ElSudani:
If you read the decree 34 and think someone other than Ironsi ended regionalism you probably need to go back to school.
What changed under Ironsi was not the physical structure of the Federation but the entire system of government which we still have till today.
Without decree 34 we can still have 36 regions and without any changes to the system of government. Afterall, Midwest region was created was created and the system did not change.
The decree 34 made "federal" in Federal Republic of Nigeria a mere name.
The quack lawyer Rudolph Okonkwo was talking to didn't know what he was talking about.

Bros this your stupidity is glaring how did Ironsi change the entire system, when he didn't even change the regions only the civil service was centralised.

sulaak:



See the research paper from your own Igbo countryman. Ironsi promulgated the unification decree No 34

http://eprints.gouni.edu.ng/2268/1/RENAISSANCE%20UNIVERISTY%20JOURNAL%20OF%20MANAGE%20MENT%20AND%20SOCIAL%20SCIENCES%20%28RUJMASS%29.pdf

Oga stop being dense. We know the name was unitary decree but again did he collapse the regions? No, he lept the regional structures intact. The only thing about the unitary decree was the unification of the civil service.

gidgiddy:


This one is busy parading third party comments because he knows that if he parades Ironsi's decree 34, alongside Gowons decree 14 and 15, it will expose his lies

You know the fellow very well. That is what he does.

ElSudani:


This is the mistake you and the kansogbo lawyer are making. The Regions were certainly there but they ceased to function as autonomous federating units.

But Oga they were still regions. They were autonomous even in the content of the unitary decree, the provincial administrator is only answerable to the military council. In the regional system was the Premier not answerable to the Prime minister? You guys just wake up and type rubbish.

Christistruth00:



That was Gen Ironsi's own Broadcast after decree 34
Gen Ironsi owned up to abolishing the Regions with his entire chest

Can you get us the recorded transcript of Ironsi's broadcast. Not the one from a newspaper I dare you to do that.

Anatolia:
Aguiyi Ironsi set the trend and Gowon implemented it so I will hold Aguiyi Ironsi guilty.

How did he set the trend? Please tell us.

Kdon2:


This mumu trying to push odious agenda by misinforming people. Ironsi was military as Gowon. Why segregating them. It started with ironsi period

You are still missing the point, who abolished regions and created states? It wasn't Ironsi but Gowon.

Raf4:


The same people you're referring to also demanded that secession clause be included in the constitution. Today, those who demanded for it do not want to hear about it whereas those who objected to it are the ones clamouring for it. So, what's your point?

See that lie you said about secession clause has been busted recently. In Lancaster during the discussions for independence in 1956. All the delegates including the yorubas there signed a document given to them by the British stating that as a condition for independence, the borders of colonial Nigeria will not be redrawn in anyway. That alone put paid to any talk of secession. It was the British that never wanted that clause because they didn't want the fragmentation of Nigeria so that the French will not come in. Also not that Zik stated in 1964 following the election violence and irregularities that if we cannot stay together let us disperse in peace.
Again another question which most bigots cannot answer is this, how is it possible that one man could overule everyone else who supported secession clause assuming the British allowed it to be included?

Housing:


Nigeria was a Republic before the Coup yes, but a Federation and practice Federalism. Aguiyi Ironsi abrogated Federalism with Decree 34. When a Republic stop practicing Federalism it is only left with Unitary.

Why did Aguyi Ironsi arrested Adaka Boro through Odumekwu Ojuku?

Adaka Boro decided to secede Niger Delta from Nigeria due to the abrogation of Federalism, which is tantamount to end of regional government.

Aguyi Ironsi arrested Isaac Adaka Boro through Ojukwu and sentenced him to death.
For every action there is equal and opposite reaction.

Again Ojukwu never arrested Boro stop the lies. The army unit came from 3rd division to quell the secession of Adaka Boro. Even Boro himself was not sincere with the secession as he wanted a Niger delta of only Ijaws, so what happens to the other tribes in the Niger Delta?
It was no secret that Balewa was using Boro to cause division in the Eastern region so that he will create a situation similar to what he successfully did in the Western region.
Whe Balewa was killed Boro decided to take matters in his hands.

biaframaster200:
I doubt if the writer of this article is not an impostor. IBO. People are desperate. ..wanting to change history by all means.

You can try harder. ........
Aguyi. Ironsi is the originator of the problem of this country.

How are they desperate to change history. Gowon decree is there and Ironsi's decree is there which one abolished regions and created states? Was it not Gowon? So how are igbos trying to change history. Sometimes people like you need to be flogged 24 lashes every morning so that you will have sense.

Christistruth02:


Fake News Propaganda



Gen Ironsi abolished Regions and Regional Autonomy


This was the Speech Gen Ironsi gave afterwards and he owned up to abolishing the Region's with his full Chest!!!!

Nobody should change his Story

From Christtruth00 to Christtruth02. Oga until you are picked up by DSS you will have sense.

Christistruth02:





How many times do we need to remind you that Ironsi left the Regions completely Powerless to make their
Own Laws and decisions without his influence?


Gen Ironsi with his own mouth announced that he had abolished the Regional Government

Western Regions UK Embassy was closed down because of it !!!

It is a simple thing go to the archives and bring the original transcript of Ironsi's speech let all of us see it.

Realtruth2023:


Oga stop being dense. We know the name was unitary decree but again did he collapse the regions? No, he lept the regional structures intact. The only thing about the unitary decree was the unification of the civil service.

Please read the paper that I shared with you. It clearly states that regional autonomy was severed from the regions, and the centre was strengthened.

sulaak:


Please read the paper that I shared with you. It clearly states that regional autonomy was severed from the regions, and the centre was strengthened.

Oga it is not true. The Provincial administrator has autonomy in the unitary decree. He was only answerable to the military council. This was the same thing during the parliamentary system in Nigeria.

Realtruth2023:


Bros this your stupidity is glaring how did Ironsi change the entire system, when he didn't even change the regions only the civil service was centralised.

What is glaring here is your inability to comprehend anything you read. That is if you have actually read the decree.
Facts are facts, it doesn't change even if you get emotional and cry about it.

Realtruth2023:


How did he set the trend? Please tell us.

See, I support the liberation of the ibos in Nigeria but if you go back to the early independence, you would see that pride made Nzeogwu and his cohorts to overthrow a civilian government. Instead of Ironsi to return the government to democratically elected government, he in principle abolished the various regional government. But he did not live long enough to implement it. It was Gowon that then implemented it.

Anatolia:


See, I support the liberation of the ibos in Nigeria but if you go back to the early independence, you would see that pride made Nzeogwu and his cohorts to overthrow a civilian government. Instead of Ironsi to return the government to democratically elected government, he in principle abolished the various regional government. But he did not live long enough to implement it. It was Gowon that then implemented it.

It was never pride. The issue was the ruling NPC party was putting things in place to totally dominate the country. They had instigated the crisis in the West and he had already started to replicate the same problem in the Eastern region by courting Adaka Boro and his cohorts, promising them a region of only Ijaws in the Niger delta which was impossible as the Niger delta has other tribes.
You just deliberately ignored that fact. Gowon crafted his own decree he didn't implement Ironsi's decree. Gowon didn't mention that je was implementing Ironsi's decree rather Gowon repealed the unitary decree. Please lie with finesse and stop denying the obvious truth.

ElSudani:


What is glaring here is your inability to comprehend anything you read. That is if you have actually read the decree.
Facts are facts, it doesn't change even if you get emotional and cry about it.

Oga have small shame and shut up. You are the one who out of bigotry and hatred for igbos have refused to use your brain.

Try and have sense, people like you should be flogged everyday until you have sense.

Realtruth2023:


Oga have small shame and shut up. You are the one who out of bigotry and hatred for igbos have refused to use your brain.

Try and have sense, people like you should be flogged everyday until you have sense.

You are the one who would rather try to alter the truth out of dumb tribal loyalty.
You can cry from now till eternity and it wouldn't change what Ironsi did.

Realtruth2023:


It is a simple thing go to the archives and bring the original transcript of Ironsi's speech let all of us see it.

You already have it

Christistruth02:



You already have it

Oga bring the original transcript exactly as it is from the archives not a newspaper publication.

ElSudani:


You are the one who would rather try to alter the truth out of dumb tribal loyalty.
You can cry from now till eternity and it wouldn't change what Ironsi did.

Oga hide your face in shame, most of the lies of all the years are now coming to light.

Realtruth2023:


Oga hide your face in shame, most of the lies of all the years are now coming to light.

You are the one who needs to crawl back into whichever hole you came from and stop disgracing your parents online.
How can one explain your inability to comprehend what is written in plane English?

See my response in the thread.

Realtruth2023:


Oga stop twisting accounts. Your hatred for igbos will not make you see reason and throw in the towel, yet you are still grasping to the same lies.

9gerian:
The best way to dispel a lie or twisted is to provide the truth to dislodge it.

On “hatred for igbos”, the Bible’s principle on sowing and reaping comes to mind. I believe if Igbos chose to sow love today, I am confident they will not have enough room to contain the outpouring of love they would receive from all over the world.

Case in point are the Yorubas who have different nationalities (from Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago etc) identifying with and even claiming their heritage without canvassing or force. Love always win over more love, and not vice versa.

Oga stop saying rubbish with so much confidence. Who told you igbos are not sowing love? You people just chose to say rubbish with so much confidence. There are igbos in the carribean that identify with us also the igbos in Bioko in Equatorial Guinea.

Realtruth2023:


Did he abolish regions? That is the question here? No he didn't. The structure was still there he decided that regions should be called collection of provinces, and in hindsight what is the definition of a region? It is a collection of provinces.
You guy claim to be educated, but cannot make deductive reasoning all because you are blinded by hatred and bigotry.

He abolished every structure that makes Regions. He abolished ethnic and cultural group. In the first Republic most of the political parties were owned by the ethnic nations and sociocultural groups.

What Aguyi Ironsi did was worst than abolition of regional government. He abolished Federalism which the regional government stood on so in essence the regional government was gone with the abolition of Federalism. When a country being a Federation then the center control everyone.

Stop playing ostrich.

Realtruth2023:


Again Ojukwu never arrested Boro stop the lies. The army unit came from 3rd division to quell the secession of Adaka Boro. Even Boro himself was not sincere with the secession as he wanted a Niger delta of only Ijaws, so what happens to the other tribes in the Niger Delta?
It was no secret that Balewa was using Boro to cause division in the Eastern region so that he will create a situation similar to what he successfully did in the Western region.
Whe Balewa was killed Boro decided to take matters in his hands.

3rd was under who's jurisdiction?

The best way to dispel a lie or twisted account is to provide the truth to dislodge it.

On “hatred for igbos”, the Bible’s principle on sowing and reaping should be the guide. I believe if Igbos choose to genuinely sow love today, I am confident they will not have enough room to contain the outpouring of love they would receive from all over the world. I say this because we have seen online where Pakistani, Ghanaians, Indians, South Africans, Liberians and , Malaysians and some of their police profile igbos. Is that also hate and bigotry?

Something is definitely wrong that needs to be changed by igbos themselves. Rather than blaming others, igbos look inwards and engage in mass reorientation for good, and see if the same people will not notice and start returning love to igbos.

Take for example the Yorubas, who readily sow love, respect and courtesy to their hosts. In spite of having their fair share of criminal elements, they have never been profiled as a people. In fact, they even have different nationalities (from US, Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago etc) who openly identify with them and even claim the Yoruba heritage intentionally without being canvassed or forced (like we see arguments by igbos with their immediate neighbors).

The Bible standard for human engagement is humility and those that uphold that standard flourish and are rewarded with love by their neighbors. Love sown always attracts love in greater measures, while envy, strife and disregard for others repels everyone. All can’t be wrong and only you are right. Think about it.

Realtruth2023:


Oga stop saying rubbish with so much confidence. Who told you igbos are not sowing love? You people just chose to say rubbish with so much confidence. There are igbos in the carribean that identify with us also the igbos in Bioko in Equatorial Guinea.

The main problem Ironsi created is the abolishment of regional autonomy, which simply meant resource control by the regions.

Every other thing that followed by Gowon and others were not as drastic.

Housing:


He abolished every structure that makes Regions. He abolished ethnic and cultural group. In the first Republic most of the political parties were owned by the ethnic nations and sociocultural groups.

What Aguyi Ironsi did was worst than abolition of regional government. He abolished Federalism which the regional government stood on so in essence the regional government was gone with the abolition of Federalism. When a country being a Federation then the center control everyone.

Stop playing ostrich.

Ironsi changed the entire structure by ending regional autonomy, which is the resource control the regions enjoyed before Ironsi ended it with the unification decree 34.

Realtruth2023:


Bros this your stupidity is glaring how did Ironsi change the entire system, when he didn't even change the regions only the civil service was centralised.

9gerian:
Ironsi changed the entire structure by ending regional autonomy, which is the resource control the regions enjoyed before Ironsi ended it with the unification decree 34.

Can you show us where he did this in Decree 34?

If you want to know how resource control ended, Google Gowon Decree 15

9gerian:
Ironsi changed the entire structure by ending regional autonomy, which is the resource control the regions enjoyed before Ironsi ended it with the unification decree 34.

see guy you still miss the point. there was regional autonomy. The only thing Ironsi did was unify the civil service thus removing administrative autonomy of the civil service in the regions.