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Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by Gerhards: 11:07pm On Jun 18, 2024
blacknp:
Charity they say begins @ home, pity yourself disgruntled Obidient, no Aso Rock for you till at least 2039. grin.






Yoruba christian i pity most
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by blacknp(m): 11:16pm On Jun 18, 2024
Gerhards:







Yoruba christian i pity most
Pity yourself & fellow Agbadorian Muslim Obidients first & foremost I.e Aisha Yusuf, only Hypocrites cry more than the bereaved.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by PropertyBanker(f): 12:03am On Jun 19, 2024
grin🤔
tnerro1:
This Rivers mata no go kee person, the more you look , the less you see😁
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by Marsh24: 1:15am On Jun 19, 2024
What manner of man is Wike? This man too like wahala
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by TrainPark: 4:16am On Jun 19, 2024
Risingblue008:
Only peter obi can change the political atmosphere of the nigerian politics

Well,its karma fighting wike himself,
Had it been these guy gave us the rightful winner in d past presidntl election
,suffering and hunger,violence will reduce
Even sim will like in hes mind,na wike bring these suffering come self cos he helped tinibu rigged PH

Correction:
Peter Obi is one among the people that have potential to change......

He is not the only one!
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by Zubeezanga(m): 4:27am On Jun 19, 2024
TechBaron:
Politics doesn't work like that man.

APC needs Rivers state for 2027, and they don't mind Wike fighting like a lunatic with Fubara to ensure they secure the votes of Rivers state come 2027.

Also, don't forget, Wike losing a grip over Rivers State is APC losing grip over a major Cash-cow (funding) for their 2027 re-election bid.
Ur head dy their, same thing happening in kano, they need votes for 2027 so gandoki n wike's job is to seize power on the low and have the state in their grasp since the incumbent governors have rebelled and have refused godfather loyalty, lol them dy 2024 d map out 2027 elections samankwe lol.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 7:21am On Jun 19, 2024
TechBaron:
Politics doesn't work like that man.

APC needs Rivers state for 2027, and they don't mind Wike fighting like a lunatic with Fubara to ensure they secure the votes of Rivers state come 2027.

Also, don't forget, Wike losing a grip over Rivers State is APC losing grip over a major Cash-cow (funding) for their 2027 re-election bid.
So everything is all about politics and not the wellbeing of the good people of the state? This is just first year and you people have started thinking of the next election and not how to better the lives of the people. Please who do us this?

I think by now, the success of the governor he claimed he installed should matter to him but not, he's only chasing shadows and political relevance and not how things will work for the good of the citizens in Rivers.

This attitude of prioritizing politics above governance is what had put us in this sorry state we are in today. Wike is the most greedy man I had ever seen on earth. And what he will not take is what he dishes out to people. We know how he was ruthless to capture Rivers state, by using all the macenery of the state against Amaechi but today as the saying goes, igba ko lo bi orere, times doesn't last long, the tide must surely changed. His own tide has changed but he doesn't know but fighting nature. And who can fight nature and not be bruised?

A reasonable person or politician should think of the citizens and how the dividends of democracy will flow to them but the reverse is the case for Wike, as he want to be a godfather at all costs, forgetting that some region don't tolerate godfatherism.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 7:26am On Jun 19, 2024
blacknp:
Ignorance is a curse, the state Governor has no business with the local government.

It is the state house of assembly that has the powers that govern the local government.

Read by themselves to study, they will never do. for others to presume and tell them, is what they prefer.
By the constitution of Nigeria, the state governor is financially attached to the LGAs and that is why till date they are still yarning for Local Government autonomy.
The assembly have no right to extend the tenure of the chairmen because altering the tenure of the chairmen means going against the constitution of Nigeria. The law they made was against the Nigerian constitution of three years single tenure for the chairmen. We live in a constitutional country and not a banana republic.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 7:30am On Jun 19, 2024
BondRiv:
What a clown. This one is still deceiving himself as an APC member. People who have sold their soul. Which part of the constitution provides for caretaker chairmen? Hungry thing. These are the elements causing problems for the judiciary. The NBA needs to start punishing these quacks.
Mr. Man, does two wrongs make a right. Extension of the chairmen tenure is against the Nigerian constitution, so it was wrong for the house to have extended their time in office, instead of prevailing on the governor to conduct election.
Thankfully he didn't chose caretakers, he asked the head of admin of each local government to take control. So he has not gone against the constitution the way the house did. Meaning he is still more democratic that the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers that went above board to go against the constitution.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by BondRiv: 8:51am On Jun 19, 2024
Miyachi:

grin
For your information, I've read the Nigerian over and over, I had that much time when I was younger.

Please quote your source. It's is available online. Show me which schedule it says that the state legislators are to govern the local governments.

It actually sounds unintelligent to say that the legislature is meant to govern. Stop doubling down on something you know is wrong because you want to look bright.

Just say I should teach you. You have read the constitution as many times as you claim and yet you don't know the relevant sections. Read section 7. You keep using the word "govern" like some mysterious thing. We have three branches of government. Of course, the primary function of the legislature is lawmaking, while the executive implements, with the judiciary interpreting. They are all part of governance and presiding over the affairs of the country.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by BondRiv: 9:00am On Jun 19, 2024
IfnobeGod20:

Mr. Man, does two wrongs make a right. Extension of the chairmen tenure is against the Nigerian constitution, so it was wrong for the house to have extended their time in office, instead of prevailing on the governor to conduct election.
Thankfully he didn't chose caretakers, he asked the head of admin of each local government to take control. So he has not gone against the constitution the way the house did. Meaning he is still more democratic that the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers that went above board to go against the constitution.

Naive fellow. What do you call this? ⬇️

https://www.nairaland.com/8129029/rivers-pro-fubara-lawmakers-screen-lg
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by TechBaron: 10:22am On Jun 19, 2024
IfnobeGod20:

So everything is all about politics and not the wellbeing of the good people of the state? This is just first year and you people have started thinking of the next election and not how to better the lives of the people. Please who do us this?

I think by now, the success of the governor he claimed he installed should matter to him but not, he's only chasing shadows and political relevance and not how things will work for the good of the citizens in Rivers.

This attitude of prioritizing politics above governance is what had put us in this sorry state we are in today. Wike is the most greedy man I had ever seen on earth. And what he will not take is what he dishes out to people. We know how he was ruthless to capture Rivers state, by using all the macenery of the state against Amaechi but today as the saying goes, igba ko lo bi orere, times doesn't last long, the tide must surely changed. His own tide has changed but he doesn't know but fighting nature. And who can fight nature and not be bruised?

A reasonable person or politician should think of the citizens and how the dividends of democracy will flow to them but the reverse is the case for Wike, as he want to be a godfather at all costs, forgetting that some region don't tolerate godfatherism.
My brother, I am not a politician ooooo.

None of my family member is a politician.

I have never benefitted from any political party before.

I worked as an adhoc staff for INEC in 2011. Till date, they haven't paid me.

So the country is even owing me.

I just stated the obvious.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by ufuosman(m): 10:32am On Jun 19, 2024
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Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by blacknp(m): 11:52am On Jun 19, 2024
IfnobeGod20:

By the constitution of Nigeria, the state governor is financially attached to the LGAs and that is why till date they are still yarning for Local Government autonomy.
The assembly have no right to extend the tenure of the chairmen because altering the tenure of the chairmen means going against the constitution of Nigeria. The law they made was against the Nigerian constitution of three years single tenure for the chairmen. We live in a constitutional country and not a banana republic.
Elected local government officials is guaranteed in accordance with the provisions of the Nigeria constitution, Please point out to me which section in your constitution of 1999 as Amended that gives a governor the right to appoint local government officials?

Ignorance is never an excuse in law, you claim the assembly has no jurisdiction to extend the tenure of elected local government officials pursuant to the provisions of the constitution, neither does the governor have the jurisdiction to appoint anyone also.

I leave you in your stew of ignorance.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 3:23pm On Jun 19, 2024
BondRiv:


Go and read the constitution. The state legislature has a role to play. However, I agree with you that governors have destroyed the local government system, thereby impeding the progress of Nigeria.
Let me go elementary here.
Both the State House Assembly and the Governor have oversight functions on the Local Government Administration by the constitution, just as the National Assembly have oversight functions on the State House Assembly.

The oversight function of the State House Assembly does not include extension of the tenure of the Local Government Chairmen, just as the National Assembly cannot extend the tenure of the State House Assembly or that of the governor.

The National Assembly oversight comes in force when the State House Assembly could not perform its functions as it ought to be, then they take control of the State House Assembly till all contending issues resolved, just the same way the State House Assembly take control of the legislative arm of the Local Government until all contending issues are resolved but both cannot extend their tenure, as State House Assembly tenure is 4 years single term, the same way the National Assembly while the tenure of the Local Government Chairmen and the Counsellors as stipulated in the constitution is 3 years. Any attempt to alter their tenure lifespan, it would go against the Nigerian constitution.
Hence, extension of the tenure of the chairmen by the state house of assembly by additional 6 months is against the constitution of Nigeria and by the reason of the inconsistency the law is null and void and that was why the state high court nullified the section introduced by the lawmakers.

On the issue of the oversight functions of the governor on the administration of the Local Government Areas.
1. Both are sharing same consolidated account through the federal government.
2. The state governor have the oversight function to conduct election into chairman and counselors posts through the SIEC.
Until these above two critical functions are taken away from the governor purview before the Local Government Areas can truly be third tier of government, as the constitution says.
That's why people are clamoring for the autonomy of the LGAs and this can only be done by tinkering on the constitution by removing all these key functions from the governor's purview.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 3:38pm On Jun 19, 2024
blacknp:
Elected local government officials is guaranteed in accordance with the provisions of the Nigeria constitution, Please point out to me which section in your constitution of 1999 as Amended that gives a governor the right to appoint local government officials?

Ignorance is never an excuse in law, you claim the assembly has no jurisdiction to extend the tenure of elected local government officials pursuant to the provisions of the constitution, neither does the governor have the jurisdiction to appoint anyone also.

I leave you in your stew of ignorance.
Mr. Man, stop been emotional in this issue. As it were the Local Government does not enjoy any autonomy. Some of their functions are still attached to the state governor. For example, the state governor still conduct election into the chairmanship and counsellorship positions of the local government. Both the State and the local government share same consolidated account till date.
There is no where I have ever gave life to choosing of caretaker chairman to man the LGA by the governor. Or you wish to put out where I said so please? This your emotional comment defeats common comprehension.
Just I had said, the State House of Assembly cannot and doesn't have the power to extend the tenure of the chairman even for one day because in doing so, it has defeated the constitutional tenure of three years stipulated by the constitution. As it is well known, any law not consistent with the constitution, the constitution takes superiority over the said inconsistent law. That's just the simple law that every learned persons should know and not only lawyers.

What the lawmakers should have done, they should have prevailed over the governor to conduct election, instead of going against the constitution of the nation by their shenanigans. Two wrongs doesn't make a right.

However, for now, the governor have not gone against the law because he didn't appoint caretaker to man the LGA but instead asked the head of local government administration to take charge. Yes, it is wrong for the governor to appoint caretaker chairmen and it was also wrong to extend their tenure.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 3:44pm On Jun 19, 2024
TechBaron:
My brother, I am not a politician ooooo.

None of my family member is a politician.

I have never benefitted from any political party before.

I worked as an adhoc staff for INEC in 2011. Till date, they haven't paid me.

So the country is even owing me.

I just stated the obvious.
The obvious you stated truly is the mindset of many politicians but it's awkward to say the least. They relegate governance on the altar of politics.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 3:53pm On Jun 19, 2024
BondRiv:


Naive fellow. What do you call this? ⬇️

https://www.nairaland.com/8129029/rivers-pro-fubara-lawmakers-screen-lg
This is a new development, stop been emotional. As at Monday he directed the head of admin to take charge.
Choosing of caretaker committee is against the constitution but that does not justify tenure elongation the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers did because two wrongs doesn't make a right. They should have prevailed on the governor to conduct election instead of running foul of the law too. The alteration is just a jamboree.

Until the needful is done by the national and state assemblies by truly giving the third tier of government full autonomy, the governor will always have their way. Remove their powers to conduct election into the chairmanship and counsellorship positions and that will solve a whole lot of problems.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by BondRiv: 4:36pm On Jun 19, 2024
IfnobeGod20:

This is a new development, stop been emotional. As at Monday he directed the head of admin to take charge.
Choosing of caretaker committee is against the constitution but that does not justify tenure elongation the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers did because two wrongs doesn't make a right. They should have prevailed on the governor to conduct election instead of running foul of the law too. The alteration is just a jamboree.

Until the needful is done by the national and state assemblies by truly giving the third tier of government full autonomy, the governor will always have their way. Remove their powers to conduct election into the chairmanship and counsellorship positions and that will solve a whole lot of problems.

Hence why I used the term naive. When you see me making political analysis, just step back and learn. It's not new to people like me who saw it coming and knew this was the ultimate destination. In fact, anyone with a considerable understanding of Nigerian politics would have known this.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 8:04pm On Jun 19, 2024
BondRiv:


Hence why I used the term naive. When you see me making political analysis, just step back and learn. It's not new to people like me who saw it coming and knew this was the ultimate destination. In fact, anyone with a considerable understanding of Nigerian politics would have known this.
Please what do you know? You know how many times I had corrected you on this forum? You think making baseless comments is what entails good judgement. I had said it umpteenth times that using CTCs to administer LGAs is unconstitutional and I will continue to say that till our laws changed to recognize such but that would not justify tenure elongation of the chairmen and counselors in Rivers state because as I did said, two wrongs doesn't make a right.
I wish you come down from your high horse and say the truth for once. You can't continue shielding the act of the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers and at the same time continue scolding the governor. It makes no sense at all. Both are bluntly wrong. Shikena!
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by BondRiv: 8:41pm On Jun 19, 2024
IfnobeGod20:

Please what do you know? You know how many times I had corrected you on this forum? You think making baseless comments is what entails good judgement. I had said it umpteenth times that using CTCs to administer LGAs is unconstitutional and I will continue to say that till our laws changed to recognize such but that would not justify tenure elongation of the chairmen and counselors in Rivers state because as I did said, two wrongs doesn't make a right.
I wish you come down from your high horse and say the truth for once. You can't continue shielding the act of the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers and at the same time continue scolding the governor. It makes no sense at all. Both are bluntly wrong. Shikena!

I know enough to teach you. What corrections are you talking about? That is not to say anyone is above correction. So why can't you take yours? You can dish it but can't take it. You use words you don't understand such as "baseless". What was baseless about my initial analysis about the situation? Was it not what played out?

Your naivety prevented you from seeing what was boldly written on the wall. Just humbly admit and learn, instead of beating about the bush in epistles.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 10:15pm On Jun 19, 2024
BondRiv:


I know enough to teach you. What corrections are you talking about? That is not to say anyone is above correction. So why can't you take yours? You can dish it but can't take it. You use words you don't understand such as "baseless". What was baseless about my initial analysis about the situation? Was it not what played out?

Your naivety prevented you from seeing what was boldly written on the wall. Just humbly admit and learn, instead of beating about the bush in epistles.
There had no where in all your comments that you suggested that the governor will be appointing caretaker chairman to man the LGAs but have been blunt that he appointed caretaker chairmen, when in real sense it was today he submitted names to the house for ratification and later he sworn them in. Trying playing smart can't make you to be wise or wiser than me because I take a step at a time and not trying jumping guns. Just because I don't get emotional for nothing.
If I begin to dig up many of your errors in many trends on this platform on critical political issues, you will be ashamed to reply me. I am mature enough to own up to my errors but in this I had made a comment since yesterday and continue this morning based on the existing scenario since Monday. The after thought is a straw you're holding on to.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by Miyachi: 10:53pm On Jun 19, 2024
BondRiv:


Just say I should teach you. You have read the constitution as many times as you claim and yet you don't know the relevant sections. Read section 7. You keep using the word "govern" like some mysterious thing. We have three branches of government. Of course, the primary function of the legislature is lawmaking, while the executive implements, with the judiciary interpreting. They are all part of governance and presiding over the affairs of the country.

This guy, you're an impossible chap.

It is the state house of assembly that has the powers that govern the local government.

Above is the statement you made. In this context, you used "govern" to mean "exercising authority over something". You've outlined the functions of the relevant arms above. Please reply with excerpts where it says any of these arms are supposed to preside over the affairs of the local government. Or more specifically, where it says that the state house of assembly is saddled with the responsibility of governing the local government.

There's nothing I would want to learn from you, it's either you're plain stubborn or just ignorant of the meaning of words.

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Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by BondRiv: 7:03am On Jun 20, 2024
Miyachi:


This guy, you're an impossible chap.



Above is the statement you made. In this context, you used "govern" to mean "exercising authority over something". You've outlined the functions of the relevant arms above. Please reply with excerpts where it says any of these arms are supposed to preside over the affairs of the local government. Or more specifically, where it says that the state house of assembly is saddled with the responsibility of governing the local government.

There's nothing I would want to learn from you, it's either you're plain stubborn or just ignorant of the meaning of words.

"It is the state house of assembly that has the powers that govern the local government."

The above quote you attributed to me isn't mine. Show the full post with my username, if it is. You quoted someone else. You clearly have an issue with getting your facts right, so work on that. Even though I think you place too much emphasis on that term govern and end up confusing yourself. You are not a legal scholar, so that is expected. As for the term presiding, it is again obvious that asides your lack of knowledge and understanding of the law, being the layman you are, the English Language, is also a problem for you.

I gave you an assignment to read section 7 of the constitution, what did you learn from doing so? I have taken up this task to teach you constitutional law pro bono, but you must be humble and willing to learn.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by BondRiv: 7:14am On Jun 20, 2024
IfnobeGod20:

There had no where in all your comments that you suggested that the governor will be appointing caretaker chairman to man the LGAs but have been blunt that he appointed caretaker chairmen, when in real sense it was today he submitted names to the house for ratification and later he sworn them in. Trying playing smart can't make you to be wise or wiser than me because I take a step at a time and not trying jumping guns. Just because I don't get emotional for nothing.
If I begin to dig up many of your errors in many trends on this platform on critical political issues, you will be ashamed to reply me. I am mature enough to own up to my errors but in this I had made a comment since yesterday and continue this morning based on the existing scenario since Monday. The after thought is a straw you're holding on to.

You are naive or simply ignorant of the subject. I blame your poor understanding of Nigerian politics for your predicament. When next you see someone like me with knowledge of a subject making an analysis of which you are a novice in the field, just sit back and learn. Go through my post and get an understanding, if you can even comprehend political analysis. Everything the governor was doing was geared towards the appointment of caretaker chairmen. This was known by all knowledgeable people in this political sphere since last year. Political analysis and knowledge is not for everyone. Eat your humble pie.
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by TruthsFM: 10:21am On Jun 20, 2024
I hope the APC wailers and propagandists read this news well
Re: LG Crisis: Fubara's Action In Line With Constitution - Rivers APC Chieftain by IfnobeGod20(m): 7:54pm On Jun 20, 2024
BondRiv:


You are naive or simply ignorant of the subject. I blame your poor understanding of Nigerian politics for your predicament. When next you see someone like me with knowledge of a subject making an analysis of which you are a novice in the field, just sit back and learn. Go through my post and get an understanding, if you can even comprehend political analysis. Everything the governor was doing was geared towards the appointment of caretaker chairmen. This was known by all knowledgeable people in this political sphere since last year. Political analysis and knowledge is not for everyone. Eat your humble pie.
I won't go down with you. All these your afterthoughts doesn't move me an inch. If you can be supporting the move by the 27 recalcitrant lawmakers to amend the tenure of the chairmen by 6 months and they even overrides the assent of the governor but you don't see any Issue about that but instead foaming like poisoned dog on issue of governor appointing CTCs for the LGAs. I have asked you, does two wrongs make a right?
You're always bragging you know the law and politics, even some of us that doesn't read law, know that any law made that is not consistent with the constitution is null and void. Even a layman know this.
I have not seen where you condemned their act or foreseen where the court will void that their self made law. But you can foreseen governor appointing CTCs. This is what we called yeyenatu in Yoruba land.

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