F**k da UK and everything it muthaf**king represents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  There's no place like Naija.  F**k Y'all!!!!

The world bank itself is a cartel of bankers and very strong and influential financiers. They - the world bank itself - are not interested or serious about this looted money, at the end of the day, it benefits them in one way or the other.

Power changes people, and inexperience does not mean incompetence. It is time we give others a try, rather than circulating the same ol people we've been hearing about since independence, and who have nothing or new ideas to offer.

presido1:

If the above is true then we need the curent list with names like OBJ,RIBADU,UBA and the rest.
We are doomed.

That one will come in the next 47yrs maybe, if we're not careful.

presido1:
which people are you calling? Are you Ghanaian if i may ask. Start and other will follow you.
We that have eyes know of this selective fight long before now.

almondjoy:

It has to be an issue of north and south when most of the people being harrased for this so called corruption come from the south by a northern EFCC run Mafia! If it was not meant to be a divisive tool, then EFCC should have pointed the radar equally on ALL LOOTERS!

To be honest with you I never looked at it from that perspective, because naturally I don't look at Nigeria like that, however you have a VERY GOOD POINT. EFCC should start with these guys first, and I wonder what's being done about some of the northern governors like that of Zamfara and Jigawa who looted mercilessly? I'm not really hearing about them except Alams, Ibori etc.

almondjoy:

Look, do not get me wrong--I really would like to see Nigeria as one--but not when some particular set of people use tools of intimidation and favoritism to deal unfairly to others while sparing themselves. All should be persecuted or none!

I totally agree!

almondjoy:

Like most of the looters do not come from the north? How many have made the news. The only reason we ever heard of Abacha's is because he was called to continue his regime six feet under. Abacha would have still been ruling Nigeria now. While I am not given to tribal sentiments-for I could not care what tribe belongs where in Nigeria--but I see a pattern that must not be condoned.

Personally I think there are equally as much looters from everywhere, whether you loot one million or one billion, you looted, the only difference is that these northern figures held power, hence they looted more and are obviously on the forefront. But if they are in the forefront, with facts about their looting available, why aren't they in the forefront of this economic and financial crimes crusade? Again agree with you here, this pattern must not be condoned.

almondjoy:

Give us some nothern looters or western looters so we can have a balanced equation. Till today--Tinubu is just laying down somewhere. This was a guy who Ribabu described his matter as a "special circumstance"---Na God go purnish am!

Equation can only be balanced when ALL LOOTERS (like you said) are brought to account.

Mamajama:

This article is old news, its been on for over 3 years, and that just reinforce my hatred for the toothless general.

Why is he so powerful, because he shared his loot with all the generals.

This article, and indeed similar articles, should never be treated as old news. Nigerians tend to forget things and accept the status quo very easily. As long as these people remain unaccountable, articles like this should continue to be a reminder of what has actually happened in Nigeria over 47years. This is no joke. One person, £6.25bn, pounds NOT naira oh, pounds, for f**K sake!

I was thinking, there are so many independent power contracting companies all over the world who have a proven track record in the energy sector, how dificult is it for the federal govt to bring these people in, let them do their feasibility studies, let them undertake the job wholly from beginning to end, no nigerian involvement, pay them, and contract them to oversee and train our people for at least 5-10 years before we take full control.

Afterall, Julius Berger (though making billions in Nigeria), are delivering at least, so maybe we need to do that, unfortunately as it may sound, but the nigerians have failed time and time and again.

almondjoy:

See all the northerners when full for there?  And Ribadu has the unmitigated gall to point his leprous fingers at Alams and co?  Useless man!

This list of looters came out a while back and the same "world bank" denied being part of it. Only God knows the real state of affairs.

True, Ribadu/EFCC is a big joke, but dude, the issue here is not north or south, the issue is the systematic abuse and looting of nigeria's resources.  When you dig deep down, you will see that looting has happened on a bastardized scale by individuals from every corner of the country.  Let the world bank and international banking cartel expose these people - ALL OF THEM, and return the money to the peoples of nigeria in an accountable and transparent manner, and then the nigerian govt should bring them to justice.  But what are the chances of that happening?

Add the current list of looters and emerging looters, and you begin 2 wonder how come there's still peace in nigeria. God forbid war or anything like that, but if you look at failed states like DR Congo, liberia, Sierra leone, countries that were rich in natural resources, the looting made these economies and countries implode hence resulting in war.

Even sadder is the fact that these bandits are still the major sponsors of the current political scene in Nigeria. Maybe we should learn from the Ghana/Rawlings exercise. Blood must be shed in order to restore order (not the blood of innocent nigerians, but these bandits should be treated like armed robbers and taken to the firing squad (public one 4 that fact), so it will serve as a lesson.

OduduwaSon:

My God, don't they get electrocuted? Aren't they scared? Lagos & Kano States were supposedly implementing independent power supply projects with foreign companies, I wonder what happened or is happening to those projects, or is it just another scam?

A Canadian company Wardrop Manitoba was doing a joint independent power project with the Kano State Govt., however the company was frustrated by the state's govt officials and stakeholders who were more interested in the finances involved than the actual nitty gritty of the project.

http://www.wardrop.com/fileadmin/sites/wardrop/docs/nov09_00.pdf

osereka:

NEPA/ POWERHOLDING

NNA I WEAK O

NEPA used to be NEVER EXPECT POWER ALWAYS, however we now have something even better, PHCN.

PROBLEM HAS CHANGED NAME
or
PLEASE HOLD CANDLE NOW

dayokanu:

@ Seun,
OBJ who signed the contracts should be held and he would point out the people with whom he shared the booty.

The people who are going to hold him also have dirt on their hands so how can they hold him?

dayokanu:

Poor roads!! Seun, maybe we should privatize roads too

My friend where are you based? Roads in naija have been privatised. I know of roads in naija that have been privatised and toll gate money is no longer for government (doesn't make a difference anyway, coz the toll gate money didn;t improve the lives of nigerians, infact the roads are death traps.)

dayokanu:

In the last 8 years Nigeria has achieved so much because according to OBJ we are better than Congo What reasoning.!!!

Well I won't be surprised with anything OBJ comes out with. What do you expect when you give someone who has just been suffering from mental problem in prison the presidency? He has to use Congo as a benchmark becoz we can't even stand next to Ghana and most african states for that fact. The same people we used to cry Ghana must go, now enjoy pass us. Now its Naijas must go everywhere, no-one wants to do business with us, kai wahala

dayokanu:

And according to OBJ the solution to poverty in Nigeria is for the rich to Marry more wives. Imagine that sound economic model to bring us out of poverty.

I told you, some one who has known nothing all his life but military barracks, drinking, women, just finished serving years in prison (lucky 4 him abacha's dr. death did not get 2 him), and then you come and give him presidency, honestly what do you expect? A Bill Clinton? May 29 1999, another date that will stand as another catastrophic moment in the history of nigeria.

MoOdYLaDy:

@Sweet_aura

Ferlie why are you feeding us liessssssssssss

Man you people never cease 2 make me laugh on nairaland. She could be telling the truth, which if she is, then she should count herself blessed with long life coz I've never met a plane crash survivor, especially naija ones

Still those people in california no get problem jare, they get disaster once a year (at least that means once a year they remember God), africans and those wey dey naija, just dey suffer shamelessly day in day out. If natural disaster doesn't hit them, they still face the police who rob them everyday, then after the police have robbed them, the armed robbers will now come rob them again, if you're lucky to be able to afford hospital then you might not be so lucky with the doctors because if the armed robbers and police did not kill you, then the doctor will take a shot at it. If you're lucky to escape the hospital alive (without them leaving any knives or forks in your stomach or injecting you to paralysis), then pray you get from the hospital back to your house without getting caught up in a religious riot along the way. If you're taking a taxi or public transport to and from the hospital, count yourself lucky if you don't find yourself being kidnapped by the taxi driver to do juju with your head and balls, but if you happen to survive all that, then pray that nepa (I believe they're PHCN now) does not finish you off by providing mosquitos with the right conditions to suck you to death - darkness. And after all this, where do you go to report anything? Where do you go for compensation? Which government official you want go cry to? infact if you come out and don't have money, you'll now be regarded as crazy. And you guys are all getting sentimental with California? Fair enough, nobody likes disasters but most people here have been abroad too long and have no clue wata gwan in L'Afrique.

Peace!

choco4life:

Watched the fire on CNN and felt so sorry forthose rndered homeless

Oh please don't feel sorry for them OH! Just say thank God loss of life was minimal, but don't feel sorry for them. They are financially okay, plus insurance dey, and because most of the residents there are white or rich, government go dey, so don't feel sorry for them, its just a renovation they get each year whether they like it or not.

It is rumoured that Chief Bola Ige was assasinated and eliminated to pave way for the $2.1bn looting deal of the power sector. Might sound preposterous to some, but anything is possible in naija. OBJ's record of unresolved political assasinations during his tenure only adds concrete to the theory that the country was dictatorially hijacked, raped and abused for 8 consecutive years with nothing to show for it.

Is there anything we can look back at in the last 8 years as a mark of progress and achievement? Someone help here, coz I can't seem to think of anything.

When I think what the rest of the world has achieved in those 8 years, and look at the so called top economies we are supposed to emulate, it leaves me in a position that I don't know whether to cry or laugh.

Kobojunkie:

Do you know what the funniest part of this all??  In the same time it will take to rebuild and move all these people back to their homes and old lives, I am not sure much would have changed in Lagos alone, talk less of the whole of Nigeria

In a way, I can't help but thank God that this did not happen in NIgeria. IMagine what would have been the fate of the people if that had been the case?? Do we even have firefighters that would do quarter of what these dudes are doing out there in Californi

That is why God doesn't hit us with hefty natural disasters, we are already in a disatrous state.

In January, Joseph Makoju, a presidential adviser on electricity, estimated [that] generation capacity in Nigeria was only enough to light just one 30-watt light bulb for each of Nigeria’s 140 million people.

Read full article:
http://platform.blogs.com/passionofthepresent/2007/03/power_crisis_cr.html

babasin:

Nigerians do not need 'Abuja tower' to have beautiful surroundings; let them clean-up those TELEPHONE wires, those over flowing drainages.

I am not against beautiful surrouding but against so fanciful building which add no REAL value to life of Nigerians.

fanciful building will come later; when we have booming middle income people

I don't understand you. The abuja towers is being initiated by a private foreign company investing in naija, so why shouldn't it go ahead? And it seems like you don't really know abuja, because it was planned in such a way that most telephone wires, electrics are mostly built underground. What you see is just street lights and traffic lights, no nitel telephone poles or nepa power lines, most are all underground. There is proper drainage systems and good roads, well planned city. The beautiful surroundings, is not being used by the majority of the masses, the parks etc. Becaue there's poverty doesn't mean there shouldn't be continued development, because you can't just stop and say I'm going to tackle all the other problems and then deal with infrastructure, it doesn't make sense. Beautiful cities, buildings and surroundings attract foreign investment, tourism, exposure, which in turn promotes growth, and no matter what you may think (all you people abroad who have not been to naija for years), things are changing and moving very fast, this can only be good for nigeria, and if abuja can instigate that growth and change and rapid development, then why not?

@babasin

You are missing the point dude, the thread acknowledges the shortcomings, but from my understanding, the thread is celebrating the physical beauty of abuja as a nigerian city and a symbol of hope for all those people who work in those buildings. We all know of the corruption, whatever whatever, nairaland alone can testify to that, but still, that doesn't mean we can't have beautiful surroundings for God sake. Why are we so pessimistic and quick to dismiss everything as if nothing good can come out of naija.

Add to the list

1. Sellouts
2. Coconuts (black african nigerians thinking they are caucasian! So annoying!

Oh boy, IBB don finish naija

babasin:

Go and check where all the people in your picture lives; SLUMS in Kubwa, yanyan, lugbe.

The toilets in those building are a disaster.

Nigeria do not need fancy government building.

@babasin
out of all the pictures the dude posted, only one or two showed people in the pictures, the rest were all buildings, and indeed beautiful they are, but you were so quick to dismiss the whole thing without any concrete reasoning. I need to go to the other thread to find some answers, why are nigerians so abusive and insultative?

I did post a warning somewhere on this thread alerting members about that davidylan guy. he is just a nuisance so its best you just ignore him. The guy is obviously frustrated.

davidylan:

I've heard this line a hundred times. You fool no one Bandits of mohammed.

You're sick man. U need help big time!

@ kobojunkie

Who mentioned anything about BUSH Are you ok?

@ posters

davidylan:

Ahmedinejad - Icon or Idiot?

And on this note people, I'd like to draw ur attention to a Mr. Davidylan.  He is a mad disillusioned individual who suffers from solitary confinement and loneliness and as a result can only vent his anger on forums like this.  Be Warned!  He is on almost every thread and every post, and never has anything to say that makes sense.  So while we proceed with this thread, I urge fellow members to bear with this nuisance if you cannot ignore it, as it will continue to pop up now and again.

Thank you.  We may now continue with the thread.    

davidylan:

Didnt you all say you were a religion of "peace"?

I'm a christian FOOL!

@ kobojunkie

U're missing the point. A majority of the British people were not happy with Mandela's statue standing in parliament square next to their national heroes like Churchill, and some africans were debating the symbolism of the whole saga. It is not about idolising or worshipping anybody, and the issue of illuminati is to spice up the thread and get people talking, maybe coz u're not based in the UK, so you won't get a first hand feel of how unveiling that statue meant to some people. And I just want an african perspective on it.

@ davydylan

Go hang urself man! Lunatic!

The thread poses a question. I want ur contribution/input by answering the thread topic, either by refuting or accepting the question in the statement. African Statesmen - Icons or Pawns? What is ur view?

jagwar:

@ amenhotep
don't even waste your time on this guy, his brain is like one-way-traffic.

I'm currently considering ignoring the lunatic for some blasphemist remarks.

I think u're right. The guy is crazy!

Kobojunkie:

SERIOUSLY LAUGHING SO HARD NOW!!! AMAZING THE SORT OF THINGS PEOPLE COME UP WITH IN HERE !!! Do you have a brother in here

UNBEWEABLE!!!

If you can't come up with a thread, or provide input to a thread, good or bad, positive or negative, then do not tell us wat you think of what others come up with it. Lets focus on the thread please.

davidylan:

no wahala, that is the only way muslims think. My way or war! And they claim to be a people of "peace".

You're not only mad, you're stupid too!!