Damn, you see, never ever try to battle someone who can do this in her sleep, you'll always look bad, boy. Lol @ your sorry a$$.

Okay, you're both as wack as each other, so I'll call this a draw.

Thanks man.

Lol, this aural torture!. This is what I cannot understand about people who force accents, he should just stick to igbotic naija accent, there is nothing wrong with that, rep where you're from and be true. This song sucks, but for Tuface, it'll be totally trash worthy.

asha 80:

If you want to learn about igbo culture in general my advice is that not to be antagonistic in the way you go about with the way you jump into most igbo threads and criticizing them.No culture is entirely good or bad.If you respect yourself you will get more than information that you need.

Err, no thanks. There are too many tribal warriors on here, it is so damn annoying, as far as criticism is concerned, I stand by all that I have written so far. I know no culture is good or bad but an answer to a question is never, 'the other ethnic group does it too!'.

asha 80:

@Arocynic

I do not think you know Glo well.Since you said you left nigeria at the age of 11 i can forgive you.I have been to Glo offices and i can confidently tell you that up to 65% of Glo top executives are Yoruba.The owner of Glo is Mike Adenuga.

Again i ask are Yorubas becoming tribalistic against themselves?

I can appreciate what you said but I think that is beside the point, I think it was a lack of foresight on the part of Glo, be they Yoruba or not. I think the list could be far more inclusive, I stand by that.

chibic:

I told u, u r just a monkey in fake london picture.oloshi.let me see u make wrong move in this site again,then u will get it hot.asshole

Why are you getting hot under the collar, did I touch a nerve? Your empty threats do nothing to me mate, I am as cool as the other side of the pillow, 'na'mean?

asha 80:

@Afrocynic

If i may ask why are you so much interested in anything igbo?

Because I am a Lagosian and prior to moving to England at 11, I had a number of Igbo friends who taught me little things about the culture and my b/f is Igbo and I have told I have a penchant for Igbo guys. In short, outside of my own culture, it is the culture that interests me the most.

asha 80:

@lucabrasi

The advert and enligntened advert executives in GLO are the not mostly yoruba?

How, pray tell, do you know this?

afam4eva:

How many times will i warn you concerning this word that u're treating like this. Don't u have a dictionary, lookup up another word and stop this your ethnocentric fever.

I have told you numerous times, I call it as I see. As opposed stalking me in threads, why don't you get yourself an OD and read, perhaps you can step your vocabulary game up. Or does my use of the word sting you because it applies to you especially?

One fool's madness has turned into a rant again Igbo people? Wow.

@ Osisi, I think you need to exorcise the ghost of Ethnocentrism that resides within you.

**osisi:

The guy is an idiot.
Most likely the same individual that has asked the same question over and over again.
what control do people have over a culture instituted centuries ago by their forefathers that had the "best intentions in mind".
What else do we do but attempt to right the wrong
and several attempts have been made over the years and situations have improved.
In many cultures,those who served  the idols were respected and were uppper classmen but our ancestors chose to ostacise them because of their service to the idols,a fit that would have seemed noble back then in order to protect the others.
Now we all know how discriminating that is.
And laws had been promulgated as late as 1957 outlawing discrimination against " osus".
It was unheard of for a diala to marry a so called osu but today many people defy those odds and are intermarrying.

Caste system is practiced all over the world in various forms including in Japan and Korea.
It is not exclusive to Igboland.
Are the Yorubas asking foolish questions they already know answers to any better than those countries?
I would expect someone pointing fingers to come with clean hands.
someone with skeletons buried in their grandmother's backyard and body parts displayed in Nkwo Jankara market and  would be talking like he's better than anyone else.
These are the same people in some quarters that would slice up a childs face and cut off a pregnant woman's clitoris in this 21st century running their mouths like osu is the worst thing that happened on earth.


Osu caste system is denounced by most Igbos.
and thankfully it's nothing like what it was in times of old but these ITK's would start 5 topics on the same issue to achieve what purpose?
what exactly do they want to hear that can't be read off the links they've supplied?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste

for those who care to know that this is not an Igbo thing.
Discrimination occurs everywhere even here in America.

Even here on nairaland you hear the "real Yorubas" talk down on Kwara Yorubas or Ekiti people riducule Ijebu and Egba people.
why do you call some Yorubas are oke?
Is that a term of endearment?
make una let us hear something

You're really missing the point! But I am not surprised.

chibic:

@ afrocynic
u said i don't string words together very well?read what u wrote "you ought to leave me be"what's the meaning of that.are u sure u r in england?who strings words wrongly together here?besides,this is NIJAAAAA!

Lol, that my friend, is British colloquial English, not something you are familiar with I take it?

asha 80:

Mechionu means shut up.

Great, I spelt it wrong, lol but you get my drift.

onyinye2:

What's this word??

Is that not how one says 'shut up'. Lol perhap I am wrong but I thought it was.

I can read all the things written but Igbo like Yoruba is tonal, so I do not what tone to use. I can say 'ogini 'm ba' 'Mechornu' 'Onyeocha' 'Onyara' 'kedu' and a some random words. My best friend is Igbo but she is British so she does not speak her language that well.

It's nice to read what you all think on the matter but I really do think that if you were born there or have lived there for a substantial amount of years, you have all the right to be Lagosian I do not know what the big controversy is,

Although a majority of those born in Lagos do speak Yoruba, you have to understand that it depends where it is you were born. Maybe if you're from Eko or A.J. or the rougher parts of the state, (this is just me positing my own theory, I beg no chop my head off o) there is a bigger possibility but the Aje bota children are not as likely to to be conversant in Yoruba (or their own mother tongue for that matter), they might understand it but I am not sure they'll be able to hold a conversation in it.

tpia:

I hear there are Indian Brits who spend all their lives in England without learning a word of English.

But generally speaking, most people living in lagos who were born and raised there, speak Yoruba. They may also know their own languages but i personally have never met any such person from lagos who didnt speak Yoruba. Unless you're referring to those who only speak English, in which case some Yorubas also fall into that category since its not limited to any one tribe.

Lol, no they will understand English but not be able to speak it fluently. I worked with a guy like that once.

home girl:

@ afrocynic the way you are being disturbed about this osu issue i hope you are not one. cheers

And if I am?

ChinenyeN:

You're becoming even more irritating AfroCynic. Again, I simply asked for your current understanding of Osu. My being Igbo has nothing to do with your current understanding.
Is it too much trouble for you to tell me what your current understanding is? If you are do not want to convey to me your current understanding, then please say so, and then exit this thread. If you don't have anything to contribute, then please leave. That's as simple as I made it, and as simple as it needs to be.

Asha80, I don't think anyone here is claiming such (at least, AfroCynic doesn't seem to be claiming such).

Lol, you're being obtuse, let's agree I know zilch, zero, now enlighten me, If you cannot, then step.

You're Igbo, no? you already know how y'all treat the so called 'Osu'you do not need me to tell you. Like I said, educate me.

Lol, don't patronise me dude. Why don't you, as the Igbo, educate me on what position the so called 'Osu' play in Igbo communities. Tell me if intermarriage is allowed, why some people are marked as different in the first place, et etc.


Thank you so much.

Theblessed:

What a Silly question!!!!

My answer to your question is: why then did you chose to publish this your question in English language?? Abi your Yorubal language, wouldn't it do?  Besides, is English language your mother tongue?  Once you are able to answer these question then will you be able to realise why anyone could sing or publish their music in any language they fancy or prefer.  Music, they say is a universal language though you may not understand the wordings/language used but hey, the beats goes on!!!  It means, you rock it anyway whether you know/understand the wordings or not.  Grow up, young man!!!

Lol, I think you'll find that the dude who started this thread is Igbo.

ChinenyeN:

You know, I had no problem with you, up until now. I asked simple questions and you attack my character. Please, answer the questions I posed. Let's make this as civil as possible. I see that you have some kind of passion for this subject (at least, it seems that way to me), and that's fine, just don't turn this topic into a character debate.
You don't even know my stand in regards to Osu, so you cannot justly claim that it is disgusting. Now, kindly answer the questions formerly posed?

Your question is inane so it warrants no response, I suspect you harbour you own prejudices and that is why you posed such a question but you know, the truth will out. Oh what the heck, here's link for your perusal.

http://www.mukto-mona.com/Articles/Leo_Igwe/Osu_caste_system.htm

tpia:

I mean y'all are pouring libations together, to the same ancestors.

Lol, you are a funny cat.

tpia:

but African politicians share your philosophy, which got us where we are today.

Do expand on this observation,

I can speak;

Yoruba
Spanish (I am getting proficient in it soon, I am pretty happy about that)
Pidgin English
Some French.

tpia:

so you're not that much of a cynic then.

The name refers to my feelings about African politics, nothing more.

Because the went through things so life might be for us. I thank my ancestors as well as God in everything I do, if i happen to be consuming alcohol, I do my libation just because I think it is proper.

Now i inderstand why it is you have been stalking me! you are an apologist for the shameful way that things are in some Igbo communities. Google it, man, if yoiu are convinced that the practice is not abhorrent, I am glad you responded, now everyone can see what how empty you are. Your stand is disgusting, akin to someone who would whip a slave but claim he has nothing to do with slavery.

You remind me of some southern redneck in the 1940s.  So, you mean to tell me that there so called 'impurity' that forces them to be outcast only comes into effect once marriage occurs? This impurity manages to say locked in it's little compartment during casual sex? You are delusional and I know you know this nonsensical discrimination against your own kith and kin is baseless but of course, you won't admit that, it'll make you look like the a bigot.

ChinenyeN:

If you don't mind me asking. . . How is the practice sickening? What exactly did you read? Who gave you your information? Do you mind providing me with the URLs? What is abhorrent about the practice?
And the dude that said what he said knows what he's talking about. There's really no way you'd possibly understand, because if the Igbo themselves (in general) don't really [thoroughly] understand it.
Does sex mean that marriage is at hand? In order for the above quote to have any effect, it means that sex and marriage both must go hand in hand. Otherwise this question cannot effectively work.

ChinenyeN:

Same thing I said in the "Showcasing Igbo Culture" thread applies here, indefinitely. It seems as though you're on a self-appointed mission, and that's okay. But if you are, then please keep your objective confined to the proper thread. Do not bring Osu matters in here, or any place else. Thank you.

Most human victories are won by people on self appointed mission, thank you. Keep up your pretending. I am off to do more research on how to bring more attention this shameful matter.

ChinenyeN:

AfroCynic, you questions and thoughts, and whatever else you might like to say in regards to Osu are welcome, but confine them to the Osu thread, please. Do not turn this topic into what it wasn't meant to be. A while back, towards the beginning of this topic, I requested that the topic remain as is (it shouldn't be turned into Igbo vs. Other ethnicity or Igbo vs. Igbo, or random person vs. Igbo, or Igbo vs. Random person, or random person vs. random person. . . etc.). Apparently no one took me seriously. I'll repeat myself.

Leave this topic for showcasing Igbo culture as is, it should not degenerate into what it is not intended for. Thank you.

Because it makes you uncomfortable? Well it is a question regarding Igbo culture, though I am not sure it is an aspect of culture worth celebrating,