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givedemwotowoto:
You’re joining BRICS to rival and weaken USA abi? Oya go and collect your healthcare funding from China and Russia without them first taking your sovereignty as collateral.

Go to city centers in many parts of the country, there are free maternity and healthcare services for women and children in many instances, how much of that is funded by FG?

Common sense should be common.

How would Nigeria not join Brics when someone is afraid of his forfeiture profile with US. The name Chicago bagman doesn't sound as joke to Trump and no one knows what's install for the owner of the identity

So America have been doing father Christmas for countries who have what it takes to provide such funding for their citizens!

You guys have no clue what’s happening.

Trump doesn’t want affordable healthcare for Americans. Biden signed a bill to make diabetic medication $35 for old people on Medicare. Trump has just signed a bill to override. Republicans have always stood against the affordable care act that gave low income people access to health insurance.

Trump wants to cut down every single expense that helps anyone who is low income in or out of America and give it to his billionaire friends in subsidies and tax cuts.

You guys are so misinformed it’s heartbreaking to see you actually believe this

hosemujica:


If you look carefully , all Trump is asking is that citizens of every nation to hold their leaders accountable: be it Colombia, Mexico, Nicaragua or Nigeria. The tribe, race or gender of the president is not important here.

Mind you there are many poor Americans that donut have quality healthcare and Trump is saying that’s where his priority is .

deolu2000:
Very good development. What's the essence of aid that is only aiding bank account of politicians and leaving those who are in need of these ARVD without them.

Do you know with HIV Who can’t get meds?

Not only will spread, it Will mutate. Then the medication that other countries have to fight it will become ineffective against the new strains. Those strains can then enter the USA and infect people here. Even though we have the meds, it will be useless to us

This is what happens when you people support brainless bullies to get to power. They don’t stop to think of the after. They just go on emotional destructive behavior like a bull in a glass store.

chopnaira:
The rate at which that virus would spread in Nigeria and other 3rd world countries the next 4 years or so would be extremely high since those drugs bring down viral count which stops transmission.

Once you remove the drugs, carriers can now easily infect others.

If you know fit hold body, use condoms ooo.

Trump will be knocking senses into people's heads.

JuanDeDios:

This reminds me of a conversation between a rich doctor and poor guy during the campaign.
Poor guy: Trump will lower my taxes.
Rich doctor: No, you idiot. He will lower MY taxes and cut YOUR benefits.

Trump is not even prioritizing citizens. Well, not poor citizens. Something else is going on. Note he's been targeting the Affordable Care Act (which they call "Obama Care" ) since his first term. He's simply taking and taking from the vulnerable, starting with the vulnerable of America.

Yes, giving is the prerogative of the giver. It's not obligatory. You choose what to do with what you own and no legal argument can be made against you. However, we can and will always make a moral argument. That is why, sometimes when some Americans go on and on and about how they're the biggest contributor to global agencies, they are reminded that some other countries contribute far more than them by PROPORTION. I don't know if you're rich, but does not being rich and having problems of your own mean you don't assist poorer relatives, friends or church members? That's how it is.

Trump is less than a month in power. You and I would have to patiently wait to observe the ripples of his decisions before we conclude whether he is worsening the situation of poor Americans.

Giving remains an act of benevolence, not obligation. Glad we both agree on this. Any day my helper decides not to help me any further, rather than cast blames at him, I'd thank him for the years he has helped me, and probably hate myself for not working my way out of a being in need of his aid.

And, no, I am not rich; whether I help others or not is far from our current discussion. And while we are making moral arguments out of a giver's decision to discontinue in his act of benevolence, we should note that we would be found guilty in the same moral compass - feeling entitled doesn't sound like a good moral endeavour.

About the proportion narrative, you are perfectly correct here...it's biblical, as a matter of fact. But let's look at effects, outcomes, or impacts. If by the law of proportion America gives way more than others, this still proves the fact that they are mostly responsible for the positive outcomes end-countries experience; so, they still do more work. By the way, if we go the proportion way, shouldn't China (to be fair, let's not consider India) be a bigger/better giver?

As I see it, quoting morality is an attempt to emotionally blackmail Trump and his country, and this is entirely unfair. I still maintain that for the years of good America has done, they should be forever appreciated....even if they decide to re-strategize their expenditure with hopes of prioritizing their citizens.

EmperorCaesar:


Yes, it will definitely help me.

No Country grows with negativist citizens.

Your other point is null. Do you know how costly HIV drugs and medications are? Do you know there are over 2million Nigerians getting aided by this funding?

So, you'd rather they all struggle and perish just because the institution is supposedly corrupt?

See thinking

Na fooools full this country

Ekejoestar:
In three months time, most of those who supported and voted Trump are going to be full of regrets

why because funding such thing in Nigeria will impact Nigerians or just political holders

cococandy:
You guys have no clue what’s happening.

Trump doesn’t want affordable healthcare for Americans. Biden signed a bill to make diabetic medication $35 for old people on Medicare. Trump has just signed a bill to override. Republicans have always stood against the affordable care act that gave low income people access to health insurance.

Trump wants to cut down every single expense that helps anyone who is low income in or out of America and give it to his billionaire friends in subsidies and tax cuts.

You guys are so misinformed it’s heartbreaking to see you actually believe this

If this was the case, how come Americans, up to 63% electoral votes went to him?

They wanted to spite the Kamala?
They didn't trust the Biden-Harris continuing administration?
They were blinded by the inflation last year, and assumed Trump would solve it despite this?
They hated Biden news carrying that he's aiding Israel?


Which was it?
You live in America? How come the Trump got massive votes despite this your claim, or they didn't know? I'm only curious.

I hope China can replicate what they did with "DeepSeek" for HIV drugs too. Nobody can tell me none of these Super powers already have the permanent cure for HIV at the moment.

He rigged it.

Democrats don’t want to talk about it because they don’t want to found like coo coo republicans who are known election deniers.

But he’s bragged about it and Elon has bragged about it.

The rest of those who ACTUALLY voted for him are ignorant. They’re crying now because they’re googling the meaning of what they voted and they want to reverse their votes.

All people like me have to do is sit and watch them learn. 🤷🏽‍♀️

OneOnland:

If this was the case, how come Americans, up to 63% electoral votes went to him?

They wanted to spite the Kamala?
They didn't trust the Biden-Harris continuing administration?
They were blinded by the inflation last year, and assumed Trump would solve it despite this?
They hated Biden news carrying that he's aiding Israel?


Which was it?
You live in America? How come the Trump got massive votes despite this your claim, or they didn't know? I'm only curious.

OneOnland:
Slowly slowly with this, countries would no longer have to respect the USA, and it'd just be like any other so-so European country, "dead", "buried", forgotten. Just another developed country with technology like Switzerland.

Perhaps with this, Americans' pride would lessen because America would no longer be known or a popular nation. Eww!

America is what it is not because of weapons, not even remotely because of dollars, but the respect that almost all countries in the world has for its big brother-ness and often gives its diplomats and everything freer passes. Talk about self-destruction. America needs more Donald Trump. 😅

i disagree, America is what it is because of advancement in technology plus what you said too , there is a balance there

OneOnland:

What is this one saying? Spanish flu killed millions of Spaniards, I guess their money finished in treating it. Speaking nonsense with confidence!

Lacking research for medicine ≠ free money from the US.

You just wrote nonsense anyways, check yourself. Perhaps you grew up in a bush where coherence is an abomination. Please, go away.

Spanish flu did not originate in Spain. It is a misleading name.

For this act, Trump should reverse that decree, the funding has being helpful almost all the people living with HIV who so wished to, had all benefited from this programme and it is working fine, even though there is serious corruption going on there, I know the reason why he want to halt the support for this programme.
Trump believed that a country like Nigeria is able to fund the programm to the fullest but couldn't care because they are getting help from America government, my advice to Trump is, he should strategies the programm instead of halting it, for the sake of precious lives in the developing countries, he should know that Nigeria government doesn't care who dies as far as it doesn't concerns them, off they don't care about safety and security of the citizens, talk less of people living with HIV, please Mr Trump reverse that decision please!!

Very good.This implies that NGOs in Nigeria who receive funding from US for HIV prevention and treatment will lay off and sack many of their employees. When some nigerians were rejoicing that Trump was re-elected,they don't know it will be at the own peril!!

This shows America have really been trying tho


But please continue saving lives


Even if it's to re strategize

TONYE001:


Trump is less than a month in power. You and I would have to patiently wait to observe the ripples of his decisions before we conclude whether he is worsening the situation of poor Americans.

Giving remains an act of benevolence, not obligation. Glad we both agree on this. Any day my helper decides not to help me any further, rather than cast blames at him, I'd thank him for the years he has helped me, and probably hate myself for not working my way out of a being in need of his aid.

And, no, I am not rich; whether I help others or not is far from our current discussion. And while we are making moral arguments out of a giver's decision to discontinue in his act of benevolence, we should note that we would be found guilty in the same moral compass - feeling entitled doesn't sound like a good moral endeavour.

About the proportion narrative, you are perfectly correct here...it's biblical, as a matter of fact. But let's look at effects, outcomes, or impacts. If by the law of proportion America gives way more than others, this still proves the fact that they are mostly responsible for the positive outcomes end-countries experience; so, they still do more work. By the way, if we go the proportion way, shouldn't China (to be fair, let's not consider India) be a bigger/better giver?

As I see it, quoting morality is an attempt to emotionally blackmail Trump and his country, and this is entirely unfair. I still maintain that for the years of good America has done, they should be forever appreciated....even if they decide to re-strategize their expenditure with hopes of prioritizing their citizens.

Trump’s policy thrust involves tax cuts and tariff hikes. The effect on the poor is fairly predictable. To expect otherwise is to HOPE. Which is fine.

China has made huge progress, but no, they’re still not nearly as rich as the US. But I agree they too are paying proportionally far less than they should be doing and the Americans are right to call them out.

There will always be people who, through no fault of theirs, are too weak to help themselves. That's why we make moral arguments. I hope you realise you can also easily be accused of using emotional blackmail to get people to ‘leave Trump alone’? Yes, the poor should hustle and stop being dependent. But we know it’s not that simple. You pray not to be poor, but the poor will always be here. I’ve actually taken time to listen to homeless people in rich countries – you’d be surprised what you hear. There are lazy people who are poor. But there are people who aren’t lazy, perfectly normal, hardworking people who are poor. Sometimes, all it takes is one or two tragedies away - kidney dialysis, glaucoma, a fire incident, and you're out in the streets.

Remember who we’re taking about here – sick people. The world is what it is.

The VESPA

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Very good.

smh

SalamRushdie:


If secession come to pass how does it help u? Most of the HIV grants are stolen by institutional fraudsters...Trump will bring sanity into the HIV sector by force so only those who need the aid get it

Same trump that is accused and convicted of fraud

LilMissFavvy:
Too bad. Population of HIV careers will increase, just watch out. Why do African men love $ex so much?. Some illiterates think the HIV statistics are fake in Africa, dig deep and you will know it's true. Just ask any health personal working in the hospital.

Trust me. They inflate figures to get funded. So, what do you call that real or fake?
No lie, how many persons you personally know wey get HIV?

SalamRushdie:
The Fraud in the Nigerian HIV sector was too much , too much padded numbers just for the purpose of corruption, most of the monies were stolen

While you are right, the problem with this cut is that it is going to make hiv care more and more expensive.

Trump is hurting millions of your countrymen and women and you are cheering for him.

Now we gotta learn the help US offers us with all our dirty and annoying lips insulting US and backing Russia and China.

May God help the patients

Are they really funding it in real sense ? Most of those funds ends up in the pocket of NGO masters ..

nairalanda1:


While you are right, the problem with this cut is that it is going to make hiv care more and more expensive.

Trump is hurting millions of your countrymen and women and you are cheering for him.

He said it's a 60 day pause

Olurondo:
Very good.This implies that NGOs in Nigeria who receive funding from US for HIV prevention and treatment will lay off and sack many of their employees. When some nigerians were rejoicing that Trump was re-elected,they don't know it will be at the own peril!!

Tell your politicians to make friend with US and not China and Russia that don't help you

JuanDeDios:


Trump’s policy thrust involves tax cuts and tariff hikes. The effect on the poor is fairly predictable. To expect otherwise is to HOPE. Which is fine.

China has made huge progress, but no, they’re still not nearly as rich as the US. But I agree they too are paying proportionally far less than they should be doing and the Americans are right to call them out.

There will always be people who, through no fault of theirs, are too weak to help themselves. That's why we make moral arguments. I hope you realise you can also easily be accused of using emotional blackmail to get people to ‘leave Trump alone’? Yes, the poor should hustle and stop being dependent. But we know it’s not that simple. You pray not to be poor, but the poor will always be here. I’ve actually taken time to listen to homeless people in rich countries – you’d be surprised what you hear. There are lazy people who are poor. But there are people who aren’t lazy, perfectly normal, hardworking people who are poor. Sometimes, all it takes is one or two tragedies away - kidney dialysis, glaucoma, a fire incident, and you're out in the streets.

Remember who we’re taking about here – sick people. The world is what it is.

How exactly can I be accused of emotional blackmail? I don't see how though.

Again, true, there are poor people on the streets. In fact, one doesn't necessarily need to be poor to be in need. Rich people run into needs too, sometimes needs that money can't sort out.

But, again, helpers are entirely free to choose whether or not to act in that capacity. There is no blame existing anywhere in the world to cast at them...especially when they have been helping for decades.

My natural reaction to the news of America's withdrawal as we've all read here is deep sadness. I do feel for those that will be directly or indirectly affect (note that WE ALL will be affected, directly or indirectly). But, I had to establish objectivity; these guys have done a whoooooolllleee lot for us and other nations like us. I surely cannot blame them for their decision. Nope. May I not stand any day to throw blames at anyone that once helped me in the past...yeah, it's how I see it.

What is even more annoying is that if our leaders were serious, we would most likely be able to cater for our PLHIVs. It's just a matter of proper planning and honesty; these ingredients, sadly, are lacking in the heads of our politicians. We are not like any other nation that may be truly unable to cater for their PLHIVs.

May God help us all.

kushme:


Trust me. They inflate figures to get funded. So, what do you call that real or fake?
No lie, how many persons you personally know wey get HIV?

Actually, working on the Frontline of hiv care in this country, I know many hiv positive patients.

I can assure you there is no fakery and no I don't work for any NGO

SalamRushdie:


He said it's a 60 day pause

Still makes me nervous

When bush started pepfar it used to cover the whole range of treatments for hiv positive patients. Not just arv.

Starting with Obama, cuts began. Now it's just arv.

So, you better not defend any pausing. Obama made a lot of things difficult for HIV patients. Trump should not join him.

I have worked in clinical care for hiv patients and still do. That's why I am not amused by any pausing. People are in pain

nairalanda1:


Actually, working on the Frontline of hiv care in this country, I know many hiv positive patients.

I can assure you there is no fakery and no I don't work for any NGO

I have worked with key population on HIV program. I don't want to say much. Let the matter rest. I don work with all the typologies for street.

"Everyone " here means people without legal authorization. We all know you don't deport citizens or people with legal documents without due process. I don't have to spell it out for you.
















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TONYE001:


"Everyone" was not deported.

The news says illegal immigrants....ESPECIALLY those with criminal records. Legal migrants can stay back and continue their usual lives.

Very good ....Its time Nigeria should carry their wahala and face it .....USA have been so good to stupid nations like us who have no directions since creation