AbuTwins:
Hajj is a very important Pillar of Islam that is obligatory upon the rich and capable Muslims among us.

If you are not rich plus capable it is not obligatory for you to go!

May Allah enrich us to be able to go there with our families devoid of any government interventions!

YesDaddyTill203:


If you can't afford it, then don't go. I'm a Muslim but I don't support Governor spending public money on pilgrimage. Same way I'm against those SE Governors always using public funds for building churches and other church activities all while trying to curry favour with the church. It's all about politics.

Why should anyone spend money for another country's pilgrimage to begin with?

Let me even ask, are Africans Arabs to start with?

What's African business with Arab's Allah stone who promised a perverted brothel heaven and camel urine for delusional people following such insanity? In fact, if all you can think is the useless brothel heaven promised by an immoral dumb Arab pedophile shows how perverted and dumb you're. High time you started using the intelligence in your Ori.

I ask again, are Africans Arabs in the first place?

Yoruba have their own Ifa (a mathematical code) which is a million times better than the Arab's allah stone situated in Kabba. As a matter of fact, the basis of Yoruba's Ifa is centered on intelligence, creativity, agriculture, invention and healthcare (modern healthcare) which are the core of what Ifa represent which is civilization. Basically, Ifa which always speak in parables provide an intelligent creative idea and clues as fundamental platform while expecting the Yoruba to build on it for modern invention. That was how Yoruba's ancestors were able to come up with the fundamental basis of computer technology, Vigesimal, Beads, Iron works, several musical instruments, several creative fabrics and designs, ancient pavement roads, several food cuisines, several innovative creative inventions etc 💥✨

Why not focus on civilization, instead of championing unprofitable backward foreign things which is no business of Africans to begin with but has rather destroyed and sunk Africans into poverty mess while Saudi Arabia feed fat on the money made from pilgrimages? What have Arabs done for Africa except for enslaving, murdering, castrating Africans and even stealing African lands during the Arab slavery of Africans?

Civilization is what Africans need! Not some retrogressive backward foreign practice.

Btw, four things which Nigeria need to really focus on should be:

1. Restructuring/Regionalism.
2. Investment in Large scale mechanized farming.
3. Investment in Production Industries which include agro industrialization to link with the large scale mechanized farming.
4. Investment in basic civilization such as Electricity and other basic amenities such as good healthcare centers, education, transport amenities such as roads, cargo rails etc..

State governments shouldn't also leave everything to the President. The governors aren't elected as Barbies to do nothing with their allocations but are elected to improve the condition of their states and its economy. As a matter of fact, most of these governors fail to realize that they're bound to increase the economy of their states if they can invest in most of the above-mentioned lists.

By the way, the country need restructuring to accelerate the development of the country.

there is plenty of Africans that are Arabs... Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt are all African countries populated with majority of arabs.
regardless of what they (or other arabs) did in the past, that certainly doesnt change who they are and where they are from.

MrBrownJay1:
there is plenty of Africans that are Arabs... Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt are all African countries populated with majority of arabs.
regardless of what they (or other arabs) did in the past, that certainly doesnt change who they are and where they are from.

Egyptian were blacks as stated by ancient Greeks such as Aristotle, Plato etc. All of them were wiped out by Arabs during Arab conquest and slavery of Egypt.

Tunisia and Morocco were Tuaregs and African Berbers. Wiped out by Arab during Arab conquest and slavery of Northern Africans.

Anyways, what Africans need is civilization. Not retrogressive backward foreign practice which has done more harm to Africans by murdering them and sinking them into poverty!

Other than unreliable history books written by unreliable Caucasian Historians, there is no proof that Arabs ever enslaved Africans.

OALandAgents:
Other than unreliable history books written by unreliable Caucasian Historians, there is no proof that Arabs ever enslaved Africans.

No proof while the arts of Egyptian depicts them as blacks? While the ancient Greeks stated that the Egyptians were blacks?

Anyways , I repeat what Africans need is civilization! Not retrogressive backward foreign practice which has done more harm to Africans by murdering them and sinking them into poverty!

The original Egyptians being black does not prove that Arabs ever enslaved Africans.

Dsimmer:


No proof while the arts of Egyptian depicts them as blacks? While the ancient Greeks stated that the Egyptians were blacks?

Anyways , I repeat what Africans need is civilization! Not retrogressive backward foreign practice which has done more harm to Africans by murdering them and sinking them into poverty!

OALandAgents:
The original Egyptians being black does not prove that Arabs ever enslaved Africans.

You must be a useless dunce! Black people eradicated from their land while Arabs moved there and all what your useless self could say was this trash?

Dsimmer:
Egyptian were blacks as stated by ancient Greeks such as Aristotle, Plato etc. All of them were wiped out by Arabs during Arab conquest and slavery of Egypt.
Tunisia and Morocco were Tuaregs and African Berbers. Wiped out by Arab during Arab conquest and slavery of Northern Africans.
Anyways, what Africans need is civilization. Not retrogressive backward foreign practice which has done more harm to Africans and sunk them into poverty!

bro, Tuaregs and Berbers are NOT black... as for Egyptians, although kemets were viewed as blacks, Egyptians came in various colors and hair type etc thus why, some of the oldest paintings of Egyptians are of various colors aka black, brown (arabs) etc... the only thing we are 110% sure is that Egyptians are NOT white and are NOT Asian.

BTW Aristotle and Plato are Greek philosophers from the 400-300 BCE, while the 1st Egyptian dinasty is as far back as 3200 BCE.... although one of the earliest known Pharaoh was king Narmer/nemes (statue with black features), in that same era Egyptians painted themselves as below:

MrBrownJay1:


bro, Tuaregs and Berbers are NOT black... as for Egyptians, although kemets were viewed as blacks, Egyptians came in various colors and hair type etc thus why, some of the oldest paintings of Egyptians are of various colors aka black, brown (arabs) etc... the only thing we are 110% sure is that Egyptians are NOT white and are NOT Asian.

BTW Aristotle and Plato are Greek philosophers from the 400-300 BCE, while the 1st Egyptian dinasty is as far back as 3200 BCE.... although one of the earliest known Pharaoh was king Narmer/nemes, in that same era Egyptians were depicted as below:

Let's take Yoruba for example, considering the Yoruba are typically black people📌 The fact that Yoruba have got some fair ones among them, does that change the fact they're blacks?🤔 Point is the ancient Egyptians, including the fair ones among them didn't have the Arab color of today. They were kemet for a reason. Aristotle and Plato stated emphatically that the Egyptians were blacks! But today, have been wiped out by Arabs who now occupy the place today.

Herodotus affirmed that the Egyptians were blacks while stating that the Libyans have got tawny skins but tend to cover their bodies with feathers📌

Dsimmer:
Let's take Yoruba for example. Yoruba are typically black people. The fact that Yoruba have got some fair people, does that change the fact they're blacks? Point is the ancient Egyptians, including the fair ones among them didn't have the Arab color of today. Aristotle stated emphatically that the Egyptians were blacks! But has been Wiped out by Arabs who now occupy the place today.
Herodotus affirmed that the Egyptians were blacks while he said the Libyans have got tawny skins.

there is no such thing as "arab color of today"... the arabs of today are a combination of arabs of the past gone through more than 3000years of race mixing and invasion due to their close location with Europe/Asia etc. the arabs of the past didnt look anywhere near like some of the arabs you see today. here is a simple clue: some depicted Egyptians of the 1st dinasty do not have black features.

BTW you keep referring to Greek white philosophers while its obvious their views are irrelevant to this discussion. why do you think the views of people who lived 2000yrs after the 1st Egyptian dinasty, are more important than the +5000yr old Egyptians scriptures themselves?

is that not the same European HISTORICAL LIARS who claimed that Mathematic, Education, Philosophy, Medicine, architecture etc came from Europeans.

Firstly, it's wrong of you to abuse people's believe and denigrate individuals or supernatural forces others revere. This is always the cause of religious violence.

If you are not tolerant enough to speak respectfully of people's belief system, how do you expect them to be tolerant of your abuses.

On Ifa, you can continue worshipping your iffah and paying homage to Iffa's ancestral place or shrine while we the BELIEVERS OF ALLAH continue to worship Him and pay homage to Makkah(the House of Allah).

You can continue to follow your Iffah priests, let us follow the teaching of our respected "pedophile" MUHAMMAD in peace.

He is the best of teachers and the most noble servant of Allah to ever grace this earth.

MrBrownJay1:


there is no such thing as "arab color of today"... the arabs of today are a combination of arabs of the past gone through more than 3000years of race mixing due to their close location with Europe/asia etc. te arabs of the past didnt look anywhere near like some of the arabs you see today.
here is a simple clue: some depicted Egyptians of the 1st dinasty era are NOT black.

BTW you keep referring to Greek white philosophers while its obvious their views are irrelevant to this discussion. why do you think the views of people who lived 2000yrs after the 1st Egyptian dinasty, are more important than the +3000yr old Egyptians scriptures themselves?

is that not the same European HISTORICAL LIARS who claimed that Mathematic, Education, Philosophy, Medicine, architecture etc came from Europeans.

Nah. The Arab skin didn't undergo any changes.

They're are mix of Ishmael, Esau and Iraq. In fact, I believe Esau descendants wiped out the black people and Ishmaelite living there.

Point is it's absolutely callous for the Arab to have wiped out the Egyptians. What the hell?

As for the Europeans, while the European have got their own faults for what they also did to Africans but at least, they didn't wipe out Africans when they enslaved Africans.

As for mathematics, medicine, philosophy etc.. everyone were doing their own thing on that. Yoruba for example had their own Ifa mathematics, vigesimal etc. The Egyptians were also doing their own thing. The Greek with Euclid were doing their own thing. The Hindu with Aryabhata were also doing their thing and had their own hindu numeral mathematics which was even plagiarized by Al Kwarizmi.

This thread is full of wotowoto and vawlence promax but come to think of it, this op is right

Dsimmer:
Nah. The Arab skin didn't undergo any changes.
They're are mix of Ishmael, Esau and Iraq. In fact, I believe Esau descendants wiped out the Ishmaelite and the blacks people living there

i will never believe any of the fables that are written in the bible/quran or torah. these are all collection of spiritual writings and certainly NOT historical facts. only a very clueless person would believe that what is written in these today's religious books as historical facts. if you want to follow any historical spiritual writings, then use the oldest of them all aka the Egyptian Book of going forth by day aka The Book of the Dead, which all your religious books of today descend from.... unless of course you believe humans didnt come from evolution of apes and were instead created by some invisible god in the sky, right? lol!

Point is it's absolutely callous for the Arab to have wiped out the Egyptians. What the hell?

you are confusing invasion and/or race mixing with wiping out a race. Egyptians have always been a mixed race nation due to the location of Egypt in north Africa. 5000yrs ago, there was no Egypt, there was just a group of people living in a part of Africa, where people from around the region could come to. all these civilizations were migrating from one place to the next. look how close Egypt is from the middle east. is it so far fetched that Egypt may have been populated by a great deal of arabs? all North and South Sinai part of Egypt is in the middle east.

As for the Europeans, while the European have their fault but at least, they didn't wipe out Africans when they enslaved Africans.

so who wiped the native American Indians from this earth and/or the Aborigenes in Australia (if not Europeans)?

As for mathematics, medicine, philosophy etc.. everyone were doing their own thing on that. Yoruba for example had their own Ifa mathematics, vigesimal etc. The Egyptians were also doing their own thing. The Greek with Euclid were doing their own thing. The Hindu also had their own hindu numeral mathematics which was even plagiarized by Al Kwarizmi.

yet if you go to any mathematic class in the world, you will be told that math was discovered by Archimedes, when Sumerians (aka Africans from the Nile region) were using mathematic from as far as 3500 BCE... we are are talking about mathematics (from African scholars) that is 3000years older than when your so called Euclid was even born.

here is something very important to remember.... back in the days, MIDDLE EAST and AFRICA was connected/together as one region. look how close these two regions are. is it so impossible that Arabs emigrated to Africa (aka across tiny strip of land and water) from the get go? thus why countries in Africa close to the middle east are mixed and/or have lots of arabic features (aka Ethiopians, Somalians, Egyptians etc), just as Egypt as a well know black population known as nubians/kemet

I completely agree with you on the need for investment in basic civilization and restructuring for the development of the country. Its time to focus on progress, not outdated traditions.

Dsimmer:


Egyptian were blacks as stated by ancient Greeks such as Aristotle, Plato etc. All of them were wiped out by Arabs during Arab conquest and slavery of Egypt.

Tunisia and Morocco were Tuaregs and African Berbers. Wiped out by Arab during Arab conquest and slavery of Northern Africans.

Anyways, what Africans need is civilization. Not retrogressive backward foreign practice which has done more harm to Africans by murdering them and sinking them into poverty !

Yet we have a confused shameless tribe of people in Nigeria, claiming that they are from Israel?

OALandAgents:
The original Egyptians being black does not prove that Arabs ever enslaved Africans.

Ok, so what was The Trans-Saharan slave trade all about?

How did Islam from Arabia, become the major religion in Africa?

blacknp:
Ok, so what was The Trans-Saharan slave trade all about?

its about arab/black slave traders getting slaves from all over Africa... to sell them in other parts of Africa or Europe and the middle east etc

How did Islam from Arabia, become the major religion in Africa?

the major religion in Africa is Christianity...

Whatever


Fvck the world!

Indabello:
Firstly, it's wrong of you to abuse people's believe and denigrate individuals or supernatural forces others revere. This is always the cause of religious violence.

If you are not tolerant enough to speak respectfully of people's belief system, how do you expect them to be tolerant of your abuses.

On Ifa, you can continue worshipping your iffah and paying homage to Iffa's ancestral place or shrine while we the BELIEVERS OF ALLAH continue to worship Him and pay homage to Makkah(the House of Allah).

You can continue to follow your Iffah priests, let us follow the teaching of our respected "pedophile" MUHAMMAD in peace.

He is the best of teachers and the most noble servant of Allah to ever grace this earth.

The nerves of the gibberish written by you. When have the Europeans practising Christianity killed anyone who says Jesus didn't die and resurrected like those practising Islam have been saying? The facts that you have such murderous thought in your mind over any religion shows how stupid you're.

As a matter of fact, Arabs should be the ones apologizing to Africans and everyone at large for their murderous atrocities in Africa lands!

Let me also reiterate that, no idiot has any right to kill anyone over a religion, let alone kill any indigenous people over a foreign religion. Na craze? As a matter of fact, If any foreign god need people to fight for such foreign religion, then it is only depicting how inadequate and limited the god is in the first place. No wonder Arab's allah is a stone. I repeat, no idiot has any right to kill anyone over a religion, let alone kill any indigenous people over a foreign religion.

Btw, Ifa worship Eledumare/Olodumare. While you're knacking your head for a foreign Arab's Allah stone in delusional hope for a perverted brothel heaven and camel urine promised by the immoral pedophilic Mohammad, Ifa has been educating the Yoruba ancestors on the fact that iron (Ogun) is found in the blood and also about the DNA replication in the body at the time when no one even knew anything about such. Ifa is all about education, creativity and civilization!

Again,the stupid majority tribes and their stupid ways,brought this system upon

MrBrownJay1:


i will never believe any of the fables that are written in the bible/quran or torah. these are all collection of spiritual writings and certainly NOT historical facts. only a very clueless person would believe that what is written in these today's religious books as historical facts. if you want to follow any historical spiritual writings, then use the oldest of them all aka the Egyptian Book of going forth by day aka The Book of the Dead, which all your religious books of today descend from.... unless of course you believe humans didnt come from evolution of apes and were instead created by some invisible god in the sky, right? lol!



you are confusing invasion and/or race mixing with wiping out a race. Egyptians have always been a mixed race nation due to the location of Egypt in north Africa. 5000yrs ago, there was no Egypt, there was just a group of people living in a part of Africa, where people from around the region could come to. all these civilizations were migrating from one place to the next. look how close Egypt is from the middle east. is it so far fetched that Egypt may have been populated by a great deal of arabs? all North and South Sinai part of Egypt is in the middle east.



so who wiped the native American Indians from this earth and/or the Aborigenes in Australia (if not Europeans)?



yet if you go to any mathematic class in the world, you will be told that math was discovered by Archimedes, when Sumerians (aka Africans from the Nile region) were using mathematic from as far as 3500 BCE... we are are talking about mathematics (from African scholars) that is 3000years older than when your so called Euclid was even born.

here is something very important to remember.... back in the days, MIDDLE EAST and AFRICA was connected/together as one region. look how close these two regions are. is it so impossible that Arabs emigrated to Africa (aka across tiny strip of land and water) from the get go? thus why countries in Africa close to the middle east are mixed and/or have lots of arabic features (aka Ethiopians, Somalians, Egyptians etc).

The fact states that the ancient Egyptians who were known as kemets were blacks as depicted by their arts (nothing like Arab colour was depicted in any of their arts) and as a matter of fact, the ancient Greeks stated that the Egyptians were blacks. That put that to rest. The fact is the ancient Egyptians were wiped out by Arab criminals.

On the middle East story and all, whatever it is, all I know is Africans are different from Arabs who wiped out the Northern Africans.

On who wiped out the native Indians? The native Indians are still there. Point is if the European were on murderous spree like the Arabs, Africans wouldn't exist in Africa or in Europe today. Of course this doesn't exonerate what the Europeans did to Africans, but they were better than Arabs who murdered and castrated Africans.

On education, everyone was simply doing their own thing as I already stated.

As I previously stated, Africans aren't Arabs. Africans predates Arabs as a matter of fact!

Dsimmer:


The fact states that the ancient Egyptians were blacks as depicted by their arts (nothing like Arab colour was depicted in any of their arts) and as a matter of fact, the ancient Greeks stated that the Egyptians were blacks. That put that to rest. The fact is the ancient Egyptians were wiped out by Arab criminals.

On the middle East story and all, whatever it is, all I know is Africans are different from Arabs who wiped out the Northern Africans.

On who wiped out the native Indians? The native Indians are still there. Point is if the European were on murderous spree like the Arabs, Africans wouldn't exist in Africa or in Europe today. Of course this doesn't exonerate what the Europeans did to Africans, but they were better than Arabs who murdered and castrated Africans.

On education, everyone was simply doing their own thing as I already stated.

As I previously stated, Africans aren't Arabs. Africans predates Arabs as a matter of fact!

This narrative that mere Arabs wiped out blacks and Arabs castrated blacks is a demeaning narrative, that does more damage to Africans than help.

It portrays Africa's as sitting duck weakling and victims that anyone can trample on.

Africans were never wiped out by Arabs,even if Egyptians were black they weren't subsaharan Africans or blacks.

Arabs never enslaved blacks, blacks sold their kind to anyone willing to buy Arab or European.

No one can wipe out subsaharan blacks.

Dsimmer:
The facts state that the Egyptians are blacks as depicted by their arts (nothing like Arab colour was depicted in any of their arts) and as a matter of fact, the ancient Greeks stated that the Egyptians are blacks. That put that to rest. The fact is the Arab criminals simply destroyed the ancient Egyptians.

On the middle East story and all, whatever it is, all I know is Africans are different from Arabs who wiped out the Northern Africans.

On who wiped out the native Indians? The native Indians are still there. Point is if the European were on murderous spree like the Arabs, Africans wouldn't exist in Africa or in Europe today. Of course this doesn't exonerate what the Europeans did to Africans, but they were better than Arabs who murdered and castrated Africans.

On education, everyone was doing their thing as I already stated.

As I previously stated, Africans aren't Arabs. Africans predates Arab as a matter of fact!

A) the views of Greeks philosophers (that were born only 2000yrs after the Egyptians 1st dinasty) are irrelevant to this subjects.
B) if you claim that native Americans were not wiped by Europeans... when we know that there was up to 112m of them before Europeans landed in America, but now there are just 5m left at best, then you are not honest with the truth.
C) you do know that you can be a black arab, right? arab is not a race, its a culture etc, but not a race.
D) what are these "arab colors" that you are talking about..? are the people in the pic below not Africans (aka black arabs OR arabs with dark skinned)?

babasolution:


This narrative that mere Arabs wiped out blacks and Arabs castrated blacks is a demeaning narrative, that does more damage to Africans than help.

It portrays Africa's as sitting duck weakling and victims that anyone can trample on.

Africans were never wiped out by Arabs,even if Egyptians were black they weren't subsaharan Africans or blacks.

Arabs never enslaved blacks, blacks sold their kind to anyone willing to buy Arab or European.

No one can wipe out subsaharan blacks.

I simply stated the fact! Most Africans were concerned about mundane backward things, instead of modern civilization. Same thing still happening till today.

Take for example, warfare instruments such as gun etc were being mentioned as one of Ogun's warfare in Ifa, did any Yoruba bother much about it to Invent it to defend against the useless terrorists back then? No. Of course Yoruba ancestors did try a lot with several creative inventions they made but at some point, most stopped creating much which I would say was as a result of Islam which was already creeping in at that time because we all know Islam is against innovation and creativity yet same Arabs uses the innovative creative inventions made by the whites to wreck havoc on others over their backward religion. The nerves!

Anyways, what Africans need is creativity and civilization! Not backward mundane practice of some foreigners.

WhateverFvck the world!

First of Allah is not an Arab God. The Quraysh (old Arabs) worshiped over 300 deities and Allah was not one of them.

Allah means creator God. The Quraysh (Old Arabs) did not have a creator God; they carved all their deities by hand. Their most supreme deity was Hubal. The deity that has the closest name to Allah was a goddess called Al-lat.

Allah was introduced to the Quraysh and Arabs by Muhammed in the 5th/6th century. Allah was a new God to the Quraysh and Arabs then; that was why they resisted and fought Muhammed for the new God, because it disrupted their trades, incomes and beliefs.

When I carried out some research, I discovered that there is some similarities between Eledumare/ Oba Aseda with Allah/Yahweh. They’re both identified as creator Gods.

Ifa believed there was a creator so did Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed believe there is a creator God. What differs is the names each race/tribe calls this creator God; but they all accept that there is a creator God.

MrBrownJay1:
there is plenty of Africans that are Arabs... Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt are all African countries populated with majority of arabs.
regardless of what they (or other arabs) did in the past, that certainly doesnt change who they are and where they are from.

Moroccans are not Arabs. They're Berbers. They look alike, but they're different.

Brenbentondiaz:
Moroccans are not Arabs. They're Berbers. They look alike, but they're different.

what are you talking about? do you know that being arab is not a RACE? whether Berbers or Tuaregs, these are all arabs.

MrBrownJay1:


what are you talking about? do you know that being arab is not a RACE? whether Berbers or Tuaregs, these are all arabs.

A person called Arab is someone that traces his root to Arabia. Berbers, Tuaregs are not Arabs.

The ultimate goal of education is knowledge and character and you lack both. This tells us about your person and the type of education you have acquired.

This is evident in the skewed version of history you have been dishing out to your gullible audience since .
Go read the works of Inikori and Walter Rodney and come back here to tell the world between Europe and Arab who turned Africans more into an endangered species.

As for when Europeans killed for those who said Jesus was not Lord; again, if only you had the right education, you would have learned from the works of notable African historians the number of Africans killed to have Christianity entrenched here( the sword and the gospel preaching did the magic). Even the works of notable novelists of African origin like Achebe and Ngugi Wan Thiongo is replete with such narations.
Always try get your background facts right before coming to display your ignorance in the public space.

As for killing in the name of Allah, if and only if you know Islam well will you understand that what these our northern brothers do is contrary to Islamic preaching and a matter of Jungle justice as we experience often across different parts of the country.

In as much as blasphemy is a sin in Islam, only the appropriate authorities are vested with the right to investigate and sanction those guilty of it.
This is not peculiar to Islam as blasphemy is a purnishable offence in all major religions of the world including Christianity which you earlier referenced.
Here are some Biblical verses related to blasphemy:

1. Leviticus 24:16 - "Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death."
2. Matthew 12:31-32 - "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
3. Mark 3:28-30 - "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin—for they were saying, 'He has an unclean spirit.'"
4. Luke 12:10 - "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."
5. 1 Timothy 1:20 - "Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme."

I need not remind you that your iffah often request for human sacrifices to appease it's anger and those that desecrated the shrine of Iffah are often offered as sacrifices to the gods.

Again, your failure to grasp this simple reality of blasphemy across major religions of the world shows the shallowness of your knowledge. When you add this to the fact that you are destitute of character, it becomes abundant clear that you are not a person with culture and education.

Finally, please continue to worship your ifah in peace while we worship our ALLAH in peace. Continue to follow your iffah priests while we follow our "pedophile" Muhammad in peace.

P.S. if you are not tolerant enough to speak respectfully of others belief system, how do you expect them to be tolerant of your abuses.

I will not dignify you with any response again because you have shown that you are not a person of culture and character.

Dsimmer:


The nerves of the gibberish written by you. When have the Europeans practising Christianity killed anyone who says Jesus didn't die and resurrected like those practising Islam have been saying? The facts that you have such murderous thought in your mind over any religion shows how stupid you're.

As a matter of fact, Arabs should be the ones apologizing to Africans and everyone at large for their murderous atrocities in Africa lands!

Let me also reiterate that, no idiot has any right to kill anyone over a religion, let alone kill any indigenous people over a foreign religion. Na craze? As a matter of fact, If any foreign god need people to fight for such foreign religion, then it is only depicting how inadequate and limited the god is in the first place. No wonder Arab's allah is a stone. I repeat, no idiot has any right to kill anyone over a religion, let alone kill any indigenous people over a foreign religion.

Btw, Ifa worship Eledumare. While you're knacking your head for a foreign Arab's Allah stone in delusional hope for a perverted brothel heaven and camel urine promised by the immoral pedophilic Mohammad, Ifa has been educating the Yoruba ancestors on the fact that iron (Ogun) is found in the blood and also about the DNA replication in the body at the time when no one even knew anything about such. Ifa is all about education, creativity and civilization!

Indabello:
The ultimate goal of education is knowledge and character and you lack both. This tells us about your person and the type of education you have acquired.

This is evident in the skewed version of history you have been dishing out to your gullible audience since .
Go read the works of Inikori and Walter Rodney and come back here to tell the world between Europe and Arab who turned Africans more into an endangered species.

As for when Europeans killed for those who said Jesus was not Lord; again, if only you had the right education, you would have learned from the works of notable African historians the number of Africans killed to have Christianity entrenched here( the sword and the gospel preaching did the magic). Even the works of notable novelists of African origin like Achebe and Ngugi Wan Thiongo is replete with such narations.
Always try get your background facts right before coming to display your ignorance in the public space.

As for killing in the name of Allah, if and only if you know Islam well will you understand that what these our northern brothers do is contrary to Islamic preaching and a matter of Jungle justice as we experience often across different parts of the country.

In as much as blasphemy is a sin in Islam, only the appropriate authorities are vested with the right to investigate and sanction those guilty of it.
This is not peculiar to Islam as blasphemy is a purnishable offence in all major religions of the world including Christianity which you earlier referenced.
Here are some Biblical verses related to blasphemy:

1. Leviticus 24:16 - "Whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him. The sojourner as well as the native, when he blasphemes the Name, shall be put to death."
2. Matthew 12:31-32 - "Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."
3. Mark 3:28-30 - "Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin—for they were saying, 'He has an unclean spirit.'"
4. Luke 12:10 - "And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."
5. 1 Timothy 1:20 - "Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme."

I need not remind you that your iffah often request for human sacrifices to appease it's anger and those that desecrated the shrine of Iffah are often offered as sacrifices to the gods.

Again, your failure to grasp this simple reality of blasphemy across major religions of the world shows the shallowness of your knowledge. When you add this to the fact that you are destitute of character, it becomes abundant clear that you are not a person with culture and education.

Finally, please continue to worship your ifah in peace while we worship our ALLAH in peace. Continue to follow your iffah priests while we follow our "pedophile" Muhammad in peace.

P.S. if you are not tolerant enough to speak respectfully of others belief system, how do you expect them to be tolerant of your abuses.

I will not dignify you with any response again because you have shown that you are not a person of culture and character.

Ifa doesn’t request human sacrifice. I used to think what was displayed in Yoruba movies were true until I watched an interview of Peter Fatomilola an actor and Ifa practitioner where he explained what Ifa truly entails and that it doesn’t require you to worship any deity or gods.

Ifa according to him is knowledge and not a deity.