budaatum:


KnownUnknown, I really thought you and I had gone past the point where unknown you would know buda, but it seems we still have a very long way to go.

Does a "typical Christian" tell anyone to read the Bible and the Quran?

Do you seriously think your mind reading skills are so good that you quite understood the implication or intent of my initial post?

You should put in more effort in to trying to know the unknown instead of assuming you already know things about buda that you obviously do not know.

It’s clear in the previous the behavior of yours that is akin to a typical Christian; not the straw man you are arguing against.

budaatum:



You might learn the wisdom of using your own senses like Eve did instead of the ignorance of Adam which kept him in naked ignorant slavery,

Here’s another one. By “use your own senses”, you indicate that Eve is engaging in some critical thinking when it’s obvious she isn’t.

She goes wherever the wind blows. The first guy says something and she believes. The second guy says something else and she believes.

KnownUnknown:

Kant or Heidegger had opinions but don’t just assume that he can’t understand them. Also, Kant and Heidegger are not in the same class of literature as the Bible and Quran. The Avesta, Odu Ifa, Baghavad Gita are the other works you should have recommended along with the abrahamic stuff. You could have also recommended the Book of Mormon and Dianetics. Chinaua Achebe’s works are not akin to religious lore.

This goes without saying, and anyone who understands their Bible would know not to live by one book alone because the Quran has it written in it that all the trees and all the oceans multiplied 7 times can not complete the words of the gods. Any one who attempts to understand those two expressions will seek for other books to read and may land where you've suggested.

One does after all need to disabuse oneself of belief so one can understand whatever one reads, and the fact the individual is searching for a local god to replace a foreign god does show primary level of Bible and Quran, if you asked me.

KnownUnknown:
Also, why are you comparing those fairy tales to Nollywood when you can compare them to indigenous fairy tales?!

Same reason we are discussing and writing in a foreign language instead of our indigenous languages I suppose. But I did mention our indigenous fairy tale by Chinua Achebe, note. If you can read that without believing it, you'd hopefully not believe any book you read, which is the intention of recommending the Bible and the Quran which present contradictory beliefs that can't be held at once.

I do not desire that the op be enslaved to any god or religion, be they foreign or local. I want the op to be free. And the Bible and Quran serve that purpose in our Nigerian culture, unless one reads them with closed eyes, which, by mere asking the question the op asked, the op does not have because he sees enough to seek.

KnownUnknown:


Here’s another one. By “use your own senses”, you indicate that Eve is engaging in some critical thinking when it’s obvious she isn’t.

She goes wherever the wind blows. The first guy says something and she believes. The second guy says something else and she believes.

Eve not engaging in critical thinking is your understanding. You likely don't see through the introduction of a talking serpent neither.

If Eve believed she would die if she ate the fruit of knowledge, she wouldn't have agreed to eat it unless she wanted to die, but just the fact she's willing to consider what she's told is admirable, in my opinion.

If the op did the same, as in, first believe his Christian teaching, which he did, and then consider the Quran as suggested, he'd eventually discover believing anything without first checking with one's own senses if true or not is very stupid indeed.

KnownUnknown:


It’s clear in the previous the behavior of yours that is akin to a typical Christian; not the straw man you are arguing against.

I disagree with you and many here would disagree with you too, but you are entitled to your opinion.

My own opinion is that any one who relies on any god for their daily bread or salvation is very ignorant and stupid and would likely starve. And anyone who serves gods is a slave to the figment of their imagination.

Everyday247:
Seen thanks

If you have any questions or discussion let me know

Expanse2020:

If you have any questions or discussion let me know

Ok 👌

Sapasenator:


Ada beke, ke ije!

my nsiraland new love

Adaisback:
my nsiraland new love

bianu ka anyi protest ia together. A chorom ka munagi we nwe m'meko.

I am not a new love, I was following with old moniker and even sent people to check up on you when you were injured about 2 years ago. You see that I care.

Sapasenator:


bianu ka anyi protest ia together. A chorom ka munagi we nwe m'meko.

I am not a new love, I was following with old moniker and even sent people to check up on you when you were injured about 2 years ago. You see that I care.

see person ? Akuko Mike Ejeagha. So you ve been crushing on me all these years?

Everyday247:
What kind of Traditional diety are you looking for?
Many of these deities are very similar to the Christian diety.
You can try a great spirit instead, they are not as demanding as deities.
An example of one is the ones worshipped by the native Americans.

what do u mean by a great spirit?

Adaisback:
see person ? Akuko Mike Ejeagha. So you ve been crushing on me all these years?

I am not ashamed to admit na. Awum onye ezu okwu.

If you want to truly return to the ways of the old gods and African traditional religion then this is my answer for you. If you are an igbo man stick to worshipping God almighty chukwu okike or chineke or chukwu himself through his two principal subordinate deities Amadioha the thunder god and Ala the earth goddess, if you are a Yoruba man stick to Sango the thunder god and the earth goddess any other deity from water deity to forest deity cannot be trusted this two principal deities are the foundation and pillars of the religion, culture and justice system of most Nigerian ethnic groups and they are genuine browse where the shrine of Amadioha is in Nigeria and go and visit the place makes sure you ask the natives and indigenes on how to approach the shrine ask for the rules and regulations guiding the relationship between the deity and his follower and try to keep to it. And one more thing don't join islam that's like moving from frying pan to fire. Better to be a traditional religious practicioner than to be a Muslim

Sapasenator:


I am not ashamed to admit na. Awum onye ezu okwu.

onye ezi okwu indeed

FRANCISTOWN:

Your useless Jesus! What can your inexistent character do for him?

YOU Need to YIELD TO HIM TOO. don't harden yOUr heart as in the DAYs Of provocation (see eX 17 compare With 1cor10). If u WILL BE Sincere and COME TO him noW, YOU TOO will find rest for Your soul (SEE MttW.11:28).
OH HOW WONDERFUL AND LOVING He is. If only you will COME. Come noW Brother, the spirit and the bride says COME!

ccjoe:
YOU Need to YIELD TO HIM TOO. don't harden yOUr heart as in the DAYs Of provocation (see eX 17 compare With 1cor10). If u WILL BE Sincere and COME TO him noW, YOU TOO will find rest for Your soul (SEE MttW.11:28).
OH HOW WONDERFUL AND LOVING He is. If only you will COME. Come noW Brother, Come!

When I was a christian I never found rest for my soul. My soul was full of unrest. Your Jesus like he didn't do anything for so many didn't do anything for me too.

briandermot:
what do u mean by a great spirit?

Not sure, but I read somewhere that they are similar to gods but they do not appear to have any personality i.e they are not anthropomorphic.
They are like forces of nature but partially sentient/conscious. While gods are just like superpowered human beings. They have emotions and behave somehow like humans e.g they get jealous or angry.
I think a good example of a religion that worship great spirits is Animism.

Akhee:
Accept Islam. Look into the religion known as Islam. Do a thorough research on Islam. Don't judge Islam by what some people who call themselves Muslims do. Open your mind without sentiment.

Sorry I don’t do imported religion.

Africans knew God before any other race of people by at least 190,000 years.

We have no reason to look for God outside the African continent.

If we weren’t brainwashed by invaders, the world would be coming to AFRICA to learn about God and spirituality.

Just like their ancestors used to come for thousands of years until the modern era.

Are you people even aware that the ancient Greeks used to call Africa “the Land of the Gods”?

That they referred to Africans as “the blameless Ethiopians” who were “favoured by the Gods”?

Africa, which they called ‘Ethiopia’, was where the Greek god Zeus went to rest when he wasn’t in Greece.

In his famous work of around 800 BCE, The Iliad, Homer wrote that

“Zeus went yesterday to Ocean, to a feast
With the blameless Ethiopians and all the Gods followed.
‘There is no time to sit.
To the streams of Ocean
To the land of the Ethiopians
Where they offer a hecatomb to the Gods.
I go once again
So as to receive my share
Of the feast’ “

- Homer, Iliad

If i were you i will ask for what any God has for mankind in general and observe if such a God is fulfilling His promises that will assure me He is capable of securing my future!