Very well articulated, practical is key.

ceejayluv:

You made good points though. I agree that a maintenance supervisor doesn't always require a degree - but to climb the career ladder i.e to Maintenance manager, up to technical Manager/ director, a higher education More often than not would be preferred.
It still boils down to lack of industrial exposure.... Fluid Mechanics, for example has great applications in aerospace, naval, automotive, hydroelectric sectors, etc. So a fresh graduate that "crams" Navier-Stokes applications would ideally have somewhere to gain and contribute practically (especially in R & D and Design ). But that's not the Case here.

Sheuns:
Why did you not choose the path of bricklaying and iron bending?

You have children and grandchildren. Start from them too.

I can tell you that brickalayers pass those graduate wey don build house

ivandragon:


All you have to do is state you are too lazy to do your own research and I will help you out. Admit your laziness for all to see so you can be helped.

that still leaves the questions unanswered.

is asking you the following not research? yes or no

since you have read these educational materials, I dont see anywhere in your comments that shows that you have a very good understanding and knowledge about how society works or is stratified.

can you share what you read in those educational materials?

ceejayluv:

You made good points though. I agree that a maintenance supervisor doesn't always require a degree - but to climb the career ladder i.e to Maintenance manager, up to technical Manager/ director, a higher education More often than not would be preferred.
It still boils down to lack of industrial exposure.... Fluid Mechanics, for example has great applications in aerospace, naval, automotive, hydroelectric sectors, etc. So a fresh graduate that "crams" Navier-Stokes applications would ideally have somewhere to gain and contribute practically (especially in R & D and Design ). But that's not the Case here.

True, to climb through the ranks the degrees/certs becomes relevant. Smart graduates can always gain experience if they're serious in the field. I don't know of companies involved in R & D except for the multinationals even though it used often by many companies. Feedback and suggestions are not R & D. Many of the Engineering companies have foreign technical partners or PhDs working for them. Point Engineering, Ponticelli, Candix, Precision and many others that I engaged.
To grow in the industry, you need to roll off your sleeves and get dirty. Once you gain the experience, you'll be in a position to contribute/critique designs.

lexy2014:


that still leaves the questions unanswered.

is asking you the following not research? yes or no

since you have read these educational materials, I dont see anywhere in your comments that shows that you have a very good understanding and knowledge about how society works or is stratified.

can you share what you read in those educational materials?

All you have to do is state you are too lazy to do your own research and I will help you out. Admit your laziness for all to see so you can be helped.

ivandragon:



All you have to do is state you are too lazy to do your own research and I will help you out. Admit your laziness for all to see so you can be helped.

that still leaves the questions unanswered.

is asking you the following not research? yes or no

since you have read these educational materials, I dont see anywhere in your comments that shows that you have a very good understanding and knowledge about how society works or is stratified.

can you share what you read in those educational materials?

TEYA:

ok. that's cool. I am 90% sure it is abandoned

Not abandoned

ivandragon:
That is a crude way of putting it, but Oshiomole is right. To industrialise, Nigeria needs more technical work force.

However, the socio-economic conditions and value system in nigeria does not give proper dignity and reward to such jobs, except on few occasions.

They are not adequately rewarded, their services are well appreciated elsewhere

ivandragon:
That is a crude way of putting it, but Oshiomole is right. To industrialise, Nigeria needs more technical work force.

However, the socio-economic conditions and value system in nigeria does not give proper dignity and reward to such jobs, except on few occasions.

fmr governor obaseki was thinking in dt line

The govt has to pass a law making it compulsory for private secondary sch to start offering vocational subjects which is in the waec syllabus


Then there need for a third tertiary institutions which is vocational sch.

Eg vocational school for computer repair,mobile phone repair they partner with the manufacturer to help with creating a student friendly practical textbook nd also one to retrain the teachers nd guide them on awarding marks for exam nd text with such Nigeria youth will be better of

because bad education model ( theory model) is number one thing pushing Nigeria backwards

BlessedGift:
Adams Aliyu Oshiomhole as called for Artisans saying enough of University Graduates Seeking Public Sector jobs.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFFFcC-GyII

The same man will send his children abroad to university. As if those skills cannot be refined in institute of higher education.

Abi o, what a nation

Chibuezem:
The same man will send his children abroad to university. As if those skills cannot be refined in institute of higher education.

Oshomole is really a visionless leader, what he crying about are the gaps Obaseki forecasted into the future hence he decided to revamp technical schools in Edo state.
Just hearing Oshomole say this is really disheartening. His governor is going around dashing those dreams.

Kukutente23:

Correct. But do you think your job is scarce in Nigeria compared to design and manufacturing?

No not at all, it's actually also basically designing and manufacturing in the real essence.

Truth is majority of Nigerian graduate's and youths frown at most artisan job's, Yahoo(internet fraudsters) made it a whole different game with a harder stage

Oya you said you were going to connect me with a client

Baba bring food come make i chop oo

Ogaonos:
fmr governor obaseki was thinking in dt line

The govt has to pass a law making it compulsory for private secondary sch to start offering vocational subjects which is in the waec syllabus


Then there need for a third tertiary institutions which is vocational sch.

Eg vocational school for computer repair,mobile phone repair they partner with the manufacturer to help with creating a student friendly practical textbook nd also one to retrain the teachers nd guide them on awarding marks for exam nd text with such Nigeria youth will be better of

because bad education model ( theory model) is number one thing pushing Nigeria backwards

These are what the Asian's are doing

Murketeer:

lol if you know the population of artisans and bricklayers in Nigeria … work nor dey reach them ..

What if maybe they were not at the right location?

Realguyman1:
Do the Nigeria environment value artisans? Government establishments and 95 percent of companies in Nigeria don't have any regard or value for artisans.

Hmm this one is very deep 🤔🤔

...and very correct. They see artisans as cheap labour

skywalker240:

Hmm this one is very deep 🤔🤔

Kingosytex:


Bash him all you like, he spoke the raw truth.
It's high time we all talk about acquiring technical skills. Each year, graduates are released into the labour market where there are no jobs.

How many people retire every year? Compare the number of retirements with the number of graduates each year, you will understand the mess we are in.

Old men are stealing your future and you’re here defending them. You’re a goat

Sheuns:
Why did you not choose the path of bricklaying and iron bending?

You have children and grandchildren. Start from them too.

Are you comparing yourself with him? OK na continue looking for non existent jobs

skywalker240:

Hmm this one is very deep 🤔🤔

Yeah, I'm talking out of experience. Unless u are able to establish urself, or u are working in an organization whereby u can do illegal business and make more money, that's the only way u can enjoy being an artisan in Nigeria. But if u can't establish urself and u can't get an organization whereby u can do illegal things to make more money, u see that 95 percent companies in Nigeria ( most especially in Lagos and Ogun State), they will make u regret ur life why u ever took such step of being an artisans. The government establishments are even manageable because even if they don't pay artisans well, they don't put much work load on them and there are chances of any of them to grow higher in the work if he/she is a graduate.

MIKOLOWISKA:
Are you comparing yourself with him? OK na continue looking for non existent jobs

You get job for me?

Softmirror:


His son is only enjoying the fruit of his father's labour.

I can see Arc in your moniker lol. I hope you are not those types of architects who bricklayers control on site. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤥

ArcSEMPEC so many times has bricklayers on site corrected architects on site because what they have imagined and drawn on paper can't work on site.

A low life praising the son of another ....lols

Wish we can have a recommendation from you but we don't need to prove anything to you.....


You must have gone through the profile and realized you are the big fool but how to apologize became difficult and as a low life and like a man drowning, you decided to attack me ...lols

I won't disclose my profile to you, before you start worshipping and praising me ..

You need serious rehabilitation anyways, I wish you well...

Stayingalive:

Old men are stealing your future and you’re here defending them. You’re a goat

Your stupidity and senseless reeks to the sky.
Useless thing.

Edojoma:
It is profitable to keep quiet most times about things u really don't understand than to display ur ignorance and dance naked in the market. If he really knows how true educational system is suppose to be, he wouldn't av displayed this level of ignorance. With this, we now why dey appoint dumbass niggas into important positions. I won't be surprise if he appoints a bricklayer as a project manager in construction firm.

WELL HE JUST MADE A DUMBO AS GOVERNOR. SO, I GUESS, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE IN HIS EYES.

ivandragon:


Lol.

People like Zuckerberg, Stanford, Rupert, Job, Branson, Gates, Madura and hundreds of other billionaire industrialists that don't have university degrees already prove that you are the one who teaches hearsay.

MOST OF THEM WERE COLLEGE (IE UNIVERSITY) DROPOUTS. IN OTHER WORDS THEY LEFT SCHOOL IN ORDER TO FULLY DEVELOP THE 'LIGHT BULB' IDEAS THEY GOT AS UNDERGRADS. SO WHILE IT'S PROBABLE TRUE THAT THERE ARE ONE OR TWO ARTISANS WHO MAY HAVE MADE AN IMPACT IN INNOVATION AND INVENTION THEY ARE EXCEPTIONS RATHER THAN THE NORM.

africanusvu:
Though a very bitter truth, we have been producing numerous unemployable graduates recently in this nation, engineers who can't loosen a nut, Doctors who can't even give first aid, lawyers who turned to cab drivers etc

JUST AS WE HAVE BEEN 'ELECTING' LEADERS WHOSE INTELLECTUAL AND PRODUCTIVITY QUOTIENTS HAVE LONG CEASED TO BE RELEVANT.

Oshiomole is right on this, I think, though he is a bad political leader.

ivandragon:


You are the one making a mountain out of a molehill.

My comment was clear for those with sound reasoning.

Yes your comment was clear but not really meaningful or impactful. If your argument is about the clarity of your comment, I give it to you, it was very clear
And you need to stop being defensive

tctrills:

Yes your comment was clear but not really meaningful or impactful. If your argument is about the clarity of your comment, I give it to you, it was very clear
And you need to stop being defensive

It was not meaningful or impactful to you because you you already had a preconceived notion or opinion, which you are entitled to. You need to stop trying to throw your weight around when you cannot grasp or understand a comment.

naijaman2225:

MOST OF THEM WERE COLLEGE (IE UNIVERSITY) DROPOUTS. IN OTHER WORDS THEY LEFT SCHOOL IN ORDER TO FULLY DEVELOP THE 'LIGHT BULB' IDEAS THEY GOT AS UNDERGRADS. SO WHILE IT'S PROBABLE TRUE THAT THERE ARE ONE OR TWO ARTISANS WHO MAY HAVE MADE AN IMPACT IN INNOVATION AND INVENTION THEY ARE EXCEPTIONS RATHER THAN THE NORM.

It is important to understand the context of an ongoing discussion before you make input. Something led to that statement which I had to further clarify to the person that he was digressing.

That something is not the norm does not make it relevant or applicable.

femi4:
They are not adequately rewarded, their services are well appreciated elsewhere

That is the point I am making.

Ogaonos:
fmr governor obaseki was thinking in dt line

The govt has to pass a law making it compulsory for private secondary sch to start offering vocational subjects which is in the waec syllabus


Then there need for a third tertiary institutions which is vocational sch.

Eg vocational school for computer repair,mobile phone repair they partner with the manufacturer to help with creating a student friendly practical textbook nd also one to retrain the teachers nd guide them on awarding marks for exam nd text with such Nigeria youth will be better of

because bad education model ( theory model) is number one thing pushing Nigeria backwards

Yes.

In fact most universities now incorporate vocational students in their curriculum. In Polytechnics, it is compulsory and they have centres dedicated to instructing on vocational studies and skills development.