alexleo: yeah its foolishness for us to think that God who created the body and the spirit has no power to create fire that can burn the spirit. Lets not allow foolish reasoning to limit God's power. Using the fire that burns the human body to compare to that of the spirit man is a height of foolishness. For example, the fire that burns a firewood which is ordinary fire cannot melt an iron. Yet there is heat of fire that burns iron. The heat is not the same as that of wood. If human could be creative enough to develop this things is it God the creator that we ll now begin to think that he wont be creative enough create a fire that can torment the soul which is the spirit man? He has said it in the scriptures and its true. Wether anybody believes it or not is immaterial because those who have died without Christ are there now burning. God has given some people the privillege of seeing these things and coming back to life to testify of its reality. Again wether you people want to believe it or not doesnt change anything rather when you die you ll find that its true but too late for you. May God help you.

Jenwitemi: Do you realize that you are the foolish and the unreasonable one here with the answers you have provided? If that is not clear to you by now, it would've been clear to your fellow christians already. Two different fires? I have never heard such a crock of BS in my entire life.

I find it very amusing at how hard you try to keep the flames of the hellfire burning within your christian beliefs. You are literally bending backwards to keep the belief in such a horrible place alive. Is hell really that important to the Christian theology? If so, what does that tell you about the said theology?

And, btw, you have not told us how the immaterial spirit self can be burned. Physical bodies can be burned, but spirits cannot. Do we agree on that?

logicboy:

What even makes the scriptures holy? What is holy about leveticus and its promotion of homophobia and slavery?

The holy scriptures is fairy tales. There is no proof of hell or heaven.


Let's examine the idiotic belief in heaven and hell;

A rapist-robber comes to rape and steal from an atheist lady. The atheist lady is raped and killed. The atheist lady goes to hell

The robber goes to prison and then repents and converts to christianity. He helps fellow inmates to do good. He goes to heaven.

The rapist goes to heaven while the innocent woman goes to hell. Praise tha non-existent God!

Jenwitemi: Maybe you could live the preaching and actually answer the question asked of you. If i am right that you do not have a clue, then i ask you how you can allow yourself to believe such fairy tales created specially by occult groups to coerce you into believing a dogma built on lies? How can you people do that to yourselves? How do you live with yourselves and the lies you have been told? The worst thing you can do to yourselves is lie to yourselves and live a life of lies.

I hope you break free very soon for the sake of your mind and soul, bro, for the soul is a priceless gift given to you to guard and protect from such mind viruses. Get well soon, olaadegbu. And i mean that with utmost sincerity.

ijawkid: There's no realm as hellfire....
Its a myth....

When the scriptures uses fire it is everly symbolic...

When it does use everlasting fire it becomes even more symbolic....


My fellow christians in d house I would like to ask some few questions ...

IS d city of sodom and gomorrah still burning

And from pictures and videos I've always noticed that satan is depicted as been in a hell fire holding a pitch fork waiting for his cohorts...lol

Is that correct too??

Because from d scriptures satan isn't in hellfire.....

Also is the lake of fire d same as hell fire

OLAADEGBU:

A Christian is not better than an atheist but the Christian is better off.

Ptolomeus:

I understand then, that everything is symbolic.
It is also symbolic hell, and satan is symbolic ... the Judeo-Christian god is also symbolic ...

Ptolomeus:

I understand then, that everything is symbolic.
It is also symbolic hell, and satan is symbolic ... the Judeo-Christian god is also symbolic ...

alexleo: @Ijawkid,
there is nothing symbolic about hell. Hell is very real. Yes there is a realm called hell and that realm is in the spiritual thats why its a place for the spirit man just like heaven. If you say hell is symbolic it means heaven is also symbolic and God is symbolic and if that be the case why answer christians again. My brother dont be deceived by all these nonsense that the atheists has been posting here. Hell is real. Heaven is real. God is real and the creator of all human including the atheists and all things.

Ptolomeus:
Hello dear friend!
It is a great joy to greet you!

better off.
On what parameters?
Completely disagree with the comment.
An absurdity!

dorox: Though i am a christian, I personally do not believe hell is an everlasting place of fiery torture. One of the main attributes of the God i worship is justice, he is forever putting everything on a balanced scale, hence i cannot see how He will subject somebody to an eternity of torture for living an ungodly life of one lifetime. More so life is a gift that God gave to us without any precondition, it is eternal life that has a precondition (John3:16).
If you truly understand and believe in the existence of Hell fire, you will hate God for His injustice, detest your parents for bringing you to life and and refrain from having kids of your own.

OLAADEGBU:

Greetings to you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. How is the weather with you?

Jesus warned us that if we jump into death without Him, we would perish, and even harsher than the law of gravity is the law of an infinitely holy and just Creator. The Holy Scriptures states that sinners are God's enemy (Roman 5:10) and that it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God (Hebrews 10:31) The Evidence Bible.

dorox: Though i am a christian, I personally do not believe hell is an everlasting place of fiery torture. One of the main attributes of the God i worship is justice, he is forever putting everything on a balanced scale, hence i cannot see how He will subject somebody to an eternity of torture for living an ungodly life of one lifetime. More so life is a gift that God gave to us without any precondition, it is eternal life that has a precondition (John3:16).
If you truly understand and believe in the existence of Hell fire, you will hate God for His injustice, detest your parents for bringing you to life and and refrain from having kids of your own.

Jenwitemi: A small sketch:

The christian God is twisting the arm of one of his beloved creation, a man.

BIBLE GOD: Love me!!

MAN; Aaaaaaargh!!! (in excruciating pain)

BIBLE GOD: Love me, bi-tch!!! (twisting the poor man's arm even more)

MAN: Aaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!! You are hurting me!!!

BIBLE GOD: What? You think that hurts?! How about some FIRE?!




The christians in this thread have not even come close to addressing the original questions. I am still waiting.

PAGAN 9JA:



haha LOL. i was just imagining one of our 9Ja men being the poor man..

Jenwitemi: I am imagining olaadegbu and alexleo to be the poor man. No wonder they wanting others to suffer the kind of pains they suffer from the "love" of their arm twisting hell threatening ever loving biblical deity.

alexleo:
Yes I love God. Yes He is ever loving God. I ll rather die serving him than live and not serving.

cyrexx:
imagine a man that proposes love to a lady and says "i love you so much that i will lay down my life for you, pls believe me for what i'm saying. BUT if you dont believe, i have a secret torture chamber originally created for my enemy. i will lock you there forever with no hope of escaping at all, even if you eventually realise that i love and you change your mind about me, i will never forgive you for disbelieveing me. NEVER."
tell me is that love. which right thinking woman will willingly chose to marry such man.

alexleo:

unfortunately for you there is nothing like poverty around me. Lets not begin to boast with the things of this life because thats not the issue here. Yes I love God. Yes He is ever loving God. I ll rather die serving him than live and not serving.

cyrexx: is it just me or does this poster sound like a "sick" patient who has not taken his drug in a long time.

cyrexx:

since you love dying for God, how about tasting the second death you are scaring people with. that's a brave way to truly die for God. If you truly love God and you want to die for Him, ask him for a second death in the Lake of fire.

Mr Alexleo, if only you can just keep silent about this hell business of yours, and reason like a normal person. what you dont know is that you are turning more and more people into atheists with this portrayal of wicked vengeful God, who would want to serve such a wicked (non-existent) God. you are shooting yourself in the leg, broda.

buzugee: you are in hell right now. you didnt know ? let me give you the transition of paradise ( heaven ) to hell. revelation 6 vs 4, job 9 vs 24 and romans 11 vs 11. those 3 chapters tell you when the changing of the guard from heaven to hell happened. so heaven and hell are conditions on earth. However the lake of fire is real. the lake of fire will only be in babylon ( america ). the cage of every vile and hateful bird in the world who made the whole world drunk with their philosophys ( democrazy ) and way of life ( anywhere you go in the world is americanized now ) and ruled the earth with terror ( you can ask libya and iraq and afghanistan they will tell ya how terrified they are ). everything i have written are biblical verses cuz i dont want to inundate this post with verses so i will write them out. so this is how america will be taken down according to the book of revelation and jeremiah and isaiah. the beast has 7 heads and 7 crowns on its 7 heads and 10 horns. the beast is the ancient roman empire which became the modern american empire ( this is their power base today. in ancient times the power base was in rome ) which which is in control of the world and has been in control of the world since the european rennaisance. their biblical names are really edomites. the 7 heads represent the 7 hills of rome. the 7 crowns means that the world will be ruled by edomites ( romans ) ( white people ) the 10 horns represent the offshoot of the roman empire which is the european countries that make up the european union. so if you read the book of revelation it says in that time, the 10 horns will turn on the beast and destroy it and will shoot arrows ( modern day missiles ) into babylon that will make peoples eyes melt in their socket, tongues melt in their mouth and skin disintegrate from their body ( this is thermonuclear missile heat ) and will turn babylon into a lake of fire. what this means is that americas destruction will come from the european countries all turning on america and destroying it with thermonuclear missiles. america is a land sorrounded by a body of water. when the land mass is engulfed in thermonuclear fire, if you take an aerial view of it, it looks like a lake of fire in the midst of waters. this is where the term LAKE OF FIRE is coined. so basically if you dont reside in america, you dont have to be worried about the lake of fire. the lake of fire is americas destruction in thermonuclear fire.

ijawkid:


Hahahahahahahaha.....

Oboy the bible calls d lake of fire d second death!!!!!!.....

And also death and hades are thrown in that lake of fire....

My brother so u mean death and hades will be thrown in america

Satan too,false prophets,d wild beast,d kings of d earth,d political system of this world and all d liars will also be thrown into d lake of fire according to revelation....

Is that fire still literal or symbolic??
Or is it still in america where all this will happen??

The lÀke of fire can't be literal...

Death is abstract!!!

buzugee: when it says death is thrown into the lake of fire, it means when christ returns, spiritual death will be eradicated because you will all see the savior and will no longer need faith which is the barrier for a lot of people. a lot of people are in spiritual death because they have no faith. they cant believe what they cant see. that death will be thrown in the lake of fire. its a symbolic sentence

however there will be a physical lake of fire in babylon ( america )

ijawkid:

If spi®itual dÉath will be gone which I agree,physical death nkor??

What about hades

What about d false prophets including satan himself??

Will they all converge @ america to be burnt up??

If d death there in revelation is symbolic,what should make d place this death(symbolic) to be thrown into be literal(america)??