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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 3:56pm On Jun 09, 2022
Godx:

They are various economic tools in place to achieve this. What do you think the IMF, Common wealth, Paris club, U.n etc are for? Debt is the new prison.

Thats why any African leader that comes with genuine heart to liberate his country and possibly influence others will be killed by his own people for peanuts the colonialists promises. All great African leaders they cannot control were killed by their colonialists using their own people.
as soon as you pull out from global government system, reject loans to focus on your local contents, they'll kill you and put a stooge to rule and impoverish the people again.
After Magunfuli, Ghanaian president is the next cos of his new steps to making Ghana great and pushing Africa to look inward and forget foreign supports. Kagame too, but he's more or less a tyrant.
Insightful piece. You really understand what's going on.

But if our leaders are really serious about developing the country, I think they can achieve the objective if the citizens support them, even inspite of the effort by UK and the likes to thwart their (our leaders) plans for the country.

When agnostics like me and atheists on Nairaland discourage people from believing in the white man's God (Yahweh) and the tool of subjugation called Jesus Christ, it's because we know how the powerful nations of the world use those tools to mentally colonize people of lesser intelligence.

And mental slavery is the worst form of slavery because unlike the physical one where slaves are bound in chains and the victim can see that he's in slavery, the mental type is more subtle, harder to break free from, since the slave won't even know he's enslaved.

Before this country can develop, many Nigerians will first need to break free from the mental chains which make them enslaved to the whites, looking at their god as the Supreme God, considering their culture as superior to the local ones.

When you worship the white-man's god, you'll see yourself as inferior to them. You'll view your culture with disdain, will destroy your culture and traditions with your own hands, since your allegiance lies with that white-man's country, with his culture and traditions.

How can such a people develop? Such kind of people are ready tools at the hand of the white supremacists to poison and kill any Nigerian leader, who doesn't dance to their tunes.

The majority of Nigerians follow Abrahamic religions, thereby considering the Bible and the Qur'an as superior to the wise wisdom of our forefathers, simply because the white supremacists and Arab conquerors had instructed them to see anything indigenous as objects of the devil.

These people will gladly kill any leader that refuses to bow to the white-men and Arabs because their allegiance is to those foreign entities and their culture, not the indigenous cultures.

Many Nigerian Muslims will soon visit Mecca on pilgrimage and their Christian counterparts will visit Jerusalem also on pilgrimage.

That shows where their allegiance lies: with Saudi for the Muslims, and with Isreal for the Christians.

But the Osun Groove is there and a number of such places are in the other parts of the country that an average Yoruba or Ibo should visit and explore and regard as superior to the foreign ones.

But the self-hate and inferiority complex in the average Nigerian is so deep, and when you tell them to do the right thing by regarding the locals cultures and traditions as superior to the foreign ones, they start treating you as a devilish person.

The religious people will kill any political leader that tries to do the right thing by placing the traditional religion in the right place — ahead of Christianity and Islam — and encourage the citizens to know more about the local cultures and value them so that their allegiance can lie with their country, not with Israeli and Saudi Arabia.

These religionists will kill any freethinkers (especially the Muslims) in their midst that urge them to value the local culture instead of the foreign ones and think about the content of religious texts critically.

That's why any freethinker will strive to deal with their religious family and relatives cautiously because when they declare fatwah on one's head, even that family member or relative that one think loves one will suddenly change.

The problem with this country is Nigerians themselves, not the leader. The leader is only a reflection of the people, and Nigerians deserve the kind of leaders they have.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jun 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:

We no Dey waste time take throway ekuke players

Thank you for mascherano and suarez ,Barcelona made them greater than your club legends cheesy cheesy

The way you no waste time throway Messi for free too grin..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Godx: 4:00pm On Jun 09, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Corner taken quickly.
Origggggiiiiii
Bro let it go. We understand how you feel

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:05pm On Jun 09, 2022
nihilistjnr:


Greedy wicked leaders are symptom of the artificial countries that were created by the European colonialists.
In almost every country in Africa, the British/French just bundled a bunch of ethnic groups that often historically had minimal interactions, called them a country, and then fvcked off into the sunset and left them to figure things out.

There have been several revolutions in Africa, always bloody , and almost always unsuccessful, mostly due to inter-ethnic rivalry.
Since independence, Nigeria alone has had a civil war, 6 successful coups, at least 2 coup attempts, and 4 republics.

Every HOS Nigeria has ever had recognises two things
1. They can only be popular within their region/ethnic group/religion
2. They dont have a lot of time in power - Since 1st republic in 1963, we've changed head of state 15 times - that's a change in leadership every 4 years, and we've only gotten worse.

So there's literally no incentive for them to develop or work towards any kind of long-term vision. It's literally dip in and dip out. So you might as well enrich yourself whilst you're there. And that's even for the ones that make it.

So the best thing these politicians can do, since they cannot fix the country for everyone, is to forestall more ethnic unrest by at least rotating the opportunity to steal - through zoning.

The ethnic rivalry is so bad now, that the chances of a youthful and qualified technocrat making it to FG are so low, they might as well be a lottery. Imagine a hot smart 40 year old Yoruba politician emerges after a Tinubu presidency for example. SW has had their 8 years, so he has to wait for rotation through 5 geo-political zones, before his turn go reach. Assuming each zone does their 8 years, by the time it's the SW turn again, our hero will be 88 years old. His time never came, and maybe we missed out on the greatest leader known to man.

This is why calling for revolution is pointless. Dangerous even. The only HOPE for Nigeria, and it's a slim one, is disintegration. Otherwise we will keep shuffling slowly but surely into the abyss.

This was why I said bring Barack Obama to Nigeria and there would be no difference
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:05pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


The way you no waste time throway Messi for free too grin..

At least common sense should tell you about Messi who gave his all to Barca grin

Coutinho suarez mascherano all left Liverpool to achieve what the club haven’t achieved for more than 30 years cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:06pm On Jun 09, 2022
Godx:

Bro let it go. We understand how you feel

Collectively amount to 0ucl but None can supersede this moment wink

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:07pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


United,athletico were also interested,there is rumours united wants to hijack the deal using his agent by offering more despite player chosing LFC....the deals on the table is clear unlike haaland's were clubs ran from

Nunez will be earning less than 100,000 pounds per week for the next 5years which he agreed with pool...so?

Many clubs were also interested in Haaland and he chose City

How much will Haaland be earning per week from your source that gave Nunez 100K a week?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 4:07pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


The way you no waste time throway Messi for free too grin..
Ekuke players like Messi and Neymar abi...People receive 150m use am buy Van dijk and Alisson...Person use Neymar money buy two footed better than Mbappe dem-belle, no wonder dem dey cry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:09pm On Jun 09, 2022
NinjaXmetahuman:

You can't force people to live together and expect a great country.

You can't force the french, Russians, English and some minor Eastern European countries together and expect them to form one happy country

Even the united kingdoms that share common language and sometimes culture can't stand each other, let alone mixing Russians, English and Germans.

Nigeria is never gonna work based on current establishment and revolution is never gonna happen because we are not one people.

Nothing is ever gonna work. not even revolution until people recognize that we are not one and we are never gonna be one.

And it's time to respect that and let's all of us respect each other from afar and govern each other the way we want.

At the bolded, that is literally how America was founded.
America is a country that embodies the word diversity. The earliest white people that formed America were immigrants of french descent, English descent, German descent, Irish descent, Dutch descent. In short these were people of different European descent and you best believe they were not the same people.
A European of Slavic descent is very different from a European of Scottish descent but somehow when they all got to America, the men all banded together, put away their religious differences, which we're very huge at the time, a Romam catholic did not see eye to eye with the Anglicans or the Lutherans or methodists etc, etc. Once they landed in the newfoundland (America), they put away all differences, banded together and formed a new system of government, they gave the word patriotism a new meaning, their flags became a sacred symbol. They formed a new picture of what it meant to be an American. many of them formed a new ideology called white supremacy where they believed scientifically that their race was better than other races and proceeded to subjugate the black race who provides free labor upon which to drive and build their economy.

When we talk of disintegration, I laugh. I laugh because I want to ask the person, into how many groups are we going to disintegrate? Into 4? 6? 8? 10? Do you think an ijaw man aligns completely with an Igbo man? Do you think an ijebu man aligns with the yorubas in Kwara state? What of Tiv and idoma people who have been embroiled in ethnic clashes for decades?
So I ask again, into how many parts should nigeria be divided into? 8 countries??

Africa and Nigeria especially has sooo many different ethnic groups, what makes you think that disintegrating into thousands of smaller groups will lead to better governance?

The solution is not disintegration because disintegration will not automatically equate to good leadership. Look at rivers, bayelsa, akwaibom and cross rivers state? 3 of those states are some of the smallest states in Nigeria and they receive about 35% of federal allocation collectively, they also have a whole ministry to themselves and yet how are the leaders using that money?

Those 4 states have received 100 billion dollars in the past 5 years alone? Is it the hausas that are making the leaders to squander such wealth and not build a long term developmental plan for their region?

What of the poor leadership in the east, is it because of the Fulani man that eastern political leaders are one of the most useless in the country?

He was talking about how power rotation and zoning was an issue that affects effective leadership. One would think it was only a national issue? Even within local governments in the same states, you see those same people clamouring for the LGA chairman to come from this village since the last one was from the same village. It's an African thing.
This idea of leaders coming from one's place is not the same in other countries. Look at Obama whose father was born and bred in Kenya becoming a us president. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger who was born in Russia becoming a California governor. Some US senators are not even residents of the state they represent. They look towards merit and qualification not where the person is from.

So no disintegration is not Nigeria's solution. It's a change of mentality. We need to shed our ethnic identity over time, rather than seeing ourselves as Yoruba or Igbo or idoma people, we see ourselves as Nigerians. When we start thinking of ourselves as Nigerians, we would get things right.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:12pm On Jun 09, 2022
NinjaXmetahuman:
you failed to get the point when it's very clear.

French, even if they are mixture of people see themselves as french and no one forced them to see each other as french.

Yoruba for example is a mixture of so many tribes. But we see ourselves as Yorubas after centuries of inter marriage and relationship. No one forced us to be Yorubas.
it's the same for igbos and most Nigerians.


You get the point now or still have some objections?

Okay I'm just seeing this point. Good! It's essentially the summation of my point up there.

We need to shed our ethnic and tribal identities. We need to embrace Nigerian patriotism. See ourselves as a nation first, not as a tribal group.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mirinder: 4:14pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


Collectively amount to 0ucl but None can supersede this moment wink
are you a chelsea fan
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ebukacute(m): 4:14pm On Jun 09, 2022
Jude Nwafor have OBIdiently withdrawn from the labour party presidential election flag bearer race.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:17pm On Jun 09, 2022
donjazet:


At the bolded, that is literally how America was founded.
America is a country that embodies the word diversity. The earliest white people that formed America were immigrants of french descent, English descent, German descent, Irish descent, Dutch descent. In short these were people of different European descent and you best believe they were not the same people.
A European of Slavic descent is very different from a European of Scottish descent but somehow when they all got to America, the men all banded together, put away their religious differences, which we're very huge at the time, a Romam catholic did not see eye to eye with the Anglicans or the Lutherans or methodists etc, etc. Once they landed in the newfoundland (America), they put away all differences, banded together and formed a new system of government, they gave the word patriotism a new meaning, their flags became a sacred symbol. They formed a new picture of what it meant to be an American. many of them formed a new ideology called white supremacy where they believed scientifically that their race was better than other races and proceeded to subjugate the black race who provides free labor upon which to drive and build their economy.

When we talk of disintegration, I laugh. I laugh because I want to ask the person, into how many groups are we going to disintegrate? Into 4? 6? 8? 10? Do you think an ijaw man aligns completely with an Igbo man? Do you think an ijebu man aligns with the yorubas in Kwara state? What of Tiv and idoma people who have been embroiled in ethnic clashes for decades?
So I ask again, into how many parts should nigeria be divided into? 8 countries??

Africa and Nigeria especially has sooo many different ethnic groups, what makes you think that disintegrating into thousands of smaller groups will lead to better governance?

The solution is not disintegration because disintegration will not automatically equate to good leadership. Look at rivers, bayelsa, akwaibom and cross rivers state? 3 of those states are some of the smallest states in Nigeria and they receive about 35% of federal allocation collectively, they also have a whole ministry to themselves and yet how are the leaders using that money?

Those 4 states have received 100 billion dollars in the past 5 years alone? Is it the hausas that are making the leaders to squander such wealth and not build a long term developmental plan for their region?

What of the poor leadership in the east, is it because of the Fulani man that eastern political leaders are one of the most useless in the country?

He was talking about how power rotation and zoning was an issue that affects effective leadership. One would think it was only a national issue? Even within local governments in the same states, you see those same people clamouring for the LGA chairman to come from this village since the last one was from the same village. It's an African thing.
This idea of leaders coming from one's place is not the same in other countries. Look at Obama whose father was born and bred in Kenya becoming a us president. Look at Arnold Schwarzenegger who was born in Russia becoming a California governor. Some US senators are not even residents of the state they represent. They look towards merit and qualification not where the person is from.

So no disintegration is not Nigeria's solution. It's a change of mentality. We need to shed our ethnic identity over time, rather than seeing ourselves as Yoruba or Igbo or idoma people, we see ourselves as Nigerians. When we start thinking of ourselves as Nigerians, we would get things right.

Who then are the red Indians because I thought they said this people are the native Americans?.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:21pm On Jun 09, 2022
CAPdan21:

Ekuke players like Messi and Neymar abi...People receive 150m use am buy Van dijk and Alisson...Person use Neymar money buy two footed better than Mbappe dem-belle, no wonder dem dey cry

Same dem belle your club wanna get cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:22pm On Jun 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


At least common sense should tell you about Messi who gave his all to Barca grin

Coutinho suarez mascherano all left Liverpool to achieve what the club haven’t achieved for more than 30 years cheesy

We have 6ucl more than your club and 19 league titles, thankfully those rats that went to the Catalonia wankerrs were not part of that history grin

Did you include this as part of messi's all grin, dead barka forever in Madrid's shadow cheesy

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:23pm On Jun 09, 2022
popizaino:


Who then are the red Indians because I thought they said this people are the native Americans?.

These were the original inhabitants of America, but the new European immigrants banded together and killed them for land settlement.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:24pm On Jun 09, 2022
Your excuse that the white were under developing you would have been geniune if Malaysia, Indonesia,Singapore and other Asian tigers were not once a colony before.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 4:25pm On Jun 09, 2022
donjazet:


These were the original inhabitants of America, but the new European immigrants banded together and killed them for land settlement.

Ohk.

Thanks
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:28pm On Jun 09, 2022
donjazet:


These were the original inhabitants of America, but the new European immigrants banded together and killed them for land settlement.
Nice points, but I think Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Austria. Not sure tho
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:28pm On Jun 09, 2022
raumdeuter:


Many clubs were also interested in Haaland and he chose City

How much will Haaland be earning per week from your source that gave Nunez 100K a week?

Lmao,interested but no bidding wars,signed before European league ended...

Salaries of both are littered on the interet cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:29pm On Jun 09, 2022
Unlimited22:

Nice points, but I think Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Austria. Not sure tho
Yeah. My bad. You're correct. I was actually trying hard to remember where he was from.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 4:31pm On Jun 09, 2022
Godx:

Bro let it go. We understand how you feel
A flop showed everybody dead barka was not special. We finished you in Camp zoo.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 4:32pm On Jun 09, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Same dem belle your club wanna get cheesy cheesy
Thats a Liverpool fan
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 4:33pm On Jun 09, 2022
donjazet:

Yeah. My bad. You're correct. I was actually trying hard to remember where he was from.
We don't often see eye to eye but you've been doing yeoman's work lately.

Don't relent. In the face of hopelessness we'll do our bit. While those who can japa will go for it.


Planning to leave and advocating for good governance are not mutually exclusive.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:33pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


Lmao,interested but no bidding wars, signed before European league ended...

Salaries of both are littered on the interet cheesy

What is the bidding war on Nunez? How many clubs have submitted bids for Nunez? Signed before league ended because he made his decision early

What are these salaries on the internet per week?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:35pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


We have 6ucl more than your club and 19 league titles, thankfully those rats that went to the Catalonia wankerrs were not part of that history grin

Did you include this as part of messi's all grin, dead barka forever in Madrid's shadow cheesy

You think you can troll Messi , a player that’s greater than Liverpool cheesy cheesy


You might have 6 ucl ,that doesn’t make you greater than Barca ,A club that went 30 years without a league title is more than useless ,when they rate great clubs Barca is ahead of Liverpool

Oya how many ucl have Liverpool won in 8 years ,say e pass one cheesy

Coutinho suarez mascherano all left Liverpool and went to achieve what the useless club could not achieve in 30 years grin

All thanks to Chelsea for gifting you those 2 principal cups you won this season cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 4:36pm On Jun 09, 2022
drisham:

Thats a Liverpool fan

Klopp still wanted dembele for free but the salary was the issue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 4:36pm On Jun 09, 2022
macjireh:

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Question: who will be declared winner??...daz where problem will start from

Alright my friends Cc. raumdeuter,ibime,izzou, popizaino,BlueAngel444: Griffon ,Nezzjnr,BlueRayDick, Skimpledawg, d lineups are out for both PDP and APC the match has begun between both parties ....I will be dropping updates as d months come especially now dat we have a third force in Labour party...
NB:Tinubu will Neva be president...Take it to d bank
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 4:37pm On Jun 09, 2022
Kloppo:


We have 6ucl more than your club and 19 league titles, thankfully those rats that went to the Catalonia wankerrs were not part of that history grin

Did you include this as part of messi's all grin, dead barka forever in Madrid's shadow cheesy
They will still be disgraced in Europe next season. Every season they must be disgraced. Dead barka fans suppose to ask for permission before talking in football argument. Since I began watching football I have not seen a club collect eight goals in one champions league match. Now that Messi has gone they are going to be the Spanish nottigham forest.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:39pm On Jun 09, 2022
CAPdan21:

Ekuke players like Messi and Neymar abi...People receive 150m use am buy Van dijk and Alisson...Person use Neymar money buy two footed better than Mbappe dem-belle, no wonder dem dey cry

grin grin, we use the money from them sign vvd and Allison take do CORNER TAKEN QUICKLY and win UCL....them use their own enter debt
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 4:39pm On Jun 09, 2022
popizaino:
Your excuse that the white were under developing you would have been geniune if Malaysia, Indonesia,Singapore and other Asian tigers were not once a colony before.

Very good points.
We really need to stop blaming the whites for our own country's problem. We have had enough time to forge our own path but we were simply not awaken to our rights to demand good leadership.

Leadership is truly our problem. But it has to be said that us having bad leadership is a symptom of our collective mind diseases which are;

Tribalism
Religiosity and spiritualism.
Religious bigotry.
Ethnic jingoism
Sectarianism and mindless chauvinism.

These problems have nothing to do with the whites anymore. It's solely in our hands.

China has soo many ethnic groups within it and they are now the second richest country in the world.
India has soo many ethnic groups within it and they are the 5th richest country in the world.
Russia also has multiple ethnic groups within it and they're a world military power.

Disintegration IS NOT the solution to our problem.

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