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Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 6:39pm On Apr 28 |
razzydoo:Lol... Paul was not deceived and he was a follower of Jesus Christ much the same as thousands others who also loved around that same time were. Religion however is the deceiver in this case as it uses Paul's words as a weapon against God Himself. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 6:41pm On Apr 28 |
DOM7: Exactly. See people pretending as if they dont see that polygamy is complete proof of adultery |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by otherway: 6:41pm On Apr 28 |
Veecruz: You are just complicating matters for yourself. Face the subject and stop parambulating. Leave adultery and fornication out of the equation. I can be married and see a lady I desire and then marry her before sleeping with her.. In that case, I'm not committing adultery cos I AM MARRIED TO HER. So you see why I kept insisting that your arguement is baseless. Its like condemning marriage in its entirety because you feel you can't date a lady without sex b4 you marry her. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Babinski: 6:44pm On Apr 28 |
thesicilian: Marriage is not an institution invented or started by man; it is an institution ordained by God. God made marriage and he made it with the plan being very clear and unambiguous: it is a union between a man and a woman. Genesis 2:21–22; Genesis 1:27-28. In Genesis 1:23-24 it said the woman was bone of the man's bone and flesh of his flesh and “For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh”. Note that the joining is to his wife AND NOT to his wives. Jesus while speaking about divorce in Matthew 19:5 reiterated that "so they are no longer two but one flesh". Note that it is no longer TWO but ONE flesh and not no longer MANY but ONE flesh.. So it is clear from the Bible that God's plan for marriage is one man, one woman. That Prophets in the Old Testament had many wives was not in obedience to God but only at best within his permissive will. That several "Men of God" in the Old Testament had multiple wives points to one of the factors that underlie the weakness of the Old Covenant and the need for the New. God has never showed any liking for polygamy despite being generally silent through the Old Testament on the issue. In fact in Deuteronomy 17:17 when talking about requirements for the future King of Israel, God specifically warned that he (the King) should not acquire many wives. For a fact, in all biblical accounts of men having multiple wives, there was conflict. From Abraham to David to Solomon. It is indeed polygamy and not monogamy, that it is an invention of man and we can all see the effects even through the Bible. There are practices that are customs of men and not God and polygamy as well as divorce are some of them. That was why in respect of divorce in Matthew 19:8-9 despite arguments that it was permitted, Jesus made it clear that it was not the original plan of God. And Paul's positions in the New Testament clearly correspond with God's plan for marriage. So claims that these are simply the opinions of Paul are weak and self serving. In fact, for a "Christian" to say that monogamy is not Biblical shows the level of understanding of the scriptures for such a person. 1 Like |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 6:46pm On Apr 28 |
otherway: Good. So answer this. The bible Said "adultery even takes place without having sex", so explain, how can a married man have a second wife where he has already committed adultery just by looking at another woman who is not his wife? |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Image123(m): 6:48pm On Apr 28 |
JuanDeDios: Hagar was not a wife but a mistake, except you accept that polygamy is a mistake. Nobody joined them together or recognised them as husband and wife. What's your Bible verse about Cushite being a second wife? That's a hypothesis by some, not stated in the Bible. Jethro and Reuel are the same person, right? Anyway, at least you agree with Isaac abi? That settles it. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by thesicilian: 6:56pm On Apr 28 |
LordIsaac:That is personal doctrine of the apostle, Jesus didn't say that. Besides it was specifically talking about the elders of the church, not the general congregation |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by cjudy(m): 6:59pm On Apr 28 |
Kobojunkie:How many wives did David got? If I’m correct, it’s 8 right? Did God condemned him? |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by omojeesu(m): 6:59pm On Apr 28 |
olamoses75: You know theologians You don't know the Bible |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by GanagiBitrus: 7:00pm On Apr 28 |
banks:Jesus was born into Judaism, His parents & all those around Him practised Judaism. In simple terms, Christianity originated from Judaism & there are useful lessons from God's dealings with the Jews in Old Testament. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 7:00pm On Apr 28 |
thesicilian:Jesus Christ's proclaimation that marriage was not of the Kingdom of God was not a personal doctrine but of Law in the Kingdom of God. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by JuanDeDios: 7:01pm On Apr 28 |
Image123:On Isaac, so every OT patriarch was a prophet in your book? Interesting position. Wait, so when Moses married the Cushite and Miriam started to backbite him, you believe it's Jethro's daughter they were talking about? If you say Haggar wasn't a wife, that's a very narrow definition of wife you have, which is fine. What's important is that Abraham had TWO women at the same time and had kids by them (which is what polygamous men do). He agreed to the arrangement and that did not affect his relationship with God. But what's really important is that MOST prophets were polygamous and God was find with it. Therefore, this is really just an academic debate. In the NT churches, there must have been Christians with multiple wives–and nowhere were they cast out of the church. That's why Paul had to intervene specifically in the case of leaders (bishops and deacons), saying only with men with one wife should appointed. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 7:02pm On Apr 28 |
GanagiBitrus:This is not true. None of the prophets of God followed Religion. Jesus Christ is famously known to have condemned the religion of His time beginning with the religious leaders and their doctrines and Traditions. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:02pm On Apr 28 |
God1000: Good evening brother I don't think Paul specifically stated or even implied that polygamy is unlawful in 1 Cor 7 I am a Christian and I will definitely recommend monogamy any day any time In fact,just like Paul, I will even suggest celibacy Are you trying to say that those that are in polygamous setting can never be part of Christ? Even when Paul was writing to Timothy about selecting leaders, he said those leaders must be husband of One wife. This implies that there were polygamy in the church but those men Will not be considered for leadership Lets State The Truth of the word of God as it is No need to add or remove If you know anyway in the bible where polygamy was declared sinful,kindly share with me Thanks And God bless 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 7:07pm On Apr 28 |
thesicilian: Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away. advocatejare: And I have respectfully asked all of you saying this "from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel? And thank God you said tto get a better understanding you we should start from verse 14, "When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it.." who is the "you" there? Is it a King or the people? And in line with this Law did God ever choose a king having wives? |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Barcalee: 7:10pm On Apr 28 |
Kobojunkie: Pls can you breakdown this your bruhaha because I find it difficult to see the alignment between my post and yours. I believe you're a Muslim abi? I had heard your Alfas especially Alhaji muyideen saying it's true the Quran allows a Muslim to marry more than one wife ,but,there must be equity from you to them. So tell me how you can love two women equally talkless of four. So who is the terrible one here? 1 Like |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:10pm On Apr 28 |
thesicilian: Good evening Sir All this lexical ambiguity makes no sense In that passage, Paul recommended celibacy And then One Man, one wife if you cannot practice celibacy However Paul never said polygamy was sin Its as simple as that |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by thesicilian: 7:12pm On Apr 28 |
Goodlady:Even some monogamous men don't fulfil their obligations. Our fathers had many wives and managed their homes effectively. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:15pm On Apr 28 |
oluwaseyi0: Good evening Sir I disagree 100 percent Bible is not contradictory at all Bible doesn't support anything you want Please bring it on I Am here to clear you |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by thesicilian: 7:16pm On Apr 28 |
jossymekoos:That's my point. And according to the Bible, sin is a transgression of the law. It therefore means that where there's no law against something, there's also no sin as well. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 7:17pm On Apr 28 |
jossymekoos: What else is one man one wife? If a person says you can have one piece of cake, has he not already impliedly said "you cannot have 2 or more cakes?" |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by SIRTee15: 7:17pm On Apr 28 |
cjudy: Let's go back to the beginning and learn God's original purpose for marrigae.... Genesis 2 24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh That's why Jesus said... 8[i] Jesus replied, But it was not this way from the beginning. [/i] Divorce and polygamy was never God's original plan. The way some of u will burn in hell due to your selfish and immoral desires.... U will see black and white in the bible but will start looking for shades of colour to defend your immoral and careless lifestyle. Pray U don't end up like onan. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:19pm On Apr 28 |
yewit37486: Good evening Sir I am not going to marry More than One wife but that the New testament encouraged monogamy doesn't mean that polygamy is sinful So people in polygamous marriages are condemned to eternal destruction without a way of salvation? |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by olu77(m): 7:24pm On Apr 28 |
thesicilian: We are always assuming in Africa that David, Abraham and jacob are white people but they were our ancestors. Every evidence points to the fact that christianity was repackaged and sold to us after painting all the icons in the bible white. Christianty originated from Africa and yes our ancestors starting from Adam are all polygamists...that in my opinion does not mean polygamist is good neither is it evil as we were made to believe. It just shows that we have evolved and we know better. However, I don't know any prophet in the bible that is polygamist even the Oshofa's son did not give any example |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Image123(m): 7:25pm On Apr 28 |
JuanDeDios: The thread says No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible. That is what has been proven wrong. i did not come here to tell you not to marry many wives. What is the definition of a prophet? Was Jacob a prophet? Does the Bible say when Moses married the Ethiopian? Can someone backbite about something that happened over 30years ago? i heard many people do that about our politicians. Backbiting is not limited by time. The Bible somehow forgot to call Hagar as Abraham's wife, but consistently referred to her as Sarah's maid. i am convenient with sticking with the Bible's 'narrow' definition. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:25pm On Apr 28 |
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Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:29pm On Apr 28 |
Kobojunkie: Good evening Sir Please if you can rephrase your concern for me to understand better I will like to respond sir Thanks |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by otherway: 7:30pm On Apr 28 |
Veecruz: You are a confused fellow biko stop quoting me. Was that verse referring to a MARRIED Man or men generally. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:32pm On Apr 28 |
komekn: Good evening Sir In that passage, Paul was clearly talking about one Man one wife, however he never condemned polygamy |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Apr 28 |
jossymekoos:The Prophethood instituted by the God of Israel - YHWH -- ended about 1900 years ago. So when you talk of prophets today you speak of people who have absolutely nothing to do with the Bible God and His Son, Jesus Christ. |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by olu77(m): 7:34pm On Apr 28 |
ogascomax: Don't mind the olodo business man. What does he know about bible. He is just looking for a way to justify what his father did so that he too can do thesame. Afterall bible did not say anyone that marry more than one wife will go to hell |
Re: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by jossymekoos: 7:36pm On Apr 28 |
Appletek: Calm down sir You are right But everything in the bible should be understood and practiced Right |
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