AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

Sometimes I wonder if some of you are wired differently with short reasoning. I can't even start arguing with your coconut head. Just imagine what you wrote.

Khyrvxjzy:
Peter obi will never be president

Good thing you are always wrong, otherwise you'd have a job

elrufiason:

Dear amiableMosquito your comment is laced with wisdom, but did you ever stop to consider that their allocation is bigger that 5, 6, 7 to 10 states combined.
I fact why does custom has a much higher allocation than the police and army?

No customs doesn't have much allocation than army. Go and check how much is defence budget.

AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

why can’t states have a direct access/collect their revenue themselves

They looted the huge bulk

Why can’t states collect revenue themselves

AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

If we all see things this way, then the senators and the executives merit their take home. In fact, the jumbo allowances in NCC, CBN, NNPC etc is justified .

elrufiason:

Dear amiableMosquito your comment is laced with wisdom, but did you ever stop to consider that their allocation is bigger that 5, 6, 7 to 10 states combined.
I fact why does custom has a much higher allocation than the police and army?

Thank you for constructive feedback @Elrufiason.

The answer is simple. Let me start by asking "why does Delta State receive almost 5 times the monthly allocation of Osun State?"
Why does Lagos State receive higher allocations
than Zamfara State?

The answer is obvious, right?! Without trying to downplay or undermine the crucial role of the police force and the armed forces, but how much do these security agencies contribute to the national treasury vis-a-vis the Nigeria Customs Service?

If you don't properly incentivize the staff of these mega revenue general agencies, there will be less motivation to meet revenue targets and infact, corruption will become more justified. Of course, there are still a lot of corrupt officers in Customs and FIRS but at least, they are sensible enough to ensure that their revenues do not decline (instead it has increased significantly) over the years. Now, imagine if they were not adequately remunerated.

There are too many bureaucratic bottlenecks in public service. Keeping a percentage of revenue collected means that these agencies have funds readily available to take care of the welfare of its staff, and also upgrade existing infrastructures that will aid in meeting up to their mandate and set targets without all the delays usually associated with obtaining approvals in the public service system.

Instead of sponsoring media attacks on these elite GOEs, the State governors should go back and think of how to maximise the potential of their states. In the 70s, the North contributed more to the Federal Government purse than every other geopolitical zone through agriculture and commerce alone. Why is everyone now lazy and depending on oil revenue, VAT and other taxes alone? Then further vilifying the agencies that are religiously working to bring the funds that they come to Abuja to share monthly.

It's instructive to note there are other agencies that generate huge revenues like NCC, NMDPRA, NIMASA, NPA and NDIC. They all keep 4% or higher. It's the law guiding their creation and in turn, government has no business funding them. So they are an asset to the government and not a liability.

NIPOST is also a revenue generating agency that should have been in the league of these elite agencies but there's a reason why it never reached it's full potential. Same with NTA. Go and find out why.

uncleck:
If only 10% of Nigeria's fund could be effectively utilized, Nigeria would have moved forward. That is why I'm a strong advocate of regionalism. In regionalism, there are fewer politicians (thieves) at the same time. Let me explain. In this current political structure, at the federal level there is the president, vice, ministers, senators, reps and thousands of SAs and SSAs. Same is applicable at the 36 states and different local Governments. In the end you see that we have millions of thieves at the same time. These thieves consume as much as 99% of our resources.

If we have only 6 regions (states) with resource control, there will be fewer politicians and competitions... In the end the masses might benefit from about 10% of the resources... This is just remedial solution though.

The ultimate solution is to collapse Africa into one state with one army, one currency, one passport, one dialling code, one market and one flag.

You are sounding like one of the sophisticated “wise people” from a particular region.
You just contradicted yourself with your last paragraph.
You support regionalism in Nigeria yet the ultimate solution is to merge the whole of Africa (including the regions) into one nation. Bala…😆

Beautifulday:


The agency should be audited to know what they use such huge amount for. Outside payment of salary and operational cost, what do they use such money for. What is their population?

Aren't these sort of discussions to be had internal and not brought to social media?

If there is a scandal discovered then such can be exposed. It doesn't make sense all these media sensationalism as it never achieved anything.

This explains why customs increase duties at will. It’s a win for them.

Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/how-firs-customs-nuprc-received-more-allocation-than-states-report/

na wa oh.

But what do this agency need this huge amount of money for?

Cc: naptu2 🙏

AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

The only thing I think about the report is, the reliance on tax as a source of revenue generation is too high in comparison to the rate at which productivity and industrialization are doing

andy244:

You see how small your brain is. Beacause they are tax collectors so the nations wealth should be willed to them abi? What oversight functions do these 3 have. Im sure you know they do not even pay their own salaries. So what the hell is the huge budget for? Owo da formations oo

Thank you for exposing who has the miniature brain brain between yourself and I.
I don't even know where or how to start educating you. I'll just let you pass. You are irrelevant walahi

AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

Is it that you can see corruption or you choose to ignore it?
You give multi billions to a federal agency and you can't see corruption playing out.
Again, how is the federal government better than the lazy state governors?

Elusive001:



What smooth operations are you talking about! We're they not established to make money for the good of the masses? The money they generate ought to be for the good of the masses. Why do you guys behave like this. Please tell me what they do with these billions.

I have addressed your concerns in one of my responses. Cheers!

Beautifulday:


Do you even know what you are talking about? What is the population of FIRS compared to state?

You don't know allocation is for the entire population of a state?

Did anyone ask the state governors not to be productive and proactive in terms of IGR? Must they depend on the GOEs for survival? You are part of the problem with this type of mentality.

Islie:


https://dailytrust.com/how-firs-customs-nuprc-received-more-allocation-than-states-report/

Before you post nonsense next time be informed that FIRS provide 90% of the entire country budgeted funds for both federal, states and LGs, their staff strength is more than most of the states, offices all over the country in some state more than 30 offices, they pay there salaries, build buildings, pay rent, buy diesel etc what are the states doing if not pocketing funds.

DaddyUgonna:
Sometimes I wonder if some of you are wired differently with short reasoning. I can't even start arguing with your coconut head. Just imagine what you wrote.

Your father at home is a coconut head, that's why he produced dullards like yourself. Can't fault you for been unable to understand my post. It's beyond your intellectual capacity. Pele

Itzlinda:


No customs doesn't have much allocation than army. Go and check how much is defence budget.

God bless you. In addition, what does the Army, Navy and Airforce contribute to the national treasury other than embezzle funds and perpetuate insecurity to their selfish advantage?

People who work hard, get a cost of collection because they're actually collecting something, while those whon sit down and do nothing are complaining of collecting less.

A typical case of the Nigerian mentality. Just like a woman expecting to be well rewarded by a man who works hard, just because she offers sex that they both enjoy.

Ttipsy:
why can’t states have a direct access/collect their revenue themselves

That's another conversation entirely. And I absolutely support the idea of resource control. It will make every state to sit up.

ttobizz:


If we all see things this way, then the senators and the executives merit their take home. In fact, the jumbo allowances in NCC, CBN, NNPC etc is justified .

Yes, the latter are justified. But what does the former contribute to the national treasury?

AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

Sorry sir, no agency or department of the federation can absolve itself of national expenses or remitting income !

Whatever revenue they accrue should not be expanded by them arbitrarily or they have sole administration of it! Government machineries work hand in hand to produce and there's no monopoly of revenue generation! DSS protects the borders too and nuprc relies on navy for protection of the sea and oil infrastructures, it's a web of dependency and handshake!

Am aware they quote virements fine! But and they share these monies indiscriminately amongst their selves! This is corruption !!

Reason why ppl jostle to be in this rich agency and bribery in their recruitment process is rife!
They are to be regulated, monitored and every penny return to national coffers and not reserve or embezzle under any guise

Boyooosa:


The only thing I think about the report is, the reliance on tax as a source of revenue generation is too high in comparison to the rate at which productivity and industrialization are doing

Well, if you look at it from this perspective, it makes sense. However, I do not think that is what this report was hoping to achieve.

tctrills:

Is it that you can see corruption or you choose to ignore it?
You give multi billions to a federal agency and you can't see corruption playing out.
Again, how is the federal government better than the lazy state governors?

What is corrupt in adhering to the law guiding you? Most of these RGAs are permitted by law to keep 4% of their total revenues. This encourages them to go all out to increase the drive, because a lower revenue means a lower 4%.

You sincerely expect NUPRC staff to be earning same as National Arts and Gallery staff? You lots are deluded. You hate to see any rich public servant. It must be tagged corruption.

Vulcan24:


Sorry sir, no agency or department of the federation can absolve itself of national expenses or remitting income !

Whatever revenue they accrue should not be expanded by them arbitrarily or they have sole administration of it! Government machineries work hand in hand to produce and there's no monopoly of revenue generation! DSS protects the borders too and nuprc relies on navy for protection of the sea and oil infrastructures, it's a web of dependency and handshake!

Am aware they quote virements fine! But and they share these monies indiscriminately amongst their selves! This is corruption !!

Reason why ppl jostle to be in this rich agency and bribery in their recruitment process is rife!
They are to be regulated, monitored and every penny return to national coffers and not reserve or embezzle under any guise

I love your submission albeit flawed.
The news article has achieved its aim of vilifying these RGAs. The reality however is that they keep only 4% of the total generated with exception of NCS that keeps 7% because of its staff strength. These percentages look huge (maybe they actually are) because what they generate is also huge and it's what the entire federation depends on.

Without these revenues, there will be no money to pay the DSS and Navy you mentioned. Go and read about NIPOST, NTA and few other revenue generating agencies that are doing very poorly in terms of revenue generation. Find out why they are almost comatose and then you will understand why it is important to allow these GOEs retain a small percentage of their revenue collection. The corruption you are shouting will be worse if you poorly remunerate these workers of the elite RGAs.

You sincerely expect FIRS staff and National Orientation Agency staff to be on the same salary structure? That's a joke!

Can you mention the States that these federal agencies generate more revenue than, I wanna see something.

AmiableMosquito:
I don't understand what this news article aims to achieve. These are productive revenue generating agencies of government that brings the bulk of the money that the lazy and unproductive state governors come to share in Abuja monthly and which they subsequently loot and plunder to the detriment of the citizens.

If these agencies meet and even sometimes surpass their targets, there is nothing wrong in taking a cost of collection for smooth operations. Afterall, these agencies are self-funded and do not rely on the national treasury to pay their staff. If not for these league of GOEs, a majority of other government agencies are more of liabilities than assets, with many of them not carrying out their core mandate because they are either too clueless or constrained to do so.

immortalcrown:
😂

The closer you are, the bigger your share. That's how they run the affairs. Distribution of resources is never based on equity. For instance, check the budget for educational and health sectors.

Do you actually know how much FIRS and Customs earn for the country Apparently not !

SonofElElyonRet:
Do you actually know how much FIRS and Customs earn for the country Apparently not !

You are not logical here. How much they generate should not determine how much they get.

How many new workers do they employ yearly? How many vehicles do they replace yearly and why? These, for example, are what determine how much they should get as allocation. They collected more than many states put together, and you are here talking nonsense.

nesphil:
Can you mention the States that these federal agencies generate more revenue than, I wanna see something.

I know where you are going, brother

AmiableMosquito:
What is corrupt in adhering to the law guiding you? Most of these RGAs are permitted by law to keep 4% of their total revenues. This encourages them to go all out to increase the drive, because a lower revenue means a lower 4%.

You sincerely expect NUPRC staff to be earning same as National Arts and Gallery staff? You lots are deluded. You hate to see any rich public servant. It must be tagged corruption.

People like you make me laugh. Rich public servants? How does that even sound in your ears.
Oga if you are talking about encouraging public servants you should be talking about teachers, nurses and doctors not some unskilled labour tax collectors and definitely not a mega corrupt organization.

andy244:

You see how small your brain is. Beacause they are tax collectors so the nations wealth should be willed to them abi? What oversight functions do these 3 have. Im sure you know they do not even pay their own salaries. So what the hell is the huge budget for? Owo da formations oo

Chaii Nairaland una no go kee person. I don hear another one today
OWO DA FORMATIONS.

I as I laughed out loud like I am high on Canadian laud.