Nchara:

Yes Mbaise is more than 300K, the most populous area of Imo state. Could be up to 1 ml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbaise

Nchara:

If you live in Ojoo which is part of the Ibadan city metropolis, you will have to drive to Dugbe axis to get to a bank, no? Same for those living in areas around Akobo etc. How convenient is that? As far as I know in Enugu metropolis there is no place you will drive 5 miles before you see a shop, etc. Not sure what you are driving at here.

GAR3TH:

Not sure were Ojoo is but if you have to drive to Dubge ( by train station) to got to a bank then it must mean your coming from the outskirts of the city, Hence the suburbs of ibadan.

What I was Driving at is a city is largely dense regardless of its population. That there are more people living in a giving area than a town. Since its largely dense you see more people, services, businesses and more homes per mile. Enugu and Abuja are considered cities by FG and states gov but in the mindset of people Abuja and Enugu will be considered urban sprawls.

Abagworo:

Enugu is more of a city to me than Ibadan going by the quality of infrastructure. A cluster of houses and over population does not make a city. But both of them lack the high rises that give me the city feel. I feel happy driving around Lagos Island and Abuja. It gives me hope of a better Nigeria.

GAR3TH:

Not sure were Ojoo is but if you have to drive to Dubge ( by train station) to got to a bank then it must mean your coming from the outskirts of the city, Hence the suburbs of ibadan.

What I was Driving at is a city is largely dense regardless of its population. That there are more people living in a giving area than a town. Since its largely dense you see more people, services, businesses and more homes per mile. Enugu and Abuja are considered cities by FG and states gov but in the mindset of people Abuja and Enugu will be considered urban sprawls.

Nchara:

Ojoo is in the city just a couple blocks from U.I. There is no train station. You ride the bus, your car or an Okada.

Who are these people considering Enugu and Abuja as urban sprawls?

From indications (and I have searche quite a bit), each govt defines what places are considered cities in its country. In that case many places in Nigeria will be cities.
The points I put up earlier are my own definition
For me, a 50K population plus the other factors I mentioned suffices for a city.

I live in a place of about 50K people. This place has 10 banks, 50 industries that employ a minimum of 20 persons, one university, two post offices, one airport, no skyscrappers (tallest building will be no more than 6 storey), sparsely populated that you have to drive at least 2 miles to get to some shops. Yet, if I post the photo of this place, you will have a feel of what a city should look like (apologies to Abagworo). The US govt lists the place as a city and in one of the recent years, it was one of the best cities to live in in the USA. Are they wrong?

GAR3TH:

There is no real definition to what a city is, for example the smallest city in NY State is Sherrill with a population of 3,000 people while at the same time the largest town in New York state is The town of Hempstead with a population of 760,000. Like I said before cities and towns are defined by administrations like the case in NY or by people's common knowledge and perception.

According to the state of NY sherrill is a city but according to me and others sherill will be consider a town through our perception of what a town should be. So yes, Nigeria and it states may consider Enugu a city but many people will consider Enugu a large town. It doesn't look, act, feel or have the same flow as what we expect from a city. Compared to Kano, Kaduna, Benin, PH, Ibadan and Lagos, Enugu and even abuja would be considered suburban sprawls.

Like I said any administrative settlement can be called a city [/b]but [b]People refer to them as hamlets, towns, villages or cities. You cant look me in the eye and call yenagoa, Dutse, Abakaliki or Osogbo cities. A town of 9 people can be called a city, but is it really a city? no, you can not sit there and tell me a capital with 9 people is a city. People will refer to it as a town/ village.

jason123:

Nchara, what is your definition of a city and please give examples of cities in Nigeria that fulfill your criteria of a city.

GAR3TH:

Isn't that what I said earlier, We basically went full circle. vvv

Nchara:

Precisely why I ask you who are those people considering Enugu and Abuja mere urban sprawls.

GAR3TH:

\Its common sense bro. . .

Known Urban sprawls of Clark County, Nevada, USA

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Abuja



Urban Sprawl of St. George, Utah



Abuja

You keep contradicting yourself. You and I have agreed that the definition is based on the country. Nigerian feds and 99% of Nigerians define Abuja and Enugu as cities. The rest na waste of time, sorry.

manny4life:

But Enugu isn't a city so is Abuja, please that is wrong mentality,

jason123:

Apart from that, how can someone name Enugu in the same sentence as Abuja?

9jaganja:

Aba is a commercial hub!! And all commercial hubs are cities,

aribisala0:

REALLY

the word city is little to do with development and more to do with population and in that regard the OP poster is in error.
There is no universally accepted definition of what a city is but generally population size is the key thing

dayokanu:

Someone said he needs to go from Ojoo to Dugbe to get a bank?

Are you serious? The only bank you wont see in 5mile radius of Ojoo is Central Bank

If you dont know something just say it.

I have only been to Enugu once and my trip was limited to ANAMCO plant and Nike Lake.

I wont claim I know Enugu based on that short visit

dayokanu:

You said Afribank is in UI which is not far from Ojoo, also banks in Agbowo and Bodija yet in the earlier post you said you need to get to Dugbe to get a bank, which one should we believe now?

I know UI which isnt far from Ojoo would have more than one bank serving it

dayokanu:

FCMB, Access, FinBank, Intercontinental and many banks are in that Ojoo area,

Ojoo is a market area and you claim all these banks are none existent there? How dishonest can you be?

When was the last time you went to Ibadan and how many new generation banks were in Ibadan the last time you went there?

dayokanu:

Those were examples of banks in that area as at 2006/2007.

SO when did you make your own assesment? 1989?

Since you mentioned New generation banks that must mean you are talking about a period post 2005 post 25b consolidation