jay bee:

Dude, it's OK to doubt but i certainly do know my onions and can back it up. I studied MSc Information Engineering @ city university London and highest weighted module is Control Engineering. The course should have been called MSc Electrical/Electronics Engineering as it was pratically same/similar modules to the ones i took in ma first degree.
Anyways, Information Engineering def ain't Information Systems

Looks like you're agreeing with me. . Of couse I did my Electrical/Electronics enginering degree at Imperial College and you cannot say I don't have a clue here.
I graduated 5years ago and have worked as a Telecoms Engineer, Information Analyst and at the moment I work as a Control Systems Engineer and have had my taste of Power Engineering, so trust me if you want me to break it down, I definitely would because I'm with a company where you get everything you want when it comes to being practical. But I'll maintain that statement that you cannot categorise Information Systems and Control Systems Engineering in the same basket though they're all under the same Electrical/Electronics Engineering umbrella.

jay bee:

Ain't working as an Information Engineer. Only studied it for MSc. Basically it's the development, application, and maintenance of parameters (generation, distribution, analysis) needed in engineering systems to make it function as designed.
Involves loads of control engineering though.

As an Information Assurance Analyst i basically manage information related risks (throughout the lifecycle of the information). Heavy quantitative and qualitative analysis though, but just do 'em line management stuffz dis dayz.

How come you're mingling Information Systems with Control Systems Engineerin? These are two totally different fields (and I'm saying this from a personal perspective and opinion mingled with experience obviously). I seriously doubt the credibility of that statement though not your personality.

On the whole though, I think Power Engineering is generally hot and would always be hot regardless because there'll always be a need for Power Engineers and if you're in the UK, it'll be good to have the 17th Edition Power Regulation and take the exam though that is if you’re working as an Electrical Engineer. There’re regulations to follow in constructing new buildings and there are so many substations that have to be maintained regularly but in a country like Nigeria where there’s no light, how could we utilise these engineers with vision?

The corruption in the Nigerian society had not made this profession thrive generally but Electrical Engineers on the whole are hot cakes and that’s the truth.

AjanleKoko:

@B.O.S.S,
Personally, I think EE grads at Bsc level should be well grounded enough to work anywhere. Irrespective of your final year electives and project work. My postgrad work was in industrial control systems, even though 100% of my post-school work experience is in the IT and telecom industry. My undergrad project work was strictly electronics, while my PG dissertation was in the area of industrial automation (sequence-controlled mechanisation).

Unfortunately the entire manufacturing sector is killed due to a host of factors, from the lack of power to the greedy government importers. That's why most grads these days are pushing more towards IT and Telecoms. Although there are a few major projects in oil and gas, particularly gas (OKLNG et al), but these may be stalled by the global financial crisis.

Nowdays there are lots of options, but what I would recommend to the average EE school grad would be to get good knowledge about what they're studying. We have too many 'brilliant' lecturers and students who are really not clued up as per knowledge and skills, but are geared only towards passing exams. Guys should get out to Oshodi or somewhere, get a few components and couple them together, see what happens. That was what we did back then, as the labs were lousy and inadequate, and the lecturers were content to force-feed us with the same old crap they were force-fed a decade or two earlier. Could be the British system we follow, as I noticed the Americans seem to have a more hands-on approach. Mind you I'm not the best expert on this but I enjoyed Vincent Del Toro as an all-round EE textbook as opposed to Theraja.

Of course you're right about Nigeria politics stalling development in Nigeria and hence impeding people's profession i.e. Power ENgineering and the other aspects of Electrical Engineering however I beg to differ regarding your opinion as to people doing well and being able to apply the rules despite finishing with one discipline i.e. Power Engineering and then doing well in IT/Telecoms. I must tell you these disciplines are very vast and without disrespecting you at all, I don't know how you were taught in Nigeria but think about it this way, I focussed on Silicon Technology/Digital Signal Processing/Communications Enginering in my final year and I think that's vast enough and I doubt an Electrical Engineer with Power Engineering principles would be able to hack it in that same field likewise my colleagues that studied Optoelectronics/Electonics Engineering and the other groups that did Software Engineering/control Systems Engineering and Embedded Systems Engineering had their own knack as well as variety. So without the accurate training and love for the subject,it'll be very hard to be an all-rounder.

I could also use myself as an example, I worked as a Telecoms Engineer for three years and decided to change my field and trained as a Power Engineer and found it very uninteresting as well as a very hard nut to crack because that just didn't do it for me right from university and I struggled a bit in that field as opposed to Telecommunications/Software and IT.

More so, I beg to differ regarding the British system not being as tough as the Americans and in fact I could give you theories and theories as well as practicalities of British applicable engineers which would thrive over Americans any day or any time and in fact the British education system being three years shows you how good you have to be to be able to squeeze as much as possible in your head in the three years of your stusy. Mind you, I used to have 9hours of practical timetabled session in my first year at University, oh and by the way, did I forget to say the university you attend matters as well?

Don't use text books when comparing UK and USA when it comes to standars,in engineering especially. 

AjanleKoko:

@all,
Let me even ask the house, what was the motivating factor that made EE your choice? For me, it was pure accident. I was some sort of idealist in secondary school, didn't see myself as an engineer, and was going to study physics or computer science in university. My dad played a key role in convincing me that EE was a much better choice, and more attractive in the labour market. So on the spur of that convincing I picked up basic electronics at SSCE level and managed to squeeze an A3 out of WAEC, despite the short time I had to prepare (2 terms).
Years later I read about the transistor and Shockley's exploits (his contemporaries at the time claimed he could see electrons), and that sparked a lifelong romance with the wired world. A romance that I would say is just beginning. I always wanted to work in high tech, and I got my wish without having to emigrate. And because of where I work (new product development), I actually have a very good overview of the technology, far more than my colleagues who are in the core telecoms where I started from.
Any interesting stories?

Overall, my interest in engineering was not really of interest but of me "question-marking" everything and being inquisitive in a bid to quench the thirst of my knowledge and as soon as I got into it, I thought this isn't the course for me but what makes the hair on my neck stand up is the fact that I see something from nothing for example writing a programme and turning it into something from scratch just gives me the goose bubbles.

There is nothing diffifult in starting up with C programming (though I'm more of a C++ fanatic) however, I'll advise you geta good book and read up on the introduction because if anyone should start typing here now in a bid to answer your question, it'll just be a waste of time as ou'll have trouble understanding however regarding what you asked. . my imputs are -

how to interprete C arithemetic operation in C:- To do this, you need to define your math library at the start of your program and that's before getting into the programme.Arithmetic operators are just your usual "-, +, / and x" but when you define your math library, it'll include all other mathematical symbols in them.

how to display messages and values on screen :- How do you mean display things? I think you just have to include "b and /b" within your comments and also make sure all actions are heavily commenter but hidded from the user however if another programmer wants to update your code, they'll be able to modify it easily by virtue of your comments.

how to compile a file and all those beggining things :- This actually depends on the debugger/compiler you use and there are tens of them out there. You could only compile a program after one has been written and has no mistakes on it.

Hope this helps.

teejay2010:

B.O.S.S I indeed enjoy your post you really inspire me keep it up! I am a 4level student of the dept. of ELECT/ELECT Engineering Obafemi Awolowo University ILe-ife.

I intended majoring in Power and machine but indeed I want to avoid a lecturer in my final project so Iam choosing telecom for now so after obtaining my result i will switch over.

That's very good to know you're almost rounding up your course. But why do you want to switch to It/Telecoms for your final year project instead of Power Engineering? The reason being is because you have chosen to study Power Engineering as a field so your lecturer/project supervisor would expect you to choose a project in that field (I hope that's how it works in Nigeria because that's the way it was while I was at Imperial/Leeds) and hence you'll be able to deliver in that field.

teejay2010:

please advice me more on this. Moreso i' m also interested in that your project "nonlinear microwave circuit stimulation" any e-material on the project? please let know.

My project was done in 2004 but I still have the write-up. I think there should be more resources available for research now so you shouldn't have much problems however you'll need to be conversant with some software techniques especially C++ programming and Matlab beacuse that's included with the project and would get you good marks.

teejay2010:

And, presently I searching for my six month industrial attachment posting and im considering doing courses in IT as alternative to power and machine please more advice.

I'm not sure about the Nigerian market when it comes to other sectors of Electrical Engineering because most people I speak to tend to only mention IT/Telecoms despite the fact that Nigeria needs Power Engineers, Control System Engineers and even Electronic Engineers because we should be at that stage of growth where we have to start producing things and maintaining a lot of industries as well as generate adequate electricity (in the case of Power Engineers).

Overall though, I'll say this and it's from my experience as an engineer in this field, believe me that your degree is a lot more worthy than people could ever say. Electrical Engineers (as well as other graduates) are needed everywhere in the world as long as you could prove your worth and gain that usefulexperience under your wings, you'll be priceless.

Just never give up.

redsun:

David and solomon are fictitious characters,no archaeological proofs of their existence so far,unlike the pharoahs with living proofs.

I suppose with utmost regard to the Christians and those who believe, you're on your own with that comment o. 

redsun:

Obasanjo is a mad man,he know no difference between reality and illusion,like he rightly said himself,nothing embarrasses him and there is a saying in place that a mad person knows no shame.

Well, you're still on your own o because I'm not ready to engage myself in war of words with the Obj armies.

redsun:

Obama,probably prayed to the wall for political propaganda,just to impress the conservative jews whose tradition it is to pray to the wall,zionist.Obama is no fool,he knows what time it is.

However with this statement, I wholeheartedly support you.

sunnym:

Honestly i am dumb when i was reading all the post cos i have just graduated and doing my youth service without any experience based on IT and i read power and machine, my question is how can i start when i dont have anybody in Lagos or PH where one can see opportunity to acquire experience or is there any company that will employ without years of experience?

Listen mate, I'll lend you my 2cents and I hope it'll be worth it. When I started in the UK having almost finished secondary school in Nigeria, and after I went through my A-Levels and University, I had zilch experience basically, I was stuck in the same position as you.

I started with all sorts of work but with my eyes focussed on the job i.e. geting something related to my degree and within 6months, I got a into a Telecoms company but was in a customer service role. I showed them what I was capable of and I always shuttle within the IT department just to see how they get by and see what they do. In fac, I dedicated some of my time doing the MSCE exams before the company eventually realised what I was capable of and I was eventually a Project Manager within 2years.

I'll advise you to start off with a company in your field whichever niche you wanna focus on and no matter how small the company is, try and try and get as much experience aspossible.Milk it dry in terms of invaluable opportunities it could provide and believe mne it'll look good on your CV.More so, the ability to be able to sell yourself in interviews without looking desperate would take you very far.

Just my 2kobo

ayobase:

This is a very lovely thread, I have been longing
for something like this!!


A 400 Level student of Federal University Of Technology,
Yola
Adamawa State.

Will be going on IT within the last 1/2 of the year,
but would like to start working on something b4 next year
as a mini PROJECT!

I will like to get any past PROJECT that any Engineer has worked
on, this I might finally use as my PROJECT if permitted.

Is there is anyone that can help me in any way, ?

There are a couple of projects which I have worked on while I was in the university but I'm not sure if you could do the same in Nigeria due to a difference in syllabus and study materials available. I could tell you a couple of projects I did while at Imperial College though and I'm not sure how I could guide you towards writing your own project.

One of the projects is a software project titled "Nonlinear microwave circuit simulation using arithmetic operator method". I still have the write-up but for the sake of avoiding plagiarism, I could give you a hand with the project provided but it'll be best if you learn from it rather than just having the finished article else, thae'll not help you in anyway at all.

Oh well, see if that could give you a headstart firstly else, see what you could get from someone else. I could come with some other titles of projects I was involved in but for now I hope that helps.

iReport:

Akala is a leader and leaders do ask for God's grace and guidance. David, Solomon, Hezekiah, Obasanjo etc did so and God saw them through during their time of trouble. I don't see anything wrong with Akala doing the same.

[size=14pt]Jesus Christ of Nazareth!!! [/size]
Did I just read you mention David, Solomon, Hezekiah and Obasanjo in the same sentence?

AjanleKoko:

Hi,
My work experience is outlined on the first page of the thread, as well as some of my career experiences, so pardon me if I don't rehash it once again.

OH no, it's cool. I should have worded my question properly. I'm actually based abroad and presently working in the control systems division of electrical engineering after working as a power and distribution engineer in the last year.

AjanleKoko:

Engineering as a whole is still in the gestation stages in Nigeria, and there are lots of personal frustrations. I can say though that the future is bright, and this is the right time to be an EE person. In the last 10 years, the scope has changed, we have a lot of multi-billion dollar investments in energy and telecoms, and IT is now coming to the fore. The opportunities are beginning to surface. The kind of experience I have been able to gain over the last few years in Nigeria, I never thought was possible. Most EE contributors who have said one thing or the other and are practising here would
We still have a way to go, and this global crunch may slow things a bit, seeing as a lot of projects are being rescheduled or cancelled outright. Let's hope that the G20 'Marshall Plan' can get things into motion again, and we can pick up on the growth tip.
Telecom has proven to be the single most important contributor to the EE landscape in Nigeria, in terms of employment, projects and long term value so far. But I personally feel that the 'downstream' power sector (distribution) has huge potential, provided the 'cabal' who has a stranglehold on this industry can be stymied somehow. But we'll see.

At the moment though, I'm configuring PLCc and also intertwinning my role with the basic electronics engineering as you know they are all married together. I used to work for 4years as a Graduate Telecoms Engineer within IT/Telecoms field but I didn't fancy it that much because it's too vague and so I deem it not to be my cup of tea. However, in Nigeria now, what's the potential for Electrical Engineers right now as we speak.I have my experience in the UK in a top company (top 5 actually so I'll not like to reveal being a defence/aerospace secret of the country itself). What's the potential with Power Engineering and Control Systems Engineer? Could you get far in a place like Nigeria where manufacturing doesn't float our boats and we get to import everything? Mind you, I'm talking with the vague knowledge of Nigeria that I have in my memore being that I left the shores 11years ago and have never stepped foot over there.

What frustrates you overall as an Electrical Engineer? I could tell you all I know in the UK but I want to see things from abroad over the shore and be able to compare especially since we have someone like you with that knowledge.

I must have misread you then. Beg your pardon. But I've been waiting for a thread lke this. I would like to know how it works as an electrical engineer in Nigeria and in a different environment.Could you enlighten me again as to what your electrical enginering profession has been like over the years @ Ajanlekoko

allhavoc:

@ Becomrrich
that's exactly my worry, I'm afraid companies might feel the degree is over qualified for a position they still have to train you for. I don't expect to earn above a masters pay initially if I can get in the door but I've heard/read from numerous sources (including newspaper articles) that PhD limits your job opportunities. It will be unfortunate if I'm limited to academia or "consulting" from a university. Fingers crossed.

Mr Man, PhD does not limit your opportunity at all if you know what you're doing. In actual fact, the time spent working on your PhD is as good as being a stated as a work experience so don't get any negative information engraved in your brain right now else,you'll be the one limiting yourself. I have friends who have just concluded their PhDs and believe this or not, there are more electrical engineers in the finance sectors i.e. working in the city than there are actually accountants (I mean the investment banking) so just have the fighting mentality and the positive attitude, your PhD would take you places and that I can guarantee you.

Good luck.

Hello Peeps,

I'm also an electrical engineer by trade. And did I read that someone says at this day and age "you cannot get a job with a 2:2", that is an absolute farce. I could recount at least 20people who are close colleagues that secured a graduate positionjust last August before the economic downturn and they're still working in their chosen field as we speak.

It's all about the experience and if you could sell yourself at the interview, though I'm not trying to condone failure or mediocrity in any shape or form.

No2Atheism:

1. That is why the media is good at brainwashing people , with the kind of images they want people to remember.

2. Dooh, exactly, california is known as a city of hollywood and palm trees and celebrities, because that is that side of California that the media constantly wants people to see,

IF THE MEDIA WAS CONSTANTLY BOMBARDING US WITH IMAGES OF EARTHQUAKES, DRUG ADDICTION, CRIME, CORRUPTION, HOMOSEXUALITY, INSTEAD OF PALM TREES AND CELEBRITIES, OFF COURSE MOST PEOPLE WOULD ALSO THINK THAT IS WHAT CALFIFORNIA IS ALL ABOUT.

For exampled, the only side of Mexico being reported in the news today is the "Drug Wars", the American media makes it look like the "Drug War" in Mexico is so bad that the real Mexican Natives are now running away from Mexico,


THE POINT I AM MAKING IS THAT THERE IS ALWAYS A BIG PICTURE, hence Africans and Nigerians should never be naive enough to not see beyond the surface and motive of why a particular news is allowed on the air or news print in the western media.

Very true. But we all watch the documentaries about the gang culture which Los Angeles is being famed for and there's no hiding place when it comes to this as no amount of spinwould do it any good really however as much as the media still try to put a spin to a story, would you at least say how you think the report should have ended?

You should know controversy sells and the media themselves are tryign to sell papers so they have no choice but to use the very left winged choice of words which would paint the very picture they want people to see. Either way though,I don't think there's any form of propaganda in the report.Though I think the motto of journalism is being taken to the extreme by trying to milk the negativity of Lagos State to the extreme but come on now, you can't say we readers are too naive to say the problems being reported in Nigeria are that subtle that we should now try to crucify the messenger and ignore the message.

@ No2Atheism : Don't you think with that analogy of California, the city is though known for those you mentioned but it's more known as the city of palm trees and celebrities' haven etc. I think the writer could be biased however since Lagos is not known as the city of angels, how else could he have ended the article? What's your recommendation?

By the way, I'm not saying I'm on the writer's side.

Kobojunkie:

Roflmao!!! The mediocity dance continues!!!  No need to pay attention to the main message at all. The problem here is some american writer somewhere has mentioned something unfavourable, even though true, about Nigeria, so we need to get in attack mode. The potential attack is no big deal!! lol

I beg don't say that o. We don't have the facilities to deal with any terrorrists attack yet. I think @No2Atheism is a conspiracy theorists and hence is trying to takeaway the objectivity from the report.

Sammy107_d:

Must they end every bloody piece with this self-gratifying show of idiocy?

Can you give your own version of how you think the report should end then?

Kobojunkie:

If there is any place where the people need deliverance, salvation, and the church to show itself true, it is in Nigeria. I see no reason for these pastors to go out to other lands claiming they are out there to put out fire, while fire continuesto burn down their own land and everyone sees it from thousands of miles away.

Thanks and especially for this statement in bold.

Kobojunkie:

I know I do not know who sent him down there but if I were a South African, I would surely be one of those enquiring as to why he, the pastor, after seeing the many sick, and demon possessed, in his own country, would rather go out to "heal" those in another man’s country instead.

To be honest, it's all about expansion and fattening of the pocket, it makes sense trust me. I once went to one of the church branches in Manchester after being convinced by a stranger I met on the street through the normal street journalism, they welcomed me as a new-comer and then switched on the projector and played a DVD to depict that Pastor Chris is welcoming me personally and then the lady preacher told the people not to go to hospitals and instead coud be healed just by praying at the "word of faith" devotion book they've got (can't remember the real name). All that put me off and to be honest that was the last time I went there.

@Lucabasi
It's cool to have a word with you on here once more however, I hope you know that both home and abroad, Churches don't pay taxes as they're meant to be a form of charity and what right do you have to say that the ills of South African societies (i.e. violent demons and criminals in your own words) are being caused by the demons in the country and could be spiritually healed? Don't you think that's a bit below the belt?

Kobojunkie:

lol @B.O.S.S, What can you do? Nigerians will always be Nigerians. Even with complete blood transfusion, I doubt you can cause a lot of these to switch from their old ways. lol . I have always made it clear that it is the people I fear, not those in power. It is easy to sit lamponing the leaders each day but these very same go home to make the life of another miserable without batting an eye!. roflmao!!

Very True. I'm hoping to go to Nigeria though very very soon and to be honest I'm hoping to go there finally so I'm trying to develop a thick skin which would be everything-proof. I.e. NEPA proof, noise-proof, worry-proof (and not to be afraid of armed robbers), no-water proof (rather than water proof) else I'll only complain and kill myself as I was told. I'm also trying my best not to look at Nigeria with the same eye and try to see the silver lining and I hope it'll work but heck, it's only an observation and I doubt it'll improve sh!t cos it's just like the "rebranding a pig with a lip-stick" scenario.

Kobojunkie:

I work in front of a computer almost 24/7, so this is, for now, the way I keep my mind awake. I am doing well. Working slowly on other projects so I can take advantage of the openings created by this downturn and all. What have you been working on?

Well, the effect of this whole crisis is being felt where I am so there's no shying away especially since my job is in the construction/manufacturing sector with one of the biggest UK companies. There's really nothing to take advantage of as when the people aren't buying, there's nothing you could do other than to get yourself well equipped probably by taking up some other form of training in something else or just keep watching really and hoping for the best while you weather the storm. Apart from that, we're still on our NGO project though a tad bit slower than normal however, we get the response of the poeople whenever needed.

You'd hope with 12,000 people dead, our government would learn and hopefully this out of court money earned could be used to improve the lives of the people. Let's hope especially since our government has connived in hiding the amount received.

Nigeria's Kano State and US drugs firm Pfizer have agreed to settle a multi-million dollar lawsuit out of court, lawyers for both sides say.

Pfizer has been accused of killing 11 children and injuring 181 others when an antibiotic was tested on them during a meningitis epidemic in 1996.

The company denies the claims, saying they were victims of the outbreak.

The Kano State lawyer told the BBC compensation would be paid to victims, but figures could not yet be disclosed.

Barrister Aliyu Umar said money would also be given to a local hospital.

He made the comments after a court agreed to postpone the case until 25 May, with both sides saying they have come to a settlement but have yet to work out the details.

They promised not to disclose the amounts involved until they sit down and negotiate how to implement the agreement says Barrister Aliyu Umar.

"I want to report that broad and principal fundamental agreement has been reached between Kano State government and Pfizer," the drug firm's lawyer Anthony Idigbe said.

"They promised not to disclose the amounts involved until they sit down and negotiate how to implement the agreement," Mr Umar told the BBC's Hausa service
"This is all what remains to do so that the victims will get some compensation," he said.

According to Reuters news agency, Nigeria's federal government sued for an additional $6.5bn in 2007 but sources close to the negotiations have said it is expected to withdraw its case if Kano reaches a settlement.

Judge Shehu Atiku said the next hearing in the Kano case would be held on 25 May but said there was "a strong indication that the case is about to come to an end", Reuters reports.

In January, Nigerian families were given leave to sue Pfizer in the US over the affair.

The families say that Pfizer tested out an oral antibiotic called Trovan on some 200 ill children in hospital in Kano, without first getting the consent of their parents.

Pfizer has always maintained that the tests were carried out with the approval of the Nigerian government and that the children's parents were fully informed.

The 1996 meningitis epidemic killed 12,000 children in Nigeria in six months.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7982236.stm

[center]'Dozen dead' in NY state shooting    [/center]


A gunman has killed at least 12 people after taking dozens hostage in the US state of New York, the governor says.

One suspected gunman was later found dead inside the immigration centre in Binghamton, federal officials told the Associated Press news agency.

The police are reported to have taken two other people from the building in plastic handcuffs.

Many people are reported to have been injured during the shooting, north-west of New York City.


See www.bbc.co.uk

New York State Governor David Paterson confirmed that 12 or 13 people had been killed.

He said the situation was still developing but that it was a "tragic day for New York".

"We are monitoring the situation and I have directed the State Police to assist the Binghamton Police Department in any way they can," he told reporters.

An unnamed law enforcement official told the Associated Press that the FBI had sent negotiators to the scene.

At least four people were earlier seen being carried away from the building on stretchers. Their condition was not known.

A spokeswoman for Our Lady of Lourdes hospital told the BBC several people had been admitted with "serious" injuries.

Susan Linerode said the hospital was expecting to receive more casualties and staff had been told to stay at work.

Rifle

Eyewitness reported seeing a man of Asian appearance in his 20s entering the ACA building in mid-morning local time.
He was described by local media as being 1.6m to 1.8m (5ft 8in to 6ft) and wearing a bright green nylon jacket and dark-rimmed glasses.

The town's Mayor Matthew Ryan told reporters the gunman was carrying a high-powered rifle.

There were reports that several dozen people had been hiding in the building but witnesses said they later saw groups of people leaving.

The Binghamton Press & Sun Bulletin said homes nearby had been evacuated and a police commando unit was at the scene.

It said apartments and a nearby school and care home were under lockdown and some streets had been sealed off.

Bob Joseph of WNBF Radio told the BBC the town had never experienced an incident on such a scale before.

The ACA says on its website that it assists immigrants and refugees with personal and immigration counselling.

St☆rStruck:

Really? If you see them tell them they deserve a public whipping. I can't even begin to imagine what they were fighting for.

Public whipping? How about public apology to all Nigerian females?

Sauron is too funny with that Tracy comment (except it's true).

How's it going Kobojunkie? I guess you're still busy giving your opinions on the people swimming in the murky waters of fate of our dear nation.

I hope you've been good.

blacksta:

What is funny.  can we devise a plan similar to the orange movement- what happened to so called Nigerian Development thread that was started many threads ago

Well, the movement is still in progress (http://www.mynigerianproject.org/) but we're being hampered by registration at the moment which takes 6months minimum and well belive it or not costs $1000 all of which is coming from our pockets so the vision is not dead; and as mentioned by KoboJunkie above, Nigeria's success cannot be relied on the dreams of a group of high aiming youths however it requires a collective effort.

More so, there's room for growth and more NGOs but that's not just what Nigeria needs.

I got fed up with the constant negativity, tribalism and hate on here hence my hiatus. Hello there Kobojunkie and Must_a_far

Kobojunkie:

Registering is a good way for the state to get its own share of the profit and maybe force these filmmakers to make more decent movies rather than a 1001 trash movies each year. They need to start contributing their share to development if they intend to continue shooting movies. I hope other states adopt the same.

You mean 1001 trash movies a week?

jamace:

I 'm ok, brother.

But those lesbians are no babies. I detest lesbianism.

My stand is that, in life and according to circumstance, sometimes  it is necessary to use "evil" deeds/actions get  good results.

You really are openly advocating gang-rape as a cure for lesbianism? Are you seriously in your right mind? This is beyond joke.

bawomolo:

happy birthday grinch. many more years to the nazi mustache

debosky:

@ BOSS

focus on the subject matter, not Abati.

There is something fundamentally wrong with the way we are doing things if we can't even seem to make progress given all our inherent advantages. Why can't we get things straight? The article posit that it is due to poor leadership - is that the problem?

Is poor leadership the reason why okada men in Lagos defecate by the roadside? Or is it the cause of so many people not paying tax?

@ Debosky

When it comes to taxes, I think Abati might have got this one right. In developed countries, people are forced to pay their taxes and they are well aware of the implications if they don’t. So I’ll say the messenger hit the bulls eyes with that point. I remember my dog trainer once told me that had he known earlier on, he’d had lied to the government and rather than declare his real earnings.

Disclaimer. I guess I still have every right to shoot the messenger for his lack of trust so far and refusing to speak to his readers when they need him most.

Kobojunkie:

How is it being misused? The guy announced it at a prayer meeting for pete’s sake!

I mean there are so many pastors now misusing these so-called revelations from any instincts is now being turned to one and they even have the horse sense to call it revelation.

Kobojunkie:

Now, about his friends, I can not answer for him but how do you know he did not tell them what people believe is the truth?

I guess he probably didn’t make it public then did he?

Kobojunkie:

I did mention earlier that I do not agree with him all the time. Matter of fact, apart from his being superintendent of the church, I really don’t care much for what he thinks or feels. Lol . I am just saying, this particular statement was made in a PRAYER MEETING.

Due to the mere fact that such revelation was made in a prayer meeting makes it more sensible to broadcast it because it makes political sense and especially because it’s in the interest of the whole nation. Don’t you think?

By the way, have you started planning for seven years of drought?   

Disclaimer : You have every right to be biased especially if you really trust in the word with all your heart and lean not unto your own understanding.

debosky:

Twenty nine years after its own civil war, Nigeria has refused to function. It carries on as if it is still in a state of war.

Wetin Abati dey yearn? No be 39years after civil war he suppose talk? Or the issue of the land don dey worry am?

My calculator says na 39years e be after civil war of 1970.

[size=14pt][center]Oh well, Mr Abati, how far with Abuja Land now?[/center][/size]