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Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by harryobas: 4:13pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
When I tell people that I develop web applications, specifically administrative web applications, they immediately assume that I develop web sites, and they cannot understand it when I tell them that they are not the same. Most people know the difference between a desktop application and a web site, so it is sometimes easier to understand if I say that a web application is equivalent to a desktop application with a web interface. As a web site does not have an equivalent desktop version it should therefore follow that there are differences.I sometimes refer to a web site as the Front Office or Showroom software and the web application as the Back Office software. Other people may use Front End and Back End. The front office is where visitors come in to browse and sometimes make a purchase. The back office is there to provide support services for the front office, such as processing customer orders and maintaining, issuing and replenishing inventory. While the front office is open to anyone, access to the back office is restricted to authorised personnel only. While the front office software is web only, the back office software can be either desktop or web, or a mixture of the two. It is possible for a web site (front end) to have a companion web application. A back office application is not necessarily the same as a Content Management System (CMS) as it does much more than simply maintain the information that is displayed on the web site. It is possible for a web application to exist without a companion web site. For example, an organisation may have a web application which allows employees to enter their timesheets and expenses, but this application does not have a web site which is open to casual visitors.The only similarity between a web site and a web application is that they both access HTML documents using the HTTP protocol over an internet or intranet connection. The fact that there is a difference between the two is not apparent to most of today's script kiddies who manage to cobble together what passes for a web site for an organisation, then, when asked to build a back office application to support what is used by the front office they continue with the "this is a website" mentality. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 11:45pm On Jun 10, 2012 |
to make it short, a website is a web application, but a web application is not necessarily a website. it's not hard to grasp, (i believe) every technical person knows that. Only the layman might confuse these |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by talk2hb1(m): 4:01pm On Jun 11, 2012 |
When you are speaking to normal person on the street, you have got to use the street wise language. You are a website designer to my Mummy who cant differentiate between the internet and a website. Even the elites on the street they cant differentiate between the email and website, they will tell you that email and website are one and the same since they can access their email via a browser or website so therefore you are a website designer. Technically you are a web developer. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by MisterMan(m): 10:58am On Jun 14, 2012 |
harryobas: ... As a web site does not have an equivalent desktop version it should therefore follow that there are differences.I sometimes refer to a web site as the Front Office or Showroom software and the web application as the Back Office software. Other people may use Front End and Back End. The front office is where visitors come in to browse and sometimes make a purchase. The back office is there to provide support services for the front office, such as processing customer orders and maintaining, issuing and replenishing inventory.I love that analogy. It should make things clearer to those that do not know okeyxyz: to make it short, a website is a web application, but a web application is not necessarily a website.No Sir. a website is not a web application. I prefer to st that a web application is an application that sits in website, or better still that uses Http protocol On a side note, I hate it when posts are hidden. By the way, why should they hide posts. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 12:44pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
okeyxyz: to make it short, a website is a web application, but a web application is not necessarily a website. it's not hard to grasp, (i believe) every technical person knows that. Only the layman might confuse theseYou got it reversed. A web application can be a website, and a website is NOT always a web application (your typical company website with static HTML pages are not web applications). |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by lordZOUGA(m): 1:12pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: You got it reversed. A web application can be a website, and a website is NOT always a web application (your typical company website with static HTML pages are not web applications).so a website with a dynamic UI is a web app |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 1:51pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
lordZOUGA:It sure is. What definitely makes a website a web application is no more that the provision of more than read-only features. It's not just providing output, but output based on input from the user (interactivity). |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:04pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: You got it reversed. A web application can be a website, and a website is NOT always a web application (your typical company website with static HTML pages are not web applications). really ![]() |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 2:07pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
okeyxyz:Are you laughing at your ignorance or what? Do you know what an application is? Can a static website provide output from a user's input? I will not even bother trying to further educate you. Or better yet, read what your mates already know about web applications up to 15 years ago (if in 2012 you still don't know what it is): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:14pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: Are you laughing at your ignorance or what? Do you know what an application is? Can a static website provide output from a user's input? I will not even bother trying to further educate you. so if it does not dynamically interact with user input, it's not an application ehh? how about when it outputs files stored on websites, which of course static html does perfectly? |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 2:21pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
okeyxyz:You call an HTTP GET of static files from a server an application? Jezuz, are you one of those half-baked "geniuses" they churn out from these mushroom computer schools? What processing does the server go through to send back the file? What logic determines the file it sends back? So a simple HTTP GET is processing or computation to you? |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:24pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: Or better yet, read what your mates already know about web applications up to 15 years ago (if in 2012 you still don't know what it is): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_application next time you want to use any references, be sure that it is well documented, validated & verified, which if you'd looked properly you'll see that the page you referred me to is not, otherwise you'd have noticed this heading This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (January 2010) I'm not saying the info contained in it is wrong, but in an intellectual scenario, nobody will bother with it's contents if it does not meet the intellectual/business documentation criteria. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 2:29pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
okeyxyz:Dude get the fvck out of here. I can put up one million pages that will tell you what a web application is: http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/1.4/tutorial/doc/WebApp.html http://webtrends.about.com/od/webapplications/a/web_application.htm Even Wikipedia has provided references for you to educate yourself, but you would rather be trying to be smart. You better learn what a web application really is before you start pushing yourself as an "expert" on developing one. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:32pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: Mehn, are you here to entertain me or what ![]() ![]() |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:36pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
next you'll be saying that google-chrome, firefox, & internet-explorer alone(without further javascripting etc) are not web apps because they don't interact with user |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 2:37pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
okeyxyz:Keep on bursting at being a dumb-azz. Even one of the links I tried to use to provide free education for you says: "The application can be as simple as a message board or a guest sign-in book on a website, or as complex as a word processor or a spreadsheet." So who said anything about complexity? Are you dyslexic? If you are, programming is not for you. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:42pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: "The application can be as simple as a message board or a guest sign-in book on a website, So, how does a simple html code that reads files on the web not qualify for an application? I could write a simple code to just output "Hello Guest" banner to visitors on my site as long as that is my purpose, then i can satisfactorily call it an app. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 2:50pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
afterall, when we all started programming course, we started with "Hello World" output that was it's sole purpose! simply print to screen, no user interaction. how is that not an app? PS: Even if we follow your strict definition of web app(ie: An app must interact with user input), a html code that displays documents on the web is still an app, because all the [b]pointing & clicking [/b]actions are user input. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 3:01pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
So how does all the twisting and turning tie in with nonsense you said earlier: "website is a web application"? I was about to get more technical but I'll leave you on your path into the bush. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by okeyxyz(m): 3:17pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
logica: So how does all the twisting and turning tie in with nonsense you said earlier: "website is a web application"? I was about to get more technical but I'll leave you on your path into the bush. simple, a website does tasks on the web, these task can be: display company info, advertising, get user data/registration, e-commerce, training/tutorials, movies etc. these are activities we used to do in the "brick & mortar" environments, now they are adapted(applied/application) to the web, thus web-app. ![]() Mehn.., i'm feeling sooo coool!!! |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by logica(m): 3:32pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
okeyxyz:So in your hazy mind, every single website has "user data/registration, e-commerce, training). Are those not dynamic components? Even more importantly, what is the architecture of a website that is nothing more than a collection of static HTML pages since you claim it is a web application? How many tiers does it have? be feeling cool in ignorance. Note that I only chose to respond to you because of the inquiring mind who created this thread; before you lead the dude into the bush you are heading to. |
Re: Website Vs Web Application. The Difference. by lordZOUGA(m): 3:50pm On Jun 14, 2012 |
@logica, please defend yourself right before instructing people. okeyxyz, is making more sense than you.. You are just cursing the guy which you shouldn't since the solution to you guys debate is constant and independent of the guy's stupidity. Posting links to pages that explain it is quite irrelevant if you can't relay what is written there in layman's terms... |
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