia and score very high in national examinations even though there are national quotas for native Malays. The Chinese out-perform every other racial group even though national policies are stacked against them.

The aim is for equal opportunities, not equal outcomes.

stfu....your beloved whites are finished....
if you think anybody is gonna forgive them for what they did and are still doing then you are a foolish dreamer....

you shall go down with them....