More reasons to hate RELIGION.

not a 'must' bro.

Mr anony:
The person becomes transformed, filled with the Holy Spirit with new desires and conformed to God's righteous nature.

bros. you funny,just take a good look around.all christians claim to have this Holy-Spirit yet there is a greate confussion in the christiandom.

Nonybb: keep on thinking u are being funny until u fall under the wrath of the Almighty. But may God deliver u finally. I dont knw wat normally gave u ppl morals to attack men of God like politicians. Be careful

whos wrath and on who? they?(MOG)only them i see under wrath
what are the differences? between our nigerian politicians/pastors

@all4naija
that which is spiritual is spiritual that which is physical is physical,so your unbelief cannot and wouldnt annull the existence of the spiritual.

@topic.
not only the future it also reveals the present.(but not all dreams)personal experience? yes just too many to type.

SOLD.

iconic_s: The bible talks about those "ever learning but never comming to the knowledge of the truth", but this is not as sad as another portion that says some "have their understanding darkened". OP the first person to pay tithes was Abraham before the law, if you study your bible well you ll see that his children paid tithes while still in his loins before the law. Jacob also made a vow to pay his tithes. Abraham paid tithes to melchizedec (Heb 7:1-10) who is a type of Christ. The covenant God had with Abraham is an everlasting covenant which all Christians enjoy outside the law. So you want the blessings of abraham but you want to be blind to the principles he, isaac and jacob lived by? Its one thing to be ignorant, but PLEASE don't spread it!!! You don't want to pay tithes fine, don't drag others with you.

please, where in the bible Isaac TITHE? JACOB's tithe,what was his motive? Abraham tithe,how many times was it recorded? did Abraham tithe from spoils OF WAR or gains(profit) BUSINESS/JOB ?WAS HE A WARRIOR? abraham's blessings(GOD BLESSINGS)- even non christians enjoys that,take a good look at some arab(MUSLIM) nations where poverty doesnt exist do they tithe? were early christian missionaries that broutght the knowledge of christianity to africa wrong abt the concept GOD? were u born a christian? certainly not then ask your-self if somthing good has ever happened to you before you got born-again.how much thithe did you pay for Christ to die and resurect for you? IF YOU REALLY LOVE GOD,IS TENTH OF YOUR INCOME ENOUGH TO DEDICATE TO HIM? IS GIVING ONLY LIMITED TO THE SO CALLED MOG? Take a good look of our nation(nigeria) if giving is really presented by the mog according to the word of God,you be the the judge.

Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

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Joh 10:10  The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:

Rev 6:8  And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Rev 6:9  And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10  And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Rev 6:11  And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.


Joh 3:14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15  That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Mat 11:15  He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Gaggi:

Healing, believing bla bla. Jesus healed people and we didn't hear that the diseases came back. I don't believe that all these modern day pastors have any powers at all.

How many of them are ready to fast and go into the wilderness? Materialism and godliness don't go together.

We may safely conclude that the days of miracles are gone. It ended with Jesus, Peter and Paul's era.

DAYS OF MIRACLES ARE NOT OVER.IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT MY WIFE FELT THIS PAIN IN HER SPINAL-CORD DOWN TO HER WAIST THAT SHE COULD NT MOVE NOR STAND,FIRSTLY I WAS SCARED COS MANY YEARS TOGETHER HAVE NEVER SEEN HER IN SUCH STATE NOT EVEN HAVING OUR FIRST CHILD.I WAS THINKING ABOUT CALLING AN AMBULANCE WHEN I HEAR-ED A VOICE INSIDE ME SAYING LAY YOUR HAND ON HER AND PRAY WHICH I DID, MY WIFE THAT WAS CRYING IN AGONY STOOD UP STARTED LAUGHING, OVERWHELMED AND STARTED PRAISING GOD.SHE LATER EXPLAINED ALL THAT HAPPENED DURING THE PRAYER,SHE FELT AS IF BEEN ELECTRIFIED-  THE POWER OF GOD MOVED AND SHE WAS HEALED THAT NIGHT,ALL THESE HAPPENED IN SOME COUPLE OF HOURS.


HOW ABOUT THE ONE THAT LED ME TO THE LORD?
MY WIFE WAS MEDICALLY CONFIRMED BARREN AFTER SEVERAL TESTS (IN WESTERN WORLD.E.U TO BE PRECISE) SAID SHE CANNOT CARRY A CHILD- we are already expecting our second child IN 4YRS. EVEN A MEDICAL DOCTOR CONFIRMED IT A MIRACLE- MY BROS/SIST. OUR GOD IS THISAME TODAY AND FOREVER.BELIEVE IN GOD NOT MAN(OF GOD)

After been blessed by hearing the sermon of last(church) service,pastor went ahead and announced ''THE GENERAL OVERSEER`S(PRESIDENT) OF THE CHURCH IS APPROACHING SO WE SHOULD BE PREPARING TO GIVE ,DOING THIS A PIECE OF PAPER WOULD BE GIVEN SO MAKE YOUR PLEDGE,NORMALLY WE GIVE(, AMOUNT).

Thank God I was not saved by theses so called 'MOG' so I Take the truth do away with the man made.

God is not a money doubler neither does He print  currencies as some men of God assume or paint Him to be,it is by His GRACE OF NO WORKS ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST-EPH 2:9 your tithe doesn't move God not even your faith- what faith does is reaches for what He provided by Grace.

Un matured(premature) Christians- all they want to hear is, do  this and that to get all. just like a politician campaining before his supporters telling all they want to hear to get their votes.
I don't blame them(MOG) much cos the only way to get their stiffed-necked congregations to give and be sure of their personal supply is to quote the scripture out of context,analyse,emphasised it then put fear into their mind by quoting Malachi 3.pronouncing the curses forgeting,GAL 3 :10,13.DEPRIVING THEM OF THE GRACE.

I was once a tither until I found and know the truth,there are many scriptures references  about giving and receiving taught by Jesus and the Apostles in the new testament yet there is none that states pay your tithe. HEB 7? read in context its about change in the priest-hood,end of the of the law.

Mat 7:7  Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find;  I seek-ed and find in the scriptures where Christ made mention of tithe all I found is  He(Christ) rebuked the legalistic Jews-Mat 23:23  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
[b]Luk 11:42  But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Luk 18:12  I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. Which reminds me of 1Co 13:3  And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. [/b]So all I do is[b]( 2Co 9:7)  GIVE according as I purposeth in MY heart,  not grudgingly,  necessity,( or to escape the wrath or curse in mal 3 ) for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Jenwitemi:

My dear fellow human being, the CHURCH itself is an icon of men's doctrines/tradition. So to think that you can find a church devoid of men's doctrines or traditions is a complete folly, for both of them are intrinsically tied together.

thanks for your opinion.

frosbel:


^^

It depends on what you mean by church

Frosbel,

you are quite right. of-course you know am not talking about the spiritual body of Christ as a church cos is perfect. l mean the physical-gathering where worshiping takes place.

Bride of Christ? where?
                                       thanks 4 ur views

you are right,but to where? take a good look in and out of your Church are all activities biblical? be sincere

I just keep wondering if there is any church of Christ today, without the doctrines/tradition of men,especially in our African/Nigeria churches home and abroad.
Take my church for example,women's week. all the women asked to buy same type of cloth.LIKE-ORIGIN- our Nigeria social clubs. what hapens to some which cannot afford? but none is oblige you might say,but just think if you were on able skip church service on D day?
2:Giving prizes to the best giver(a group separated from the congregation to run the finance of the church,giving them recognition over those who cannot give much in so doing they are obliged(pressurised) as a member to give.
3: freely you have received freely you shall give,you pay your tithe and offerings yet you still have to buy your sundays/special service or conference DVD.YOU SAY but it costs money to produce them, same way is  being ordered on-line it can be equally be downloaded free. Sometimes I hear-WITH A GIFT OFFERING-WE SEND YOU THESE MATERIALS.
4: Pastor,siting on the altar while his congregations come-forth to present him their BIRTH-DAY GIFTS. the list goes on and on.

Is your church free from men's doctrines/traditions?  Please, be sincere.

@Joagbaje

Is that what I said? I only gave an instance on pastoral guidance . but for migrating from Facebook etc. It's a common sense thing. If you work with cocacola you should not wear pepsi face cap . We built other social websites by our visit and money. If your church has something that will be global , migrating with your loved ones to build it is a common sense.

meaning as a member of CEC I should not be in other site, than that  of CEC?
So sad, the Body of Christ is now being compare to Pepsi and Coca-cola botling company. listen,surely nothing wrong for a pastor to urge his/her members to join the church site but when it becomes an instruction making it looks as if  he that fails to yield to it, disobeyed God then something is wrong I suppose.

@Joagbaje[There are christians who put rubbish on their face book. Things that don't edify. A pastor can guide them aright to use Facebook to preach the gospel rather. Will you call that idolising? It's leadership.quote][quote][/quote]

It seems you are CEC member which hapens to be my church . are you saying pastor Chris asked all members to quit facebook for kookos because of the above reason? naming it instructions?

@Joagbaje-topic- WHEN DOES A MAN OF GOD BECOME AN IDOL? in other word being worship as god. when his members starts treating him as one. is good to respect not worship as some who even fear their pastor more than God. e.g the head of my church passed an instruction asking all members to quit a particular social site for another, so I should follow becos MY PASTOR SAID SO? OR Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.SAID SO?
IS ALL ABT KNOWING THE TRUTH ABT THE WORD OF GOD
Eph 4:14  That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive

when the members starts treating him as an idol. especially the xtians who seeks nor know not the truth.

@ Ajike,
one thing is to be born-again and another experience is to receive the Holy-Spirit,ACT 8:14-18. this is the motor that keeps the machine going without it is  a car without engine so if you haven't receive it try and do so if you've had try to yield  to it cos He is always communicating,try to listen.for He said I will never leave you nor forsake you  (Deu 31.6)-Rom 6:19   for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. this is almost impossible without the Holy-Ghost,Remember ( Act 1:8 ) But ye shall receive POWER, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: this power is the ability to make change.He has done it in time of old even for me and He liveth to do it for you.

@Akaraoku$
Amen,a big thanks. my God shall not stop pulling them back for the battle is His.

@DARA1234.
A BIG AMEN.THIS IS FOR ME, THANKS.

@poster
actually my experience so far has been full of testimonies and uncountable temptations,even as am writting now am strugling with one. my situation always remind me of adam and eve in the garden where satan tempted them with the fruit,my point is there was nothing available to be used other than what was reachable by satan,he satan couldnt have use money or other material things to entice them.i have a great family,a wonderful son which is abt 20months and a wonderful wife whom doesn't deserve to be hurt but to be treated good like a lady cos she deserve the best.now amidst my been born-again which is abt a year now above all temptation is that fornication/adultery or i dont know the right word to use,now all my ex-s keeps coming at me but thanks be to Our Lord Jesus Christ whom had empowered me to be able to stand all the temptation,now they keeps giving me an offer which is not that easy to turn down about few weeks ago i was to travel to holland to meet one of them,i almost fall for it,something in me keeps telling me that this is not me that am a new creation that old things have passed way while the other was telling,that it was a break-through to the money for my business which i have been praying for, so finally i prayed to God for help a day before the day i was to travel the desire  left,so i tried to call to inform her abt the situations of things she refused to pick my call till date,it was an attack which i couldn't fight by my might but by the spirit,the bible says not by might but by the Spirit.as am writting i quit fb for this reason.if it is not satan,i see no reason why a woman should insist on dating a married man even when she is aware of his marital status.after been freed from this one just last week u cannot believe it,another is here again. THANK GOD FOR HIS LOVE AND COVENANT-THOUGH THEY SHALL GATHER THEY SHALL ALSO SCATER.

true talk.

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