Ibime:


Giroud is not a worse shooter than Griezmann. Giroud through on goal on his left foot is as dangerous as anything you wish to face. Giroud finishing is unquestionable, it's only lack of pace that does not allow him get in dangerous situations as often as Griezmann.

Son was not wide anything. One pass would have put Son one-on-one with Alison.

VVD took a calculated risk in an almost hopeless situation. His calculation worked, and he still rushed Sissoko at the appropriate time to unsettle his shot. He came out victorious and you are here crying more than the bereaved.

It's best you focus on Krychowiak and co in your tussle with Airmark, you cannot win war with VVD who pummeled your team just 2 weeks ago. We never heard you comment on VVD ever before till you saw Airmark hailing him.

Give any keeper or defender a chance to face either Griezmann or Giroud on the ground and most will rather not face Griezmann because he is sharper and has hurt many defence with his foot

The VVD defenders claimed it was intentional to let Sisokko shoot since VVD knew Sisoko was a worse shooter than Son just like Giroud is a worse shooter than Griezz. Howedes being a competent defender didnt wait to evaluate the poorer shooter, he simply went for the threat and not backing away to allow a shot on his goal

Howdes back away, Giroud miss target like he mostly does and we will be here hailing him like VVD

What was there to comment on VVD a 27yr old at Southampton and with enough spotlight on him we can see he isnt the second coming of Maldini as he is made to be

vs Bayern without VVD Liverpool kept a clean sheet which they couldnt when he came back

The inability to score was mainly on Sisoko and very little to do with any defensive skill of the guy who gave him a free pass to shoot

afrodoc2:
Dayo, VVD had the right idea in that situation.

1st thing was to try and delay the attackers until help arrived. He delayed them but help didn’t arrive.

2nd was the keep himself in between the attackers and prevent them using 1-2 pass to toss him around.

3rd was to make sure he showed Sissoko space on the left and prevent him coming in on his right foot.

He made a snap decision, took a calculated risk and it paid off.
He delayed the attack, kept the man with the ball on his weaker side, prevented the ball from getting to a more accomplished finisher.

All these you said was simply beause Sisokko was not competent enough to shoot on target like 95% of footballers would have done in this situation



For almost 5 seconds, Sisoko had a free run on goal given to him by a defender and that somehow translate to great defending

Like I said a keeper who spills a shot into a dangerous area and didnt get punished will claim he did it on purpose because he knew the attacker wont score

raumdeuter:

The VVD defenders claimed it was intentional to let Sisokko shoot since VVD knew Sisoko was a worse shooter than Son just like Giroud is a worse shooter than Griezz. Howedes being a competent defender didnt wait to evaluate the poorer shooter, he simply went for the threat and not backing away to allow a shot on his goal

Howdes back away, Giroud miss target like he mostly does and we will be here hailing him like VVD

The inability to score was mainly on Sisoko and very little to do with any defensive skill of the guy who gave him a free pass to shoot

Shush, he didn't give Sissoko no free shot. He rushed Sissoko at the appropriate moment, just when he took that shot which is what unnerved Sissoko.

He literally achieved the feat of marking two players without dividing himself in two.

This is the moment Sissoko took the shot. VVD had caught and unsettled him.

raumdeuter:


All these you said was simply beause Sisokko was not competent enough to shoot on target like 95% of footballers would have done in this situation



For almost 5 seconds, Sisoko had a free run on goal given to him by a defender and that somehow translate to great defending

Like I said a keeper who spills a shot into a dangerous area and didnt get punished will claim he did it on purpose because he knew the attacker wont score

Lol you are just being a hater in this case. This one dey too obvious.

VVD made the right decision tactically, maybe his execution in terms of the final closing down was not perfect but overall he made the right call.

VVD is not Maldini but that doesn’t mean everything he does is terrible.

Ibime:


Shush, he didn't give Sissoko no free shot. He rushed Sissoko at the appropriate moment, just when he took that shot which is what unnerved Sissoko.

He literally achieved the feat of marking two players without dividing himself in two.

This is the moment Sissoko took the shot. VVD had caught and unsettled him.

The ball had already gone off the foot of Sisoko before VVDs leg got there. Sisoko failed to hit a ball on target where many would have. It had nothing to do with VVD who gave him 5 seconds of free pass and almost an expressway to goal

A shooter being incompetent is not the same as a great defensive action

raumdeuter:



For almost 5 seconds, Sisoko had a free run on goal given to him by a defender and that somehow translate to great defending

That's what makes his action better than simply blocking a passing lane. Over the 5 seconds, he kept readjusting his body back and forth to keep the passing lane closed. Most defenders can block a passing lane once but to do it repeatedly by adjusting your body position and running trajectory repetitively requires a thinking defender.

It's not every mumu that run in straight lines like Boateng. Boateng does not have the intelligence to keep concentration and awareness of both players positions for that length of time. Without looking at Son, he tracked Sons run for a good 5 seconds while keeping cognisance of how the threat from Sissoko was developing. If Boateng try that, one of his brain cell will burst and he will collapse with brain aneurysm.

afrodoc2:
Lol you are just being a hater in this case. This one dey too obvious.
VVD made the right decision tactically, maybe his execution in terms of the final closing down was not perfect but overall he made the right call.
VVD is not Maldini but that doesn’t mean everything he does is terrible.

Will Maldini Allow an attacker free pass on goal bevause he has evaluated the other player to be less competent a shooter?

Ibime:


That's what makes his action better than simply blocking a passing lane. Over the 3 seconds, he kept readjusting his body back and forth to keep the passing lane closed. Most defenders can block a passing lane once but to do it repeatedly by adjusting your body position and running trajectory repetitively requires a thinking defender.

It's not every mumu that run in straight lines like Boateng. Boateng does not have the intelligence to keep concentration and awareness of both players positions for that length of time. Without looking at Son, he tracked Sons run for a good 3 seconds while keeping cognisance of how the threat from Sissoko was developing. If Boateng try that, one of his brain cell will burst and he will collapse with brain aneurysm.

Boateng has done this at a higher stage of the world cup and CL final before the age of 27. We are waiting for VVD to try it once in his career

At VVDs age, Bateng was already a CL and world cup winner with exceptional final performances what players like John terry nor VVD can point to in their entire career

Boateng CL and world cup winner by 26, At 26 VVD was still battling with the likes of Yoshida and Nathan Redmond in training

Boateng at a world cup final shackling strikers way better than Sisokko and Son

I'd say that was excellent and intelligent defending/play from Vvd. He was practically covering for 2 people at the same time. Brilliant.

raumdeuter:


Will Maldini Allow an attacker free pass on goal bevause he has evaluated the other player to be less competent a shooter?

This is not relevant to the discussion as VVD didn’t allow a free pass to goal.

And if we start using only Maldini standard to grade defenders then there will be no good defender playing currently.

Finally Maldini is not the standard for CBs, it is Don Franco. Put some respek on his name.

This is Boateng in a 3 vs 2 situation in a world cup final. He didn't go to block the man on the far end, he went for the guy who had the ball and disposessed him

Thats why he was able to win a world cup at 26 and not battle relegation at Southampton

afrodoc2:


This is not relevant to the discussion as VVD didn’t allow a free pass to goal.

What do you call this

raumdeuter:


2 vs 1, go for the guy with the ball but the amateur defender was dodging and allowed Sissoko a free shot, if not that Sisoko was foolish and couldnt get it on target

How is it an excellent decision to let a player approach your goal free, The same thing he did vs Gnabry and was put to shame last week

As good as Barca 2009 squad was,you could relegate them to Spanish second division if you were the coach.just look at the gibberish you spewing here.

popizaino:


As good as Barca 2009 squad was,you could relegate them to Spanish second division if you were the coach.just look at the gibberish you spewing here.

Point at the gibberish

Ibime:


lol. We even do such things in 5 a side till today even on weekly basis. You hold off diving in, block the passing lane and try force the player on his weaker foot, then dive in on him just when he's about to pull the trigger. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, it's just about reducing the risk. I expect any professional defender to do similar thing except mumu defender like Luiz who will dive in and ensure 100% chance of a goal, when you can reduce it to 50% like VVD did.

Raumdeuter has a different opinion

raumdeuter:


Point at the gibberish

The gibberish there is that you said a defender in a 2 vs 1 situation should go for the player with the ball? It will be foolish of him in this kind of scenario to do that especially when he is fully aware that going for the man with ball leaves the one without the ball fully unchallenged should the ball beat him.should Sissoko had scored self no sensible person would blame him because he did excellently well by driving the player with the ball to his weaker foot .



Who both of us share in common would be proud of this kind of defending and that his pep guardiola.

All these back and forth no dey necessary Jàre. Sissoko was a very bad attacker. Van Djik was blocking his line of pass to Son, the only sensible thing is to advance the ball towards the keeper while drifting the ball to the left. This will definitely force van Djik out of his present position except he wants to give Sissoko free way to score.

@Egbon Dayo, Van Djik did the only reasonable thing hoping the advancing player will be Uber useless and sure Sissoko was. Am sure if that was some sterling, sane, hazard or Sanchez advancing with the ball Van Djik would've gambled and go all in for the ball instead of staying in between the attacking player and the one who is expecting the pass.

In all Sissoko was poor and there is no excuse for it.

BlueRayDick:
All these back and forth no dey necessary Jàre. Sissoko was a very bad attacker. Van Djik did was blocking his line of pass to Son, the only sensible thing is to advance the ball towards the keeper while drifting the ball to the left. This will definitely force van Djik out of his present position except he wants to give Sissoko free way to score.

@Egbom Dayo, Van Djik did the only reasonable thing hoping the advancing player will be Uber useless and sure Sissoko was. Am sure if that was some sterling, sane, hazard or Sanchez advancing with the ball Van Djik would've gambled and go all in for the ball instead of staying in between the attacking player and the one who is expecting the pass.

In all Sissoko was poor and there is no excuse for it.

Walai,I was even irritated cos I don't see the point of arguing that incident
Dayo just like to dey argue for the sake of it....

Fvck it bloods ..Nipsey is dead

FBS:
I'd say that was excellent and intelligent defending/play from Vvd. He was practically covering for 2 people at the same time. Brilliant.

As obvious as it is, i really find it amusing that Dayo sees it differently.

raumdeuter:


All these you said was simply beause Sisokko was not competent enough to shoot on target like 95% of footballers would have done in this situation



For almost 5 seconds, Sisoko had a free run on goal given to him by a defender and that somehow translate to great defending

Like I said a keeper who spills a shot into a dangerous area and didnt get punished will claim he did it on purpose because he knew the attacker wont score

Nice defending by VVD.

Ibime:


lol. We even do such things in 5 a side till today even on weekly basis. You hold off diving in, block the passing lane and try force the player on his weaker foot, then dive in on him just when he's about to pull the trigger. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, it's just about reducing the risk. I expect any professional defender to do similar thing except mumu defender like Luiz who will dive in and ensure 100% chance of a goal, when you can reduce it to 50% like VVD did.

Thank you very much. Only a david luiz will do what the sentimental raumdeuter is asking van dijk to do. Although i didn't watch the match, but in a 2 vs 1 situation, that is the best thing to do.
Sentiments no allow raumdeuter breath.

raumdeuter:


How will Son who hasnt received the ball be a bigger threat than one with the ball and going towards the post

Your ignorance is ridiculous

this your statement sounds like what luiz would say.

raumdeuter:


You mean if Boateng or Laporte backed off and allowed an opponent to have an unchallenged shot on target from inside the box because he was busy concerned with blocking a player that was wide and allowing a player that was central to take a free shot on target he will be hailed as a master class

If people will not make VVD rectum their abode they will realize that was poor defending

Lets assume it was Rudiger or Lovren who did that, people will be here laughing at them but its VVD even is he shits in bed its not his fault he did it to give the bedsheet some nice scent

That's a 2 v 1 situation. It's almost helpless. One false step and Son is through on goal. It's not excellent defending per se, but VVD took a a gamble and it worked for him.


But no, it's VVD, so the defending is horrible.

Unlimited22:

That's a 2 v 1 situation. It's almost helpless. One false step and Son is through on goal. It's not excellent defending per se, but VVD took a a gamble and it worked for him.


But no, it's VVD, so the defending is horrible.

Meanwhile Boateng one on one na error

never mind 2 on 1

raumdeuter:

Give any keeper or defender a chance to face either Griezmann or Giroud on the ground and most will rather not face Griezmann because he is sharper and has hurt many defence with his foot

The VVD defenders claimed it was intentional to let Sisokko shoot since VVD knew Sisoko was a worse shooter than Son just like Giroud is a worse shooter than Griezz. Howedes being a competent defender didnt wait to evaluate the poorer shooter, he simply went for the threat and not backing away to allow a shot on his goal

Howdes back away, Giroud miss target like he mostly does and we will be here hailing him like VVD

What was there to comment on VVD a 27yr old at Southampton and with enough spotlight on him we can see he isnt the second coming of Maldini as he is made to be

vs Bayern without VVD Liverpool kept a clean sheet which they couldnt when he came back

The inability to score was mainly on Sisoko and very little to do with any defensive skill of the guy who gave him a free pass to shoot

That Howedes situation was a 2 v 2. There's every probability Boateng would've covered or cut out the pass to Griezmann. VVD had zero backup. I fail to see the parallel.

Because if VVD had had cover, I'd have been the first to lambast him for not going after the ball.

meanwhile world cup winning goalkeeper who actually player in the final has just been flopping anyhow

nihilistjnr:


Meanwhile Boateng one on one na error

never mind 2 on 1

I just Tire for this kind hatred. How can you expect any defender with half his wits on him to just jump into a tackle with an opposing player out of his sight, and with the player with the ball at least a yard away from him?

FBS:
We care not about sarcastic and silly comments. Argue with your keyboards.

Ojoro FC

That was excellent defending in that situation. Going straight at Sissoko would’ve been disastrous. He’d have passed immediately to Son who would’ve scored easily.

Sissoko could’ve also laid the pass ( in front of VVD) if his left foot was good enough but the defender took this into account.

He knew the intentions of Sissoko and his limitations and worked with that, while keeping Son at bay. simultaneously.

He made the right decisions. If he was faced with Son and Harry Kane, there’s no way that wouldn’t have resulted in a goal.

VVD didn’t put a step wrong in this instance, Dayo. No be everything be gragra.

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