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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by GrownMan(m): 9:58pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Well, The concerning this link thing, I have several Edo friends with names like Gbenga, Segun Femi etc, I wonder why ![]() |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:02pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
afam4eva: Afam, My surname is Adesua and i am from Ondo state. so i dont understand what you mean by it isnt a yoruba name. 1 Like |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:02pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Lagos was originally inhabited by the Awori subgroup of the Yoruba people. Under the leadership of their Olofin the Awori moved to an island now called Iddo and then to the larger Lagos Island. In the 15th century the Awori settlement was attacked by the Benin Empire following a quarrel and the island became a Benin war-camp called "Eko" under Oba Orhogba, the Oba of Benin of the time. Aworis are not the only ones that owns Lagos, My dad is Ijebu Epe and my mum is from Iperu Remo - and we're indigenous to Lagos, The popular EYO FESTIVAL is from IPERU REMO, and the "EWESO" the popular EYO monicker, I'm Ijebu and Lagos is my State, we settled in Lagos before the Aworis - at least from what my dad told me, They give the Aworis too much credit for Lagos, they're not the only Yoruba sub-group from Lagos, Ikorodu and Epe are Ijebu towns and we've lived there way before Lagos Island was discovered, I would also like to tell you that the Ijebus and Itsekiris got to the present day nigeria, way before the other yoruba people and the binis, Itsekiris are mainly Ijebus and they speak the old Ijebu language - you clowns need to stop changing what you know nothing about, 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:04pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by odumchi: 10:07pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
This is an interesting topic. Judging from the comments, I think it would be immture to say that the Edo people are related to the Yoruba or Igbo. I've even noticed some characters saying that "Edo" is a Yoruboid ethnic group. ![]() But first, let me start by saying that Edo is not a singular "tribe". The Edo nation is made up of many ethnic groups which are the Edo, Esan, Urhobo, Etsako, and Isoko. These people live in the swath of territory from the Southern tip of Delta state to some parts of Ondo and north into Edo state and Kogi state. Linguisticaly, the Edo are closer (not related but closer) to the Igbo. For example in Edo "Oselugbua" means God and it is the same in Igbo. "Ohimwin" (If I'm correct) means "river" in Edo and it also resembles the Igbo "oshimili". There are also many other words and linguistic concepts shared by the two languages and communities mixed with Edo and Igbo populations do exist in present day Edo State. One community that is a great example of this relationship is the Igbanke people. Although Igbo, the Igbanke (who reside in Edo state) speak a dialect which might sound sound like Edo but is still distinct enough to be called Igbo. Culturally, the Edo people might also seem to be closer to the Igbo than they are to the Yoruba. The Edo nation also maintains a four day week c3ycle much similar to that of the Igbo. In addition to this, many early technologies were shared among the Igbo and the Edo. These technologie were later introduced to the Yoruba by means of Edo interaction and conquests. This quote from Christopher Ehret's Civilizations of Africa talks about this in greater detail. "This figure form the kingdom of Benin is a fine example of the tradition of scultping in brass, using the lost-wax method, which was known at least as early as the ninth century (Igbo Ukwu) in the regions on both sides of the Niger River." In pre-colonial times, the Niger River was an important trade avenue between the Igbos on both banks of the river and the Urhobos to the South and the Edos farther in-land. However, most of the contact that occurred between the Yourba and Edo was limited since there were no main water-routes to Edoland via Yorubaland. However, most of the "similarities" that we see today occurred after Edo military conquest. So in short, I'd like to say that the smiliarites between Igbo and Edo aren't much but they are greater than the simlarities between the Edo and Yoruba. 3 Likes |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:09pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
odumchi: Wonderful sermon, Now clap for your self . So what next? |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:09pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
According to the Edo oral tradition, during the reign of the last Ogiso, his son and heir apparent, Ekaladerhan, was banished from Igodomigodo (modern day "Benin Empire 1180-1897" ![]() At that time, according to the Yoruba, the Ifá oracle said that the Yoruba people of Ile Ife (also known as Ife) would be ruled by a man who would come out of the forest. Following Ekaladerhan's arrival at the Yoruba city of Ife, he changed his name to 'Izoduwa' (which in his native language meant 'I have chosen the path of prosperity') and became The Great Oduduwa, also known as Odudua, Oòdua , of the Yoruba. On the death of his father, the last Ogiso, a group of Benin Chiefs led by Chief Oliha came to Ife, pleading with Oduduwa (the Ooni) to return to Igodomigodo (later known as Benin City in the 15th century during Oba Ewuare) to ascend the throne. Oduduwa's reply was that a ruler cannot leave his domain but he had seven sons and would ask one of them to go back to become the next king there. Source: Wikipedia |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Wislet(f): 10:11pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
ETHNIC BIGOTRY. FIGHTING FOR A PEOPLE THAT DONT GIVE TWO HOOKS ABOUT U.
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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:12pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Y'all need to know that "EKO" means only Lagos Island - people were living on the mainland, Epe, Badagry, Lekki and Ikorodu before either the Binis or Aworis got to Lagos, Stop post fake history that only belongs to the thrash can - Aworis are not the only ones from Lagos, Spewing this BS makes them feel larger than life - the Ijebus and Eguns were living in Lagos before the Aworis left Ile-Ife - and the same goes for the Binis, The Ijebus got to Nigeria before Ile-Ife, y'all need to stop spreading lies, We're Yorubas as well but don't force your fake history on us, Even if I've never really lived in Nigeria, I know my people and our history, |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by aljharem(m): 10:16pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
shymmex: I am awori, clam down. Yes you are right |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:17pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by exotik: 10:17pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
the cultural myth is that yoruba is not close to igbo. stone/rock yoruba - okuta igbo - okute masquerade yoruba - ekpo igbo - ekpo money yoruba - ogho igbo - ego amen yoruba - ase igbo - ise orisha is a diety in both yoruba and igbo, and they both had bronze/brass casting. and dat was just from the top of my head and im not an expert. so imagine if experts in language and customs are to probe further, the results would be astonishing and you will find out these two noise makers in south of nigeria are actually one and same people formerly known as yorugbo ![]() ![]() |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:18pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
According to the Edo oral tradition, during the reign of the last Ogiso, his son and heir apparent, Ekaladerhan, was banished from Igodomigodo (modern day "Benin Empire 1180-1897" Stop spreading Lies, you mug, EKO is NOT Lagos - EKO = LAGOS ISLAND, I don't care who got to Lagos Island before the other - all I know is that the IJEBUS got to Lagos before anyone of the two group, The Ijebus got to Nigeria before any Southern Nigeria tribe including the wider Yoruba tribes - stop trying to rewrite the history you know little or nothing about, GTFOH, |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by tpia5: 10:19pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Yes, yoruba magically jumped over edo and delta states to dance with igbos on the other side of the niger. Makes sense. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by duni04(m): 10:20pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
See all the misinformation going on here. When the Oba of Benin launched his book sometime in 2004, he spoke of the historical relationship between the Yoruba and Edo tribes. His account of this history created so much controversy that even the Ooni of Ife had to refute some of the claims in his book. The Oba of Benin claimed that the Yoruba's emerged from the Binis. The Oba of Benin claimed that Oromiyan was a bini prince and son of a Bini King that saw the unclothedness of one of his father's wives and was thus banished from the Bini kingdom. He then travelled to Ife where he was made a king. Oromiyan's descendants were made kings in both Bini and Oyo. So its really very Ignorant to come out here and say there is no relationship between the yoruba and Bini people. Whoever started this thread it just plain ignorant! Check the oba of Benin's Autobiography[b] I remain Sir your humble servant[/b]. Its a must read for everybody! |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:21pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
alj harem: Dude na Awori you be today? |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by andrewozed: 10:22pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Afam stop concluding in the light of your reasoning always look at the fact and know that it is possible that you might be wrong. Are you an expert on history? am from edo, igbanke is in edo, the speak the same language with abgor in delta state because they share almost the same landmass. The akoko edos are yoruba settlement, the igalas speak yoruba fluently that's why they bear yoruba names, they wouldn't just give their children yoruba name if they don't know the meaning. Go and read about the history of great bini empire in the 15th century before posting a thread ignorantly and even bragging with it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by aljharem(m): 10:23pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
andrewozed: + 10000 |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:24pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
shymmex: Dude! Clap for yourself |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by exotik: 10:24pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
tpia@: and u think that is not possible? or have u forgotten how yoruba magically jumped over the atlantic ocean go to the dance with the natives in brazil? if dem fit jump atlantic ocean wetin be river niger wey i fit use leg cross ![]() |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nnenna1(f): 10:25pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
exotik: This is what I don't get - most southern groups in Nigeria have languages in the same language family. Whether you all here admit it or not we are more similar than we are different. We all share some sort of "Nigerian" culture that almost inaccessible to outsiders. This is applicable to all Nigerians whether North or South. So of what use is this in-fighting? And why are elements in this website allowing all of this to go unhinged? |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:26pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
I am awori, clam down. Yes you are right I just need to set the records straight because we're being marginalized in Lagos, It's like everybody thinks only the Aworis are indigenous to Lagos - when they were the LAST to settle in LAGOS, The EYO FESTIVAL also belongs to us, yet the AWORIS act like they also own that too, |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by odumchi: 10:26pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
exotik: Masquerade in general Igbo is "nmanwu". Only a few communities say "ekpo". The word for stone also varies in dialects. Nri-Awka says "okute", my people say "nkuma". Money is also various. Everyone says "ego" but some say "ikpeghe or okpogho". By the way, money in Edo is "ikpogho". And how did you arrive at the bolded? |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by isalegan2: 10:30pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
shymmex: Your post sounds heartfelt. But to be fair, Ibos are not the only ones that display tribalism on Nairaland (and I'm not just talking about this thread). Furthermore, you don't always know if the "tribalist" behind the username is actually what they claim; we've seen posters with seemingly Yoruba names posting anti-Yoruba messages, and vice versa. It appears it will not end any time soon. You can even see explicitly racist/offensive topics make it to the home page as fast as lightning. ![]() I commend the Politics Section Moderators for their efforts. But, the buck stops with the owner. P.S. Is Odumchi really a mod? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by ektbear: 10:34pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Interesting thread, especially the posts by edo.girl on page 1. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by odumchi: 10:37pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
andrewozed: Wow. Although the Igala language is related to Yoruba, it doesn't mean that they speak Yoruba. Igala is Igala and nothing more. What you're saying is like saying since the French answer "Henri" and th Englis "Henry", then Frenchmen speak English. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by exotik: 10:37pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
odumchi: as if yoruba and igbo are not full of dialects that have variants for words. ![]() ![]() And how did you arrive at the bolded? orisakwe is an igbo name meaning god-agrees. and i actually saw an igbo person wit dat name here on NL posted abagworo a proper igboman. |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Arysexy(m): 10:38pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
osebruwa means god that carries the world on his palm both in igbo and benin |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Nobody: 10:40pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Your post sounds heartfelt. But to be fair, Ibos are not the only ones that display tribalism on Nairaland (and I'm not just talking about this thread). Furthermore, you don't always know if the "tribalist" behind the username is actually what they claim; we've seen posters with seemingly Yoruba names posting anti-Yoruba messages, and vice versa. Thanks, fam, I have noted the notorious tribalists like onlytruth, dayokanu, ezeuche, exotik etc, I'll try to avoid them - these clowns breed tribalism, I tell ya, I grew up with a lot Nigerian kids that never cared about their tribes - we only saw ourselves as Nigerians and black Africans, I developed an interest in Nigerian history before 1914 a couple of years ago - and the funniest thing is that the guy who introduced it to me was a RASTAFARIAN, and since then I have found out every tribe in Nigeria is the SAME PEOPLE - just with different tongues, we all migrated from the same place, Yorubas, Binis, Igbos, Hausa etc, are all not indigenous to where they're in present day Nigeria - we all migrated from different places, We might even be the same people but we now speak different languages, Even most of the present day English people are GERMANS - but we Africans do HATE studying our history and migration patterns - that's why we're in the mess we're in today, |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Jarus(m): 10:42pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
Culture, not Politics pls. Thanks |
Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by Wislet(f): 10:45pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
shymmex:
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Re: Myth or Reality: Yoruba is closer to the Edos culturally than the East is. by richkids1(m): 10:46pm On Feb 04, 2012 |
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