Miremoses1:
benitez was part of the success though

Benitez was not part of anything.

He was a monumental failure. He was so bad that he had to be sacked midseason. . . No one could bear to stand and watch that colossal failure completely ruin our 2016 season.

Yonce:



Benitez was not part of anything.

He was a monumental failure. He was so bad that he had to be sacked midseason. . . No one could bear to stand and watch that colossal failure completely ruin our 2016 season.

try and understand what I wrote. He was sacked mid season, that's the reason why I said he won us a UCL trophy. He was part of it.

Miremoses1:
try and understand what I wrote. He was sacked mid season, that's the reason why I said he won us a UCL trophy. He was part of it.

did he coach any knockout stage

Miremoses1:
Seems like the board what to hand bale a contract extension.

I read that too, I wonder if Perez is trying to provoke Ronaldo

MoR2:
I read that too, I wonder if Perez is trying to provoke Ronaldo

Ron might end up leaving.

Yonce:



Benitez was not part of anything.

He was a monumental failure. He was so bad that he had to be sacked midseason. . . No one could bear to stand and watch that colossal failure completely ruin our 2016 season.

Benitez time here was not a failure, he was "okay" at worst and the farcical exit in copa del rey which was of no fault of his really dented his season coupled with his putting out his "best players" in el clasico and getting beaten 4-0 due to lack of a DM which was obviously a handiwork of the board telling him to use the biggest stars and names not the most effective and balanced eleven

His not being given a free reign and being controlled by the board was actually what lead to his failure but this was a blessing from the club as Perez had to change that style by giving more control to Zidane which made the team respect Zidane more and successes followed. Benitez was simply a casualty in a power tussle although he had his own issues. Had Zidane replaced Carlo he would also most likely have been fired too if he were given the Benitez treatment

AtYourCervix:


Benitez time here was not a failure, he was "okay" at worst and the farcical exit in copa del rey which was of no fault of his really dented his season coupled with his putting out his "best players" in el clasico and getting beaten 4-0 due to lack of a DM

His not being given a free reign and being controlled by the board was actually what lead to his failure but this was a blessing from the club as Perez had to change that style by giving more control to Zidane which made the team respect Zidane more and successes followed. Benitez was simply a casualty in a power tussle although he had his own issues. Had Zidane replaced Carlo he would also most likely have been fired too if he were given the Benitez treatment

Benitez that was playing Danilo ahead of Carvajal! Tell me something.

Benitez almost took us to the point of no return. Thank God he was sacked.

Benitez was a total failure at Real Madrid.

monerozi5590:


Benitez that was playing Danilo ahead of Carvajal! Tell me something.

Benitez almost took us to the point of no return. Thank God he was sacked.

This is part of what I was calling power tussle at the Bernabeu

He was playing Danilo cuz Danilo was a new signing bought for good money and the hierarchy always put pressure on the coach to play such signings. Its the same reason Benitez lined up an unbalanced 11 in clasico by using BBC Mod Kro James and benched a not so popular Casimiro who would've given us balance. its the board doing the controlling but the coach takes all the flak if it doesn't turn out well.

AtYourCervix:


This is part of what I was calling power tussle at the Bernabeu

He was playing Danilo cuz Danilo was a new signing bought for good money and the hierarchy always put pressure on the coach to play those such signings. Its the same reason Benitez lined up an unbalanced 11 in clasico by using BBC Mod Kro James and benched a not so popular Casimiro who would've given us balance. its the board doing the controlling but the coach takes all the flak if it doesn't turn out well.

Lol. Stop blaming the board for Benitez short coming.

The first thing that Zidane did after he took over was to bring back Carvajal into the starting lineup.
Under Benitez i cried watching Madrid play. U have Cavarjal on your team and you are playing Danilo.
Danilo keeps playing rubbish and you are still playing him ahead of Carvajal. I feel like punching him on the face when Madrid is playing.

Furthermore, He likes playing players out of position. Playing Bale as number 10, i nearly ran mad when i saw that.

He brought serious disunity into the squad. Wanting to build the team around Bale when CR7 is in the team.

Benitez was a total failure. everything about him at Real Madrid was a failure.

monerozi5590:



Lol. Stop blaming the board for Benitez short coming.

The first thing that Zidane did after he took over was to bring back Carvajal into the starting lineup.
Under Benitez i cried watching Madrid play. U have Cavarjal on your team and you are playing Danilo.
Danilo keeps playing rubbish and you are still playing him ahead of Carvajal. I feel like punching him on the face when Madrid is playing.

Furthermore, He likes playing players out of position. Playing Bale as number 10, i nearly ran mad when i saw that.

He brought serious disunity into the squad. Wanting to build the team around Bale when CR7 is in the team.

Benitez was a total failure. everything about him at Real Madrid was a failure.

Hehehehe

I don't know if you're being influenced by revisionism but I'm surprised you think that was Benitez team. You think Benitez had some personal vendetta against Carv and just wanted to keep playing an underperforming Danilo over him? who does that really? its obvious the board were telling him to use Danilo

Bale performed pretty well at the number 10 position and even gave us more balance, he was almost as awesome as he was in 2013/14 season. don't let revisionism blind you to that bro.

You're also forgetting he was the one that started introducing Lucas Vasquez into the team and tussled with the board into using Casemiro in place of James, the team had good results with this until the clasico rolled around and he played his big name 11 instead of best team 11, then came the farcical exit in copa del rey

You're free to judge his time here a failure but you'd be mistaken to think the same Benitez who was at Liverpool and Chelsea who took almost full control of the team and showed his mettle without caring much for the fans opinions and succeeding was the same Benitez that coached us. its obvious Benitez was not given free reign with the team and this made the players respect him less.

AtYourCervix:


Hehehehe

I don't know if you're being influenced by revisionism but I'm surprised you think that was Benitez team. You think Benitez had some personal vendetta against Carv and just wanted to keep playing an underperforming Danilo over him? who does that really? its obvious the board were telling him to use Danilo

Bale performed pretty well at the number 10 position and even gave us more balance, he was almost as awesome as he was in 2013/14 season. don't let revisionism blind you to that bro.

You're also forgetting he was the one that started introducing Lucas Vasquez into the team and tussled with the board into using Casemiro in place of James, the team had good results with this until the clasico rolled around and he played his big name 11 instead of best team 11, then came the farcical exit in copa del rey

You're free to judge his time here a failure but you'd be mistaken to think the same Benitez who was at Liverpool and Chelsea who took almost full control of the team and showed his mettle without caring much for the fans opinions and succeeding was the same Benitez that coached us. its obvious Benitez was not given free reign with the team and this made the players respect him less.

Kai!.. Bale gave us balance playing number 10?
It was the board that told Benitez to play Bale at number 10
It was the board that told Benitez to stop playing Carvjal.

Why didn't the same board stop Zidane from playing Carvajal ahead of Danilo?
Why did the same board question Zidane for benching Bale at some point?

To me, you are just assuming things.

monerozi5590:


Kai!.. Bale gave us balance playing number 10?
It was the board that told Benitez to play Bale at number 10
It was the board that told Benitez to stop playing Carvjal.

Why didn't the same board stop Zidane from playing Carvajal ahead of Danilo?
Why did the same board question Zidane for benching Bale at some point?

To me, you are just assuming things.

Exactly! I've already explained why already, Zidane was given more control! what they did with Benitez showed its not working so they changed their approach to Zidane

Also Bale wasn't really playing as a number 10, he was given a free role but starts at the number 10 behind Benz and Ronaldo just like Messi does for Barca, he wasn't a James 10 or Aimar 10 and his drifting took more responsibility for the attack

Anyways its okay, we can't all think the same way

AtYourCervix:


Exactly! I've already explained why already, Zidane was given more control! what they did with Benitez showed its not working so they changed their approach to Zidane

Also Bale wasn't really playing as a number 10, he was given a free role but starts at the number 10 behind Benz and Ronaldo just like Messi does for Barca, he wasn't a James 10 or Aimar 10 and his drifting took more responsibility for the attack

Anyways its okay, we can't all think the same way

Cervix. Wasn't Kovacic a summer signing too at the time Benitez came. In fact he was more expensive than Danilo.

How come the board didn't tell Benitez to play Kavacic ahead of Casimiro but told Benitez to play Danilo ahead of Carvajal?

Cervix, can you explain that please? considering the fact that both players are summer signings.

monerozi5590:



Cervix. Wasn't Kovacic a summer signing too at the time Benitez came. In fact he was more expensive than Danilo.

How come the board didn't tell Benitez to play Kavacic ahead of Casimiro but told Benitez to play Danilo ahead of Carvajal?

Cervix, can you explain that please? considering the fact that both players are summer signings.

That's pretty self explanatory. Kovačić was more of an understudy, a future player and rotation option

I'm not saying its a fact that board told Benitez to play Danilo but I'm looking at history, our board is notorious for pressuring coaches to use certain players and Benitez is known for playing players on merit. its pretty obvious if Benitez came in and kept playing an underperforming Danilo ahead of Carv (something he couldn't have done at Liverpool) then its sensible to see that he's being pressured to playing him

Do you know that that 3 to 4 months in charge of Real Madrid Benitez didn't have a steady first eleven.
He was confused with the squad he has and don't even know how to use them.Total unrest in the dressing room under his watch.

To him Danilo is better than Carvajal that's why he is playing him ahead of Carvajal. Stop saying the board did.

Benitez even stopped playing Isco after that incident. When Isco was laughing on the bench when a team scored against Real Madrid. That's to tell you he has some level of authority when it comes to team selection.

AtYourCervix:


Benitez time here was not a failure, he was "okay" at worst and the farcical exit in copa del rey which was of no fault of his really dented his season coupled with his putting out his "best players" in el clasico and getting beaten 4-0 due to lack of a DM which was obviously a handiwork of the board telling him to use the biggest stars and names not the most effective and balanced eleven

His not being given a free reign and being controlled by the board was actually what lead to his failure but this was a blessing from the club as Perez had to change that style by giving more control to Zidane which made the team respect Zidane more and successes followed. Benitez was simply a casualty in a power tussle although he had his own issues. Had Zidane replaced Carlo he would also most likely have been fired too if he were given the Benitez treatment

any manager that has to be told by the board how to manage isn't a good manager

AtYourCervix:


Exactly! I've already explained why already, Zidane was given more control! what they did with Benitez showed its not working so they changed their approach to Zidane

Also Bale wasn't really playing as a number 10, he was given a free role but starts at the number 10 behind Benz and Ronaldo just like Messi does for Barca, he wasn't a James 10 or Aimar 10 and his drifting took more responsibility for the attack

Anyways its okay, we can't all think the same way

Zidane wasn't given more control he took control and that's what good managers do, they let the board know they know what they are doing otherwise the board can as well manage the team themselves.

benitez case was a simple Moyes scenario where he left himself to be overwhelmed into making poor choices.

New Real Madrid coach's in-tray: Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale...

Whoever replaces Zinedine Zidane as Real Madrid's new head coach will have a few key issues that require his immediate attention.


Real Madrid are yet to appoint a successor to Zinedine Zidane, who made the surprise announcement of his departure as Bernabéu head coach on Thursday, but, whoever replaces the Frenchman will find several matters requiring his attention. Some, such as resolving the Cristiano Ronaldo situation and sorting out Gareth Bale's future, are of major significance.

The Cristiano Ronaldo issue

Without doubt the major fire that needs to be put out. Cristiano well and truly pooped Real Madrid's Champions League party when he told a post-match interview in Kiev: "It has been great playing for Madrid... I'll speak in the next few days." Some months ago, the Portuguese had gone as far as to say to team-mates that he was planning to leave Real. His grievances with the club stem from Florentino Pérez's post-2017 Champions League final promise of an improved contract , which Los Blancos' president then went back on. The situation has hardly been helped by Pérez's constant flirtation with Paris Saint-Germain's Neymar, either (one example of which came on the night of the Ballon d'Or gala, where CR7 was presented with his fifth Ballon d'or.) Meanwhile, the Real Madrid hierarchy are not happy with the player over his incendiary comments in Kiev, with the consensus being: It was not the time for that. During Real's trophy celebrations the day after the final, the fans made their feelings loud and clear to Ronaldo - and in the process, Pérez - by chanting, "Cristiano, please stay!"; chants that were echoed by his fellow players. Cristiano's camp expect him to be at Real next season, but Zidane's resignation adds uncertainty to the forward's future. The new boss will be tasked with helping to calm this storm.

Gareth Bale's future

Bale put a host of potential suitors on red alert straight after Real's Champions League win when he admitted that he wanted more regular football, telling reporters: "Obviously, I was very disappointed not to start the game [in Kiev], I felt that I deserved to, but it’s the manager who makes the decisions. Obviously I need to play every week, something that hasn’t been the case this season. I’ll have to sit down with my agent and talk about it." Despite Manchester United's interest, the Welshman opted to remain in Madrid last summer to give himself one last chance to truly explode at Real, but as the months passed he came to the realisation that that wasn't going to happen under Zidane, who left him on the bench on a host of big nights: both legs of the ties against PSG and Bayern Munich, the opener of Real's quarter-final with Juventus, and the final). Now, Zidane's decision to leave the club must feel like manna from heaven to the former Tottenham Hotspur man. He remains a favourite of the president, and this change of coach has suddenly shortened the odds of his Bernabéu career coming to a close this summer.

Real Madrid's goalkeeper

[b]The goalkeeping question has been a constant topic for debate since Iker Casillas left in 2015. That summer, Los Merengues were on the verge of signing David de Gea from Manchester United that August, only for the deadline-day deal to be embarrassingly scuppered by late-arriving paperwork. The Spaniard remained at Old Trafford and Keylor, who had been set to move in the opposite direction, stayed in Madrid. Yet despite the Costa Rican's general dependability between the sticks, he has never completely gained the trust of the club's hierarchy, who have continued to comb the market for a keeper. The likes of De Gea, Thibaut Courtois and Bernd Leno have all been linked with Real, while in January the European champions had all but agreed the signing o[/b]f Athletic Bilbao's Kepa Arrizabalaga, only for Zidane to put the brakes on the move. "I don't need a goalkeeper," declared 'Zizou', who never shared his bosses' desire to bring in another custodian. It will now be down to his replacement to sit down with the club and decide whether or not to strengthen in the position.

Neymar, signing a number nine...

[b]Real Madrid's disastrous LaLiga title defence, coupled with their premature elimination from the Copa del Rey at the hands of Leganés, led the club to the conclusion that, whether or not the team went on to win a third straight Champions League, the squad needed summer surgery. Responsibility for that process - one which Real's powers-that-be had counted on being able to carry out alongside Zidane - will now, in part, fall to his successor. There are a number of transfer-window issues to be resolved that are crucial to the team's future: the signing of Neymar ("I haven't asked for him," Zidane had even said), the debate over whether or not to buy a number nine who can compete with Karim Benzema, making a decision on Dani Ceballos (who was purchased last year for 16.5m euros having been labelled as one of Spanish football's great white hopes, and comprehensively failed to win Zidane's trust), sorting out the future of the players out on loan (such as Vinicius Junior, Raúl de Tomás, Martin Odegaard)...

[/b]

Miremoses1:
New Real Madrid coach's in-tray: Cristiano Ronaldo, Gareth Bale...

Whoever replaces Zinedine Zidane as Real Madrid's new head coach will have a few key issues that require his immediate attention.


Real Madrid are yet to appoint a successor to Zinedine Zidane, who made the surprise announcement of his departure as Bernabéu head coach on Thursday, but, whoever replaces the Frenchman will find several matters requiring his attention. Some, such as resolving the Cristiano Ronaldo situation and sorting out Gareth Bale's future, are of major significance.

The Cristiano Ronaldo issue

Without doubt the major fire that needs to be put out. Cristiano well and truly pooped Real Madrid's Champions League party when he told a post-match interview in Kiev: "It has been great playing for Madrid... I'll speak in the next few days." Some months ago, the Portuguese had gone as far as to say to team-mates that he was planning to leave Real. His grievances with the club stem from Florentino Pérez's post-2017 Champions League final promise of an improved contract , which Los Blancos' president then went back on. The situation has hardly been helped by Pérez's constant flirtation with Paris Saint-Germain's Neymar, either (one example of which came on the night of the Ballon d'Or gala, where CR7 was presented with his fifth Ballon d'or.) Meanwhile, the Real Madrid hierarchy are not happy with the player over his incendiary comments in Kiev, with the consensus being: It was not the time for that. During Real's trophy celebrations the day after the final, the fans made their feelings loud and clear to Ronaldo - and in the process, Pérez - by chanting, "Cristiano, please stay!"; chants that were echoed by his fellow players. Cristiano's camp expect him to be at Real next season, but Zidane's resignation adds uncertainty to the forward's future. The new boss will be tasked with helping to calm this storm.

Gareth Bale's future

Bale put a host of potential suitors on red alert straight after Real's Champions League win when he admitted that he wanted more regular football, telling reporters: "Obviously, I was very disappointed not to start the game [in Kiev], I felt that I deserved to, but it’s the manager who makes the decisions. Obviously I need to play every week, something that hasn’t been the case this season. I’ll have to sit down with my agent and talk about it." Despite Manchester United's interest, the Welshman opted to remain in Madrid last summer to give himself one last chance to truly explode at Real, but as the months passed he came to the realisation that that wasn't going to happen under Zidane, who left him on the bench on a host of big nights: both legs of the ties against PSG and Bayern Munich, the opener of Real's quarter-final with Juventus, and the final). Now, Zidane's decision to leave the club must feel like manna from heaven to the former Tottenham Hotspur man. He remains a favourite of the president, and this change of coach has suddenly shortened the odds of his Bernabéu career coming to a close this summer.

Real Madrid's goalkeeper

[b]The goalkeeping question has been a constant topic for debate since Iker Casillas left in 2015. That summer, Los Merengues were on the verge of signing David de Gea from Manchester United that August, only for the deadline-day deal to be embarrassingly scuppered by late-arriving paperwork. The Spaniard remained at Old Trafford and Keylor, who had been set to move in the opposite direction, stayed in Madrid. Yet despite the Costa Rican's general dependability between the sticks, he has never completely gained the trust of the club's hierarchy, who have continued to comb the market for a keeper. The likes of De Gea, Thibaut Courtois and Bernd Leno have all been linked with Real, while in January the European champions had all but agreed the signing o[/b]f Athletic Bilbao's Kepa Arrizabalaga, only for Zidane to put the brakes on the move. "I don't need a goalkeeper," declared 'Zizou', who never shared his bosses' desire to bring in another custodian. It will now be down to his replacement to sit down with the club and decide whether or not to strengthen in the position.

Neymar, signing a number nine...

[b]Real Madrid's disastrous LaLiga title defence, coupled with their premature elimination from the Copa del Rey at the hands of Leganés, led the club to the conclusion that, whether or not the team went on to win a third straight Champions League, the squad needed summer surgery. Responsibility for that process - one which Real's powers-that-be had counted on being able to carry out alongside Zidane - will now, in part, fall to his successor. There are a number of transfer-window issues to be resolved that are crucial to the team's future: the signing of Neymar ("I haven't asked for him," Zidane had even said), the debate over whether or not to buy a number nine who can compete with Karim Benzema, making a decision on Dani Ceballos (who was purchased last year for 16.5m euros having been labelled as one of Spanish football's great white hopes, and comprehensively failed to win Zidane's trust), sorting out the future of the players out on loan (such as Vinicius Junior, Raúl de Tomás, Martin Odegaard)...

[/b]

Poch is a possibility

Who else notice that Cr7 is yet to model our New Jersey

Yonce:



Benitez was not part of anything.

He was a monumental failure. He was so bad that he had to be sacked midseason. . . No one could bear to stand and watch that colossal failure completely ruin our 2016 season.

the question I want am answer to is why was he even employed, was benitez the best Perez could get for us.

2015, we sack ancelotti to hire benitez, we didn't even consider Klopp then, it was a benitez that finished fifth with Napoli we got.

I just hope history doesn't repeat itself and we get Conte, yes a serial winner and probably the best available option but can he manage the egos in Madrid

LosVikingos:



Poch is a possibility

who would have thought by this time we would be discussing getting a new manager just after celebrating UCL.

Honestly I would prefer Conte to Poch, the only thing Poch has over Conte is that he sets his team to attack.

Conte has more experience with managing top players and controlling a dressing room. Conte wins titles. The gravity of the work at hand might not suit Poch at all and may overwhelm him.

Low just said no way he is gonna coach Real Madrid.
Perez please get Allegri for me.

monerozi5590:
Low just said no way he is gonna coach Real Madrid.

Perez please get Allegri for me.

AHHHHHH I ALMOST FORGOT THE GREAT

Massimiliano Allegri

The BEST option, only if he is willing and Juventus let him leave. That would be the best news after us winning UCL

MoR2:


AHHHHHH I ALMOST FORGOT THE GREAT

Massimiliano Allegri

The BEST option, only if he is willing and Juventus let him leave. That would be the best news after us winning UCL

I tell you bro. He is so good that he took almost a dead team in Ac Milan to win Seria A.

I don't support anyone but AtYourCervix makes good points that revisionist knowledge may not let people see.

Zidane was not supposed to be long term so it is not like the board could control him. He was supposed to steady the ship and see out the remainder 6 months while Perez found a new Manager but Zidane ended up winning the UCL.

So the reality is, that lineup against Barca that RM got walloped 4-0 was strange because everyone knew that was not the team he had used prior. It was clear there was some overarching influence in the team selection and Beni hinted at it after leaving Madrid. (He signed a gag order so could not go full throttle on the exposé).

LosVikingos:
Who else notice that Cr7 is yet to model our New Jersey

he didn't take part in modelling the new kit because his a Nike ambassador and also he wasn't in town when the club show cased the new Jersey, that was last two months.