DANIEL 4:17

[Daniel 4:17 NKJV] — ‘This decision is by the decree of the watchers, And the sentence by the word of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, Gives it to whomever He will, And sets over it the lowest of men.’

[Daniel 4:17 AKJV] — "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever He will, and sets up over it the basest of men."


Does the Council of Watchers or Holy Ones in heaven have the right/authority to issue such decree and court sentence to a reigning king of kings in an entirely different kingdom that does not belong to them but to me ruling men? Do holy angels have authority to judge the living, though they have authority to judge the dead and send them either to Hell, Tartarus or to Paradise, for after death comes judgment? The Lord Jesus once asked a man that requested Him to judge the sharing of their late father's property between him and his greedy brother that wanted to take all their father's property without sharing with his younger brother: The Lord Jesus replied the complainant, saying:

[Luke 12:14] — "Mr. Man, who made Me a Judge or a Divider over you?"

Talk of Jurisdiction, was it within the Jurisdiction of the holy angels or watchers to judge and determine the political leadership and kingdom of the sons of men? The other time that Watchers involved themselves with the daughters of men and with marriages of men, those Watchers caused terrible troubles and problems both on the sons of men and on themselves that mingled their seeds with the daughters of men. Now these sets of holy Watchers are involving themselves with the kingdoms of men and making decisions over dominions, governments and politics of men.



In the top Bible verse above, the decision of the court (Council of holy Watchers) sitting in far heavens sentenced a sitting King of king and sovereign ruler of the earth realm (world) to seven years metamorphic captivity, driving him out of his throne, out of his estate, out of his being a descendant of Adam or Noah as a man, and out of his human heart, to becoming a beast among beasts.

He was not even there in the court that decided his matter and sentenced him without fair hearing/fair trial. Neither was his attorney or lawyer in the Court of Holy Watchers in the heavens, for it's not easy for a man to enter heaven even if it's to attend the sitting of his court case. The Court of Holy Watchers in heaven however sent one of them to come down and declare the decree of the Council to the King so judged. This was way different from how the International Criminal Court (ICC) sat and convicted a sitting Prime of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, of war crimes and mass murder, for his war in Gaza, and declared his arrest. Rather more like the Assembly in heaven before the Throne of God, deciding who would go to entice Ahab (then sitting king of Israel) to go and wage war against Ramoth Gilead and thereby be killed (1 Kings 22:19-23). Not talking about a sitting ruler of Iran, who after firing weapons against Israel that couldn't prosper against Israel, his own aircraft crashed and he died with his foreign minister on board.

Again in the top Bible verse above, the Holy Watcher stated there Goal of doing this as an "Example" or "Learning Reference" for all other Living people on earth (including you and I) to learn from what they have done and what happened to the greatest, strongest and most golden kingdom or king of kings then, to know that the Most High rules in the kingdoms of men, and gives it to whomever the Most High wills, and sets over them even the lowest or most humble of them.

*A* To the intent that the Living may know….: - The dead already know the judgments of God and holy angels to some degree, knowing how the Most High rules, not just in the kingdoms of men, but also in the activities of men. The Most High has always been "The LORD" and "The JUDGE" even when He's not "The King" in the kingdoms of men. In the Kingdom of God, He is "the KING" but He remains the LORD (Yahweh or Jehovah) in all kingdoms. The Living must know this, that it's not only after death comes judgment or the rule of God and heavens; but even know that "the Lord is the Judge of both the Living and the dead."

*B* The Most High is the Supreme Court or Supreme Judge over all: The way the world defines or determines jurisdiction or authority to judge and apply is different from the way the holy and higher realms define or have it. The holy and higher realms have jurisdiction and authority to judge and apply according to the Knowledge, the Will and the Mind, of the Most High. With this, even the spiritual can judge all things, even the saints can judge angels, and even the angels can judge the kingdoms of men and judge things. As you saw, the Watchers judged Nebuchadnezzar here, and took credit or ownership of doing so, because they were doing so in union with the Knowledge, the Will and the Mind of the Most High.

[I Corinthians 2:15‭-‬16 NKJV] — But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. For “who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

*C* The Most High rules in the kingdoms of men, and gives it to whomever the Most High wills, and sets over them even the lowest or most humble of them. — Whether the people voted or not, the Most High is the greatest King-Maker or technically the only King-Maker there really is, notwithstanding those parading themselves as kingmakers or political structures.

In His pre-qualification or selection of candidates, two things precide:
One is His Will: This is solely based on Him in His choices, wisdom, pleasure, counsel, knowledge and His Godhead.
Two is the Humility/Lowliness/Meekness/Submission of a candidate.

"The Most High rules in the Kingdoms of men and yet He sets over them rulers" — wouldn't this be a contradiction or paradox? I am in charge, and I put you in charge, so that I remain in charge — how can you and me (that put you there) be in charge at the same time as if two captains are in the same ship governing?

It's by you that I put there remaining so humble and lowly so that your shining light towards those under you would reveal me in charge through you and though you are in charge. You see why God the Most High that rules in the kingdoms of men can afford to put the most humble, lowest or basest of men as rulers over those kingdoms without undermining the Most High's rulings in those kingdoms.

Nebuchadnezzar as that tree grew (pride) and the tree covered the ability of the people to see the most High God because they were clouded or veiled in seeing only the most high tree as the center of the earth. Have you not seen or heard how some governor or president turned to undermine the former governor or president that put him in that office when he couldn't have been there without the former's help. Nebuchadnezzar thought he could do that to the Most High, but behold the end to his pride in power.

Nevertheless,

Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
[Romans 13:1‭-‬3 NKJV]

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