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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:39pm On Dec 19, 2017
Leyqute:
Raumdeuter you need to keep it in your pants. Pep is doing great at the moment but he's not as fantastic as you've been bellowing; and Mourinho is not as awful as you want to make us believe.

The fact is that Guardiola HAS NOT WON ANY TROPHY since he got to Man City. The season is not over and for all we know he could go trophyless. Majority of clubs who started the season with a bang lost the league in the end. It's a possibility. He can also win the trebble and you'll have all the time to brag.

Mourinho's track record speaks for him. Although his brand of football is quite unpopular with many, he's WON THE LEAGUE at least once in the last 3 years. He might win the league this current season too, or not, we'll just have to watch things unfold.

We know how you opposed everyone when we said City is the favorite to win the league at the beginning of the season. At the moment though you seem to have forgotten your previous position. Please zip it abeg. We know you're a Pep fan. Allow the season to end before you deride and insult our intelligence with your passionate comments and arguments.

He is not as fantastic when he has 52 points of of possible 54? Set a 16 game winning record in a league thats been in existence for over 100yrs

So how else can he be more fantastic before Xmas? To win the league by Xmas or what? Mourinho has not been awful, he has just been inferior to Guardiola.


My own purpose in pep coming to EPL is to show that he is better than Mourinho. Since Mourinho fans used to whine how it was Messi that helped him, How Mourinho used to whine that it was the dominance of Bayern that helped him. Like I said in April May 2016 Both of them would be tested on equal ground, same city same league big spending clubs the results they achieve and the BIG trophies they win will be the determinant.

As at today NONE has won a MAJOR trophy,
As at last season both were in 2 Major tournaments League and FA, Pep performed better than Mourinho in both.
As at now 3 meetings in the league 2 losses 1 draw.
As at today Pep has set a league record,
As at today Pep leads with 11 points.

So Pep and his fans have the bragging rights today, If Mourinho now wins the league in May he and his fans can start their own

In the last 1.5 seasons in all MAJOR competitions entered Pep is still leading

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:43pm On Dec 19, 2017
Leyqute:
So you didn't consider Pep's "brilliance" when you made that proclamation months ago?

What I didnt consider was Mourinhos mediocrity and inability to turn his materials to deliver good products.
If Mourinho was as brilliant as thought he wont be 11 point bhind with the material at hand

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ctuagent007: 6:51pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


He is not as fantastic when he has 52 points of of possible 54? Set a 16 game winning record in a league thats been in existence for over 100yrs

So how else can he be more fantastic before Xmas? To win the league by Xmas or what? Mourinho has not been awful, he has just been inferior to Guardiola.


My own purpose in pep coming to EPL is to show that he is better than Mourinho. Since Mourinho fans used to whine how it was Messi that helped him, How Mourinho used to whine that it was the dominance of Bayern that helped him. Like I said in April May 2016 Both of them would be tested on equal ground, same city same league big spending clubs the results they achieve and the BIG trophies they win will be the determinant.

As at today NONE has won a MAJOR trophy,
As at last season both were in 2 Major tournaments League and FA, Pep performed better than Mourinho in both.
As at now 3 meetings in the league 2 losses 1 draw.
As at today Pep has set a league record,
As at today Pep leads with 11 points.

So Pep and his fans have the bragging rights today, If Mourinho now wins the league in May he and his fans can start their own

In the last 1.5 seasons in all MAJOR competitions entered Pep is still leading

I'm not a fan of Mou's footy but he won 2 major trophies----Uropa & Carling cup & Pep my favorite coach failed successfully last season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:08pm On Dec 19, 2017
ctuagent007:


I'm not a fan of Mou's footy but he won 2 major trophies----Uropa & Carling cup & Pep my favorite coach failed successfully last season.

Shu.t it there!!! Europa league and league cup are not Major trophies only Champions league and EPL are.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:13pm On Dec 19, 2017
ctuagent007:


I'm not a fan of Mou's footy but he won 2 major trophies----Uropa & Carling cup & Pep my favorite coach failed successfully last season.

Sorry Yorupa and Carling are not major trophies

Major trophies are UCL, League and to some level FA cup. These are the only trophies considered when they say a team won the continental treble

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Baritone(m): 7:26pm On Dec 19, 2017
CapitalCee:


Shu.t it there!!! Europa league and league cup are not Major trophies only Champions league and EPL are.
raumdeuter:


Sorry Yorupa and Carling are not major trophies

Major trophies are UCL, League and to some level FA cup. These are the only trophies considered when they say a team won the continental treble
If they are not major trophies,then why participate in them?.

Una don dey go offside..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:26pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


Sorry Yorupa and Carling are not major trophies

Major trophies are UCL, League and to some level FA cup. These are the only trophies considered [b]when they [/b]say a team won the continental treble

"When Raumdeuter says", you meant?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:29pm On Dec 19, 2017
Baritone:
If they are not major trophies,then why participate in them?.

Una don dey go offside..

They are merely low grade tournaments, which is why many clubs send their second team to play it. Arsenal has been playing mostly their youth team in Yorupa and Carling cup no one cares about it

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:30pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


He is not as fantastic when he has 52 points of of possible 54? Set a 16 game winning record in a league thats been in existence for over 100yrs

So how else can he be more fantastic before Xmas? To win the league by Xmas or what? Mourinho has not been awful, he has just been inferior to Guardiola.


This is utter crap. Breaking records don't win you trophies. Aguero just broke the goal scoring record at City. Which trophy did the FA award him?

If you don't win trophies, all these talks about breaking records are opata yarns.


My own purpose in pep coming to EPL is to show that he is better than Mourinho. Since Mourinho fans used to whine how it was Messi that helped him, How Mourinho used to whine that it was the dominance of Bayern that helped him. Like I said in April May 2016 Both of them would be tested on equal ground, same city same league big spending clubs the results they achieve and the BIG trophies they win will be the determinant.

In the last 1.5 seasons in all MAJOR competitions entered Pep is still leading

You're the kind of person that rounds up 0.87 as 0. That the glass is 3/4 full doesn't mean it's empty. You're just beating this "major trophy" noise to suit your narrative. There are more than 5 possible trophies available in the EPL. Winning one gives you an edge over your opponents.

From the way things stand to a logical mind, Mourinho bettered Pep in all ramifications last season except for league position.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:30pm On Dec 19, 2017
elrony:


"When Rumdeuter says", you meant?

Actually not me. Check the screenshot capitalcee posted earlier
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:32pm On Dec 19, 2017
Leyqute:
This is utter crap. Breaking records don't win you trophies. Aguero just broke the goal scoring record at City. Which trophy did the FA award him?

If you don't win trophies, all these talks about breaking records are opata yarns.

Its not only FA that awards people, There is a place for titles there is a place for records.

There are major titles and minor titles regardless of how you want to spin it. There is a reason clubs dont field their first team in some tournament, there is a reason no top club will hope to win Yorupa or Carling cup

put all 5 trophies available to English clubs on the table, the trophies Mourinho won are the least desirable of the lot

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:34pm On Dec 19, 2017
Raumdeuter
As at today NONE has won a MAJOR trophy,
As at last season both were in 2 Major tournaments League and FA, Pep performed better than Mourinho in both.
As at now 3 meetings in the league 2 losses 1 draw.
As at today Pep has set a league record,
As at today Pep leads with 11 points.

So Pep and his fans have the bragging rights today, If Mourinho now wins the league in May he and his fans can start their own

Did you notice how 90% of your plus for Pep are "achievements" 'made' "as at today" and based on a half season while pro-Mourinho guys can only brag at the end of the season? You're as sly as a slytherin.

Also @bolded. Since Arsenal won the FA cup last season. According to your logic they are much much better than Manchester City and Arsene Wenger >>>>>>>>Pep Guardiola.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:39pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


What I didnt consider was Mourinhos mediocrity and inability to turn his materials to deliver good products.
If Mourinho was as brilliant as thought he wont be 11 point bhind with the material at hand

What kind of rubbish is this?

Pep ended the league in 3rd position last season and you deem it better than someone who won 3 trophies but a team who is second at the moment is mediocre? Do you even know what you are saying?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:42pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


Actually not me. Check the screenshot capitalcee posted earlier


My screenshots are self explanatory, spin it anyhow you like it doesn't Still change, and you can't twist the white man's language when people like us who have studied with English language for over 3 decades now. You can do that to primary or nursery school pupils.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:43pm On Dec 19, 2017
Leyqute:


What kind of rubbish is this?

Pep ended the league in 3rd position last season and you deem it better than someone who won 3 trophies but a team who is second at the moment is mediocre? Do you even know what you are saying?


League Pep 3rd Mourinho 6th
FA Cup Pep semi Mourinho Quarter

The 2 major trophies they have played and has been concluded. The result is clear

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:43pm On Dec 19, 2017
Leyqute:


What kind of rubbish is this?

Pep ended the league in 3rd position last season and you deem it better than someone who won 3 trophies but a team who is second at the moment is mediocre? Do you even know what you are saying?


You are really debating in rational terms with dayo? You get time.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:45pm On Dec 19, 2017
Leyqute:
Raumdeuter

Did you notice how 90% of your plus for Pep are "achievements" 'made' "as at today" and based on a half season while pro-Mourinho guys can only brag at the end of the season? You're as sly as a slytherin.

Also @bolded. Since Arsenal won the FA cup last season. According to your logic they are much much better than Manchester City and Arsene Wenger >>>>>>>>Pep Guardiola.

Yes since last season

League Pep 3rd Wenger 5th Mourinho 6th
FA Cup Pep semi, Wenger winner, Mourinho Quarter


These are the 2 major trophies involving the 3 of them

You can decide which is better between a FA winner or League 3rd but what is incontrovertible is that Mourinho was the worst of the 3 coaches last season based on major tournaments

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 7:47pm On Dec 19, 2017
CapitalCee:


My screenshots are self explanatory, spin it anyhow you like it doesn't Still change, and you can't twist the white man's language when people like us who have studied with English language for over 3 decades now. You can do that to primary or nursery school pupils.

Exactly, There are no ways to spin this from your screenshot

Honours usually considered to contribute to a treble are the top-tier domestic league competition, primary domestic cup competition and most prestigious continental cup competition

Top tier domestic league = EPL
Primary domestic cup competition = FA Cup
Most prestigious continental cup competition = UCL

Pep did better than Mourinho in all of these

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 7:54pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


Exactly, There are no ways to spin this from your screenshot

Honours usually considered to contribute to a treble are the top-tier domestic league competition, primary domestic cup competition and most prestigious continental cup competition

Top tier domestic league = EPL
Primary domestic cup competition = FA Cup
Most prestigious continental cup competition = UCL

Pep did better than Mourinho in all of these

Ok oo

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 7:54pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


Yes since last season

League Pep 3rd Wenger 5th Mourinho 6th
FA Cup Pep semi, Wenger winner, Mourinho Quarter


These are the 2 major trophies involving the 3 of them

You can decide which is better between a FA winner or League 3rd but what is incontrovertible is that Mourinho was the worst of the 3 coaches last season based on major tournaments

It's axiomatic that you're just arguing based on personal sentiments which is quite subjective. Your word actually means nothing because you're just one man from Ogbomosho who "doesn't know ball", according to Elamps.

At the moment, Mourinho >>>>>> Pep Guardiola based on number of trophies won. This is the main fact. Take it or leave it.

Only a man with two different voices whispering contradictory ideas in his head will disagree and argue with these facts.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ctuagent007: 7:59pm On Dec 19, 2017
CapitalCee:


Shu.t it there!!! Europa league and league cup are not Major trophies only Champions league and EPL are.

U should also shuuuush there... apart from the Carling cup that only English people rate, the Europa is a very big MAJOR trophy even b4 Platini did the needed adjustment to it 3 seasons ago
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:10pm On Dec 19, 2017
ctuagent007:


U should also shuuuush there... apart from the Carling cup that only English people rate, the Europa is a very big MAJOR trophy even b4 Platini did the needed adjustment to it 3 seasons ago

You don't recognise sarcasm when you see one?
According to Dayo from ogbomosho southwest Nigeria, Europa league and league cup recognised and labelled as a Major honour by registered international
football governing bodies UEFA and EFA, is not a major trophy. Shey you de see
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:21pm On Dec 19, 2017
You can't lose a trophy you never played in.

Community Shield was won by the much derided LVG.

Bleep Moral victory.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:27pm On Dec 19, 2017
According to UEFA, the English FA and other respectable football world governing bodies, The Europa and EFL are part of the major titles a club can win in a season.


But...but....one Pa Ramuzaki from Sapele thinks he knows better and that none of those titles are major just to dispute the fact that Mourinho won more titles than Pep last season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On Dec 19, 2017
Lana1:
According to UEFA, the English FA and other respectable football world governing bodies, The Europa and EFL are part of the major titles a club can win in a season.


But...but....one Pa Ramuzaki from Sapele thinks he knows better and that none of those titles are major just to dispute the fact that Mourinho won more titles than Pep last season.

Not me, It was capitalcee that gave us the screenshot

that says

Honours usually considered to contribute to a treble are the top-tier domestic league competition, primary domestic cup competition and most prestigious continental cup competition

Top tier domestic league = EPL
Primary domestic cup competition = FA Cup
Most prestigious continental cup competition = UCL

Pep did better than Mourinho in all of these
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:30pm On Dec 19, 2017
CapitalCee:


You don't recognise sarcasm when you see one?
According to Dayo from ogbomosho southwest Nigeria, Europa league and league cup recognised and labelled as a Major honour by registered international
football governing bodies UEFA and EFA, is not a major trophy. Shey you de see

Did you read the screenshot you provided? It says
Honours usually considered to contribute to a treble are the top-tier domestic league competition, primary domestic cup competition and most prestigious continental cup competition

Top tier domestic league = EPL
Primary domestic cup competition = FA Cup
Most prestigious continental cup competition = UCL

Pep did better than Mourinho in all of these
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:30pm On Dec 19, 2017
Lana1:
According to UEFA, the English FA and other respectable football world governing bodies, The Europa and EFL are part of the major titles a club can win in a season.


But...but....one Pa Ramuzaki from Sapele thinks he knows better and that none of those titles are major just to dispute the fact that Mourinho won more titles than Pep last season.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 8:31pm On Dec 19, 2017
Meh una noh reply dat man again
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ctuagent007: 8:36pm On Dec 19, 2017
CapitalCee:


You don't recognise sarcasm when you see one?
According to Dayo from ogbomosho southwest Nigeria, Europa league and league cup recognised and labelled as a Major honour by registered international
football governing bodies UEFA and EFA, is not a major trophy. Shey you de see

Sorry didn't notice the sarcasm in the comment....hehehehe

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:43pm On Dec 19, 2017
For those of us that bet. I don't see Arsenal winning West ham in 90 mins
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:46pm On Dec 19, 2017
When United was playing Chelsea a top team in the FA Cup quarterfinal and after a long flight from Rostov, City played against Middlesbrough.

Yet, one Pa Ramuzaki from Ojuelegba under bridge thinks City had a better FA Cup because City beat Middlesbrough while United lost to Chelsea.

SNH! Orisirisi!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:47pm On Dec 19, 2017
raumdeuter:


Not me, It was capitalcee that gave us the screenshot

that says

Honours usually considered to contribute to a treble are the top-tier domestic league competition, primary domestic cup competition and most prestigious continental cup competition

Top tier domestic league = EPL
Primary domestic cup competition = FA Cup
Most prestigious continental cup competition = UCL

Pep did better than Mourinho in all of these

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