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Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by lanrefront1(m): 12:49pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Notes From Atlanta ▼ Saturday, November 5, 2011 Biggest Scandal in Oil “Subsidy Removal” Fraud By Farooq A. Kperogi To begin with, the idea that the Nigerian government is subsidizing fuel for the masses is a willfully double-tongued twaddle. Only four kinds of people believe that: the hopelessly ignorant, the mentally subnormal, masochists with a perverse thirst for self-abasement, and beneficiaries of real government subsidies such as our indolent, unproductive, and ruthlessly acquisitive government officials and their equally debauched cronies in the private sector. Many informed commentators have conclusively proved that. But there is an even more treacherous scandal in this “oil subsidy” scam that the Nigerian national media is either not aware of or has chosen to ignore. Two weeks ago, when I compared fuel prices among oil-producing nations of the world and showed that Nigerians pay the highest price for petrol even though they receive the lowest minimum wage among their peers, I actually did a gross disservice to my argument. The situation is a lot worse than that. I will come back to this point shortly. I pointed out that the petrol I use for my car in America burns A LOT SLOWER than the one I use when I visit Nigeria, meaning that, at the current rate, Nigerians (with a miserable minimum wage of N7,000 per month or about $45 per month— against America’s over N180,000 minimum wage per month) actually pay more than or about equal to Americans for petrol. It takes a remarkably heartless person to ignore this heartrending fact. But that’s an issue for another day. A Nigerian online citizen investigator who goes by the handle “Viscount” revealed on a Nigerian Internet discussion forum recently that Nigerians not only pay the highest price for fuel in OPEC; they also consume the worst imaginable grade of petrol among oil- producing countries. That means comparing fuel prices between Nigeria and other oil-producing countries—or even countries in Europe and North America— is actually like comparing apples and oranges. These countries not only pay considerably lower prices than us for high-quality petrol, Nigerians have been paying unconscionably high prices for toxic fuel for the past 12 years, as you will see shortly. And they will pay even more for it next year. If this is not sufficien t reason to give up everything and “occupy” Nigeria until the oppressors are brought to a standstill, I don’t know what is. At the center of the tragic importation of toxic petroleum products into Nigeria— and other West African nations— is an Amsterdam-based multinational company called Trafigura. Keep that name in mind as you read this. Many Nigerians know that the fuel they consume domestically isn’t derived from the crude oil their country exports. They also know that they have one of the world’s best and finest quality of crude oil. What many of them don’t know is that the cabal of rapacious oil importers that the Jonathan administration—and the administrations that preceded him— mollycoddle with “subsidies” actually import toxic, low-quality oil that is not fit for consumption in Europe or North America—or in any society that cares for the welfare of its citizens. In 2010, a group of journalists from the UK, Norway, and the Netherlands won a prestigious international journalism award for a series of investigative reports they did on Trafigura’s barbarous dumping of toxic petroleum waste on Cote d’Ivoire. The waste killed scores of people and sickened thousands more. In July 2010, an Amsterdam court found the company guilty and fined it 1 million euros. (The caustic petroleum residues were dumped on Cote d’Ivoire on July 2, 2006). On June 24 this year, Afrol News, an Africa-centered news agency, reported that it had been “given documentation” that shows that the same Trafigura that was fined for dumping deleterious waste on Ivoirians had offloaded “dangerous and poor gasoline [i.e., petrol]” in the “Nigerian port of Lagos.” This toxic petrol, which Nigerians have been consuming for years and which our governments “subsidize,” according to the Afrol News report, “is highly unstable, not enduring sunlight exposure, and will cause damage to vehicles. It will also cause environmental damages due to high sulphur values, and can therefore cause human health damages. The product is strictly illegal in Europe and the US, but may in some cases be within legal quality and environment standards in some West African countries.” But this wasn't a one-off occurrence. It's been happening for over a decade. So, ordinary Nigerians are being forced to use their hard-earned money to buy inordinately overpriced and demonstrably harmful petroleum products. Yet the Nigerian government says this isn’t bad enough; it wants to increase fuel prices again next year. And the government has no plans to repair our refineries so that we can refine our own crude domestically and bring down the cost of petrol. \ But the bigger scandal is that in January this year, the Jonathan administration signed a multi-billion-dollar annual contract with the same Trafigura of toxic fuel dumping infamy. And there was no due process in the award of the contract. According to Business Day of January 4, 2011, “Under the agreement with the Nigerian government, Trafigura is expected to pick up Nigerian crude oil and in return, supply her with refined products; but it is unclear why the firm, which has supplied refined products to Nigeria in the last 12 years, was favoured for the deal. “Trafigura agreed to an annual contract with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) on the basis of taking 60,000 barrels of crude oil per day in exchange for refined products such as gasoline and gas oil of equivalent value estimated at around $3 billion a year.” An oil industry expert who spoke to Business Day said just “$1 billion of the amount would have put the four refineries in proper shape.” When I wrote two weeks ago that Nigerians were faced with a choice between death and life, I didn’t even know about all these. I am going to leave the reader with “Viscount”’s parting thoughts: “Nigeria will give Trafigura (confirmed supplier of bad petrol), 60, 000 barrels of oil per day in exchange for their mega tonnes of DEADLY-sulphurous petrol! Yep, Jonathan's government is paying a foreign company to systematically KILL Nigerians. And poor Nigerians are being asked to be happy jare! “So, Nigerians, when your brand new Tokunbo engine knocks - just like that, thank Trafigura! When your I-better- pass-my-neighbour generator's fume smells funny and leaves a film like Casper the Ghost - just like that, thank Trafigura! When you are walking in Lagos, or any other Nigeria [city], and you are experiencing a choking sensation from the mundane act of breathing in - just like that, thank Trafigura! Nigeria!” |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by Demdem(m): 1:02pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Pat utomi, those are peeps with brains that knows their onions whose phd can't be questioned. I wonder where the retardeen got his own. Nonsense. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by lanrefront1(m): 1:04pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Fuel subsidy: ‘Jonathan can’t convince Senators, Reps December 18, 2011 Politics By Paul Odenyi President Goodluck Jonathan was unable to convince members of the National Assembly on the imperative to remove the subsidy on petrol at a recent meeting, according to Hon. Bimbo Daramola, a member of the House of Representatives, present at the parley. Daramola exclusively spoke to Sunday Vanguard. Read on… Let us begin with the meeting between the president and members of the National Assembly at the State House. How did it go? First and foremost, a few of our members felt that we should assert ourselves as an arm of government after assessing the implication of having to go to see Mr. President in his own turf. But reason prevailed and members felt this is not about Goodluck Jonathan, it is about the Presidency of this country, that, most likely, the president will be talking to us about Nigeria. This is the superior argument that made us to go and listen to Mr. President. The National Assembly, particularly the House of Representatives that I have the privilege of being a member of, we know too well that we will not be parliamentarians if we are not Nigerians in the first place. And then we felt that whatever the president will be talking about will be anchored on our country which is very dear to every one of us. As we prepare for 2012, a number of issues are on the ground and we felt that Mr. President will have the opportunity to broker an amity, close ranks with us and make our relationship seamless. Then we will be able to see his side of the story. Like I said, a few members said, no, he should come to us because that is the way it should be. We prevailed on them and so Mr. President had the opportunity to speak to the 469 members. That would be the first time the president was addressing the joint session of the National Assembly even if it happened in his on turf. Well, everyone of us who made it to that meeting must be representing a vital constituency in this country. So, you may say that he was talking to Nigerians but, because we did not have the media in attendance, it could be compared to what we call executive session in parliament. Hon. Bimbo Daramola He presided and there were some of his ministers and the anchor person was the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF), Senator Anyim Pius Anyim. So we wanted to extend the courtesy to the president to show we are not in adversarial relationship but we must have a relationship that recognizes that we have a nation to administer. As the executive and the legislature, one thing that binds us together is that we must collectively address the nation’s problems. On the strength of this, we went to meet Mr. President. What we heard earlier was that it was the Senate that really wanted to see the president as a result of the issues raised at a sitting of the Upper House. How did the invitation extend to you at the House of Reps? This is not the first meeting between us and the president. As the vice chairman of one of the committees, I was privileged to, alongside a few chairmen, meet the president about two months ago. It was Dr Okonjo- Iweala (finance minister and coordinating minister of the economy), who spoke to us then about the intentions of the president vis a vis the 2012 budget. So, when this invitation came, it was impromptu and some members, smarting from the past experience of chairmen going to meet Mr. President, felt we needed to be very careful about this one. The invitation was all-embracing. Whether this invitation was at the instance of the senators or not, I may not be able to clarify. For some reasons, it was extended to us. I think that if it was at the instance of the senators which grew from their executive session over security concerns in the country, then it should be seen as an attempt to kill two birds with one stone. If it was at the instance of the senators, the president may have decided, ‘let us all meet’, because, indeed, the issue of security has also been discussed at the House. The first motion of the seventh House of Representatives was moved by me and was entitled, “Emerging Threat to Internal Security and the Need for Establishment of the Department of Homeland Security in Nigeria.” It was modeled after the United States. The same challenge, the point at which America got in 2002, when President George Bush Jnr needed to frontally take on the issue of internal security as a result of the upsurge in global terrorism, we have also reached that point. And members also felt that these are some of the issues that we need to see and resolve. That bill is in the pipeline in the House of Representatives and maybe the president must have said whatever we discuss on how to increase our security infrastructure, the House of Representatives must be carried along. At the end of that meeting, what impression did you come out with on the state of the country? Without wanting to divulge what happened, when the meeting started, Mr. President spoke to us about deregulation and then the thrust of his 2012 budget. The issue of subsidy removal, as it has turned out, is one of the planks of the 2012 budget. He wanted to have a soft landing for that because the National Assembly is the hurdle he must cross in his pursuit of this policy. There were mixed reactions. The way it was received would not be satisfying to the president. I am sure he would not have been satisfied with the reactions he got. Don’t forget that the National Assembly is the last gate keeping post for Nigeria and, if anything slides at this point, then we may be imperiled. We may begin to say that the horse is out of the stable and so we are in trouble. We made that very,very clear, especially members of the House of Representatives. We made it clear to the president that we must be very careful on that issue and that it was something that we would take more time to discuss, not one to be exhausted within one hour that the meeting lasted. But beyond that, Mr. President used the opportunity to address what the Senate President raised about the security of the nation. He wanted the president to address the issue at that meeting. He tried to acquaint the parliamentarians with what he is trying to do. He went to into the historical trajectory of violent crimes in Nigeria. He spoke about the Niger Delta and the pogrom there, he dovetailed into the Boko Haram issue. I think he is reasonably convinced that his government is trying to deal with it. To me, he can still do a little bit more. Encountering the president at this level, and given the reasons he gave for his planned removal of fuel subsidy, how convincing were they? Mr. President did not sufficiently convince me or my other colleagues in the House of Representatives. I don’t want to be graphic on what happened there but I am telling you that it was a faux pax. I don’t think he achieved any purpose. I don’t think he moved the story forward. I would say that his reasons did not appeal to members of the House of Representatives. He tried to say and, indeed, make it clear to us that if he does not take out the subsidy, Nigeria will go down. In his own words, Nigeria will crash. I don’t think that was the right thing to say but I believe very strongly that the nobility of the intentions of Mr. President may not be questionable. Like he said, it is not about Goodluck Jonathan, it is about Nigeria. We are on the same page on that score. The truth of the matter, however, is that there are so many ways that lead to the market. (I said something on my posting to this thread "There are always several paths that leads to a stream" ![]() His strongest argument was that it was becoming difficult to sustain the high subsidy regime on fuel products. He said if we go on this way, Nigeria will be in deep trouble. His words: ‘Nigeria will crash’. The truth of the matter is that we need more money, but there are many ancilliary issues that will need to be sorted out. Removal of subsidy is not an isolated event. This is an economy that is mono- product and driven by the same product, we would expect that anything that happens to this product will resonate across the length and breadth of the country. What the president did was all rationalization. He said the guys who move the product to the market don’t actually use PMS, that they use diesel. This is simplistic rationalization. He also tried to say that the subsidy we are talking about does not profit Nigerians but a pocket of cartel in the industry. And people immediately rose up to say, ‘Mr. President, why are you saying this? If it is a cartel, you crack it’. Abdul Ningi, I remember, said it clearly that he was the most powerful president in the black world, and that is the truth. And if we are confronted by a cabal or cartel, then it is about time we deal with the issue decisively. And, today, we are trying to give this reason for taking such a decision that will affect the masses of our people. He also tried to talk about the issue of bunkering, that it was also being resolved and all of that. People also said, ‘ okay, if you take out the subsidy, what becomes of the amount of money you may eventually raise?’. He tried to tell us that there was a committee headed by the vice president and that they were working on what will be committed from the revenue from the removal of subsidy and that they had gone eighty percent and all that. To me, that is not sufficient to begin to push this idea of removal of subsidy. The strongest of the arguments is pure simplistic and rationalization. Issues like the removal of subsidy must have cogent, articulate, verifiable, clear cut arguments for and against. You must be able to say, ‘ Yes, if you do this, we gain this and that’. Abdul Ningi tried to raise the political and security consequences of the push particularly at a time when you have the Arab spring and all that. Removal of subsidy should not be left in the realms of conjecture and simplistic rationalization. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by kinguwem: 5:01pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
Nigeria needs a humble, bold and sincere leader. GEJ has demonstrated that. If the late Yar'Adua did not reverse the privatization of the refineries by OBJ based on sentiments, we wouldn't be faced with these problems today. The legislators and some politicians are the greatest problem of this nation. They want the country to incur debt but they are not ready to cut down their jumbo pay. Why are they rejecting the removal of fuel subsidy? Are some of them beneficiaries of the subsidy? All the states that are dependent on monthly allocations should develop resources in their areas to generate revenue. Some state governors are wasting money on carnivals, settlement of aged politicians and rigging of elections. Most of them are not interested in agriculture and rural development, human development nor long term investments. How many refineries did General Gowon build? He shouldn't be talking about deregulation. He did not lay a good foundation for the economic development of this country. I don't want the future of my children to be mortgaged in debt. Most of the politicians that are against the removal of subsidy are insincere. Lets be objective and patriotic. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by worm(f): 5:11pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
I asked GEJ how far with the fuel subsidy. This is what he told me: ![]()
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Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by dmainboss: 7:46pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
@Lanre_post I will like to ask a very simple question, while ignoring your side talk about who I am because it adds nothing to the argument. In the US and Europe where their economies have come crashing down, do they not have hundreds of eminent professors of economics who are ten times more qualified than Pat Utomi? I ask this because you seem to have taken a stand that what Pat Utomi says is the be all and end all of economics and should be the bible of the government. And if they have and these economists are employed in the various government agencies, why are their economies still going into recession? Please respond. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by lanrefront1(m): 11:24pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
dmainboss: What are u talking about? Stop attributing to me what I've not said or implied. Infact you are saying the exact contradiction what I've said. I was saying the entire rest of professional and technical experts that should be in the know can't all be wrong and only the ones in employ/service of goverment can see the light. I only cited & posted Proff. Pat Utomi (and two others) as one of these numerous people. For clarity, this is the relevant extract of my post: {{ Is it that u guys close your brain to every other arguement of public & informed personalities made available on this thread and several others and just choose you must swallow line hook and sinker whatever comes out of the mouth of the President and his officials? Do they possess some monopoly of knowledge which is inacessible to any other person? Do goverment officials (economist, bankers etc) once appointed to their portfolios suddenly develop exra brain- cells which empowers them to understand phenomenon which their entire rest of expert colleagues cannot comprehend How come their presentaions, submissions, persuations, arguements on the subsidy-removal matter is not acceptable to almost all other professionals who should be in the know, have intergrity and can be trusted? Or are we saying Ngozi-Iweala, Madieson, etc. are the only people who and can understand and comprehend? }} Then your analogy of Europe and US and them having plenty of economists and the counrty failing is nonsensical: has no head or tail. Are yoy saying eminent economist & financial experts shouldn't be listened to? Because that will also include Ngozi-Iweala, Mandisean and all the rest of goverment officials. I think not. And if we must listen to them, while at it, why should we ignore all the rest and what they have to say. There are numerous Nigerian energy & petroleum experts in Nigeria and US who have lent their knowlegde and experise to analysis of the dileama; and beleive me they are making a lot of sense. Dr. Tam David-West is another example, a former Petroleum Minister. So many issues has been raised which must be addressed. The President cannot expect these serious and thorny issues to just be swept under the carpet. What is this insane hurry? The National Assembly say this is something that cannot be rushed. The President seems absolutely uninterested in seeking truth at all. People, make no mistake about it, this is all about protecting the biggest vested interest of the PDP, the "goose which lays the golden eggs": the billions-of-dollars-making fuel-importation business; to sustain it or make it last as long as possible while they strategise how to shift the "billions-of -dollar-making" from the endangered fuel importation to the refining of crude-oil and selling it to us at International price. You know someone has raised the question, the goverment has been completely silent on what happens once the nation start refining locally all of our petroleum consumption demand. Experts are expecting goverment to say something like: once we start refining all our PMS needs locally, then the price of PMS will go back down to N65(or even lower). No, no, no; once through the instrumentalty of the NNPC & power of incumbency, the local refiniment of our pertoleum consumption demand is transfered to the former fuel-importers (CABAL), they continue selling to the country at International price. The PDP goverment will simply see no need to bring down the price again. Is there anyone who does not know that in this country, so far as we know, when prices go up, they don't come down again. I remember GBAWE did day that it was unbeleivable that GEJ will put the now almost universally acknowledged corrupt NNPC currently under investigation, in charge of getting the 4 refineries to work and acquring all the new ones that should come up. So like I said, wise guys in the house, do the arithmetic and the brainstorming, the so much dileama and travails of Jonathan and the "others" is to at all cost preserve this PDP's "goose that lays the golden eggs". They believe beyond anything you can imagine that it is imperative to their political survival. Afterall, the biggest powers of PDP is icumbency and vast financial muscles. Money has a lot to do with GEJ's electoral victory. Take note that it is impossible for PMS price to be increased to Inernation price after the refineries must be fully working. So PMS prices has to be increased now, so that it will continue selling at that price even after the refinires would have started fully working. Unless it's done in this order, that margin, which amasses to billions of dollars, the golden goose will be forever lost to the PDP. Call me crazy? Well that's my take on the matter, |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by Beaf: 11:51pm On Dec 19, 2011 |
^ Who do you think is interested in reading long rambling stuff that is neither here nor there? Keep it brief, its not like there is any kernel of knowledge up there anyway. Abi you just wan mek we tire? |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by lanrefront1(m): 12:11am On Dec 20, 2011 |
Why is Jonathan so bent on this help he wants to provide for the people; this help they have said they do not want. Is it because he loves Nigeria so sp much that he must help them by force? When you see traviling so much to offer help by force the way Jonathanis bent on doing, then u should know there must be something pushing him; more to it than meets the eye. Opposition to fuel subsidy removal rises Posted by Information Nigeria in Home » Uncategorized on December 19, 2011 THE days roll by. It is countdown to January 1, 2012. With a certain frenzy, the Federal Government reiterates its resolve to remove oil subsidy on that date. But will it be a smooth sail? The opposition groups do not think so. They are refining their measures to counter the government’s position. The Conference of Nigerian Political Parties (CNPP), civil society organisations (CSOs) and the vice presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC) in the last general elections, Pastor Tunde Bakare, were among those who at the weekend expressed their resistance to the fuel subsidy removal. The statement of the CNPP and civil groups at a meeting on Saturday night in Abuja, which was made available to The Guardian by the Secretary to CNPP, Osita Okechukwu, noted that the stakeholders would not hesitate to take to the street if government is adamant that the fuel subsidy should not be removed. “Don’t push us to the street; for we went to the street to make you president and would not like to go to the street to remove you as president!,” the document warned. While calling on Nigerians to join “the Mother of Mass Actions,” Okechukwu said that the CNPP and the CSOs would work in league with the Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC) and Trade Union Congress (TUC). The statement titled: “Fuel subsidy: Seven-point charter to President Jonathan,” requested that new refinerie s be built. “We are saying build new refineries; for if you don’t have confidence that Nigerians can manage refineries, we don’t have confidence that you can manage the withdrawal proceeds. Stop the rampant corruption in fuel importation; before removing the fuel subsidy! If you can’t stop rampant corruption in fuel importation; you cannot guarantee the proceeds to be withdrawn,” he said. According to the document, the removal of fuel subsidy is a road Nigerians have passed severally since 1978 and unfortunately, all promises made were broken while the pains of serial removal of fuel subsidy have remained permanent. Explaining why Nigerians should resist the move at a press conference in Lagos yesterday, Bakare said successive governments had failed to explain why the refineries had remained incapacitated despite the huge investments over the years in Turn Around Maintenance (TAM). Bakare also wondered why NNPC had to leave its own storage facilities unused and proceed to incur additional costs from leasing third party storage facilities. According to him, the owners of these third party facilities are not faceless people, “they are part of the cartel siphoning the resources of our nation.” He further noted that the Federal Government had failed to tell the whole truth surrounding the matter as “each time it trumpets and blows its propaganda machinery that the N65 per litre we pay for petrol is the lowest in the world. Ours is the highest if we compare the price here to other oil producing nations.” Bakare warned that if the country ever allowed the removal of fuel subsidy, “Nigerians will be made to pay for the ineptitude of their leaders and the kleptomania of government functionaries. ” But rather than castigate President Goodluck Jonathan for the decision of his administration to remove oil subsidy, former Defence Minister Tokunbo Kayode said Nigerians should praise the president for his courage to take the step. Kayode, who stated this in his Ikaram- Akoko, Ondo State country home at the weekend said successive governments in Nigeria knew the desirability of the removal of fuel subsidy but lacked the political will to implement it. According to the former member of the Federal Executive Council (FEC) who spoke during his inauguration as the Baba Ijo of his local congregation, St. James’ Anglican Church, the decision being taken by Dr. Jonathan was sealed during the administration of the late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua. Kayode, who was in charge of the Ministry of Labour and Productivity when the controversial decision was taken in 2009 by the cabinet of President Yar’Adua, said the administration lacked the courage to go through the process of implementation. On its part, the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) in Osun State has called on the National Assembly to save the nation from an unwarranted crisis by prevailing on Jonathan and his economic team to shelve the plan for fuel subsidy removal. The party said the widespread poverty, unemployment and insecurity in the country might be aggravated if the Federal Government removed fuel subsidy. The party also blamed the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP)-led Federal Government of President Jonathan for his stand on the matter despite the outcry of Nigerians against the action, warning that the authorities should be prepared to take full responsibility for the outcome of the subsidy removal. Speaking at an interactive session with journalists in Osogbo, the state capital, the ACN Director of Research and Strategy in the state, Mr. Kunle Oyatomi, expressed worry that the Presidency was yet to have a rethink about the unpopular policy despite outcry against it by Nigerians. Describing the fuel subsidy removal as anti-people policy by the PDP-led Federal Government, the party urged the National Assembly to stand by the citizens by ensuring that President Jonathan and his economic team do not succeed in inflicting unbearable burden on the already pauperised populace. Besides, a member of the Upper Chamber of the National Assembly, Senator Jide Omoworare has accused the Federal Government of insincerity in the management of refineries, saying refusal to build new refineries informed the proposal for fuel subsidy removal. Omoworare, representing Osun East Senatorial District therefore called for a state of emergency in the nation’s oil sector to enable the government to embark on aggressive measures to build more refineries in different locations to increase availability of petroleum locally. The ACN lawmaker spoke at the weekend in Ile-Ife, Osun State after he gave certificate of recognition to some cooperative societies to enable them to access bank loan facilities to enhance their businesses. He dismissed the argument for fuel subsidy removal as a capitalist agenda aimed at causing dislocation in the economy, adding that the proposal was a way of shifting the high cost of fuel importation by a few rich elements to the masses. According to him, instead of fuel subsidy removal, which would increase the suffering of Nigerians, the Federal Government should declare an emergency in the building of refineries across the country. informationnigeria.org/2011/12/opposition-to-fuel-subsidy-removal-rises.html |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by bigcycs: 12:38am On Dec 20, 2011 |
@beaf, I will like to follow you on twitter, there is somebody I will like you to meet. He also has very keen interest in the socio economical well being of nigeria. I'll leave the rest for twitter land Kindly follow me on @unclecycs or the said friend of mine on,@ekekeee or kindle let me have ur twitter userID . Looking forward!!! |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by balewa88: 1:05am On Dec 20, 2011 |
bigcycs: People claim BEAF is @renoomokri but he has vehemently denied it. Others have also denied that he is @renoomokri |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by Beaf: 1:12am On Dec 20, 2011 |
balewa88: That is correct. Thanks. @bigcycs Thanks for the kind words, unfortunately, I don't use tweeter; if its Reno Omokri you are after, I'm not him also. If you still wish to linkup on the web, we can sort something. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by dmainboss: 1:15am On Dec 20, 2011 |
@Lanre_front First you posted that long post which I dont have the time to read. I am not jobless. secondly, it is amazing how you cannot answer a simple question. Thirdly I also want to ask why ACN as a party rejects removal of subsidy while the ACN governors all endorsed it. Something tells me its the hand of Esau and the voice of Jacob at work. Its also hypocrisy and deceit at its worst. Very sad. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by bigcycs: 8:03am On Dec 20, 2011 |
@beaf; Okay ,what do you have in mind, ! |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by lanrefront1(m): 9:14am On Dec 20, 2011 |
@ Beaf/dmainboss Looking at the amount of post and replies you make on Nairaland; the amount of time u spend making PR and arguements for GEJ, I'll say you probably spend more time than everybody else on Nairaland. I beleive I already answered your nonsesical question. I say "nonsensical" because it's bereft of logic and only a ploy to get the other person on the defensive. On the other hand, u are the expert at not answering (dodging) simple questions. I have asked u: explain how subsidy removal will put a stop to "the few Nigerians" as u have campeigned so viciously' from feeding fat? Concerning your "ACN" question, any knowledable person knows, inspite of whatever party affiliations they may have, governors are a tribe of their own and the only language they understand is "money" & "more money". Do u know they are already engaing the FG in a fight as to their share of funds accrueing from subsidy removal will be? I wonder, is it Jonthan or Iweala this will monitor how the shamelessly corrupt 36 governors spend the money? Having said this, who the hell cares whether the ACN is suffering from policy-scizophrenia, thereby sending out mixed signals. This not an ACN vs PDP problem. It's the people vs their wicked goverment, or PDP if u like, since that party froms the present goverment. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by 1025: 9:39am On Dec 20, 2011 |
fuel subsidy must go and corruption must stay. jonathan, u will not get away with this. you have turned blind eyes and deaf ears to the menace of corruption and stealing of public funds by your wife and members of your cabinets but the only benefit nigerians get from the large and numerous mineral resources God blessed us with. God will surely bring you to justice. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by Nobody: 9:41am On Dec 20, 2011 |
lanre_front: where are u coming from? simple things you dont understand, abeg go back to school and stop bring nigeria back ok!!!! |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by olajide8(m): 10:38am On Dec 20, 2011 |
With due respect to the office of nigerias president, the argument holds no weight I think his advisers have forgotten to tell him the economy is a viscous circle which can't be easily broken petrol affects the woman that grinds pepper that these bus drivers would eat while going to ferry these food items they would enter transport to trhe market within the areas where they live their children would enter public buses which are powered by the same fuel so also their teachers, in the end this would be transferred to the school fees parents pay, as a result they would have to source for this money and increase the salaries of the teachers and this is just one sector of the micro-economy and the direct effect it would have its just unexplainable, the overheads on recurrent and over invoicing is stinking and filled with corruption the whole civil servants in ministries and parastals jointly connive from the lowest ranking officer to the chief accounting officer to over invoice and steal both from the contractors and from government these are the loop wholes were funds are wrongly channelled the civil service size is to big the ministries are too many mis-prioritization of policies are high e.g we are supposed to be thinking of blocking the waste in works, defence, water resources, fct, national planning commission, health, education, agriculture a repositioning of our general policy direction which would become more encompassing and acceptable to all such that when power is transferred their is a continuty, in policy implementation and execution, no more abandoned projects et al. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by olajide8(m): 11:09am On Dec 20, 2011 |
I had to make this extra contribution when I noticed one of beafs other posts that he made reference to the whole team of adviser telling jonathan that that was the way to go so maybe this statement may not be in line but it takes a genius to standout from the cloud it takes people with special talent to think beyond what some Prof., and Dr of economics would say to get unique answers e.g when the world bank was telling nigerians to embrace structural adjustment they (foreign countries) were pump doing the opposite pumping money into their industries and encouraging export of human capacity so why must you think a few people that are economist should be so good at determining human nature and a few formulars would be the solution to complex issues which form the economy. |
Re: Why Fuel Subsidy Must Go Now, By Jonathan by londoner: 11:43am On Dec 20, 2011 |
^^^^ If the trillions reported to be spent by FG on fuel subsidy are correct, then it is being poured into a hole every time it is being paid. Compare Nigeria/ns with citizens and taxpayers in other countries for a moment. "Olajide, The woman you say grinds pepper, after selling her pepper, how much tax does she pay that goes back into the economy? The bus drivers who eat the pepper and collect fares from passengers in Naira notes, how much tax do they pay back into the coffers? Those children that then go to school and graduate and begin earning how much tax do they pay? It is only one way and it is an undue burden. In the UK, even if you work 50hrs in a week, before you see one penny, you would have paid taxes. When the financial crisis happened, they had to turn to the taxpayer, other countries in Europe had to turn to other nations full of taxpayers. If these countries had operated the "one way cycle" like Nigeria has been, where would they be now? Nigerians have become a burden to Nigeria and they should seek to redress the balance. If the president is getting opposition and backlash from the fat cat politicians who have been bending you over as a citizen thus far, then what he is proposing is probably for your own good. These people are not suddenly overcome with compassion and concern for you, if this is bad for them, then its probably good for you. They should also be made to cut their expenses, but let everybody add their quota, |
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