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Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 12:03am On Oct 28, 2007 |
vigasimple:Amen |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 12:11am On Oct 28, 2007 |
We too dey pray. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 12:27am On Oct 28, 2007 |
davidylan:dont yo believe in prayers. Please pray for Yar'Adua and Nigeria |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Teriba(m): 12:40am On Oct 28, 2007 |
davidylan: I`m all for probity and accountability. I`m for treating the electoral process as sancrosant. But, of equal importance is the need to be realistic in all our expectations. Not even in the developed nations could one be sure that the electoral process is going to deliver the best candidate. How could one be sure that a free and fair election this year would not have led to the election of either Babangida or Atiku Abubarka ? Of course, just like you, I would prefer a free and fair election that bring about the election of Nzeribe or Adedibu rather than the constant wishy-washy we engage in. However,we are where we are today and we have to deal with here and now. Feel free to enlighten me on the Governors in the last dispensation that you consider to be more credible than the current president. Everything in life is relative, I`m just being realistic in my assessment of the state of our nation-not in any way suggesting that we have got the best. Fact is, no nation in today`s world has a credible political system; definitely not in America and not in this England. The only thing that varies is the degree of rot |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 12:49am On Oct 28, 2007 |
Teriba i agree with you. Indeed even the US is not immune from electoral fraud but the beauty of their form of democracy is the built in system of checks and balances. While the Americans can trust their Senate to remove a bad president if they so wish, can we rely on the band of brigands we have iin the house of reps? While being "realistic" we should also not fall into the trap of rationalising failure on the altar of "afterall this is Nigeria". folahann: While the politicians told us to close our eyes and pray, they carried the treasury and emptied it in Switzerland. A new set have told us to close our eyes and pray again. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Teriba(m): 12:59am On Oct 28, 2007 |
vigasimple: Bro, did you write this b/c you were in a hurry to hit your bed or something ? |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Teriba(m): 1:12am On Oct 28, 2007 |
davidylan: |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 1:18am On Oct 28, 2007 |
Is nigeria really going to change and be better one day |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 1:25am On Oct 28, 2007 |
folahann: yes, when we stop closing our eyes in never-ending "prayers" and start holding our government officials accountable. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 1:28am On Oct 28, 2007 |
How could somebody hold Yar'Adua accountable, is that not out of our hands |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 1:29am On Oct 28, 2007 |
folahann: What a pity. No wonder our "leaders" loot the treasury with impunity. The people themselves dont even know their rights. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 1:43am On Oct 28, 2007 |
Remember we are in Africa |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Kobojunkie: 2:41am On Oct 28, 2007 |
folahann: That my friend happens to be the reason we continue to be where we are today, we continue to MAKE EXCUSES and condone this stupidity all cause We somehow believe cause it is AFRICA , it is to be SO, RUBBISH!!!! We have a democracy NOW, it is up to the people to get up and learn when to say NOW We want to do things the way we want it regardless of what the likes of IBB and others want instead.
Is What we have today really what the people want ?? or are the people too chicken to want to do anything about it ?? |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 2:43pm On Oct 28, 2007 |
@ Kobojunkie Could you start please |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by ricflare(m): 3:28pm On Oct 28, 2007 |
@poster I wish i could give Yar-Adua 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 years in office He is the president Nigeria has been looking 4 for years If u were the president Nigeria would have been like ur street HEhehhe |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by labiyemmy(m): 3:31pm On Oct 28, 2007 |
Nairaland armchair ctitics at work. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Kobojunkie: 3:37pm On Oct 28, 2007 |
folahann: I already have @Folahann, I am however expecting more and more of us to realize that this is democracy and start loosing the fears and ideas of yesteryears and going for things any which way they can. Here is what I have realized from when I was young in that country, even during military rule, the government only has so much influence on the daily lives of the people. People could come together to rebuild their own community, maintain things as they wished and even decided who would be local government head or not without much interference from the then military government but yet, people did not really put much stock in doing for self but we kept blaming the government for this and that knowing fully well that the chances of them actually doing much for us was really minute. I did live in a community were we had some good nigerians who tried their best to do make the community a good one and it worked well for a time until other people decided not to care and that was when things started to fall apart. From all that, I learnt that the fate of the country is not really to be determined by the government but the people. Now that we have a democracy, we still find it easier to blame the government than for us to get off our butts and do for self and that happens to be the sad thing I see in that country. We as a people have the skills and the resources if we wanted to but DO WE REALLY WANT CHANGE?? or ARE WE JUST BETTER AT PLAYING THE BLAME GAME than ANYTHING ELSE |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by DisGuy: 1:55am On Oct 29, 2007 |
We as a people have the skills and the resources if we wanted to but DO WE REALLY WANT CHANGE?? or ARE WE JUST BETTER AT PLAYING THE BLAME GAME than ANYTHING ELSEI think this thread alone answers the question. I think yaradua should stop respecting the 'rule of law' too much, to get things done in a country like that, you have to be (a bit) autocratic! Obasanjo (and a lot of leaders) actually got things done this way the people including the governors still want to be held by the hands they don't have their own mind We've heard enough of his anti-corruption stance, the LG and state government should be made to drive that home! It's about time people start holding the LG chairmen and state governors responsible for the conditions in their immediate environment |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Kobojunkie: 2:39am On Oct 29, 2007 |
I still have a problem with all that and my problem happens to be why the people are not now saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, It is like you enslave people for so long and then a change comes and they are still in slave mode and can not seem to understand that the tides have turned and this time they have more power by default. Why are more and more Nigerians not stepping up to say this is time to STAND AND FIGHT if we have to, for control?? I am sure there are those who are doing it but since this is democracy, majority rules, why are we still not the majority in the cry for complete halt of the stupidity?? Why in the world would a governor supposedly elected by the people need to have his hands held by the old goons who we did not want in the first place?? I see so many things wrong with that picture that I do not even know where to start. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 3:11am On Oct 29, 2007 |
Dis Guy: I dont think Yar Adua's problem is his consistent and boring harping on the "rule of law". He strikes me as a man who is at sea, he doesnt know what to do. He had no specific goals of how to run government; this was a man who was too sick to bother with a televised national debate and YET still won the elections - only in Nigeria. What were his pre-election promises? For a man who obviously knew he would be (s)elected into office in April, why did it take him 2 months to set up a cabinet? |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by McKren(m): 3:15pm On Oct 29, 2007 |
N-Joy Already judging a man that is only 5 months in government - something is fundamentally wrong with Nigerians. Dont mean to be rude But if every government spend 5months of their tenure doing nothing by a child's 40th Birthday he would have lost 50months of Government diservice and thats equivalent to over 4years. Nigeria is in the sorry state it is because people refuse to ask questions and yes something is fundamentally wrong with Nigerians but not exactly how you mean it. Like Daviddylan will put it, people dont do on-the-job training with the Presidency. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by DisGuy: 12:23pm On Oct 30, 2007 |
davidylan: There are no specific ways to run Nigeria in my opinion. The seven point agenda were his pre-election promise It probably took him that long because they were to be nominated mainly by the party and their respective state governments, as you can see there no one is crying about marginalisation (not as much as before) |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by stanech: 2:30pm On Oct 30, 2007 |
@ Topic He messed it all up with the UNITY GOVT stuff. Ima |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 2:55pm On Oct 30, 2007 |
Dis Guy: no wonder Nigeria is drifting around like a rudderless ship with no captain. We will be capsizing very soon, due process and all. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 7:37pm On Oct 30, 2007 |
God help nigeria, wait we must first help ourselves |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Kobojunkie: 9:39pm On Oct 30, 2007 |
I heard the Etteh woman whose issue has held up the house for over 5 months now has finally stepped down. I wonder what other excuse these goons will use to continue to waste our money fighting instead of working. Heck, I wonder how much longer the Nigerian people will allow them get away with such stupidity. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by DisGuy: 2:58am On Oct 31, 2007 |
Kudos to the person that blew the whistle on the renovation scam |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Nobody: 3:55am On Oct 31, 2007 |
Dis Guy: Dont say kudos yet, it must have been a disgruntled fellow who probably didnt get the contract he wanted who cried foul. |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by DisGuy: 4:34am On Oct 31, 2007 |
All the same kudos, may he (and his kind) continue to lose and cry foul |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by toshmann(m): 6:40pm On Oct 31, 2007 |
africa is in chains. and to liberate us from those chains it will take blood. real blood. but whose blood? that is the problem. abiola said it will take more than the ballot to remove power from the military oligarchy, he was right. he gave his life. but abiola's life is not enough. we need to get to a situation where the govt will fear the people. if govt fears the people, they'll be careful not to annoy the people, and scandals like the ette saga wont take more than 48hrs to get the culprit booted out. b/c the house of rep will fear the people. but in naija the people fear the govt, cant protest, cant go on effective strike, cant defend our votes, accept rigged elections, accept the rubbish our leaders throw to us, etc how can the govt fear the people. . . . i'm afraid, in africa(naija in particular) there is only one answer. . . violence. b/c if we demonstrate too much the police will shoot us to death and nothing happens, we may need to be more aggressive , make the land ungovernable and uncomfortable for looting leaders, that way they'll take the people serious. e.g, though this is a bad e.g, in the niger-delta, the govt will not joke with the statements of mend/asari etc. imagine if the whole country was full of I50 million asari dokubos. . . . . .are you getting my point now. h |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by Kobojunkie: 7:50pm On Oct 31, 2007 |
LMAO!!! first off, Abiola did not die for me, He died cause it was his time and good too cause after all the billions he too took from us, infact, he is one of the main reasons Nigeria is where it is now. Please learn of the history of these folks Abeg!! |
Re: Criticise Yar'adua Here by folahann(m): 12:45am On Nov 01, 2007 |
There is nothing wrong with nigeria, only the mentality that we are Africans. Is Yar'Adua back from Germany |
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