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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 7:42am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:

No one wants to talk about how KDB flopped and played trash last night and was handled.


How Hazard lead Belgium to WC semi finals, being one of the best players and how KDB can't get past QF or achieve anything in Belgium without Hazard
Did Hazard score in the last World Cup?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:42am On Jul 03, 2021
donstan18:
Last Euro, Wales disgraced them.

Last World Cup, France messed them up after their lucky win against Brazil.

Now Italy...

Against Belgium, you have just one job, coordinate your defense and avoid mistakes, they can’t create shiit, just waiting for you to make mistakes so that they can capitalize on it. cheesy
At least france were eventual winner. KDB disgracing Belgium's golden generation

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:43am On Jul 03, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Why would they put anyone to press a player who is not a threat ?
lol, make I see wetin Ibime answer for here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:47am On Jul 03, 2021
Ibime:


You press a deeplying playmaker, you disrupt his team, and Jorginho succumbs to press everytime. I don't know why Martinez will be sitting back playing 3-4-3 with 3 centrebacks who don't contribute to the midfield, leaving Belgium midfield one short. . . instead of putting a 3rd midfielder on which is the AM you need to harry Jorginho. If you just put one AM on Jorginho, that's Italy's killswitch right there.

Jorginho had no one on him all day. He was just dropping deep to collect ball from the centrebacks with no AM on him because of course Witsel and Tielemans have to keep the 2 man shape deeper in the midfield

Here is Ibime admitting that Jorginho is extremely important for italy, like their heartbeat.

Witsel and Tielemans advanced alot, Doku could cut in and disrupt, likewise KDB used to be okay defensively. So your excuse no dey fry pan cake. Barella would go wide one in a while. And you don't except Italian player to just freeze and allow opponents run at their defense just so as to make Ibime right
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:48am On Jul 03, 2021
Meanwhile Barella keeps making me proud grin

Spinazzola's injury is such a shame. This one that he's is injured, I guess it means Emerson will start the next game(s).
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:49am On Jul 03, 2021
Actman05:
What do you guys think about Azpi so far? He's the reason I'm backing Spain.
since Luis brought him in, Spain have played better football and being better at the back, the whole llorente at right back was probably so Cesar could fully recover. So far he has been the consistent of the full back, both in attacking and in defense. If tuchel shifts to a back four, James would find it hard benching this Cesar

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:50am On Jul 03, 2021
Imagine Italy vs England in the Euros Final, and Brazil vs Argentina in the Copa final.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:51am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueMann:
Meanwhile Barella keeps making me proud grin

Spinazzola's injury is such a shame. This one that he's is injured, I guess it means Emerson will start the next game(s).

Make Emerson do well sha
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:53am On Jul 03, 2021
swiz123:
Had to squeeze out time to watch the 2nd half and I wasn't disappointed.

Ibime has started his lectures grin grin grin... No shame!.

He said Jorgs haven't met a strong opponent, hence why he hasn't been exposed. He met Belgium, dropped a world class performance and our lecturer shifted goal post to him being protected. He is weak yet the strong Varrati was subbed out.

Sometimes we should just accept our L. We can't possibly be right all the time.

My joy is that Horjtout was running all over the place when Dendonker was in Midfield but started escorting immediately KDB was subbed in. Jorginho went head to head to KBD and once again, came out victorious where Horjtout failed woefully.

Put some respect to this man's name

Every major pundit who had criticized Jorginho has had good things to say about his performance over the past 6 months, yet Ibime no go let us hear word

Don't know issues he has with escorts services grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:57am On Jul 03, 2021
Italy should better win this euro, so that one clown here won’t find a way to attribute pep to their win
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:59am On Jul 03, 2021
devvy44:
Italy should better win this euro, so that one clown here won’t find a way to attribute pep to their win
Pep should thank Mancini for making City an attractive team for him to enter
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:08am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:


Mtcheeww nonsense you had to get a time machine and travel back to the beginning of the world just to get a match where a player played poorly, and not him, the whole team morale was low..

I don't need to travel back in time. I travelled back to Sarri season to show what happens to Jorginho when a manager tries to play attacking football with him as DM. I could have brought the numerous disgraces under Lampard such as the Liverpool and Bayern disgraces but I said they will blame Lampard so let me bring an example under his father Sarri.

Just in the last two months of the season, Jorginho cost us the Arsenal and West Brom game.

That's 6 points dropped in two months. Extrapolate that over a season and you see why Chelsea dey struggle to finish top 4 every season with such a useless DM.

I ask you one pertinent question

1. Has Jorginho succeeded as a controller for Chelsea ie Do Chelsea control games consistently under his stewardship?

If the answer is no, after 3 years, then he needs to go. We don't want to hear side talks about how many tackles he made. We all know he is useless at the.defensive aspect of the game unless a bus is parked around him.

Anyone who wants Jorginho to continue cannot mean well for Chelsea. You will continue to struggle for top 4 while he drops you points regularly like below.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by fredoooooo: 8:18am On Jul 03, 2021
Una like trouble pass wahala... grin cheesy cheesy grin
Make I enjoy our 2 champions league and 2 Europa Cup in 10 years .. grin cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Dost42(m): 8:20am On Jul 03, 2021
I think ibime jorginho issue started with the Bournemouth trashing,following the excort services against liverpool in 2020 season,.jorginho is good we all know his deficiencies , but i don't why he doesn't criticise the fraud kovacic we have as cm

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:21am On Jul 03, 2021
Ibime:


I don't need to travel back in time. I travelled back to Sarri season to show what happens to Jorginho when a manager tries to play attacking football with him as DM. I could have brought the numerous disgraces under Lampard such as the Liverpool and Bayern disgraces but I said they will blame Lampard so let me bring an example under his father Sarri.

Just in the last two months of the season, Jorginho cost us the Arsenal and West Brom game.

That's 6 points dropped in two months. Extrapolate that over a season and you see why Chelsea dey struggle to finish top 4 every season with such a useless DM.

I ask you one pertinent question

1. Has Jorginho succeeded as a controller for Chelsea ie Do Chelsea control games consistently under his stewardship?

If the answer is no, after 3 years, then he needs to go. We don't want to hear side talks about how many tackles he made. We all know he is useless at the.defensive aspect of the game unless a bus is parked around him.

Anyone who wants Jorginho to continue cannot mean well for Chelsea. You will continue to struggle for top 4 while he drops you points regularly like below.

at least let Jorginho do well, make Chelsea sell am
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MercylessMercy: 8:23am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:
lol, make I see wetin Ibime answer for here
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 8:31am On Jul 03, 2021
[quote author=donstan18 post=103315046][/quote]
grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Actman05: 8:31am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:
since Luis brought him in, Spain have played better football and being better at the back, the whole llorente at right back was probably so Cesar could fully recover. So far he has been the consistent of the full back, both in attacking and in defense. If tuchel shifts to a back four, James would find it hard benching this Cesar
True. But that is the benefit of competition, you have to improve.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:36am On Jul 03, 2021
Dost42:
I think ibime jorginho issue started with the Bournemouth trashing,following the excort services against liverpool in 2020 season,.jorginho is good we all know his deficiencies , but i don't why he doesn't criticise the fraud kovacic we have as cm

Kovacic is not central to Chelsea. He is a CM that can be rotated out for others. Same reason I don't bother criticising Barkley or RLC cos they are not fundamental to Chelsea midfield.

What's fundamental is the DM position.

The irony of Jorginho is he is a midfield controller who Chelsea can only play defensive football with. Have you seen that kind of midfield controller before, that does not allow his team to play attacking football consistently and successfully?

After 3 years of struggling to make top 4 with numerous disgraces handed out to our midfield, only sometimes patched by parking the bus or building a defensive system around Jorginho, I want Chelsea to move forward.

Just like I did not accept that Mikel and Ramires were the midfield to take Chelsea forward in 2012/13 just because RDM set up a specific system for them to thrive in UCL, I will not accept that Jorginho is the DM to take Chelsea forward just because Tuchel set up a specific defensive system to accomodate him in UCL or because Italy is being successful in a tournament of few games. The reality is Mikel and Ramires were inept in regular league football in 2012 without the specific and focussed instructions of those one-off games, and led Chelsea to 6th in the table due to their ineptness. In the same way, Jorginho has been a weak point for 3 years during regular weekly football outside the confines of a specific one-off tactical instruction and leading us year on year to struggling to qualify for top 4.

We need a DM that can help us attack successfully and consistently and push us up the pitch in regular weekly football, that can be consistent whatever the shape of the team, without a manager having to create a cocoon around him. Such specificity cannot work over a whole season.

Anyone who wants Jorginho to continue as Chelsea DM does not wish the team well.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DumaEmpire(m): 8:41am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:

No one wants to talk about how KDB flopped and played trash last night and was handled.


How Hazard lead Belgium to WC semi finals, being one of the best players and how KDB can't get past QF or achieve anything in Belgium without Hazard
Flopped how??

Should the guy kill himself? Afterall the chances he created for Lukaku no be waste Lukaku waste ham. Especially the clear goalscoring one wer Lukaku go play for person body.

Even Hazard you're mentioning. Wetin that one don achieve. Wasn't he there when Wales whipped their ass in the QF 2016?
Lukaku wer dey form strong and mighty on top Finland and Russia finally meant a well composed defense and was mute like he usually is in the important games but its De Bryne's fault. undecided

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OJURONGBE1(m): 8:43am On Jul 03, 2021
fredoooooo:
Una like trouble pass wahala... grin cheesy cheesy grin
Make I enjoy our 2 champions league and 2 Europa Cup in 10 years .. grin cheesy grin cheesy


Victory is Sweet! wink

I still can't believe this bald head beamed with so much confidence, that he thought he had figured out Chelsea play pattern.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:50am On Jul 03, 2021
OJURONGBE1:



Victory is Sweet! wink

I still can't believe this bald head beamed with so much confidence, that he thought he had figured Chelsea play pattern out.
Why won't he be confident when reading comments like this cheesy cheesy cheesy

OJURONGBE1:


Bro, forget that Champions league final.
With the rubbish we've been playing since Arsenal's game , Man city would beat us silly.
Their players are getting deserved rest.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DumaEmpire(m): 8:56am On Jul 03, 2021
Trevor012:

Why won't he be confident when reading comments like this cheesy cheesy cheesy

Savage..
Like what you did there grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 8:59am On Jul 03, 2021
cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:00am On Jul 03, 2021
Ibime:


Insigne goal and Barrella goal was very impressive.

Belgium didn't put anyone to press Jorginho cos they are too busy trying to sit deep and play 3 at the back to protect their 3 old centrebacks
Defence have always been their problem. They have nobody there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MorataFC: 9:02am On Jul 03, 2021
Dost42:
I think ibime jorginho issue started with the Bournemouth trashing,following the excort services against liverpool in 2020 season,.jorginho is good we all know his deficiencies , but i don't why he doesn't criticise the fraud kovacic we have as cm
Everyone can not toe in the same line of thought when it comes to choice, Kovacic is good to some people but as for me he doesn't fit to be a ball boy. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 9:05am On Jul 03, 2021
Can somebody explain to me why Messi is getting Balon dor shouts cause I don't understand it. He was pretty useless in all the major competition for Barca last season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 9:11am On Jul 03, 2021
Capaldi:
Can somebody explain to me why Messi is getting Balon dor shouts cause I don't understand it. He was pretty useless in all the major competition for Barca last season.
Aside trophies, I think he played well.

Goals and assists.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:13am On Jul 03, 2021
BlueAngel444:

No one wants to talk about how KDB flopped and played trash last night and was handled.


How Hazard lead Belgium to WC semi finals, being one of the best players and how KDB can't get past QF or achieve anything in Belgium without Hazard
raumdeuter, you have a mail.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 9:14am On Jul 03, 2021
donstan18:

Aside trophies, I think he played well.

Goals and assists.
Played well how?

He was useless in the Champions league(trashed and bundled out in the round of 16) and against the top teams in la Liga.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 9:14am On Jul 03, 2021
Ibime:


You are being disingenuous.

KDB is the same player now that he was at Chelsea (check his loans to Bundesliga for confirmation), same vision, same passes, same energy.

Salah is not the same player. He has improved his finishing and hunger for goals. His stats at Fiorentina and Roma confirm this. Everything else is pretty much the same.
And KDB didn't improve?

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