Tflex01:


God bless you.

God bless you too.

I stand with Tinubu even I'm gone

casualobserver:


Devaluation of the Naira which means more Naira revenue. Also the removal of subsidy has reduced the amount of petrol consumed. Petrol needs to revert to market price of approx N1200 because smuggling will resume and we will be back to square 1. That is why I say I am not happy with him that he seems to have backtracked and has introduced subsidy through the back door.

Devaluation of naira cannot pay subsidy. Subsidy is actually dollar denominated. Fuel is an imported product

etunoman76:


My question here is that is it not the same APC party that had Buhari as president. During the time of Buhari we were told to be patient after they spent the first 4 years blaming the Jonathan administration for everything. We are suppose to be consolidating on the gains, if there was any, of the past administration of the same party, and not for a worsening situation like we are having at the moment.

Perhaps, it would have been nice to apply the same pressure on Buhari and the governors then. Buhari had zero economic plan.

Don't get me wrong. I am not against the governors being held to account. I am saying there are 1,305 other persons, including governors, their deputies, representatives, senators and local government administrators who our people let off the hook.

For example, which governor has a sensible economic plan for his state? Some states are bigger than some countries in the world a d they want the president to run them while the governors gallivant like headless chickens.

Look at Wike. As governor of Rivers, he did not agree for IPOB to take root and this guy was opposed to Buhari. But the other governors allowed IPOB to fester. Look at Abuja, as soon as kidnappers ran amok, Wike swung to action. Within a month, people are being arrested for kidnapping. Same Wike is collecting ground rent and find8ng ways to revamp revenue. With increased revenue and projects, jobs would flow and the economy would move.

Other governors are so useless that they can't tackle insecurity. They can't come up with innovative ideas for revenue generation. They can't provide ordinary buses to move their people at subsidized rates. They can't even open farmers markets for people to buy products off farmers.

They only travel abroad and organize themselves into a demonic pressure group to call out the president.

Nigeria developed in the first republic because the leaders looked inwards. Tafawa Balewa did not carry out most of the projects in the regions. The premiers did.

Why are the governors not working?

Starting from you great grand father up to your unborn kids, you are all foolish. Infact foolishness runs in your lineage. Yes I will still vote for BAT. You can go commit suicide for all I care

Jeyun:
you will still vote for bat not because he is the best but because of your foolishness

Lair wey no fit pay him transport commit for him papa rented one room apartment because of hardship wey bat cause for an

If you dey feed yourself you no go talk this nonsense you just talk na

Na your papa i suppose respond to wey still dey pay your bills that one no go even one hear bat two times because e go don go him body round plus having a foolish son like you on top

The man fit follow dey shout ebi n pa waoo

This one go dey nairaland dey form woke because e still dey chop free food

God forbid BATIN

You are delusional? SE is K1, Olaiya, SE is Kunle Ologundudu, those youths who protested in OGun. Ani Oponu ni gbogbo yin seh

adamusuleiman2:

As if people weren't hungry even before Tinubu was sworn in.

In Enugu, people were selling their votes for Okpa and Jollof. In imo, people were hijacking and robbing onion trucks.


As per the bolded, the SE are the ones opening funny wailing threads about hunger all over Nairaland. They are VERY bothered my friend.

The ones that need deliverance from poverty are the one robbing onion trucks of onions, or selling their votes for a plate of Okpa and Jollof.

Orubebe01:
50 kg bag of rice is now 70,000
Bag of cement is now between 12,000/15,000
Price of medicine have all gone up
Naira is now worthless
Companies are closing down because of high cost of production.
Unemployment rate is on the increase.
Price of goods and services increasing astronomically.
Citizens finding it hard to feed.
School fees are on the increase.

My question now is, are you still Batified?
Are you still standing on his mandate?

You have been fooled. They used that so that the poor wouldn't get paid for their votes as expected. Bat don't know the poor but his supporters.
And Atiku and Obi got played.

KayB:
Why not?
Only imbecilties will make someone think a generational decay would wipe off in a year.
He's putting things into perspective though he's handling some vital issues poorly which are orchestrated by conspiratorial forces.

is this the lastest excuse?
If you like bath a pig inside jakusy e go still go play for potopoto.

If you like give the whole excuse for this life APC and tinubu still remains a failure

Grow up little boy

Go and occupy Ojota now na, who or what is stopping you? Look you still have 7 more years to cry. I pray for strength for you.

Franking:


You are the kid here. Your like want people to keep quiet because your God Tinumbu is in charge. Years ago when GEJ was president, your Tinumbu, Buhari and others occupied Ojota. I don't know how old you are yourself but where are those people now? And don't we have far more reasons to occupy Ojota and everywhere else now? Let me help you, I was already of discerning mind when Buhari and Idiagbon overthrew Shagari in 1983. There can never be sustainable peace without justice.

emkz:


I did not allege it. That is an accusation that has been in the public domain for years. Atiku himself admitted to Kadaria Ahmed that he'd make his friends rich because they deserve to be rich. See links below:

https://guardian.ng/news/atiku-vows-to-enrich-friends-if-elected-president/

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/01/18/video-watch-as-atiku-promises-to-enrich-all-his-friends/

https://www.channelstv.com/2019/01/16/im-not-going-to-enrich-members-of-my-family-but-my-friends-atiku/

Obasanjo and El Rufai adduced to Atiku's corruption in their books. Atiku never denied or made anti-corruption pretences. Obasanjo couldn't have prosecuted Atiku as Atiku had immunity. Remember that Obasanjo illegally declared Atiku's seat vacant in 2006. Tinubu gave Atiku succour.

Also recall that there are several allegations against Atiku in the US pertaining to him using his ex-wife, Jennifer Douglas, to launder money through the US real estate market. Atiku's dealings with a former US senator sent the senator to jail.

As for the sale of national assets, PDP messed it up. It was seen as a bazaar. Atiku was Chairman of National Privatization Council.

With Atiku's antecedents and posturing, it is hard to trust him with the national assets and national treasury.

It is one thing to be corrupt, it is completely insane to be proud of it.

All well and good. With Tinubu's alpha beta antecedents which was confirmed by Dapo Apara former MD of Alpha beta, can you in all honesty say Tinubu is more trustworthy than Atiku when it comes to pilfering from the national treasury.
Remember Atiku's heist lasted 8 years while Tinubu's is 24 years and counting

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/n20bn-tinubu-alpha-beta-ex-md-discuss-out-of-court-settlement/%3famp

Usmanovic95:
Thanks to all BATIFIED,a kg of gas is now #1500,i hope you are all proud of what you created.

BATIFIED, God will definitely transform your lives the way the president is transforming the lives of NIGERIANS. An emphatic AMEN is all I need from you.

Hahahahahahahaha


Dem never chi Chon chin😂

emkz:

I did not allege it. That is an accusation that has been in the public domain for years. Atiku himself admitted to Kadaria Ahmed that he'd make his friends rich because they deserve to be rich. See links below:

https://guardian.ng/news/atiku-vows-to-enrich-friends-if-elected-president/

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/01/18/video-watch-as-atiku-promises-to-enrich-all-his-friends/

https://www.channelstv.com/2019/01/16/im-not-going-to-enrich-members-of-my-family-but-my-friends-atiku/

Obasanjo and El Rufai adduced to Atiku's corruption in their books. Atiku never denied or made anti-corruption pretences. Obasanjo couldn't have prosecuted Atiku as Atiku had immunity. Remember that Obasanjo illegally declared Atiku's seat vacant in 2006. Tinubu gave Atiku succour.

Also recall that there are several allegations against Atiku in the US pertaining to him using his ex-wife, Jennifer Douglas, to launder money through the US real estate market. Atiku's dealings with a former US senator sent the senator to jail.

As for the sale of national assets, PDP messed it up. It was seen as a bazaar. Atiku was Chairman of National Privatization Council.

With Atiku's antecedents and posturing, it is hard to trust him with the national assets and national treasury.

It is one thing to be corrupt, it is completely insane to be proud of it.

Why are you confusing privatisation with enriching friends?

Why are you confusing honesty with pride?

In all your balablu town hall posts you have failed to show where he was convicted of corruption.

Meanwhile Tinubu has shown himself to be a rogue who raises money from the masses and receives federal allocation on their behalf but fails to provide services and utilities to match. Moreover, Buhari, Tinubu and APC corruption has been worse than PDP’s as confirmed by TI and the huge growth in debt with no impact on high unemployment etc.

ElSudani:
Absolutely. Reason? He was the only leader who complained when you were using Naira to buy Naira. All the others kept quiet hoping it would benefit them.
What did you all think was going on then?

You have been fooled. They used that so that the poor wouldn't get paid for their votes as expected. Bat doesn't know the poor but his supporters.
And Atiku and Obi got played.

LegendHero:


Cry more.

If election is taking place tomorrow, I will still vote Tinubu.

So all this your nonsense don’t work on me.

And who cares about what mediaeval tribal vuvuzelas like you does or chooses to do?

i dont waste my bullets on misguided and hopeless elements....

Orubebe01:
50 kg bag of rice is now 70,000
Bag of cement is now between 12,000/15,000
Price of medicine have all gone up
Naira is now worthless
Companies are closing down because of high cost of production.
Unemployment rate is on the increase.
Price of goods and services increasing astronomically.
Citizens finding it hard to feed.
School fees are on the increase.

My question now is, are you still Batified?
Are you still standing on his mandate?

Yes 💯% still Batified. All the issues you’re wailing about would have happened under any government. There’s no magic formula or shortcut to fix the rotten Nigerian system

ElSudani:
Absolutely. Reason? He was the only leader who complained when you were using Naira to buy Naira. All the others kept quiet hoping it would benefit them.
What did you all think was going on then?

He complained because it was going to affect his plans, but the crook still bought his way in during their dirty primaries

Agbegbaorogboye:

Devaluation of naira cannot pay subsidy. Subsidy is actually dollar denominated. Fuel is an imported product

You do not understand economics, this thing is above your pay grade.


We had no money as at May 29. We devalued the Naira which means the government is now getting 4 times more Naira that it did for every barrel of crude it sells. This means that for every dollar it used to get it needs less dollars to convert to Naira to meet its local obligations. Which means it can keep more of the dollars it earns and use for other things like subsidy although I have said subsidy should be removed totally. We are feeling pain because we did. It do what we needed to do at the right time. Petrol should be N1200, we are merely delaying the pain by reintroducing subsidy through the back door. If petrol needs to go to N2000, so be it. We need to change our habits. They don’t drive the cars we drive in Europe because petrol is expensive. It is only in Nigeria you will see a poor man driving a V8 gas guzzling used Lexus.

casualobserver:




Whoever became president of Nigeria these problems would have manifested. Of the 3, Tinubu was and remains the most capable of solving the problem, if he can’t none of the 3 can…certainly not Peter Obi. My problem is that he seems to be back tracking on subsidy. The medicine needs to be swallowed. People need to change their habits, a poor man has no business driving a 5 liter SUV, poor Nigerians have no business, eating bread made with imported flour, eat akara and ogi like our fathers made with local farmed ingredients, poor people have no business using imported hair, poor people have no business consuming staples that are imported. My problem is that unless we feel the pain we will not change and I am beginning to worry that Tinubu is backtracking because of the pain….the pain needs to be felt for people to change their habits.

Tinubu did not create this problem, Buhari and jonathan did.

Whoever became president, Nigeria would have fallen and Petrol prices would have gone up resulting in inflation..it was unavoidable. All 3 candidates said they would remove subsidy and float the Naira. We were borrowing to subsidize petrol, we borrowed so much that the oil we produce in future has already been sold. The Chinese had stopped lending us money years ago. There is no money. If Obi or Atiku tells you today they would have removed sibsidy gradually, ask them where would they have gotten the money to continue the subsidy?

We cannot continue with our penchant for imported goods….this is exactly what Peter obi has been preaching that we need to move from consumption to production. This is how moving from consumption to production looks like, you have to make imported goods so expensive that we are forced to look inwards. When did bread become part of the diet of a poor Nigerian? If you must eat bread produce your flour locally!,,

If he is indeed transforming Nigeria like you analysed, just type AMEN to that humble prayer.

Ayo25:
Starting from you great grand father up to your unborn kids, you are all foolish. Infact foolishness runs in your lineage. Yes I will still vote for BAT. You can go commit suicide for all I care

them don cook beans without oil finish for house go see wether e go reach you chop

Dey for nairaland dey vote bat make your papa hear am for your mouth you no go sleep for him one room this night

Foolish son

madridguy:
Yes, I am still fully BATified.

I remain Batified.

Tinubu would do it and the glory of Nigeria and Nigerians shall return.

emkz:
Yes.

For many years, we have been living in a bubble. We subsidized the consumption by the rich. Our refineries have not been producing. There was pervasive insecurity. Oil theft was rife. Chinese were stealing from us. We started handing out dollars to people for reasons that don't make sense. The subsidy was consistently being abused by people who claimed it and still took the products across the borders. Local fuel consumption was inflated. There were no investments in critical infrastructure. Questionable billionaires emerged following the start of the 4th republic. The bought banks and no one knows the source of their incomes. Industries completely collapsed and religion became rife.

Infact, we started borrowing to pay salaries and subsidies. People like Professor Usman Yusuf in NHIS used their positions to rob the nation. Today, they are sudden moralists for a better Nigeria.

What Tinubu is doing is an attempt to refocus things so that the pains will not be even more in the future. Tinubu demonstrates the boldness many before him lacked. We can see some improvements in certain areas. For example, after the kidnap of the Nabeeha family and the killing of Nabeeha herself, we can see how Wike and Co swung into action and have arrested the masterminds. Our military chiefs are not talking too much and are doing the job.

I recall when they started partitioning roads in Lagos for BRT. As soon as the buses were rolled out, no one criticized Tinubu again. So the suffering we are currently facing are pains that will pass.

We only call on Tinubu to go after the sponsors of terrorism, banditry and rogue businessmen inflating prices. We also call on governors to show workings. It is evil for PDP governors to be attacking the president when they should be worried and working harder for their people.

As a people, let us put the same pressure on the governors, representatives and senators as we put on the president.

If the elections hold again, I'd still throw my weight behind Tinubu. Atiku had his time, and he had nothing to show for it beyond plundering national assets to cronies. He is one of the architects of the current mess and should take responsibility. He also lacks understanding of presidential processes. Peter Obi is just a revolt against the status quo and people conveniently forgot he was a governor as well and Anambra did not improve.

Any sincere Nigerian would make suggestions to help the nation.

You to explain taya...it very very difficult to defend failure. What a pitiful situation you got yourself into

The batified on nairaland are so loyal to the core...

They will remain batified for life...

They are the biggest fool on earth.

E pain am

We are Batified until 2031. You can go Bleep yourself.

Jeyun:
them don cook beans without oil finish for house go see wether e go reach you chop

Dey for nairaland dey vote bat make your papa hear am for your mouth you no go sleep for him one room this night

Foolish son

Orubebe01:
50 kg bag of rice is now 70,000
Bag of cement is now between 12,000/15,000
Price of medicine have all gone up
Naira is now worthless
Companies are closing down because of high cost of production.
Unemployment rate is on the increase.
Price of goods and services increasing astronomically.
Citizens finding it hard to feed.
School fees are on the increase.

My question now is, are you still Batified?
Are you still standing on his mandate?

Tinubu is doing well for nigerians. He's indeed 😂a gods-sent

casualobserver:


You do not understand economics, this thing is above your pay grade.


We had no money as at May 29. We devalued the Naira which means the government is now getting 4 times more Naira that it did for every barrel of crude it sells. This means that for every dollar it used to get it needs less dollars to convert to Naira to meet its local obligations. Which means it can keep more of the dollars it earns and use for other things like subsidy although I have said subsidy should be removed totally. We are feeling pain because we did. It do what we needed to do at the right time. Petrol should be N1200, we are merely delaying the pain by reintroducing subsidy through the back door. If petrol needs to go to N2000, so be it. We need to change our habits. They don’t drive the cars we drive in Europe because petrol is expensive. It is only in Nigeria you will see a poor man driving a V8 gas guzzling used Lexus.

You're a funny man. Where did you get this ridiculous idea of needing less dollars to meet local obligations?
Is that really how Nigeria's govt works it you're just blowing steam out if your skull?
It's funny your made such a wrong claim with starting with an insult

Usmanovic95:


If he is indeed transforming Nigeria like you analysed, just type AMEN to that humble prayer.

AMEN! You have no business eat8ng bread with imported flour and you will not change your ways until bread became too expensive for you. You grandfather ate akara and ogi produced by local farmers which contributed to the economy of Nigeria and jobs for Nigerians. When did bread become part of your diet of the average Nigerian…..nonsense! Bread is produced using imported wheat produced by foreign farmers. If you still want to eat bread, either produce wheat in Nigeria or be prepared to pay the price.

seguno2:


Why are you confusing privatisation with enriching friends?

Why are you confusing honesty with pride?

In all your balablu town hall posts you have failed to show where he was convicted of corruption.

Meanwhile Tinubu has shown himself to be a rogue who raises money from the masses and receives federal allocation on their behalf but fails to provide services and utilities to match. Moreover, Buhari, Tinubu and APC corruption has been worse than PDP’s as confirmed by TI and the huge growth in debt with no impact on high unemployment etc.

You obviously misunderstand. He used privatization to enrich his friends.

LegendHero:
100%.

I believe strongly in Tinubu and all this we are seeing currently is what is obtainable at the early stage of a reform.

you no dey ever dey real you sound too fake and corrupt more like a praise singer/ sycophant.

I always see you as an enemy of Nigeria don't just know why

madridguy:
Yes, I am still fully BATified.

Of course and out of SHAME 😂

casualobserver:


You do not understand economics, this thing is above your pay grade.


We had no money as at May 29. We devalued the Naira which means the government is now getting 4 times more Naira that it did for every barrel of crude it sells. This means that for every dollar it used to get it needs less dollars to convert to Naira to meet its local obligations. Which means it can keep more of the dollars it earns and use for other things like subsidy although I have said subsidy should be removed totally. We are feeling pain because we did. It do what we needed to do at the right time. Petrol should be N1200, we are merely delaying the pain by reintroducing subsidy through the back door. If petrol needs to go to N2000, so be it. We need to change our habits. They don’t drive the cars we drive in Europe because petrol is expensive. It is only in Nigeria you will see a poor man driving a V8 gas guzzling used Lexus.

You only succeeded in ventilating. a load of minimalist hogwash...

If yo dont have any meaningful thing to contribute, why not keep mum than being bold in carping drivels...

Agbegbaorogboye:

You're a funny man. Where did you get this ridiculous idea of needing less dollars to meet local obligations?
Is that really how Nigeria's govt works it you're just blowing steam out if your skull?
It's funny your made such a wrong claim with starting with an insult

Did you go to school, do you understand basic arithmetic? As at May 28 2023, if Nigeria gets $1b from oil, they convert it at the official rate and it is N 400b. Today the dollar is approx 1600, which means the same $1b is converted to the government coffers and becomes N1.6 trillion…that is 4 times what used to enter the government coffers.

Now, government’s Naira expenditure has not gone up by a factor of 4. For instance salaries have not gone up 4 fold, Naira repayment of previous government domestic debts have not and will not go up, because the loans were in the past and the repayment are fixed in Naira. So let’s say govt expenses have gone up to N600b from N400b, it means government needs only $400m of the $1b it earns from oil ($400m x 1600 = N640m) to meet its Naira obligations, which leaves it with $600m…..and that is how they are still able to pay subsidy. Without floating the Naira they would not have been able to. That said, there should be absolutely no subsidy. We need to change our habits. The only way you change habits is to make them painful. People need to think twice before they embark on a journey, when choosing the type of cars they buy etc.