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Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 12:25pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: Remember you wanna focus on the taking of hard drugs ...............what has oyaks got to do with this discussion??............do the persons who loose control in christ embassy(when oyaks shadow crosses path with there bodies) do that as a result of there taking hard drugs??........I want you to tell me from the scriptures how the smoking of marijuana and ganja upbuilds a christian or pleases GOD..................stop acting like you don't know what is right or wrong.........have you lost your bible trained conscience??........ 1 Like |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 12:26pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Help me ask mr zikky......... |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:27pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: you are right. i don't think that militant will ever respond. there are two issues i will be responding to here: 1. the purpose for asking the question. 2. though it's really of no relevance to my objective, i would like to understand what you meant by self-control. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:28pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Lol you getting it wrong. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 12:29pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: Smh!!!!...........why would you smoke marijuana or cocaine.....give me one reason and then the scriptures can answer your question.........sometimes I think you're joking........you're a JOKE |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by MrAnony1(m): 12:30pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy:Correct me then |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Image123(m): 12:36pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy:do you work with the Nigerian Police Force? |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:44pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: It's a simple matter. below is the post i was responding to: ijawkid: I see people make statement like taking cocaine or marijuana is bad. These substances also have medicinal benefits. How it is used (for what purpose) determines whether it is bad or not. You might as well say the use of any other drugs is evil or sin as well. For me the focus should be on the purpose/motive of the user. I was expecting the man to provide more details on what he meant by marijuana and cocaine being un-scriptural. The man has been avoiding me since |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:45pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Image123: Not yet but that will not stop me from suspecting you na |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 12:55pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: It's a simple matter. below is the post i was responding to: did you not hear me say smoking??...eh zikky??.......what are the benefits of smoking marijuana??.......and can we list the benefits and disadvantages of taking in marijuana??list them and contrast |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:55pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Back to your question; you need to define this self-control o! does it have anything to do with being able to restrain ya-self from taking cocaine or being able to stay sane after a good 'smoke' Kindly clarify sir. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:57pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: you don find liver to talk now that you know my motive abi smoking it does not change the medicinal benefit. anyhow you want to take it, as long as it does the job. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 12:59pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: begin list na. Don't forget to do the same for cocaine o! |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 1:01pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: na you go list.......lets compare....... |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 1:02pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: are u saying smoking it is good??......eh zikky?/...........how can you smoke marijuana and claim is for health reasons...??....zikky you really need help/.... |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Image123(m): 1:07pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy:suspect no more, you're conversing with St. Image123 N.D, N.S, N.T (no drinking, no smoking, no tattooing). |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 1:15pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: This is a response to the issues of self control and not just 'hard' drug. There are other activities that makes you lose self-control (that is if i understand what you guys meant by self-control). The fact that it makes you lose self control is not the issue. I believe what you want to achieve with it should be the focus. I had an operation a long time ago, and i was being treated with (controlled doses) of heroine related drugs (according to the nurse). I was always high anytime the drug was administered. I bet you will call me pagan for getting high ijawkid: Again it depends on what you want to achieve with it. afterall it's God that made everything for our use Lol! ijawkid: No i have not. am trying to give your argument a direction. so you just don't post for posting sake. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 1:18pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: am not saying anything is good or bad. even swallowing it or cooking soup with it could be good or bad. What the guy trying to achieve with it should be a concern to me, not the act itself. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by MrAnony1(m): 1:20pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy:There is a worrying tone this argument is taking. We have to be very careful not to take liberty for license. I will respectfully not "define self-control" here because I am sure that you understand what the bible means but are only being cheeky. The next thing you'll probably start doing is asking me at which point is the acceptable level of sanity kinda like the way a drunk person says "I'm ot drunk, I'm only tipsy". I refuse to engage in a discussion where one person feigns ignorance. Now more to the point. I find no sin in taking marijuana/cocaine as part of your medication if they are for medical health purposes. The sin is not in the drugs themselves but in the motive as you rightly said. THIS IS NOT TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD AND TAKEN AS LICENCE TO GET HIGH! I have come to realize that a lot of christians rather than read their bibles would prefer to wait for what some "man of God" says about it or how many other "christians" support their stance. That is how not to follow Christ. Let us be very careful not to mistake the freedom that Christ has given us as license to commit sin. Thank God you were referring to health purposes when you were talking about marijuana and cocaine but please next time don't lead people to get the wrong impression. Clarify what you mean from the onset so that brethren don't merely swallow the soundbite |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 1:21pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: you never ready Image123: Lol! |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 1:41pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Oh com'on, you really expect me to do a thing like that before responding to posts i always want to be sure i got the other party right. It's wrong to assume you know Anyways, no issues Mr_Anony: Thank you my brother. That's what am talking about. Mr_Anony: It's not my fault you guys mis-understood my question. It was just a question, all that militant needed to do was provide additional details by telling me why he is of the opinion taking cocaine or grass is bad. I did not at any time say whether it was good or bad, all i did was ask a question. Now you see why it is not always ideal to assume. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by MrAnony1(m): 1:44pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy:Someone once told me that it is not what you say that matters rather it is what is heard that matters. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 1:50pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: I agree. but sometimes you have to be sure you heard right the other party probably did his best ensuring he was as clear as possible. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 2:35pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: I ready,na you no serious....... |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 2:38pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: What does a smoker of marijuana or cocaine plan to achieve if not just to get high and do rubbish...........is there any other reason why people smoke??...............eh??............. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 2:48pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: Naaaa I won't call you a pagan for getting high because you were on heroine for medical reasons(besides the use of heroine for medical reasons didn't spring from paganism unlike tattoo).....you were given under prescriptive measures to heal your wound......and after your wound got healed I bet you stopped taking heroine............if after your wound got healed you started smoking heroine day and night then I would have to show you the scriptures to allign ya brains.................abi you still dey take the heroine??...... Zikkyy:What do smokers of marijuana plan to achieve??...........answer me.......think of just one thing.... Zikkyy: I earlier had directed my arguments.....................you were the one acting like you didn't know where we were heading to......... |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 3:37pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: I don't know. can't speak for others. the reason why i prefer to focus on the act itself. If you say smoking marijuana and cocaine for the purpose of getting high and doing rubbish is wrong, i will agree with you. but if you say smoking marijuana and cocaine is wrong, i am very likely to disagree. i want to believe you noticed the difference ijawkid: e no concern you ijawkid: it's difficult to say where you were heading to. There was no way i would have known if you were condemning the idea of taking cocaine or condemning it for the purpose of getting high and doing rubbish. That was why i asked my question, but you were not sure what my motive was so you decided your best response was to dodge the question. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 3:51pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy:Oya try to find out why people smoke marijuana....find another reason(good reason) if there is other than people getting high and tell all of us.......its your job now to tell me the merits of smoking marijuana...if you can't then smoking of that substance is bad.........prove me wrong.....remember my focus is on smoking....... Zikkyy: U dey smoke the heroine now??.......answer me make I use bible nack ya head now........ Zikkyy: Smokers of marijunana have just one or two reasons for smoking........and those reasons are worthless..........if I am wrong prove me wrong................ |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 4:32pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: stop disturbing me jor have told you already. who says you can't smoke or sniff your medicine just as long as the medicine works. if the medicinal effect can be achieved by smoking or sniffing, then the act of smoking or sniffing is not wrong. what is wrong is why you decided to sniff or smoke. |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by ijawkid(m): 8:34pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
Zikkyy: Smh!!!!!!..........have you seen persons who smoke ,smoke because they are sick and they want a cure??..............so you would encourage the sniffing of cocaine.......??....eh zikky??......... What i should be hearing you say is that these hard drugs should be taken by christians for only medical reasons and under strict prescription ............we know why the majority of persons take cocaine,smoke igbo,smoke haze,etc......don't act like you don't know.........I wonder what christianity would turn into in the next 100 years with persons like your type.................madness!!!!!..... |
Re: Tattoo On The Body Is Evil by Zikkyy(m): 10:56pm On Jan 25, 2013 |
ijawkid: The message from your post aligns very well with what have been saying. Your post is telling us you consider smoking grass & cocaine a sin because you are of the opinion 'majority of persons take marijuana & cocaine just to get high & do rubbish'. It's exactly what I have been saying; motive is what determine whether It's bad or not. It is not just because they smoked it, but they smoked it to get high. |
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