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Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Funkyswagzz(m): 12:11pm On Aug 24
Corruption can never allow Nigeria to prosper
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 12:15pm On Aug 24
South Africa conducted an election.

All of us in Nigeria didn't need a soothsayer to tell us it was free and fair, without being there.

Is this our Nigeria cursed by an evil spirit?

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Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by chloride6: 12:19pm On Aug 24
Say no to e collation
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by tricksters: 12:21pm On Aug 24
I just tire for this nation. Whenever we are ready to conduct free n fair election we all will protest n ensure INEC adopt the method, machinery n expertise South Africa used in conducting their own election.

After election nobody goes to court among the politicians in SA, if the PDP labour n the rest are ready they should let Tinubu know they'll not contest election unless SA election system is adopted as the REFORM we need in Nigeria.

I will not trust any Nigeria to carry out any reform talk more of any meaningful one because we are too correct n will still adopt or recommend a reform that leave room to cheating and manipulation no matter how many trilling such foolish Nigeria is given.



DIVINEEVIDENCE:
South Africa conducted an election.

All of us in Nigeria didn't need a soothsayer to tell us it was free and fair, without being there.

Is this our Nigeria cursed by an evil spirit?
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by donbrowser(m): 12:24pm On Aug 24
Lol. Some people can't get over this election loss sha.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by louken(m): 12:28pm On Aug 24
Too much grammar.
Last last those of them that supported the nonsense are now wailing more than us that have been shouting out the warning ab initio.
We have stopped wailing and are now looking them with one eye.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by muykem: 12:37pm On Aug 24
I agree with his submission excerpt collation of results through BVA. It's either we fully go on electronic voting or we stick to our manual voting. It's very risk to merge the two. I am not in support.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Blitzerz: 12:44pm On Aug 24
Mamood will still glitch it
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by belzabull(f): 1:00pm On Aug 24
BiafraAburi:
This muguh called chidoka is still talking about PVC. What a dunce. Still hoping to repeat another PVC ediocy.
nwokem calm down, no be to dey insult anyhow like mumu
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by otherway: 1:17pm On Aug 24
CyrusVI:
Inec keep improving their system

Mahmood Yakoob seems to be a creative person

Our Electoral system will be enviable by 2031

Kudos to them
This must be a parody angry

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Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Medipharm: 1:29pm On Aug 24
CyrusVI:
Inec keep improving their system

Mahmood Yakoob seems to be a creative person

Our Electoral system will be enviable by 2031

Kudos to them
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Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Shikini: 1:36pm On Aug 24
Truth
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by mikywonder(m): 2:01pm On Aug 24
CrushObituaries:
What Chidoka is saying is corroborating the United States election monitoring team that, although there are some handful of violence during election, the election reflects the will of the people, bitter grievingory Obi and his embittered people should go and sit inside gutter.

Ur people suppose enter house cry for you
U are doomed walahi
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by SmartPolician: 2:14pm On Aug 24
CrushObituaries:
What Chidoka is saying is corroborating the United States election monitoring team that, although there are some handful of violence during election, the election reflects the will of the people, bitter grievingory Obi and his embittered people should go and sit inside gutter.

With your yeye moniker, you no fit make sense for this life. Osita is talking about the three off-cycle elections, not the presidential election.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Earthquakes: 2:16pm On Aug 24
BiafraAburi:
This muguh called chidoka is still talking about PVC. What a dunce. Still hoping to repeat another PVC ediocy.

Imagine a nonentity who’s parents are in the village farming is calling someone featuring on interviews mugu 😅😆
Who is your father, what is his name?? Lol
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Image123(m): 2:32pm On Aug 24
It's not yet practicable for a country like Nigeria. What happens to the security? Can it withstand hundreds of thousands of people refreshing the server for updates? Will all polling units and wards be able to input their results? It's like choosing to have one gate of entry and multiple gates of entry. Multiple entry points multiply problems.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by BluntCrazeMan: 3:29pm On Aug 24
femi4:
Not again
BVAS failed us the last time, and it's bound to fail again
There is something that you do not understand here.

After the Accreditation,, the work of the BVAS Had not ended.
It just started.

So, it was you and me who believed INEC’s lies that the BVAS works only at the Polling-units..
The BVAS Machines was supposed to also travel all the way with the Results as the results are being tallied and collated...

HOLD THE INEC RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by femi4: 3:54pm On Aug 24
BluntCrazeMan:
There is something that you do not understand here.

After the Accreditation,, the work of the BVAS Had not ended.
It just started.

So, it was you and me who believed INEC’s lies that the BVAS works only at the Polling-units..
The BVAS Machines was supposed to also travel all the way with the Results as the results are being tallied and collated...

HOLD THE INEC RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING.
We are saying the same thing. INEC will not allow technology to work
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by BluntCrazeMan: 4:17pm On Aug 24
femi4:
We are saying the same thing. INEC will not allow technology to work


Well...
You're right.

But that was somehow in the past now..


There is something we are teaching the Edo people at this moment.

We are teaching them how to insist on the right things being done.
And thus, the technology will work to its fullest capacity.
Whether they did Manual Collation or Electronic Collation..
The Technology will still work very very well.
(It is only a little bit time that it would waste)
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Paentera(m): 4:36pm On Aug 24
BluntCrazeMan:
We have learnt through experience that the INEC would always choose to do the wrong things, and then, employ all their legal intelligence to the fullest just in order for them to find any possible legal loopholes (in the electoral legal framework of-course) so as to use them and back themselves up in their wrong-doings.

For Instance:

The Current Electoral-Act-2022,, there are no mentions of “E-Collation System”,, and even though the INEC might constantly and frequently be promising to use it, they would just turn around at the last-hour and not use it again, and start quoting the Electoral-Act-2022 to back themselves up (the ugly experience of 11th November 2023 comes to mind)..

It is very clear to everybody that the Electoral-Act-2022 did not “Specifically MENTION” that the E-Collation or E-Verification should be employed,, and therefore, for us to be on the safe side of dealing with the INEC (as they had seemingly become fraudulent in their dealings),, we better not agree that they have the zeal and the willingness to do the right things,, and thus, we shouldn't be expecting them to do the right things after-all -- since those things that were supposed to be the Right Things are not CLEARLY WRITTEN inside the Electoral-Act-2022..
They would even come on tv and social-media and be teaching people how to be complaint with those sophisticated technological procedures, only for them to turn around and renegade at the last minute and betray everybody in the end.

The INEC would definitely be the first persons to remind all of us at the Law-Court that “UPLAODING RESULTS TO THE IREV” is not written inside the Electoral-Act, in-fact, that there is no MENTION of IREV or anything similar to it inside the Electoral-Act -- (not to even talk about the uploading of the “Ward-Collated” Results to the same non-existent IREV -- according to the Electoral-Act),, and if they defend themselves with such a line, they are very correct - because the Electoral-Act-2022 Did Not at any point give strong legal powers to the INEC’s “Regulations and Guidelines for the Conduct of Elections 2022” which mentioned the IREV.

So, I am suggesting that you help us to push the National Assembly members to CLEARLY and Specifically INCLUDE THE MANDATORY USE OF THE “E-TRANSMISSION” AND “E-COLLATION” INSIDE THE ELECTORAL-ACT.

It will definitely go a long way..


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So therefore, for the moment,, it is left for concerned citizens (or political parties, or Civil Society Organisations) to use court orders to force the INEC to be fully carrying out the dictates of the Electoral-Act-2022; especially the following Sections:

1. Section:64(4a)
2. Section:64(6b)
3. Section:64(9)....

That-is;

For Section:64(4a); No Collation (at any level of collation -- even at the final level of collation) can start unless the accreditation-values from the Lower Levels were confirmed and verified to be correct and consistent with those accreditation-values that were CAPTURED IN THE BVAS MACHINES and transmitted either electronically or MANUALLY.

This means that, the verification of the Accreditation-values should not happen only at the WRAD-LEVEL Collation, but all the way to the Final Collation Level.

Therefore,, since INEC had chosen to opt for the MANUAL TRANSMISSION OF THE ACCREDITATION-VALUES INSIDE THE BVAS, that is a very valid choice, but then, they have to ADHERE STRICTLY to what the Electoral-Act-2022 says that must be done before the Collation at any level must begin.

Therefore, A court order is very necessary at this point in time...

This definitely means that Collation Exercises would take weeks or even months for them to be complete (that is, if the INEC continues to insist that they must continue to go by the MANUAL TRANSMISSION method -- else, with Electronic Transmission and Collation, the whole collation would just be concluded within hours -- the choice is ours to make).



And for Section:64(6b) ; it means that Once there is Dispute at any level of collation, the Collation Officer must COMPLETELY SOLVE IT before sending the results to the upper-level collation officers... The collation officer shouldn't tell the people and stakeholders that the dispute would be solved at the final end of Collation.. The Electoral-Act mandated the Collation Officers to solve all the disputes by PHYSICALLY CALLING FOR THE BVAS-MACHINES OF ALL SUCH DISPUTED POLLING-UNITS, amongst other materials that are necessary for settling such disputes..

Then, the Section:64(9) made it very clear that any Collation Officer who didn't do their collations according to these PROCEDURES (whether the INEC Opted for Electronic Transmission or Manual Transmission),, they should be found LIABLE,, and be punished for violating the Electoral-Act.

This also means that the RESULTS THAT COMES OUT FROM SUCH A COLLATION CENTER had been rendered Null-and-void, since the Collation Officer didn't do the right things, and thus, there would be need for a total re-collation using the BVAS-MACHINES and the original EC8As.

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Since the INEC had chosen to out-rule the use Electronic Transmission,, and had based their Rascality on the Electoral-Act-2022, we should really stop hurting ourselves by expecting them to still come back and use any form of the Electronic Transmission again. BECAUSE, THEY WILL STILL NOT USE IT AT THOSE AREAS WHERE THEY HOPE TO RIG MASSIVELY, AND THEY WILL STILL COME BACK AT THE COURTS AND USE THE LOOPHOLES IN THE ELECTORAL-ACT-2022 TO ESCAPE JUDGEMENT.


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What we have to do now is to accept the Fact that we are FULLY in the ERA OF USING MANUAL TRANSMISSION,, and then, use court orders to Force them to Also Physically and MANUALLY Transmit the BVAS-MACHINES..

And should anything happen to the BVAS-MACHINES in the course of transmitting it manually, the results whose Accreditation-values are supposed to be VERIFIED and CONFIRMED with those tampered BVAS-MACHINES are to be considered NULL-AND-VOID..

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Maybe with these new procedures,,, by the time the INEC suffers the burden of Manually Transmitting the Accreditation-values (that-is; transferring the whole BVAS-MACHINES) from the Polling-units to the Wards, and up to the Final Collation Points,, either once or twice in any of the OFF-CYCLE ELECTIONS,, they themselves (and all the other stakeholders involved) will massively push for the National Assembly members to quickly and hastily include the “Electronic-Transmission” and “Electronic-Collation” in Clear Terms inside the Electoral-Act.


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It's time to tell the INEC that “ENOUGH IS ENOUGH”..

Since they they are deliberately creating LEGAL LOOPHOLES, then, let us all play the game their way..

We will also enter inside that Legal Loophole with them and make it LEGALLY WIDER and more comfortable for all of us.

Your effort is commendable in highlighting the parts of the Electoral Act - however to make it digestable for majority of the public, you should have mentioned the section without quoting the entire thing. Lol.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by BluntCrazeMan: 6:23pm On Aug 24
Paentera:


Your effort is commendable in highlighting the parts of the Electoral Act - however to make it digestable for majority of the public, you should have mentioned the section without quoting the entire thing. Lol.

I did this thing you said is another thread 🧵,, and another person told me to quote what the section says because it's not everybody that has the Electoral-Act for them to go and find the section and check.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Atlantis585: 7:23pm On Aug 24
Like say you wan Thieffnubbu to lose.
E no go gree do that one ooo.
The man no fit win a free and fair local govt election in Iragbiji sef.
Re: The Election BVAS Should Have An E-collation System - Chidoka by Ojuntana: 7:21pm On Sep 19
BluntCrazeMan you're doing well
Unfortunately the problem is not INEC but the courts

The courts have ruled that INEC guidelines are not worth the paper dey were printed

They have also ruled against cancelling of PU results based on allegation of rigging

INEC flouted its own rules in 2023 and the courts gave them a pat on the back for it

So why do you think the courts will give you any latitude in INEC this time around

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