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Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 3:28pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: So, where did Jude quote from? Enoch chapter 1: 9 reads, “And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to destroy all the ungodly: and to convict all flesh of all the works of their ungodliness which the ungodly have committed, and of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” Jude 1:14 reads: “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” Where did Jude take the prophecy of Enoch from? Jude explicitly indicated he was quoting Enoch. Where did he quote Enoch from? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:32pm On Feb 01 |
FxMasterz: Oga Go and read the book of Enoch first Nowhere did Jude reference to the Book of Enoch |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:34pm On Feb 01 |
BloomingDale: Ok You are not even making any sense Blowing hot and cold at the same time Who was God talking to regarding Job? Himself? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:41pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: And everyone can see the agbero Doing Something leaving every reasonable wondering what your mama did, to get this shit. Especially as people do not.even do shit, unless you yourself have done shit, So, you have nothing and stop looking for endless vain arguments. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:46pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: You are turning blind like atheist. He just cited Enoch 1:9 and you are still asking for book of Enoch? I have told you jw is equal to hellfire. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 3:49pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Denial won't settle the matter. Please tell me where Jude quoted Enoch from. At least he referenced Enoch. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:50pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Please in what part of the Bible can someone find the book of Enoch? Is it Hebrews, Aramaic or Greek scriptures? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:00pm On Feb 01 |
BloomingDale: It is you who requires an evil mind to create evil not God. And technically, you don't need to have any mind to create as your robots that produce both bombs and cars prove. Ehen, the cartoon character Big Weild in the cartoon Robots gives you a very apt view of how a good mind produces all things good, even a thing which is evil, like acid has its good uses. While a good like the cars we all acquire and seek to acquire can become evil because a person like you used it to plough into people in the market. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Matrix137(m): 5:24pm On Feb 01 |
Westerhoffe:I don't mean any harm bro |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Naijanascam: 6:21pm On Feb 01 |
Dtruthspeaker: Stop deceiving yourself fighting the devil when you are the devil to yourself.... Discipline yourself and everything around you will be in best interest of humanity...
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Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:50pm On Feb 01 |
Matrix137: Alright bro. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:55pm On Feb 01 |
FxMasterz: All those referenced or quoted from the Bible had a book written for them? Enoch gave a very powerful, prophetic judgement against his contemporaries and that judgement has a greater fulfillment that will be done soon and Jehovah himself had it preserved down to our own time. It could have been passed either orally or written or James got the inspiration from Jesus or God himself. Book of Enoch, a book written in the 2nd ir 1st CE is not written by Enoch or his contemporary |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:58pm On Feb 01 |
Dtruthspeaker: Think after you read. If you have read the of Enoch, you too will dismiss it, it's just a fantasy. One verse written that matches what Jude wrote does not mean that book was inspired False teacher calling women seed of Satan. Poor misogynist! |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 7:59pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Really? Why then did the Bible make reference to them? Do you even know that the Book of Enoch is quite inspirational and heart rending? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:01pm On Feb 01 |
Dtruthspeaker: See this one I laugh you You can call out and say that a fellow man like you is cursed cos of arguments on Nairaland and you say things But an agbero should hit you, damage your car and insult you, you will just stay there and be smiling shey? De play It's like you need someone to educate you on how Agbero behave |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:01pm On Feb 01 |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:02pm On Feb 01 |
FxMasterz: Jude indicated he was quoting Enoch words, not a book of Enoch. Did Jude mention book of Enoch, the book of Enoch was written between 200 and 100 BCE. How did that writer get the information on what Enoch said? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:03pm On Feb 01 |
Westerhoffe: You mean that book ot fantasies? Bible never made reference to any book of Enoch |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:05pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Really? No reference to the Book of Enoch? You see why I said you shouldn't argue on this? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Please what part of the Bible can we find this so called "book of Enoch" nah? ![]() |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:08pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: How can you call a Book you have never read a book of fantasies? This is how you guys don't learn on time. It is a Book of Fantasies to you, yet the Bible in the Book of Jude made a reference to its content. Take your time to read the Book of Enoch and the Secrets of Enoch. Then come back and tell me what you see. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:09pm On Feb 01 |
Westerhoffe: Pls Maybe my Bible need to be updated Can you show me the translation that says Jude quoted from the Book of Enoch |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:19pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Enoch 2: Behold, he comes with ten thousands of his saints, to execute judgment upon them, and destroy the wicked, and reprove all the carnal for everything which the sinful and ungodly have done, and committed against him. Jude 1 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁴ And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, ¹⁵ To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FFIA: 9:17pm On Feb 01 |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 9:18pm On Feb 01 |
FFIA: Well, good for you. I don't know either of you. And… you don't need to waste your data trolling me… |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:55pm On Feb 01 |
Westerhoffe: Who wrote the book of Enoch? How many people? When? The book of Enoch says that it was 200 angels that rebelled and had sex with women. Is thst true. Book of fantasies |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:56pm On Feb 01 |
Westerhoffe: Secrets of Enoch? It's ok Have you read the Goals of Enoch? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 9:57pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: What concerns anyone about the writer and his source in this argument? You're the one that should tell us where Jude quoted Enoch from. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:00pm On Feb 01 |
FxMasterz: Where he quoted Enoch from is not significant . The book of Enoch was written several thousands of years after Enoch death. Where did the writers get the information from? |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 10:02pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: There's no evidence that Jude got the text from oral tradition. Infact, there's no such oral tradition in Judaism. He quoted Enoch.directly without insinuating that he heard it from Jesus. He said "Enock the 7th from Adam prophesied..." Where did he get Enoch's prophecy from? Your answers shouldn't be based on assumptions. |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 10:03pm On Feb 01 |
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 10:06pm On Feb 01 |
Aemmyjah: Where he quoted Enock from is significant. He didn't quote him from the air. The book of Enoch was in circulation at the time of Jude. Jude claimed he was quoting Enoch in a particular statement of his. Where could he have quoted Enoch from? |
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