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Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Emperoh(m): 7:32am On May 20, 2012 |
More revelations!!! A lot of carelss talk. It is quite unfortunate that dis happened. I wonder if Lekky was aware dis car's engine has been worked on? So so so sad! I feel for u Lekky! |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by damola1: 9:26am On May 20, 2012 |
Abuja4sale: DRIVER STORY; “The Naked Truth is better than the best dressed lies” Anyone who buys a car from you is in for it. Cos, you are a monkey. I prepared the legal document for the transfer and I told Damola on Alhaji’s phone that the “deed of sales” is to be paid by the seller that I charges N50, 000 for the stamped document, though Damola promised that when I come to Lagos we shall negotiate. I told you on the phone, I wouldn't pay for anything else. This same document would be done for less than N500, typed out A4 page, with 2 N50 stamps. So, please. I got to Berger by 7am but was surprised that Damola was no where to be found. I called Alhaji and he promised to call Damola to find out why? Alhaji called me back that Damola said he cannot bring the car to Berger as agreed that I should come to 1, Modupe Street, Adeniyi Jones Ikeja. Monkey, how can you buy a 2M car, that you've not inspected and expect to do a roadside exchange. Where did you come from man?.. Please note Damola was driving while his friend was by his side and I was seated at the back seat as we were going I noticed seven lights (check engine, airbag, abs, fuel, vcr?, bad alignment and one other signal) shows on the dashboard and I observed the driving was not smooth. I told Damola to enter the AP Filling Station closer to his office to do the wheel balancing and alignment. But I received the shock of my life when Damola told the technician that he cannot pay N3,500 for both wheel balancing and alignment that the technician should go ahead with only alignment which cost N1,000. That he had brought a Belgium tire two days ago plus Like I said, anyone that works with you is in for it, you are a monkey. You had the power & capacity to halt the sale, the vehicle was brought, you checked everything before we signed the deed of sales in my office. I asked you specifically do you want to drive the car, and you declined. And Even after we signed, I asked you to drive at least 2 more times, and you still declined. Do you think you can do all this on your roadside berger? Shock of your life?... I informed the buyer I wouldn't spend a dime on the vehicle 3 days earlier, but still went ahead to buy him a tire.
You are an incompetent fool that's costing me and the owner a lot of money. All you had to do was call me immediately it started, and returned the car back, Even though I had signed and done the deal, I would have gladly arranged for a refund. Monkey, how do you expect to take a car from Lagos to Abuja when the temp. started rising. Are your daft or what?... Or maybe you are just high on the pure water... Your stories are so long, am lost already.... Like I said from day 1. Return the car and get a refund, this monkey knows my residence and also my office, he didn't have to know, cos he wanted it to be done in Berger, and I know their company too. Anyway, I have warned you never to communicate with me again.... It's very tough to talk to people that cannot make a statement without calling names. Heck, beats me, how can a 'car dealer' not know how to get his job done? |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Busybody2(f): 10:09am On May 20, 2012 |
After all's been said and done, the four of you are to blame here. Well technically Alhaji K should be absolved of any blame cos his only crime was to rely on blind faith as well as the endorsement by "the oracle" . . .but Alhaji K's obvious predilection to er. . .eni-nwa-ifa. . . too-good-to-be-true-cheap frill played a part too, hence reason he threw caution to the wind and dove right in, against the dictates of commonsense. . . FINAL VERDICT: Alhaji K ~ 100% of the blame for covetousness and carelessness minus 50% for trust = 50% for the whole blame. The Oracle ~ For rubberstamping not only the ”origin”, but also the "lifetime", haba what were you thinking or rather why were you not thinking! I don't blame Alhaji K for twice coyly mentioning that your involvement on Damola's thread as the force majeure that gave him the reassurance to go ahead with the transaction. Therefore, 10% of the blame is meandering its way to you. The two remaining parties can share the blame anyhow they deem fit, but IMHO Damola1 is 25% to blame, whilst Abuja4sale should bear 15% of the blame, I refuse to buy that lame excuse up there that it only dawned on you that you had been sold a lemon only after the mechanic who diagnosed the burnt top cylinder gasket was summoned a day later. . .but to be fair on you, you were strictly solely acting under the orders of Alhaji K. Alhaji K, your utmost trust in your fellow human being did not go amiss, and you need to be commended for this. Keep it up. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Lekky2: 10:10am On May 20, 2012 |
Dear All, I think it is better at this point to advice all parties involved to eschew our bitterness, sheath our swords and stop hurling abusive language at one another.We should also be mature in the way we talk to ourselves on NL because he whole world is watching.Let us try as much as possible not to wash our dirty linen in the public. It has happened, it has happened, let us all agree to a mutual and understanding solution and move forward. To err they is human, but to forgive is divine.So,let us learn to repect each other views on this matter. No idea is right or wrong and that is the way i see it. We should be happy that it is money that is lost in this matter and not life.In 2009, i lost a whopping N1.2m to armed robbers who trailed me from GTBank(Dugbe branch) in Ibadan to my site at Irewolede estate in Soka,Ibadan at gun point.I was lucky not to be shut because the rest would have been history.But i was able to move on and put the issue behind me and glory be to God, i have done transactions worth of millions of Naira after then.But if life had been lost, i would not be alive to achieve what i had achieved today or be where i am today not to talk of even tell the story.In life, we learn everyday and as each day passes by, we will continue to be learning until we enter the grave.(This is one of the principle of islam) But in my usual gentle man kindedness, i have written a mail to Damola yesternight of which inspired motor was copied, telling him that it had been sdvised that a replacement engine be installed if the vehicle has to be back on road, as all efforts geared at getting it started proved abortive. I had decided to waive all previous expenses i had incurred on the car in the past, but propose to Damola in my mail that the cost of the installation of the replacement engine (and this include purchase of engine + xportation cost + workmanship) be shared by the two of us 50-50, which to me i think is fair enough (Though i stand to be corrected if wrong)Though Damola has agreed to my proposition, but i am yet to forward to him as requested the cost implication of the replacement angine which i promise to forward to him as soon as i have it. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Lekky2: 8:07pm On May 21, 2012 |
Dear All, This is to give you the update on the replacement engine of the controversial 08 RAV 4. The cost implication of replacing the engine with transportaion and workmanship was put at a total cost of 320k.I have written Damaola 1 on this and he has conceded in the affirmative that the cost will be borne 50-50 as agreed by us. He has requested for my bank account and that he will be paying his own part of the obligation on Wednesday and that he will also like to have the old engine removed from the car back of which i promised to do so.The only bottle neck here will be how the engine will get to him from Ibadan being present location of the vehicle.But i promise to try my possible best on this. Anyway i have furnished him with my account number and equqlly promised to scan and attach the invoice of engine purchased and all other incidental expenses that makes the total estimated cost on this thread. I have also advice that he equally scan and attach the teller with which he used to make payment into my account on this thread to show fulfilment of his own part of the obligation. Inspired motors is being copied in each of the mails we exchanged. I promise to give you update as event unfold. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Martini101(m): 7:37am On May 22, 2012 |
Chai. This Alhaji is too good, He is considering giving Damola d Bad Engine!! Alhaji, why nt put d Engine inside d boot of ur car, carry it to Abuja and sell it to Engine parts dealer. Atleast to recoup some of ur money. My candid Advice. 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 8:02am On May 22, 2012 |
It is particularly sad that nearly everyone on this thread has discounted the very essence of Salesmanship - TRUST , rather we have focused on blaming Alhaji for not inspecting a car before buying it. I suspect that a lot of posters on this thread are actually car dealers and cannot bring themselves to the point of beign a buyer. It is a pathetic excuse we are all making for damola and it is a sad development for Nairaland Autos. If you all think that this issue will rest with this thread - you are dead wrong, a lot of viewers have made the realization that they cannot TRUST every Auto-sales Post they read on Nairaland. It is even more sad that many have actually gone to inspect the so-called CLEAN, MINT, PERFECT, CHILLING cars - have been disappointed. I know one Highlander in Festac on Nairaland that is similar to what Alhaji bought. The pictures posted are different from the actual car and it had more than superficial problems. The real owner could not be found after they pressured me to sign a cheque for the full amount to a 3rd party. This poster is still very much on Nairaland and one Nairalander will buy this car and be in a similar situation. I wonder why we cannot bring ourselves to accept the plain fact that this Damola character is not Trustworthy, rather we blame a man who Trusted him well enough to pay him N2million for trash. Na waooo. 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by 3ace(m): 10:13am On May 22, 2012 |
I have been following this thread ever before the title was changed. So interesting; it's like I'm watching a movie ![]() Seriously, I'm impressed that this dispute is gradually reaching a peaceful end particularly without the intervention of lawyers and police. Like I said before, this development and other unfortunate cases on Nairaland will not deter me from patronising this forum. All I need to do is follow the rules of vehicle purchase. Alhaji, Damola, keep the update coming. We're waiting. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by seyigiggle: 11:36am On May 22, 2012 |
I HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE, BUT I DID NOT ASKED FOR A REFUND BUT CARRY THE CROSS (HIGH TEMP). MY ADVICE TO ANY ONE, DRIVE ANY CAR YOU INTEND TO PURCHASE ON EXPRESSWAY ON 120KM BEROFRE YOU MAKE PAYMENT. THATS IS MY DEAL, NO MIND ON FUEL |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Lekky2: 1:01pm On May 22, 2012 |
@ martini101, I will still give the old engine to damola as requested by him.It is still his own and not mine since he is contributing to the purchase of the replacement engine.I dont need the old engine as there is nothing i am going to do with it. He has shown some level of matruity and sense of transparency on the whole issue so far to an extent. At least replying my sms, mails and still contributing to this thread. What if he decided to bolt-away and swith off his phone after katakata burst like what most Nigerian seller will do,when this kind of problem happens. So let me display my own level of maturity and transparency too since he has displayed his. @ 3ace I have promise to give all neccessary update on the whole saga to the point of conclusion. 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Emperoh(m): 1:26pm On May 22, 2012 |
lagerwhenindoubt: It is particularly sad that nearly everyone on this thread has discounted the very essence of Salesmanship - TRUST , rather we have focused on blaming Alhaji for not inspecting a car before buying it. I suspect that a lot of posters on this thread are actually car dealers and cannot bring themselves to the point of beign a buyer. It is a pathetic excuse we are all making for damola and it is a sad development for Nairaland Autos. If you all think that this issue will rest with this thread - you are dead wrong, a lot of viewers have made the realization that they cannot TRUST every Auto-sales Post they read on Nairaland. It is even more sad that many have actually gone to inspect the so-called CLEAN, MINT, PERFECT, CHILLING cars - have been disappointed. I know one Highlander in Festac on Nairaland that is similar to what Alhaji bought. The pictures posted are different from the actual car and it had more than superficial problems. The real owner could not be found after they pressured me to sign a cheque for the full amount to a 3rd party. This poster is still very much on Nairaland and one Nairalander will buy this car and be in a similar situation. Chairman Thanks for your input. I really appreciate your observation. You are one of the few person i respect on this forum, i don't know why ![]() ![]() ![]() You see, i really get worried when issues like this crop up because without some of our dealers knowing it, it is our business that gets to suffer. You don't really get to know until you deal with someone who doesn't trust you or your judgement(this is the worst). Or when you lose sales to a rival who you are dead sure doesn't have as much quality cars as you do. I was surprised that given the vituperations pouring in from incensed buyers or observers, no dealer bar a few made any attempt to put things in perspective. The seller was never, has never been, but may intend to be a dealer. But for the case in point, he is not one. Hence i find it hard to swallow when people lump us all up, either as a pre-conceived notion or a reading carelessness. Whichever it is, it doesn't favour me as a dealer or any dealer for that matter. But my main grouse is the issue of trust. I thank God for one thing; the seller didn't keep mute. He came back to at least salvage whatever is left of his name. I really pity him cos from my little 'ignorance', I want to believe he did not set out to sell a lemon to the buyer, but is guilty and is paying for not fully revealing the condition or history of the unit he sold. He is paying for that now. Maybe if that car hadn't over heat along the road, we may never have heard of this deal till today. I am also worried because i know that the future of sales in digital. People needn't leave the comfort of their homes or offices to buy or sell their wares; cars inclusive. And this can only be achieved when trust in entrenched. Therefore i shudder to think what will happen in this age of e-commerce if buyers can't trust sellers to fully disclose the condition or the exact situation their goods are in. We are already seeing the result in what Inspired M is doing here; clearing all the pre-order deals on Nairaland, simply because people can trust his final product. I urge him to keep up the game and never falter. Someone like me is also working hard to be sure i attain and surpass that standard. It is for this reason that i find it hard to believe that people are bashing Lekky 2 for his decision to buy sans inspection. At least from his experience, he has done a deal like this before and it worked out well. Finally, you observers and buyers owe us a lot. U discovered something terrible that someone else is likely to fall into and u are keeping mute! WHY?? Expose the damn dealer and blacklist him ![]() It is to user credit that some level of exposure and openness is being attached to car sales here. People will have to disclose VIN and other issues with their cars to advertise. It is to our credit that Lekky 2 came back and is getting justice for what was done wrongly to him. I can assure you, you will hardly come by such a positive feedback from road side deals. If you do, let me know where you got such so i can go commend the person involved. Hence, in as much as we think dealers are fraudulent, it is up to us to expose those who take advantage of us all. Those who know me will tell u that even if u approach me to buy a car and i don't have what you are looking for, that parting shot from me will be tips on how to buy the right unit. Whatever be the case,we can only get better with time. We are not yet there, but with continuous, conscious effort, we will get there in a short time. IT IS WELL WITH US! |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Lekky2: 3:31pm On May 22, 2012 |
Thanks Emperoh. I appreciate your comment. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Martini101(m): 9:01pm On May 22, 2012 |
Lekky 2: @ martini101,.@lekky. like i said, U re a good man. Since itz ur choice to give him the engine, who am i cos i know most people wont even try such after this 'experience'. As for him, switching his phone on U, that is impossible since U know his office and residence. @Damola. Try everything possible to make up with Lekky cos his type is very rare currently in Naija.@Driver. The bulk of the problem lies with U 4 trying to drive an overheating car with Radiator coolant and a bag of pure water from Lagos to Abuja. @ All, letz make Nigeria a better place |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 10:28pm On May 22, 2012 |
The driver said he was familiar with some v6 engine cars he has driven in which their temp gauge stay in the middle through out a journey(i don't know about that),beside he said the temperature gauge was at the least when the car stopped working meaning,the gauge was deceptive(not in good order),i once blamed the driver before he narrated his side of the story. @all,na God go help us all o |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 6:42am On May 23, 2012 |
Alhaji has damola paid? anytime i read this thread i remember damola the con artist..hahaha 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by gulfer: 6:47am On May 23, 2012 |
Temistatics 007: The driver said he was familiar with some v6 engine cars he has driven in which their temp gauge stay in the middle through out a journey(i don't know about that),beside he said the temperature gauge was at the least when the car stopped working meaning,the gauge was deceptive(not in good order),i once blamed the driver before he narrated his side of the story.Good observation, unfortunately Alhaji may have more than the engine to swap out of the vehicle. This calls to question why the road safety / police so not have a database for vehicles to prevent issues like this. There should be a full disclosure clause introduced for all transactions if the csshless policy is to take effect or else, I fear the worst. If you buying a salvage car in the US, the damage is categorised and the buyer can make his choice. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Africaine(f): 2:13pm On May 23, 2012 |
damola decieved the buyer,the buyer has no fault except for trusting that people still had intergrity,and am very sure he wouldnt have paid if inspired didnt put in a word about the history of the vehicle,besides imspired was innocently talking about the history before it arrived america. the seller is fraudlent and should be banned from selling or advertising any type of vehicle be it personal or otherwise,he should return the alhaji 2million in full with no conditions attached,go and pick ur vehicle and stop talking trash about waiting till its sold before u refund the buyers money,fraudster!!! alhaji,dont even try to do anything again,just let him pick his dead beat of a car,collect ur money,lick ur wounds and move on,stop trying to be too nice,except ur a billionaire or sumtin...and 2million is chicken feed!!! damola the fraudster,shame on you 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Nobody: 2:59pm On May 23, 2012 |
Have been reading all through. Kai, Alhaji is a pure gentleman! Damola, you get luck o! I can only hope you refund his money sha. And this should serve as a serious warning to those selling bad vehicles on NL #GODISWATCHINYOU# cuz your own might just meet a waterloo. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by 3ace(m): 10:36pm On May 23, 2012 |
Africaine: damola decieved the buyer,the buyer has no fault except for trusting that people still had intergrity,and am very sure he wouldnt have paid if inspired didnt put in a word about the history of the vehicle,besides imspired was innocently talking about the history before it arrived america. Madam Africana, similar comments like yours graced the early pages of this thread when this controversy was still hot. I'm sorry, such is absolutely needless at this point in time. I don't think Alhaji will even read your post twice given the fact that his fair compromise to Damola has been accepted and receiving applause from us all. So please, let them be. What we should be doing right now is to encourage them to stick to their promises and end this peacefully. I'm not going to insult anybody but one positive thing about this whole issue is that Damola values his reputation making this resolution easier. I strongly believe that they'll work it out. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Lekky2: 9:16am On May 24, 2012 |
Dear Nairalanders, I would like to update you with the latest on my 08 RAV4 saga. Damola actually valued his reputation so much as has been said/envisaged by most of you and has proved it by making a deposit of 135k into my gtb account yesterday. He then sent me an e-mail immediately stating his reason for the shortfall(which i did not see until this morning)and that the balance of 25k will be paid later today.He equally apologise for the late payment.I just replied his mail saying i will be expecting the payment of the balance of 25k today as promised. Inspired_m was copied in both mails and i will like to use this forum to commend Mr. inspired for his intervention in this matter. He lises very well between the two of us making sure that both of us come to a mutual understanding and that the issue is best resolved without any hitches. i want to categorically state here that, with the steps Damola has taken on this matter so far, i can conveniently do business with him in future, and therefore recommending him to any Nlder who may like to engage his service. Like i said in my previous mail, He is unlike some Nigerians who will dash away immediately, problems happen on transaction they make. At least he is not a car dealer and so is easier for him to bolt away. It is unfortunate that both of us learnt our lessons in the hard way as we both lost some money in this transaction. Anyway that is business.It cannot be a win-win situation all the time,At times we win some,or loose some. Even though the cost estimate for the engine given went up a little when the mechanic got to ladipo market due to the fact tha the engine which the price was given to him on phone was not that too good,when they finally saw the engine at the market. But i had told Damola not to worry about that, since we had already reched an agreement.Any other increament arsing there of will be borne by me as i am ready to carry the cross. I will give you an update as soon as he makes the balance payment later today. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by blank(f): 10:31am On May 24, 2012 |
Abeg carry your gbese Rav 4 dey go. When in 6 months, u have spent more than the cost of a new Rav 4 then you can return to Mr value his reputation and buy another one. Can this thread just be locked abeg?
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Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by gulfer: 10:56am On May 24, 2012 |
blank: Abeg carry your gbese Rav 4 dey go. When in 6 months, u have spent more than the cost of a new Rav 4 then you can return to Mr value his reputation and buy another one.Most irresponsible comment i have seen on NL. Why did you have to comment when all you've spewed is t.hrash! |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by blank(f): 11:03am On May 24, 2012 |
gulfer: Most irresponsible comment i have seen on NL. Why did you have to comment when all you've spewed is t.hrash! How is it your business? |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by gulfer: 11:29am On May 24, 2012 |
blank:It is my business for the same reason it is your own business to have requested the thread closed ![]() |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by blank(f): 11:37am On May 24, 2012 |
gulfer: It is my business for the same reason it is your own business to have requested the thread closed Be here exchanging word with a woman when your mates are bringing in money for their families. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by gulfer: 12:07pm On May 24, 2012 |
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Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by cardoctor(m): 2:24pm On May 24, 2012 |
I cant believe that you guys are still arguing on this matter. Abeg next time you want to buy a car and you lack experience of what to look out for, simply call on a vehicle diagnostics expert to check it out for you. A lot of people have fallen victim to this "under the carpet sweeping" car sellers and we have seen a lot coming into our workshop of recent. Caveat Emptor. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by Lekky2: 9:02am On May 25, 2012 |
Dear Nairalanders, This is to inform you all that Damola 1 has fulfilled his promise by making the balance payment of 25k into my account last night. I want to use this forum to say a big "Thank you" to him for his understanding and support so far on this issue and look forward to doing more business with him. My special thank goes to Inspired motor too for the intervention role he played in the matter ensuring that the two of us come to a mutual understanding without any hitches. My special thank also goes to all Nairalanders who contributed in one way or the other for your avice, enlightenment etc etc on this issue. The car in question has been started yesterday after installing the replacement engine and it will be delivered to Abuja by my Mechanic who did the work on Saturday or Sunday. Based on all your advice, i will be sending someone by flight to Lagos today to thoroughly inspect and investigate another vehicle (which iintend to buy again (For my wife biz) on NL, since i now realise that it is always better & safer to send someone to carry out a thorugh Inspection of vehicles advertised on NL before making any committment most especially when the advert look too good to be true (like Emperoh will say) On a final note, i want to say a big thank you to all of you and God bless. 1 Like |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by pannyman(m): 9:58am On May 25, 2012 |
The buyer is a very wise man to have bought a 2m naira car used in Nigeria from a stranger without first inspecting it. Case closed. |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by ACM10: 12:59am On Jun 06, 2012 |
blank: Abeg carry your gbese Rav 4 dey go. When in 6 months, u have spent more than the cost of a new Rav 4 then you can return to Mr value his reputation and buy another one. lol @ gbese Rav4 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Make Sure You Inspect Vehicles Before You Buy Them by dcglagos(m): 2:49pm On Oct 02, 2012 |
Hello,please can you advice on how to go about a 2007 Lifan car engine diagnosed with MAP and injector problems.I made up my mind to sell off the car but just in case the engine needs be replaced with another engine,which car brand(model)engine would you advice I seek to buy(VIN: LLV2A3A1260012545) brendanapata@yahoo.com 08023134965 txswat: @ Lekky 2 what is the VIN of the car so I can give you an idea of what the engine would cost? |
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