ea7:
Jesus christ you are dumb (no offense to stupid people). Humans do make humans through s.x.

jack 65 was right, you ARE a joke. You can't even write properly. The analogy is the same, we see people making these things so it's natural to ask who made this painting.

maybe some paintings fall of the sky. i guess they paint in heaven to cope with the boredom.

ea7:
Jesus christ you are dumb (no offense to stupid people). Humans do make humans through s.x.

jack 65 was right, you ARE a joke. You can't even write properly. The analogy is the same, we see people making these things so it's natural to ask who made this painting.

"Humans make humans through intimacy" who created the sexual organs for female and Male, the necessary exact mix of chromosomes - u nid to read up on ur biology to appreciate the work it took to create you. A MasterCraftsman indeed.

Now I made reference to a simple two/three dimesional object- a painting with no life. And yet you fail to draw inference on sumtin more beautiful- YoU. YOU were fearfully and wonderfully created by God.

Lol! Common people this guy is probably on IT and has nothing better to do with a computer and a free connection. Ignore him, its not worth it.

Jack65: Lol! Common people this guy is probably on IT and has nothing better to do with a computer and a free connection. Ignore him, its not worth it.

Is ur existence worth it?

snthesis:

i answered your question thru and thru

.

1. i call Him, "The Almighty"

This is not a name, it is a "title". A name is something like Baal, Akhenaten, Jehovah, Vishnu, Jesus, Quetzalcoatl, Thor, Zeus etc. Titles are something like "the greatest", "the most holy" etc. So does he have a name?

snthesis:
2. clarification: this thread is for atheist! i also went ahead to define Atheism: (the theory or belief that God does not exist)i am not in this thread to discuss weather there are multiple "gods" or not, i'll open another thread for that.

I thought the thread was requesting for questions. I'm asking questions. I didn't ask on the number of Gods but on why you believe in the particular named God that you believe in.

jmoore:



God gave us freewill which is evident as you are questioning his existence right now. He did not create robots.

Is God know all?

@snthesis

Atheism is not a theory, not a school of thought in science. Neither is it a religion, those who don't have a religion are atheists, no matter how evangelical they seem to be.

Why is there no God?? I think the God idea is introducing a greater complexity to explain a lesser one. Its too ineffective. I do think Nature is perfectly capable of weaving complexities including us.

A painting found on Mars, would imply its a product of man because we know the causal history of paintings. Nature too has its gallery, beautiful sceneries, even a stain on the wall could betray amazing geometry.

Myers and Kay, don't bother with him. He'll just repeat himself over and over.

thehomer:

This is not a name, it is a "title". A name is something like Baal, Akhenaten, Jehovah, Vishnu, Jesus, Quetzalcoatl, Thor, Zeus etc. Titles are something like "the greatest", "the most holy" etc. So does he have a name

its a title to you, but a name to me.

thehomer:


I thought the thread was requesting for questions. I'm asking questions. I didn't ask on the number of Gods but on why you believe in the particular named God that you believe in.

and my response has always repeatedly been- i believe in HIM because i see the works of His hands. This is akin to an artist being recognised by his paintings.

and in logic terms

If you arent self-Created
it means you have a Maker- a God.

Kay 17: @snthesis

Atheism is not a theory, not a school of thought in science. Neither is it a religion, those who don't have a religion are atheists, no matter how evangelical they seem to be.

Why is there no God?? I think the God idea is introducing a greater complexity to explain a lesser one. Its too ineffective. I do think Nature is perfectly capable of weaving complexities including us.

A painting found on Mars, would imply its a product of man because we know the causal history of paintings. Nature too has its gallery, beautiful sceneries, even a stain on the wall could betray amazing geometry.

the definition of atheism isnt mine- it was culled from a dictionary.

basically you believe in Nature? in other words you were made by Nature? so do you agree that you werent self created but made?

^^^
There is no dictionary on earth, that defines atheism as a religion or theory.

Self created?? Lol! No. If I was created, I would have an objectively discernible purpose and the presence of a creator.

A problem with God is, if man as ordinary as he is requires a Cause, wouldn't God??

From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism

atheism means:

noun
1.
the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings

In any event it has been proven conclusively on this forum both from intellectual and legal perspectives that evangelical atheism in particular is certainly now a religion.

https://www.nairaland.com/546562/atheism-religion/9#9232422

Kay 17: ^^^


If I was created, I would have an objectively discernible purpose and the presence of a creator.

basically, because you seemingly feel purposeless about your life - it translates to Self-Creation

Kay 17: ^^^


A problem with God is, if man as ordinary as he is requires a Cause, wouldn't God??

you are jumping the gun.
First step is to determine if you were Created or Self Created
if you admit to being Created - this implies that you have a Maker, a God

if you admit to being Self-Created, i would like you to state that there were no external Hands involved in your Self-Creation.

snthesis:

basically, because you seemingly feel purposeless about your life - it translates to Self-Creation

No it does translate to that. And self creation is as impossible as miracles.

snthesis: you are jumping the gun.
First step is to determine if you were Created or Self Created
if you admit to being Created - this implies that you have a Maker, a God

Its obvious there was a natural process involved in our emergence into the world: reproduction. that's not God.

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Enigma's quote:
The doctrine or belief that there is no God.

Thus a religion??

snthesis:
its a title to you, but a name to me.

Hmm maybe you need to learn what a name of a being is. Since you refuse to tell us the name of this God of yours, can you tell us how you came to know what he wants?

snthesis:
and my response has always repeatedly been- i believe in HIM because i see the works of His hands. This is akin to an artist being recognised by his paintings.

and in logic terms

If you arent self-Created
it means you have a Maker- a God.

Your so called logic terms fails. Humans aren't created, they are born so your conclusion there does not follow.
Also, saying you believe in some God because you can see humans makes no more sense than saying you believe in some God because you see a stone at the bottom of a pool. Such loose associations don't demonstrate anything.

Kay 17:
Enigma's quote:
The doctrine or belief that there is no God.

Thus a religion??

Actually, there is a second definition there which is being avoided.

2.
disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings

Maybe these faith-heads can tell us how that becomes a religion.

Kay 17:
Enigma's quote:
The doctrine or belief that there is no God.

Thus a religion??

Might not necessarily mean a religion but there exist similarities

Kay 17:
No it does translate to that. And self creation is as impossible as miracles.


Its obvious there was a natural process involved in our emergence into the world: reproduction. that's not God

so u agree that Self- Creation of urself is impossible which connates that you agree that you were Created as such u have a Maker, a God.

can u please shed more light on this "natural process" , i want to learn

snthesis:

so u agree that Self- Creation of urself is impossible which connates that you agree that you were Created as such u have a Maker, a God.

can u please shed more light on this "natural process" , i want to learn

You're right. Except it wasn't "God" who created the universe. Your "God" is an impostor!!!

The real "God" who created the universe is so complex, that if you tried to figure it/him/her/they out, you will have a brain aneurysm.
That's what it says in the Holy Book of The Way. The book is infallible, just so you know.

thehomer:

Your so called logic terms fails. Humans aren't created, they are born so your conclusion there does not follow.
Also, saying you believe in some God because you can see humans makes no more sense than saying you believe in some God because you see a stone at the bottom of a pool. Such loose associations don't demonstrate anything.

**typing really really slowly** when i make reference to "you" i expected with the level of intelligence spewing around here that the "You" refers to our specie, Man"

"humans aren't created, they are born" and who gave birth to the 1st human?

thehomer:

Also, saying you believe in some God because you can see humans makes no more sense than saying you believe in some God because you see a stone at the bottom of a pool. Such loose associations don't demonstrate anything.

are u saying u are a piece of stone

anyways i am teaching based on everyday analogies the "intelligent " folks here can relate with, no need to talk on Virtual particles, radioactive decay, photons bla bla bla.

i defined d word - God.
and gave an explicit relationship between God and the creation.

if you "Man" create a robot
you "Man" are a god unto the robot
and the robot is ur creation.

i also gave an analogy on the attributes of a creation
anything that was not self-made is a Creation and has a Maker, a God.

and i asked simply were you "Man" self made?
if you say yes, then man is a God unto itself, otherwise Man is a creation with a Maker, a God.

snthesis:
**typing really really slowly** when i make reference to "you" i expected with the level of intelligence spewing around here that the "You" refers to our specie, Man"
"humans aren't created, they are born" and who gave birth to the 1st human?
are u saying u are a piece of stone
anyways i am teaching based on everyday analogies the "intelligent " folks here can relate with, no need to talk on Virtual particles, radioactive decay, photons bla bla bla.
i defined d word - God.
and gave an explicit relationship between God and the creation.
if you "Man" create a robot
you "Man" are a god unto the robot
and the robot is ur creation.
i also gave an analogy on the attributes of a creation
anything that was not self-made is a Creation and has a Maker, a God.
and i asked simply were you "Man" self made?
if you say yes, then man is a God unto itself, otherwise Man is a creation with a Maker, a God.

Your analogies and rhetoric are as ridiculous as your fake bible god.

Martian:

You're right. Except it wasn't "God" who created the universe. Your "God" is an impostor!!!

The real "God" who created the universe is so complex, that if you tried to figure it/him/her/they out, you will have a brain aneurysm.
That's what it says in the Holy Book of The Way. The book is infallible, just so you know.

Martian:

Your analogies and rhetoric are as ridiculous as your fake bible god.

now why are you bringing religion into this

Martian:

You're right. Except it wasn't "God" who created the universe. Your "God" is an impostor!!!

The real "God" who created the universe is so complex, that if you tried to figure it/him/her/they out, you will have a brain aneurysm.
That's what it says in the Holy Book of The Way. The book is infallible, just so you know

anyways from your quote you inadvertently agreed that there is a God.

His nature is not up for discussion in this thread, thanks dude

Kay 17: ^^^
There is no dictionary on earth, that defines atheism as a religion or theory.

Self created?? Lol! No. If I was created, I would have an objectively discernible purpose and the presence of a creator.

A problem with God is, if man as ordinary as he is requires a Cause, wouldn't God??

Kay 17: . . .
Enigma's quote:
The doctrine or belief that there is no God.

Thus a religion??

Are you tryng to argue that someting called a doctrine or belief is outside the scope of religion or theory?

Meanwhile, I see you are silent on the other point that evangelical atheism in particular has been proven conclusively to be a religion ---- both intellectually and legally/judicially.

snthesis:
now why are you bringing religion into this

Yea, pretend that your concept of god is not the biblical one.

snthesis:
anyways from your quote you inadvertently agreed that there is a God.
[b]His [/b]nature is not up for discussion in this thread, thanks dude

Tongue in cheek. It just went over your head.

snthesis: are you an atheist? do you have questions about your maker- God? bring it on, dont by shy? but please come with an open mind. your questions will be answered logically, which i know appeals to you.I can understand how lonely it must feel and i am here as a medium to comfort and guide you back to Him that made you.

snthesis:
now why are you bringing religion into this

Since you want to pretend that you're not refering to the christian god, let's see if you can answer some questions logically.

Can you tell us why you believe in the existence of this particular God,why you refer to him as a male, how you know he is responsible for "creation" and how everyone else(especially atheists) should come to know what you know. Also, tell us why you think the "creator" is singular.

Since there is no religion involved, please do not use a holy book, religious dogma/doctrines, anecdotes, or personal beliefs.

Martian:

Since you want to pretend that you're not refering to the christian god, let's see if you can answer some questions logically.

Can you tell us why you believe in the existence of this particular God,why you refer to him as a male, how you know he is responsible for "creation" and how everyone else(especially atheists) should come to know what you know. Also, tell us why you think the "creator" is singular.

Since there is no religion involved, please do not use a holy book, religious dogma/doctrines, anecdotes, or personal beliefs.

dude, ive been down that road, read my replies, it wud educate you.
p.s
this thread is foremost to proof the existence of a God, His attributes gender, color is for another thread.

p.s 2
vessels are referred to as "she" does that mean vessels have life?

snthesis:

dude, ive been down that road, read my replies, it wud educate you.
p.s
this thread is foremost to proof the existence of a God, His attributes gender, color is for another thread.

p.s 2
vessels are referred to as "she" does that mean vessels have life?

F#ck this. This guy is ret@arded. lol.....that's from reading your replies.

snthesis:

duh!! which claims, just take a walk outside, breathe in the air, look at the sky, feel the breeze, watch a baby smile, see a dog bark its tail, butterflies floating, marvel at this wonderful works and b in awe.

"'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'"

Damn simpleton. lol . What about the baby dying from leukemia?

p.s why are you quoting mark 4 12, if religion is not involved?

Martian:

Damn simpleton. lol . What about the baby dying from leukemia?

p.s why are you quoting mark 4 12, if religion is not involved?

yea, what about the baby
why is whitney dead and not Bobby
why was i born a jamaican
bla bla bla
it changes nothing

Martian:

Damn simpleton. lol .

I will use the simple things of the world to comfound the "wise"

Martian:

why are you quoting mark 4 12, if religion is not involved?

to you it's mark 4, 12
... to me it's Word.

nothin iz funnier than religion and religious folks. i mean their sense of reasoning, very funny indeed.

Just to make my debut in this section. Hello to you all