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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by DeGods007(m): 8:22am On Oct 09
Guide777:
Reno Omokri and ...... is 5 & 6

Reno is a bastard and a bigot

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by emonis88: 8:24am On Oct 09
EdiskyHarry:
Not necessary now, the most important thing is how to end Nigeria now let everybody go their separate ways. Nigeria is like joining China, USA, Afghanistan, Russia, Ghana and Qatar together. It will never work. We must correct this mistake lord lugard and the British government made out of their selfish interest.
So that T pain can go n rule his own people with his master stroke 🤕🤕🤕🤕

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by computer0810(m): 8:25am On Oct 09
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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by gidgiddy: 8:27am On Oct 09
twosquare:
Ironsi already abrogated the resources of all the regions to the centre, thereby ending the regional autonomy. It is called unification decree for a reason. Gowon acted on what was on ground already.

"It was the decree that started the death of regionalism....General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating the Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided military governors for each state. With decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried"

https://guardian.ng/opinion/history-and-the-future-of-decree-34-of-1966/

So, trying to pander to the feelings of your host or so is dishonest. When you have taken all the resources to the centre, what remains?

Aguiyi Ironsi abolished regionalism and resource control...Gowon, out of necessity due to Ojukwu's rebellion, further buried it by breaking it up into 12 states.


Read: https://x.com/renoomokri/status/1670355943328997378

Rather than quoting third party comments, Google Decree 34 and read what is in there

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 8:27am On Oct 09
😂 Can someone explain this?! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by HydraFeeds(m): 8:29am On Oct 09
Because military rule is unitary doesn't mean the person that enacted such unification law is not primarily responsible for the abolishment . Enough with the propaganda .

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by sulaak(m): 8:30am On Oct 09
Mindlog:
Gowon created the 12 states out of the regions, ending regionalism but dem hang for Ironsi head.

Aguiyi Ironsi's decree 34 abolished the regional system in Nigeria.

The military government is not, by definition, unitary, but Ironsi abolished the regional system because he believed that the regions were not loyal to the Nigerian constitution. Gowon exacerbated the problem of the unitary state, but the fault lies with Aguiyi Ironsi's Decree 34

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by BoldBrainz(m): 8:31am On Oct 09
GeneralPula:
That’s his personal opinion and that won’t change the truth..

Ironsi scrapped our regionalism..

One of the major reasons Ibo killed Saudana & Akintola was simply cuz it wouldn’t be possible to scrapped our regionalism if they were alive. They had to plan and use a coup to kill them, thereby paving way for their plans..

They wanted to control the whole of Nigeria from the center but they forgot man proposes, God disposes! Azikwe knew there was going to be a coup, he fled away I think 2 days to the planned coup day. It was all planned by them to snatch power!

I just love the fact that Ironsi didn’t end well! He was killed like a church rat and I so love that..

This one is clearly one of those misinformed dingbats whose stoic knowledge cannot be altered, whether what he knows is absolute garbage or a deviation from the actual truth.

Na these ones them dey brainwash with ease.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mrexcell(m): 8:34am On Oct 09
Reno omockry evil mission to demarket the igbo nation by all means and set them up for another national scapegoating will never succeed instead his evil plans will surely backfire against him and his ethnic group.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 8:36am On Oct 09
Tetrahedron:
I am a Yoruba man and still to this day believe that the 1966 coup was necessary to rid the country of corruption and Ironsi did no evil but the evil was perpetuated by those who took over and killed Ironsi

It's not about being Yoruba or being Igbo or Hausa. It's about being sincere and objective. The author is only catching straws just like you.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Christistruth00: 8:36am On Oct 09
grin
Fake News Propaganda



Gen Ironsi abolished Regions and Regional Autonomy


This was the Speech Gen Ironsi gave afterwards and he owned up to abolishing the Region's with his full Chest!!!!

Don't change his Story

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 8:38am On Oct 09
HydraFeeds:
Because military rule is unitary doesn't mean the person that enacted such unification law is not primarily responsible for the abolishment . Enough with the propaganda .

😂😂😂😂. I have been trying to understand this English. Ironsi must have been a civilian. The Author didn't think it through.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Kukutenla: 8:39am On Oct 09
The land Africa may be asking God why he put the black race on its land
The Berlin conference is still a problem for Africa over 100 years after it was convened?

We have had democracies, monarchies, military govts since the exit of colonialism and till now we cannot adequately define our nationhood as Africans and evolve a governance model or political system that near perfectly meets our needs.

The author is right. But do we have great political thinkers who can fashion a governance strategy that will ensure that each ethnic nationality is given a chance at self-governance and representation at the national table?

I can boldly say that apart from the SE and SW, no other region is ethnically homogenous. That is why there is so much tribal agitation and our politics has followed that line which has led to the kind of transactional governance we have.

There is a need to find a model that will ensure that at least 60% of the ethnic nationalities are represented in government to a reasonable level. The system is not working

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by crossbreedwears(m): 8:40am On Oct 09
How much did he saw?
Belawy:
Gowon that saw money but didn't know what to do with it as an Head Of State at the age of 32.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mrexcell(m): 8:40am On Oct 09
EdiskyHarry:
Not necessary now, the most important thing is how to end Nigeria now let everybody go their separate ways. Nigeria is like joining China, USA, Afghanistan, Russia, Ghana and Qatar together. It will never work. We must correct this mistake lord lugard and the British government made out of their selfish interest.




Nice description those willing to die to keep this unholy british business experiment are all completely insane.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Gerhards: 8:42am On Oct 09
Zooposki:
ChiefJusticeFuc in severe sifia pains.





That ediot with low self esteem will definitely come up with another Moniker and lies to make himself feel better grin

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by IFECHIGCON(m): 8:44am On Oct 09
Gerhards:






That ediot with low self esteem will definitely come up with another Moniker and lies to make himself feel better grin

You gat the point now grin grin grin

Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Armaggedon: 8:46am On Oct 09
Who even believed it was Ironsi?

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 8:48am On Oct 09
twosquare:
Ironsi already abrogated the resources of all the regions to the centre, thereby ending the regional autonomy. It is called unification decree for a reason. Gowon acted on what was on ground already.

"It was the decree that started the death of regionalism....General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating the Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided military governors for each state. With decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried"

https://guardian.ng/opinion/history-and-the-future-of-decree-34-of-1966/

So, trying to pander to the feelings of your host or so is dishonest. When you have taken all the resources to the centre, what remains?

Aguiyi Ironsi abolished regionalism and resource control...Gowon, out of necessity due to Ojukwu's rebellion, further buried it by breaking it up into 12 states.


Read: https://x.com/renoomokri/status/1670355943328997378

NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

The writer wrote this below and I can't make any sense out of it. Is he saying that Ironsi was a civilian?! 😂😂😂😂😂😁😂 . The write didn't think it through before making such a statement lol.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Goosethetruth(m): 8:48am On Oct 09
AcuraZDX:


https://saharareporters.com/2024/10/08/blame-yakubu-gowon-not-aguiyi-ironsi-nigerias-loss-regional-autonomy-dele-ogun

This Quisling has the IPOB propagandists masturbating with glee on this thread.
One thing is clear (no matter the number of traitors and Quislings you invite to your IPOB forum to pander to your whims and caprices). Ironsi abolished the regions after the Ibo military arm carried out a lopsided coup on January 15th 1966 through his tribalistic Decree number 34.

Secondly Quislings never end well. They are used,dumped and can even lose their lives if they are not careful. Colonel Victor Banjo is the yard stick by which Quislings are measured. I have no RIP to waste on any Quisling who decides to sell out his own people and white wash history for reasons best known to himself alone.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Mrexcell(m): 8:50am On Oct 09
GeneralPula:
That’s his personal opinion and that won’t change the truth..

Ironsi scrapped our regionalism..

One of the major reasons Ibo killed Saudana & Akintola was simply cuz it wouldn’t be possible to scrapped our regionalism if they were alive. They had to plan and use a coup to kill them, thereby paving way for their plans..

They wanted to control the whole of Nigeria from the center but they forgot man proposes, God disposes! Azikwe knew there was going to be a coup, he fled away I think 2 days to the planned coup day. It was all planned by them to snatch power!

I just love the fact that Ironsi didn’t end well! He was killed like a church rat and I so love that..


So how come those who took over from gowon and who claimed to love regionalism kept the current arrangement and have vehemently refused to return the country back to the old order after 58yrs of monopolising power amongst themselves?

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by HydraFeeds(m): 8:50am On Oct 09
Softmirror:


😂😂😂😂. I have been trying to understand this English. Ironsi must have been a civilian.

Then you need to go back to school .

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Monimaker22: 8:50am On Oct 09
They know anything they feed Nigerians with, the empty heads BELIEVE without minding.

That's how this stupid nation is, even in the so called history, they rewrite what isn't okay just to paint Easterners bad.

Wetin God go judge from this nation plenty pass whites dem.

What's their gain now painting the very best Military head of state bad.

The hatred knows no bound but in all, God still dey disgrace those wey think say they are better than Easterners.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Christistruth00: 8:50am On Oct 09
Softmirror:


NOTHING BOTH THE TRUTH. The writer wrote this below and I can't make any sense out of it. Is he saying that Ironsi was a civilian?! 😂😂😂😂😂😁😂

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by aywagze(m): 8:51am On Oct 09
Blame the stone age for our darkness too ..🤔
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 8:51am On Oct 09
[quote author=Christistruth00 post=132348875][/quote]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 The Truth is the Truth.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Softmirror: 8:52am On Oct 09
HydraFeeds:


Then you need to go back to school .

Ok 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by bixton(m): 8:54am On Oct 09
AcuraZDX:


https://saharareporters.com/2024/10/08/blame-yakubu-gowon-not-aguiyi-ironsi-nigerias-loss-regional-autonomy-dele-ogun


It's only those who don't use their heads to think will fall for any thing looking meaningful to be taken serious with thought. I guess this is a counter to that which Reno wrote.

Of what use is regional government now and why would anyone be talking about who is to be blamed?

Imagine a State like Kwara that was part of the Northern region. Then 1967 it became West Central State and then 1976 it was renamed Kwara State then 1990 it was further split into Kogi and Niger States.
Imagine how these individual States still remain undeveloped even though they enjoy autonomy, how much more of they remain the old way of Regionals.

Let's also see the Old Eastern Region comprising of Old Rivers State out of which Bayelsa State was cut out and the 5 Igbo speaking States. Imagine the level of underdevelopment that some of these States are as single units ,how much more if they remain the old ways.

All those who are speaking about the return of the Regional government don't really have any good intention. They are just like those who think going back to the old national anthem will change anything in the nation.
Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Ubanz: 9:06am On Oct 09
Mindlog:
Gowon created the 12 states out of the regions, ending regionalism but dem hang for Ironsi head.

Don't you know Reno is an instigator, fanning the embers of disunity?
His hatred on the ethnic group called Igbo's has reduced him to a perpetual wanderer.
He will never find peace.
Forever he will be glancing over his shoulders anywhere he senses an Igbo man because Igbo's are everywhere.
meanwhile no one is pursuing him.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by Raf4: 9:06am On Oct 09
twosquare:
Ironsi already abrogated the resources of all the regions to the centre, thereby ending the regional autonomy. It is called unification decree for a reason. Gowon acted on what was on ground already.

"It was the decree that started the death of regionalism....General Gowon further compounded it by promulgating the Decree 14 of 1967 which broke Nigeria into 12 states and provided military governors for each state. With decrees 34, 8 and 14 regionalism was finally buried"

https://guardian.ng/opinion/history-and-the-future-of-decree-34-of-1966/

So, trying to pander to the feelings of your host or so is dishonest. When you have taken all the resources to the centre, what remains?

Aguiyi Ironsi abolished regionalism and resource control...Gowon, out of necessity due to Ojukwu's rebellion, further buried it by breaking it up into 12 states.


Read: https://x.com/renoomokri/status/1670355943328997378

Don't mind them. We know very well who declared the draconian decree 34 and the reasons behind it. One Dele Ologun that wasn't born then cannot rewite the history now. Obasanjo was the 1st president to rule based on the current Nigerian constitution, but you cannot tell us now that Obj is the author of it.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by confusedlady(f): 9:12am On Oct 09
gidgiddy:
They have lied for almost 60 years that Aguiyi-Ironsi's Decree 34 is what abolished the Region's and ended true federalism

They know thst those who will believe the lies are those too lazy to Google Decree 34 and realise it was just a civil service Decree

It was Giwon who abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had, and replaced them with 12 states, using Decree 14

Then Gowon introduced full blown unitary rule by abolishing resource control with Decree 15


You are so susceptible to manipulation as long as it tallies with your IPOB agenda....😆 🤣 😂
See arch IPOB tribalist agreeing with his Yoruba enemy because it suits your Ibo agenda.

This your IPOB propaganda on Ironside Ironsi has been refuted and defeated several times on this forum but you are free to keep deceiving yourself and your deluded IPOB followers.

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Re: Blame Gowon Not Aguiyi Ironsi For Nigeria's Loss Of Regional Autonomy –Dele Ogun by OTBA: 9:12am On Oct 09
AcuraZDX:


https://saharareporters.com/2024/10/08/blame-yakubu-gowon-not-aguiyi-ironsi-nigerias-loss-regional-autonomy-dele-ogun

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