I also have something similar in my position as well.

Signed/signed approval which we got from Nexthome. Let me know if you need this as well.

Excuzeme:



Infact, l am asking @Maverick to keep this "approval" very well and not release it to anyone in that office until Alausa calls him to "testify" in this case. Are you in Lagos at this very moment? Leave me a (your) contact number here so someone (not me) can contact you

I am a friend.

Oga Maverick,

Why do u seem surprised at lack of intervention from our Mods or Elders?

There is no surprise here. Alot of people have complained here and all they do is look on and amuse themselves when people are losing out on their money.

All I can say is that the baton will be passed on to them and they can experience the pain as well.

Oga/Madam Excuzeme thanks alot for your intervention.

mavverick:
Hi Excuzeme

Thanks for your time going through the details, I am just surprised what the Mods or some so called Elders have been doing all this time, well anyway we dont know who is who boyfriend wise ! Big thumbs up to those who have made constructive and sensible feedback.

Back to the details, the name of the Guy who said he did the approval was Opeyemi, 08063911781. I have never met him before it was when things started to get funny that I had to collect his number. I have also sent you a message via NL, I can provide all the particulars that I have with me, even more incriminating than what I have posted up here.

Also, at the time of the approval thing, I didnt know that the area doesn't have a layout yet (why would I proceed if i knew, doesn't make sense), it was when it was taken to Alausa for verification late last year that they made it clear to me that how could you have got approval when the area doesnt have a layout yet, they also confirmed it as fake. If there is any evidence to show that I approved the processing of a fake building plan despite knowing that consent is still in processing at the time, the area has no layout or any other condition, I will ask Bosun to provide this, its not a word vs word, I operate based on facts which is what i have provided for all to see.

I guess I dont need to say more.

Oga Brabus,
We wont go on too long with this.
The battle has long finished but if you claim that we did not need an approval then I don't understand

a) what 187K was paid for (even though the comments on it say for Building Change Order Approval and
b) why you furnished us with a fake approval with our architectural drawings ( or is this incorrect)?

I always promised not to come on NL for any of your matters. we have moved on so lets leave it here.

There will always be claim and counter-claim and we will end up derailing the thread so lets agree to disagree.

Apart from you,I and my siblings God definitely knows what transpired between all of us and he will judge us accordingly.

brabus:
Oga brag3, thanks for the birthday wishes.

I would normally not like to comment on this issue any more to allow the thread for its intended purpose.

But here are few facts to take away on your issue.

1. I came out point blank to tell you that your building wouldn't require approval before I took the project and not after or during the course of the project. So you weren't misled and there was no time you were called back to come and pay any other sum of money for anything even when the officials came, I just called the guy I question to attend to the issue and it was cleared without your involvement.

2. Is there any time I discuss the approvals with you one on one or even the payment required for it? I may have forgotten but whether you believe me or not the fund I requested was not up to half of what you paid. Now, it may not matter what I did with the balance anymore because you paid me and not .... But it is what it is. And if only one can obtain call records from network operators, it would have been a perfect evidence in this case.
You're not there so you would never know if I didn't tell you.

3. That approval can't be gotten without C of O or consent isn't something I'll like to discuss here. But I tell you, airin jina ni ai ri abuke okere. Toto se bi owe. Let's leave that part for LAWMA.

4. I didn't deny that fact that I told you that the approval for your new building is not my remit according to my letter on 28/10/2015. Experienced have shown me to learn to say No when you need to say no.

5. There's never a receipt for backdoor operations.

Again, thank you for your time. Also as per Maverrick obtaining his money. I don't hold on to what is not mine but I asked a simple question in my posts. What would have done if you were in my shoes? Ask him to go ahead and settle the officials? Or get him to commence his processing and get the approval in process?

I've asked him to come with me to the office where they did the stuff. How hard can it be? How hard is it to set up a conference call and get everything recorded to substantiate his claims. He had direct link to the guy even though he's trying hard to convince the guy to say I'm a fraud. That's the reason why Alausa confirmed it fraud and not the office that was right in front of his house that have jurisdiction. I'm sure if the guy had said something of such, we will have seen multiple screenshots.

Baba, thanks for you time again.

Mr Brabus (Bosun) here we are again. The same issues keep following you around. Let me make this clear before I comment on your response. I have nothing whatsoever against you. For all I know you may be a smashing bloke. You may even be the next best thing since sliced bread but what is clear here is that your business practices leave a lot to be desired.

You may knowingly and even unknowingly have done this but one thing that is crystal clear for all to see is that you have misled your clients on a number of occasions with false pretences of being able to deliver certain things. Again these could have all been done to get things done (as is the case here in Nigeria) but please bro let’s call a spade a spade and admit there is a pattern here with your clients including myself of such activities.

Everyone here is aware of my experience with you on a few issues so no need dredging all that up. I will however say that this approval thing is not new to you.

As you may or may not recall we had exactly the same issue with you. Our site in question already had an approval for a certain type of structure but since we wanted to change it you agreed that you can get what is called an amended approval and for this you were paid 220k (no need for screenshot unless you insist). The comments on the bank transfer even state this clearly so our state of mind or expected outcome cannot be disputed.

You then provided signed (and somewhat) sealed copies of what we were led to believe were our signed approval (ope oooo).
When we realised that this was indeed a fake approval I confronted you via emails and also on here about it and your response was that we did not pay for approval but for clearing the way so that work can continue (your exact words).

Obviously we all know now that approval cannot be gotten without Consent or CofO which we did not have at the time so I guess you took advantage of our naivety/ignorance.

I know you mentioned a few times that you had to pay some fees to local authorities when they came to site. It could be even possible that you exhausted the 220k to cover these fees. I can neither confirm nor deny this as you never sent us any receipts.

I can also say that since we parted company we have had to pay fees to the local authority who disturbed us due to lack of approval. You will recall sometime late last year we spoke to you about this and you said it was not your concern but due to the fact that we had another structure. I even sent you the letter that the authorities brought and you said it was not issue. Fair enough we let it go.

I have not contacted you since then as all parties have moved on and made progress in their own ways. I did mention to you a while back that one day you will meet someone who is not ready to back down for you and in Maverick I think you may just have met him.

Now, I am not encouraging this drama to go on neither do I condone any threats/calls to your wife but sometimes we seek Justice in different ways when the RED midst comes over us. Oga Maverick please we beg you not to continue down this route.

Having said this, this guy deserves some kind of Justice. We can’t all remain silent while people lose out on hard earned money.

I am sure 400k will not affect Oga Maverick in any way as we have all seen what he is building and even Brabus always comments on how much money he has spent so far. I think he is driven by the principle of Justice. I am also confident that 400k cannot affect Brabus in any way as he seems to have a good thing going for him so why not settle this matter and let us all move on.

And before I forget Happy belated birthday and wedding anniversary

brabus:
@fyguy, the money paid is meant for approval. The guy agreed to do the approval but he said the client needs to bring in all the necessary supporting documents when they're ready so as to complete the process. Pls don't get me wrong.

The thing is the client want to build and I told him I won't want to have a face off with the government agencies which made me to ask the client to try and tidy up loose ends before moving to site. So in essence, it will mean it's a work in progress and not that nothing has been done and we are building without approval when the Lagos guys comes.

Yes, I realized this may be a bad pattern to follow but what I did was to avert paying huge sum for settlement when you can actually use the same to commence the processing legitimately. The same thing applied to the other guys you mentioned. The Lagos guys went to the site and the client never had to pay anything at the time they visited because I've already asked the guy to take care of it.

Now, coming back to tell me the approval was fake. Alausa has confirmed it fake is not something I can understand. The same guy did the approval for my site at Agungi and I never had issues with the Lagos boys and everything was cleared out when all the processing documents were complete. I can recall a Nairalander building on the same axis with me at Agungi calling to ask for how to go about it. I just forwarded the details of the guy to him and asked them to deal directly.

Now, if the best way to go is to leave all third party operations to client to deal with whoever directly. I think I'll do just that to have my peace. But I'm only acting as a broker between the two parties and more importantly protecting my clients interest while building the structure.

One thing I want the client to be sincere of is this. He knew I did all my best on his project and what made me mad is that he chooses to pick on my innocent self all the time and ran away from the real issues crumbling his project.
Will you ever believe that we spent almost 3 days to do the DPC of a house that's less that 340m²? Why?

The same way I told him about securing approval from the govt, I told him to offset Omo oniles so that we can work without disturbance. But even after paying the Omo oniles the sum of 400k directly by himself through his good friend who helped him purchase the land, the guy still come back at every MINUTE (even seconds) to demand for payments from the client and had to delay work and cause all sort of nuisances. Everybody involved in the payment were just playing games with the client and I told him why should you pay 400k to someone and still end up getting billed another 900k plus for the construction itself. This is insane. Something needs to be done about it. It was at this point that all the territorial powers in the dynasty ganged up against me saying that I am blocking their way. I ensured the client terminate his relationship with that his friend when he came to meet me right in the presence of the same me mavverick to ask for his percentage on the job that I was doing and I told him you can come and collect the job that I owe him nothing.

Too much stories but in all honesty I feel pity that mr Maverrick chose to be played by all the people he associated with and he feel good about it so long they are not related to Brabus.

Lots of accusations here and there. But here's the big question.

1. When material are purchased? Who confirms the quantity?
2. How many occasions did I tell him the granite been supplied to him is not 30 tons that 30 tons truck cannot get to the site?
3. The wood supplier keeps pressurizing him to buy woods to the extent that bamboo for the decking were supplied at lintel stage and I was like why the succumbing to pressure. Has wood become a scarce commodity? Problem starts when materials are kept without on site without a good goal keeper.
4. At a point in time, I got so mad that the man is loosing too much on materials because it's like he was been held down at gun point. I then told him to compare the estimates and confirm it everything is going according to plan. I even went ahead to tell him to recheck the expenses during the foundation stage when we managed the work viz a viz other stages that he managed. That was there any time we went over budget or come back asking for extras/variations?
5. What would mr mavverick have done when the officials came to mark X on the site if there was no prior arrangement? I'm sure we can read that there's no where he can claim to pay twice for the same thing here. Maybe, he will be happy to pay whatever the guy charged him and be happier for it so long it wasn't handled by Brabus. So refund is completely out of it if no money was paid to settle the boys during the period of construction.


As much as DIY is good, if you choose to turn blind eye to good advices, just consider yourself as another Moses leading the Israelites to the promise land. The suppliers will be happier for it.

For those who do not know, sand sells for 9 and 13k for 15 and 20 tons in the mining site. Every other cost is transport, profit and settlements. Isn't it fair enough to look for ways to cut excesses in other to avoid project overrun?

Trouble started looming when mr Maverrick is offshooting his target at every phases and I asked him if you paid the sum of money to me and I come back to you, what will you have done? He said I cannot do it because I'm not a Santa Claus and I told him. Yea, you're right but what he's doing is what I did for 3strike for N10m and we did all that was required of us without asking the client for any dime extra. No accusation of stealing whatsoever. I handled the payment of Omo Onile fee at 3strike site when the boys had turned themselves into militants and we never had to pay any extra till completion of works. If anything is paid to anyone, it'll be after I was gone and I knew that man (3strike), he will not pay any kobo.

Again, let me rest here. Mr mavverick, I'm not your enemy and I'm sure your main enemies will be happy the obstacle is pushed out but I'm happier for it and at the same time feel pity in the sense that you're living with enemies within. Sorry if you misconstrued my actions as a means of exploiting you but I've been there before you, walked the walk and not just talk the talk, so I know how it feels when you are paying too much and getting too little.

In real estates, there's no one to impress!

Apologies for my role here.
Sometimes things have to be said before they go too far.
No vex Oga skimanski and all other NL members.

skimanski:
Infanct I don vex. Na to start to write names of noise maker for this class now. Since we no wan learn about building again, instead,we wan dey fight our selves. Every body go back to ur seat, Hold your book and pen and pay attention. Class is about to start!!!!

Uncle start teaching!!!

I need an any idea of window shutters fabricators . Teachers in the house. !!!

Case closed. No wahala.
I dont need your sympathy. I did not come to you for the money neither did you come to me for your project.
So lets agree to disagree. We move on.

EgunMogaji:


I don't like you, nothing personal. There are many people I don't like on here. We agreed to disagree previously. You should thank Mavverick for nudging my hornets nest.

I have no interest in coming after your family, means nothing to me. Are you Awolowo, Azikwe, Kuti or other such societal family? Puleeze get a fng grip

I've never stolen from you and have shown nothing but sympathy for what happened on your project.

It's not a peepee measuring contest - yea

Haha. story. Feeling is so so mutual.
Whether you choose to like me or not is irrevelant.
You make noise and the run away an change your Moniker.
This is faceless. I dont dislike you ooo. You don't even exist in my world.
When you come after me or my family You would have me waiting for you. Trust me. I will always be waiting for you.

EgunMogaji:


Not jealous. Just shows your inherent character which means you are not a group I choose to take seriously.

Brabus is not my boyfriend anymore than ALL the builders on here are. All of them.

I haven't stolen a cent from anyone on NL and no one has stolen a cent from me. So I have no reason for animosities.

I just don't like you personally

Lucky you...

EgunMogaji:


But a good small boy from a honest familia

Project date and 5 pics please...

EgunMogaji:


But a good small boy from a honest familia

Project date and 5 pics please?

EgunMogaji:


You rang?

Pay more attention in class as I already did.

I'm mad at you though, you're not following me tightly enough if you missed my response

Maybe your Sister hocked your monitor

Project date and 5 pics please.
Leave trash for LAWMA please.
My sister robbed us. Yes we agree. it's our money not yours so I don't see your issue. or are you jealous that your boyfriend was in bed with my sister?
Just supply the pics please. Nothing else.
No Trash talk. The pics will tell a thousand stories.

EgunMogaji:


Why, thank you Sir

Like I'm supposed to be offended by couple of guys with a fraud for a Sister who robs them

You're funny too.

Have a nice weekend.

...... Egunmaji. please respond.

Excuzeme:



It does not apply to me in anyway because for starters, l am not in your League ....in "real life" but that is something l like to downplay since we are all anonymous on the forum.
[b]
Secondly, you might come here to run your mouth about California and do some "copy and paste" in order to impress some folks here but for someone like me, l have "seen you through and seen through you"! Just looking at your project, shows the level of your pocket and l can tell you man, you are way far-far below. Maybe tomorrow, you will be on-top, Nobody knows but please, stop 'forming'!

All those "phantom ideas" you copy and paste here, we both know you cant afford them as of today.... and that tells me (while looking at what you can afford) that you are just one "struggler" hopping from one pay-check to another, in the U.S.

Even in the U.S, we both know there are "levels" .....and you dont belong at all, using any yardstick of measure! You cant even afford an Engineer (even in Advisory role!) nor can you even buy the best of materials for that you tiny little project... despite all your "copy and paste" of the best of things, from the internet!
So where is your 'hype and swagger' going to come from, ........that gives you the effrontery to be rude, arrogant and insulting to everyone here like you are 'somebody of value'?
I just laugh each time l see you 'forming' in your post, like you are 'somebody' in America.... with enough Dollars to build a Mansion in six months![/b]

I hate to write things like this but its your type that puts his finger into one's mouth, that brings such words out, as you need to be brought down to reality. I wont say more than this as l dont want to take it personal.
I have said my mind and l have no intention of throwing brick-bracks with you but God forbid that l will boast (as l have nothing that is not of God) but please, do me a favour and stop being an eegit!

BTW: I have a family (wife and children), l am very fit, as l am into sports (swimming, biking, "mature-men" football and indoor aerobics) and if we look at it, you are the one that needs to get a new wife, after the last one left your broke azz, Nigga!

Bro,
Why do u ask him that?
This guy cannot afford it. He is just a real small boy forming to be something else.
Let him show pictures of what he has achieved in the last 2 years.
He can come on here and disturb the peace of sensible people looking to make progress.
He will soon change his moniker and keep quiet.
He just needs to be ignored. Like I said before. it's not a curse. What we have spent in last 6 months he wont be able to afford in 10 years. Mark my words.

Happykay:


Uncle
Why do you have to come home twice a year
Don't you have Families member who could have managed your project for you in your absence ?
After all your adopted son here brabus (the Oga thief ) is an engineer with repute

SMH. You are so funny and way below childish.
You are not man enough to speak directly to me or my brother so I will come directly to you.
When you made your comments yesterday the rash side of me wanted to respond in kind but the sensible side of me decided to speak to others before I descend to your level and the overwhelming consensus was that I should total ignore you as you are not worth my time. Some even said and I quote below

“I was gonna tell you that. Pls just ignore him sometimes. He is very rude and think he knows it all. But we are all still learning.
and from the way he goes you will think he has completed many project.
But he has not even done a foundation...”

Some also said “You know how many times I have ignored him... and he does that in every forums.. he has used about 4 nanms now.”
So I decided to listen to them and let it slide.
Today you have decided to rear your ugly head again and I won’t take this from you.
You made yourself God of NL and find pleasure in attacking people even though you have nothing going for you.
I wont trash your family as I have utmost respect for them. I am a man and will face you man on. Trust me.
You have claimed everyone is below your level so lets do a simple test here.
You have opened your mouth to spout out so much trash even LAWMA cant cope anymore.
Why don’t we do this? Back up your big mouth with some simple facts so that the whole NL can see exactly what/who you are.
You and I. lets do the following. Put the date of when we started our project and show 5 recent pictures of what stage we are and let us see exactly what level we are both on.
Not that cage that you live in USA but that garage you are building in Ibadan for the last 2 years.
Your Boyfriend Brabus knows all about our site. He went with my brother to see the owner before it was purchased and he even helped with negotiations. Brabus also worked on this project from Excavation and shop to foundation and Lintel so he can verify whatever I put up here.
Not all of us want to do arrangee and marry a lady to give us citizenship of another country. Not all of us want to leave our motherland to go and be doing 4 jobs for our slave masters. No wonder your wife left your broke ass when you cannot perform after doing 4 jobs in one day.
You have been fully exposed here Egunmaji. No matter what other monikers you use you will always be a small boy. You can’t even afford a supervisor in an advisory role yet you can come here and start looking for cheap laterite or pasting pictures of things you will never be able to do in the next 10 years.
You can choose to do one or all of the following
1) Revert to type and respond with trash as you always do in which case I won’t respond. LAWMA will come here and clean it up
2) Put project date commencement and 5 recent pictures and I will do the same.
3) Show us all some courtesy and STFU

What we have spent on buying the land alone u cannot afford in the next 10 years. That’s not a curse but a fact.
Some people on here have completed 3 sites during the same time you started and don’t even make noise yet you come on here and spout trash even though you have not even completed foundation of a garage.
Do us all favour and crawl back under the stone you came out from or better still get a life.

EgunMogaji:


Thanks for sharing with us my oga Rushtec.

I've heard that some nefarious characters indeed change the warranty terms to make an inferior product appear better than it is.

Who knows what kind of home those common thiefs come out of. Maybe the types of homes where Sisters are raised to steal from their brothers like two on here

Thanks Brabus. 3D drawings received today.
Whilst I appreciate you sending this now it's abit too late in the game, don't you think?
You sent the techinal drawings on the 19th October 2014 and a year later on (12/12/2015) you send the 3D drawings because I came to complain on Nairaland.
I think it defeats the purpose of what we paid for from day one as work has gone much much further in that time.
But like I said thank you. better late than never..........

In future let your clients know upfront exactly what they will be getting when they engage/pay for any of your services.

brabus:

Brabus,

Please send me my 3D diagram. we paid 250k for drawings and you only gave us architectural drawings.

PLEASE SEND US OUR 3D DIAGRAM. you have my email so I will be expecting this.

brabus:
@Qc1

Thanks for the words of encouragement sir. I know you were always there to support us in trying times.

Here we will like you to deal with the specifics of what Brabus/NextHome/Bosun Davies did wrong and how you think we can best serve your interest.

Thank you Oga skimanski,

This is what I told Brabus when I first asked him for my 3D diagrams, He blatanly said it was not part of the package after taking 250K from us.

How can you charge for drawings with showing us what the final structure will look like.

Brabus, please where is my 3d diagram? I don't want to result to calling you names so please do the honourable thing and send it to my email.

Don't let this turn into another fiasco.

skimanski:



Bros. Forget long story. Use your money, pay tha architect. Make em do 3D send give the client. Just sacrifice even if you feel say you no dey owe am 3D but for the sake of make matter die. Na em be the professional way to go.

And note now since you ain't an Architect. Maybe your architect didn't tell you. 3D is a presentational part of an architectural package. As there are floor plans that show the floor layout of what the Architect had in mind, roof plans that show what the architect had in mind regarding the roof, and many other parts of the full drawing package, so is there a 3D representation that show the finish look from the architect point of view. That way a normal human being can relate to a complex group of coordinates drawn on a platform and called architectural drawings.

If you know you have done it, send it to him. If you haven't , use an extra money, count your losses and send the 3D. Make the matter end.

So Brabus,
you now admit that 3D is part of the package.
So how come you wanted to charge us an extra 30k for this after we paid 250k?

Please can you also send my 3D diagram to me? you have my email details so I will expect this as well.

The fact that I have been quiet does not mean I have let it go so please send me 3D diagram to me.

Will be expecting it this week.

brabus:
Oga Skimanski,

Money was paid on the 9th of April. On the 22nd of April, I posted this on Nairaland which was equally given to the client in hard and soft copy. https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/12#32983023

The 3D of the 4 Unit of 4 Bedroom Terrace Duplexes in Ologolo.

We don't just paste pics here. We may need it for reference in times like this.

Brabus why again?
I have been following this story silently and could not help drawing the similarities with our project.
Same story. We paid 250K for drawings and what did we get? we got only architectural drawings? when we ask Brabus for mechanical and electrical drawings we were told that this was not part of the package. I then asked why we would pay 250k for just these drawings and Brabus responded that my sister took some of the money that we paid to him. I am sure you all know that story so wont dig that up.
We then asked for 3D which is supposed to be part of the package and was told No. Brabus then told us (my brother) that he can do it for 30k extra to which I totally disagreed with and we let it go.

I know my brother still contacts you (no qualm). He is not here so cannot feel the pain that we have been put through with alot of rework that was needed to get to where we are today.

You come on here and paste updates trying to reel the next mug in but you really need to be very careful. As someone alluded to in the previous post you really need to be careful that you don't pick a crazy mad client cause trust me they wont bother with NL.

This story with Maverick could have been handled well away from here but from what has been published he tried to settle this offline and you posted him like royal mail only to now send him the soft copy. Why did you have to wait till it got very ugly before you gave him what was duly his?

I know you have many victims here and alot of us have let it go but PLEASE be very careful. You really don't want to have a marker on your back.

Enough said.....

OnetimeOnly:


Is Brabus/Nexthome the luckiest scammer on Nairaland Building Section?

I have observed the building/ property section from a distance and not made many comments. And the activities of Brabus /Nexthome have given me cause to worry. I think he is both the most skillfull marketer and disreputable builder on this forum at the same time.

My observations

1.He is not a professional builder.

Honestly, this is the weakest argument against Brabus. You don't have to be 'a professional', but you can be professional.
Brabus is not a building professional,but pretends to be one. He may be knowledgeable about how to put up a building (this does not preclude him from the industry but at least be professional to clients )

2.Poor/shoddy job quality,allegations of fraud and theft

Incorrect quantity or materials supplied,
Columns not aligning,cement bags in concrete mix, missing iron rods from site,using regular wood when marine was paid for ,counterfeit drawings, sub-contractors and suppliers not paid.... what the.... (na only you?)

3.All is good until money starts changing hands.
Excellent client relationship until money issues are concerned. Then the name calling and advice giving from a distance starts. I am yet to see a full spectrum of jobs done from start to finish for Nairalanders without complaint (i stand to be corrected on this. Pls really!)


4.Pasting photos like educational materials , meanwhile marketing himself(which is not bad)

Remember the ile-oluji projects. Pasting photos of work not done by him until the client came out screaming!

5.Photo Essays.
Each project is a photo opportunity to draw in the next client ,while not fulfilling full obligations.

6. Brabus is NEVER wrong
No matter what, never accept responsibility for actions on your project site. This is Brabus/nexthome's way. It is always the client that did something wrong. Calling clients who paid you money names, after they air greviances

7.Master of deflection
Changing topic in the middle of a thread, once serious allegations are made with new pictures or glossy future project and real estate seminars. And aligning with established builders to cover up

8.Cracking jokes after serious allegations are made about work done . This is after people have cried out their hearts and serious grievances on this forum

Clients beware

P.S. I am a professional architect who has never and would never work or had any interaction with Brabus/ Nexthome.

Maverick efforts to alert people of his work reputation should not be shut down.
Anybody on this forum who is swayed by his advertising should also be aware of his reputation beforehand. Several of his clients were aware of his reputation and still went into business with him. We should stop this " don't spoil his livelihood" argument. If people allege and show evidence of shoddy jobs and fraud from their livelihood why should they not sound the alarm to others.

The beautiful thing is people will see all this information about Brabus/ Nexthome and enter the trap. Why? Is it because he is the luckiest scammer on Nairaland Building Section?

Brabus again.
What can I say that has not already been said.

Like 3strike said we lost the battle but we are winning the war.

Time will always catch up on those who constantly seek to deceive and hurt others

3strike:
Lets just say we Lost the battle but won the war. We cut our losses and Yes....Life goes on!



#3strikes!!!

Bro if not my brother a lot of things will have happened o.

Let's just leave it that. You and I will find it hard to see face to face. That's just a fact. I don't mince words and use too much English.

You know where the breakdown started. When you insisted on charging me for rental of marine boards that I had paid for in the first phase which you did not even use but chose to use wood instead.

Let's not open wounds that are healing. You have too much pon your plate with other clients who don't have trusting siblings like me.

And for the record I never insisted on bring my own iron Bender When did u get this from?
Have u forgotten that you were paid for iron blender and caster for which you duly returned my money when our relationship soured.

Or did you not refund some labour costs to me prior to delivering my iron rods? What were the costs for?

Like I said before let's leave time to heal our wounds

brabus:


Sir, you should have called my attention to those rework. I'll be glad to fix them at no cost to you.

I never had issues with you supplying the materials. I just said I'm not interested in supervising people I have never met. Remember you told me you're bringing your carpenter and iron bender.

Brabus again? When does this end?

Everyone else seems to have come to the same conclusion that you are responsible until decking phase. Even you have openly admitted such so the pictures that reflect anything until decking are your responsibility. I don't think a client supplying materials should mean he has to suffer for it. Remember this is what led to the end of our relationship when you decided that I could not suplply materials for my own project. We have moved on since then but please don't for once think that I was 1000% happy with what you left behind. I had a a lot of rework to do but chose against pursuing you due to my brothers insistence that I let the matter go.

Not everyone is like him o and I really hope that you don't encounter someone that will take blood from you as a payment for all the incomplete/substandard jobs that your clients seem to get from you.

No one is perfect bro but no one also picks money from tress. You are toying with. People's hard earned dollars/pounds/Nara or whatever currency they earn they pay.

Kindly resolve this amicably with your clients and learn from it

lastpage:
I also think Brabus should stop calling himself a "Supervisor" simply because the Clinet asked you not to supply Materials anymore or said he would be paying on a Daily basis.

You Brabus, is the BUILDER.

The Builder is a Contractor who "implements and supervises the Construction work" of the building (or is there even any other thing he does, since he does not carry head Pan?).... except he is not on ground and chose to delegate the Supervision (in his absence), to a competent person.

Even at that, you still remain the BUILDER and hence the responsibility for the structural Safety of that Building, still rests with you.

God forbid, if there was a collapse, who do you think will be held responsible....at first instance?\
All these "word-play" is nothing but DECEIT!

Let us call a spade, a spade!


Latstpage!

Thank you Sir.

Can you please let us know who has been bragging so we can avoid them in future?

Weigher:
It is a pity that some people are using big grammar and sweet names to claim lord of granite here, they are liars. I only know of two people out of here on nairaland that are quarry agent others are third parties relying on the info that their quarry customer furnished them only come on nairaland to brag. I have worked with a lot of quarries in Abeokuta as a scale man still working with one now. The facts that some of them buy from quarry agent. I only know of two quarry agent, one is within 40 who is a nairalander and the other One is in his early 30 thirties. In 2009/10, we knw hw many of them on ground but some people who are far away from happening in quarry suddenly hijacked through the use of big grammars. There is a strict procedure to become quarry agent. period

Aventures=quality

Aventures:
pics

Is the finished article pleasing on the eye?
Can one spot the difference a mile off or is it hard to tell the difference? Is it a strong enough to resist our hard weather conditions? heavy rain and ghastly winds?

KolaShangOne:

I don't think one of its main advantages is cost.. I'm still waiting for Abdulwastecx to clear the air. For me, it has to be reduction in weight, and flexibility ( it can be used for houses with no columns )
Disadvantage is the joining.. It doesn't look good on d eye when it's being joined..

speaking of polystyrene facial, I am very interested in this but it does seem more expensive than the other paraphets. I wrongly assumed it was a much cheaper option. Am I mistaken?

KolaShangOne:


Bros there was a part where he said he was blocked on WhatsApp and had no other way to reach his client.

But its alright.. Sir Lastpage and Sir Brag3 please let it go. I'm begging o.. Let's focus on Polystyrene facial..

This no be big deal. simple things

Moi has forgotten already

KolaShangOne:


Bros there was a part where he said he was blocked on WhatsApp and had no other way to reach his client.

But its alright.. Sir Lastpage and Sir Brag3 please let it go. I'm begging o.. Let's focus on Polystyrene facial..

exactly my point bro.
he did not need to come on here and let every tom dick and harry know he is sorry.
he could have done that privately and let us use the forum for discussions.
why come and apologise here when it is a private matter.

some people dont understand simple comments and always wish to blow things out of context

johnson232:

My brother just stay off this issue, u may really not
know the politics going on behind, so as not to be the odd man.

What u just explained was my own understanding of your comment. I don't think this place is the best platform to tender such ingratiating apologies.

It is always better to resolve issues privately.

What supplier? Have u got me confused with someone else?

Do you need to go spec servers?

lastpage:




when "two people" are having issues, l think if you cannot contribute POSITIVELY, the best thing to do is to "stay out of it"....
...... not make snide remarks that show you are "blindly" taking sides.

Your comment above is completely unnecessary and reckless.

For @brag3 to have just quoted this post of his supplier, right in the middle of the current discussion, means there is 'more to it' than that quote (and reading the quote itself reveals a prior issue).
l personally dont know what went on between the two except for what @brag posted up there. So, l wont jump at it nor expect anyone to ...

Next time, l think it is proper to first ask questions and understand what is going on/what really occurred ...before pitching your tent.
You did not contribute anything to the "core issue" ..........but rather just made that your "impressionistic" comment!

"3rd party" Opinions on matters of grouse between two people, no matter the "overriding implicit interest", MUST be informed



Lastpage!

Edited: Mind you, l am not taking brief for either of the two parties simply because l dont have all the relevant information of what transpired.
Maybe with the passage of time, l will "be informed" of what happened but my comments should not be misinterpreted as condoning/defending or antagonising either party.

If you actually understand what sob story means you won't even comment on it.

I have not idea what transpired between you and your client and I don't wish to know.

All I was saying that you should grow a pair and not come on here and start begging like a desperado.

Thacts all. Your begging acts wrinks of desperation. Nothing else.

Please look up what sob story actually means.

smiley001:
Na wa for some ppl ooo. Something u av no knowledge of yet u still commented 'Why the Sob story' or 'Abi o '. And a post that wasn't even directed at u.

I believed dis was a personal thing btw the Moniker I quoted and I. And I didn't want to make it public and for d fact that I openly apologised didn't mean I wronged him or I was wrong becos I still av d chats wit me.

If u could read very well, u would see dat I removed d sentence I quoted from the post(reply to a response for price list of materials in ibadan) and in d post, there was something like 'watch out for a Nairaland supplier that may leave you hanging with a story at the last minute '. Which I want to believe it indirectly concerned me becos dis was exactly what happened btw us as I wasn't expecting such from him becos he even thanked me after d chats.

Also, I read from a post which stated he would watch the way he gives out recommendation on here due to what happened before. Dis isn't supposed supposed to supposed to be public if there weren't indirect negative comments at me.

Dis is exactly what transpired: I approached u to supply ur site which is a normal marketing skill after a while, we both agreed wit d terms and condition. I did d job and after a while u approached me for more supply in a bigger quantity like 6 times what I supplied before (laterite and granite) which to be frank I would definitely make so good money. And u even said even if my prices would be a bit higher Dan other vendors', u would still give me d job to do which which I appreciated and u even sent me recharge card money.

After, I indirectly refused d jobs. I told you I won't be chanced to do d jobs and dat he shld give it to someone else maybe his builder.


He den thanked me and also said He took my excuse as my right to refuse services which is very good in business practice but I shld know dat I wasn't dealing wit his builder but I was dealing wit him so I shld ignore his builder. Dat was all.

And all dis happened till 6th of October. I didn't av to apologise publicly if not for some indirect negative comments toward me even when I wasn't at fault and I'm still a small boy trying to raise a reasonable customer base.



Reason why I refused to take the Job: on d first supply to d site, I read it on d eyes of d builder dat he was highly interested in d supply though he didn't tell me such and I saw he was very powerful spiritually so, I needed to keep my head becos dis kind of scenario just happened to me where a nairalander contacted me for materials, but d guy he was using before got my number somewhere and threatened me but I refused to listen to d guy. Could u believe dat I had a very fatal accident on my way back from d delivery of d materials dat I nearly lost my life but thank God for my mother's prayers dat I survived, my right hand hasn't healed up till now with open scars dat everybody sees. I don't rilly use my right hand as before but d doctors said it would heal up wit time and it's almost 3 months now. Some Nairalander engineers dat engaged me of recent saw my right hand.


Pls let's always av core information about things before passing judgement.

For apologising openly didn't mean I was putting up a cry or a sorry story but I had to becos I was reading some indirect comments at me to negate my business which I didn't deserve.


Come and take more money, no thanks, give it to another person shouldn't call for indirect negative comments.





@EgunMogaji sir: I hereby apologise for anything I may av caused u pls do forgive me... For the fact that we didn't work on dis doesn't mean dat I can never work for u again becos CUSTOMERS are always right. I'm sorry sir.


Thanks all.

Do you actually understand my comment.

Do you know what sob story actually means.

How did I take sides here.

lastpage:




when "two people" are having issues, l think if you cannot contribute POSITIVELY, the best thing to do is to "stay out of it"....
...... not make snide remarks that show you are "blindly" taking sides.

Your comment above is completely unnecessary and reckless.

For @brag3 to have just quoted this post of his supplier, right in the middle of the current discussion, means there is 'more to it' than that quote (and reading the quote itself reveals a prior issue).
l personally dont know what went on between the two except for what @brag posted up there. So, l wont jump at it nor expect anyone to ...

Next time, l think it is proper to first ask questions and understand what is going on/what really occurred ...before pitching your tent.
You did not contribute anything to the "core issue" ..........but rather just made that your "impressionistic" comment!

"3rd party" Opinions on matters of grouse between two people, no matter the "overriding implicit interest", MUST be informed



Lastpage!

Edited: Mind you, l am not taking brief for either of the two parties simply because l dont have all the relevant information of what transpired.
Maybe with the passage of time, l will "be informed" of what happened but my comments should not be misinterpreted as condoning/defending or antagonising either party.

Why the sob story?

smiley001:




Hi sir, I tried to message u on whatsapp after u requested for another 60tons of granite to ur site but I noticed u av blocked me.
But why sir?
Sir, u need to understand me... things don't work in nigeria d way Diasporans view it.
I know I disappointed u by not taking d order from u.
I just av to be very careful with my head becos d way ur builder talked to me from dat first supply showed he was highly interested and he looked very powerful and spiritual to me and dat was why I advised dat u should let him do the 60tons supply of granite but u just didn't understand me.
Nothing rilly personal.

I'm sorry if I may av disappointed or offended u in any way sir.

Cheers.