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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:25pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
TLona1: In those 9 years how many did prime Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, Puyol played in? Your maths is wack if you don't consider some variables. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:27pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21:Why I understand where you're driving at, but it's not really straight forward as you're making it sound. See Rashford for example. He'll always thank Van gaal for giving him the opportunity and entrusting him into that number 9 position. While you might say his talent might shine through, but we really don't know if we would have still known Rashford till now If not that exposure. Check Man u thread and see how Midfield talents are not exposed due to the coach not promoting and using any of them. Aside Exposure, there's still player usage. Pep made Messi the focal point of that team eliminating the big boys which made his goal tally increase. The next season sef, he made him as a number 9 thus making his tally increase even more. While I don't doubt Messi had the talents but you Pep ensured he maximized his talents(to Barca and Messi benefits) to the fullest 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:27pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
airmark:Since Pep cannot buy UCL trophy with 1bn+ na to do attache to another man greatness...Lmao |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:27pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21: We could see the trajectory of Messi goals rising with every season until ep left and it dropped Klopp made the best version of Salah simple until another coach beats that number he made under Klopp |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ellexy: 6:27pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:28pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:28pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
airmark: Kukuma say make Valdez win ballon d or Baba agenda |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:29pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Jodera: Simple question : Did Messis talent leave him the moment Pep left? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:30pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21: Why then has Nadal, Federer and Djokovic not appointed you as their coach? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:30pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
raumdeuter: Na mumu version Fraudiola turn am to. A striker now scoring 2 goals in 21 matches. Nobody will even pay the amount City paid to get him. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:31pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Jodera:Saying Pep maximized Messi talent I would not have argued with... Saying he made Messi is a travesty I suppose only hear from cr7 fangirls |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:33pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21: Brilliant. Raumdeuter sabi lead his sheep into a dungeon and abscond. ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:33pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
raumdeuter:The same reason Apari Fraudiola has not appointed you his Lawyer despite you being fellow Apari in arms... |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:34pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
airmark:He was developing but the height he reached was courtesy of Pep. Stats says so, the team was built around him in one of the most beautiful Barca in history and his goal tally increased. If it was that easy to win treble with young prime Messi, why was young prime Messi always crashing out with Argentina national team in any FIFA or conmebol competition? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:36pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
raumdeuter:Nope.. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TrebleChamp(m): 6:40pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
And some Chelshit fans will claim United fans carry Messi matter for head ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:42pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21:But na wetin bring you come the argument na. Na almost the same thing You said put Messi with big Sam and he'll post same numbers. From what I understood, it means big Sam will maximize Messi the way pep did. Aside agenda, we all know that's a lie ![]() Even Xavi and iniesta didn't have that great height pre-Pep even though they're known before. And that's the work of world class coach 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 6:44pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 6:48pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Jodera:I said he would shine not put up thesame numbers..I made the comparison to show that messi's greatness was not a matter of 'if' but 'when' |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 6:58pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Please nobody expected Messi to be dropping those numbers. Don't come here to be typing nonsense about Messi greatness being a matter of 'if' but 'when'. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 7:02pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
says nobody but means "I".....Lmao |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by DissTroy(m): 7:05pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Jodera: Pep didn't make Messi. Pep has never publicly or privately taken even the smallest credit for Messi's greatest. Instead, Pep would continually tell you he is in awe of Messi and Leo being the greatest player he has ever seen; and has kept saying this even at the other club(s) he managed/manages. Nobody makes players like Messi, Ronaldinho and CR (as much I love to troll him). They are icings on the cakes of any decent coach and team. Messi won an average and drab coach like Luis Enrique the Treble. Simeone would have more trophies with peak Messi, Ronaldo or Ronaldinho. That truth is as certain as Will Smith simping. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:05pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21:He might shine, but probably not at that height we all know. Shine pass shine and we know that. Say Raphinha dey shine no mean say him be left footed Salah ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:07pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
CAPdan21: Why was Messi not putting up those numbers before Pep and after Pep 10yrs since Pep left Messi and we never saw those numbers again |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:09pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Jodera: Without Pep Messi would be a great player but he would never do 70goals a season Same way without Klopp Salah will never become a 20 goals a season attacker |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 7:09pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
DissTroy:Keep mute Messi didn't win sh.itt for Enrique. Enrique assembled and created a well balanced team with the fulcrum being Messi, Neymar and Suarez. Why didn't Messi win the treble for Tata Martino or the numerous coaches he had ever since? 14 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:10pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Before u join them say "football is coming home", remember once upon a time at the 2014 World Cup.....It ended in tears 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 7:12pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
When the team wins the champions league or treble it becomes Messi carried this coach to this and that with zero acknowledgement for the Coach but when they lose or get disgraced it becomes the Coach fault. You better check yourself. 11 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:12pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
DissTroy:Oga, this was MSN era na. We can say all we want but great coaches maximize great players potential to the fullest. While potential differs, but if a great potential player meets an average team or coach, his potential is not fully maximized. Salah is a good example. Chased away from Chelsea even when he had WC potential. Just a good player at Serie A(across fiorentina and Roma) but turned into a World class player as he met Klopp. We can say all we want to say from hindsight, but we all know he won't be this heralded if Sam Allardyce bought him from As Roma instead of Klopp 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 7:13pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Jodera:Van dijk was balling at Southampton and got offers from all the top clubs in England...I don't expect raphinha to be in Leeds next season...dem nor dey hide shine, Messi greatness is sure |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:16pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
Leeemao ![]() Does Simeone even look like a coach that can handle attack minded players like Xavi, Iniesta or the GOAT Messi? The weyrey will use park the bus to frustrate their lives. Ronaldo for Don get like 12 Balon D'or now if messi played under Simeone instead. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:16pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
raumdeuter:Exactly what some people don't know. They think it's just normal talent that's playing. They don't know the work and enabling environment most of these coaches put into to turn these players into World class. |
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