That should save you the trouble to squeeze through that passage and experience the inexperience of hers. Now go marry that lady and enjoy yourself with her. Sometimes the table turns and its ok. Men do that all the time at their bachelors' party.

kokoye:

It is a big deal only for the people who choose to make it one.

And the number reason people do this is TRADITION - that's how it's been . . so some feel the trend should continue.

So it aint all for selfish reasons.

For me, it is not a big deal (happiness and peace in my household are more important to me). But that is just me - I cant force my opinion on other people.

This would be more like it for me, if I ever plan to be the Mrs of anyone.

If males could only be normal they would understand women. Most men are fvcking stu pid.

Thats all I have to say.

Moralistli:

My simple ques is '' is it really possible for one girl to steal me 4rm d one i really luv? Impossican'tttt!

I think d guy in question never had any gud plan for u in d first place, Meanwhile, 4givess is d sweetest revenge.  

Lessons and experience 4rm such incident will certainly  giv u d enablement to establish and sustain meaningful rlatnship in d nearest future if u 're ready to learn or make use d lessons.

Bull fvcking shyt! You never know what a man has instore. You could be having the best relationship as you may think and out of no where in a split second he hops out with your best friend, your sister or a total stranger. He's had enough of you and immediately hops out.

Disgusted!

He could be a raypist. Something evil could be going through that male brain of his.

Dear Diva

Let those sorry azzes be, they truly deserve each other. Hold your head up high, when ever you see them, dont let them
take away your joy. The first man I loved slept with my sister and they both had a baby and that child lives with my mother.
I could tell you too much what men have done me and what I see men do other women but I will spear
you as you have your own troubles now to handle.

Dont do them anything especially if its going to get you in trouble with the law. Just be the best person you can.
Let them see you and wish you well.

Because you still love him.

That male person is a stingy rat. Dont marry him. If he doesnt know how to simply give the woman he is with simple gifts or even when you make hints then you wont get things that would be necessary from him either. since 2006 and partially nothing!? please let that stingy nigga be.

@ the age of 19 Carolece met and fell inlove with an educated young man she met in Pre University after High School. Years of togetherness, being happy and wanted to have a life together with him forever. We shacked together for 2 years. During that time, we were'nt stable at his house, we went from his to mine (my mom's at the time) while we tried to get our studies together. He became part of my family. He was a brother to my sisters and a son to my mother, he wasnt treated as an inlaw. He was just loved by everyone.

Only to find out that he perhaps was loved in another way by one of my sisters. They had a child together. I hate him, hate my sister, and find it difficult to have a good relationship with my nephew.

Throw rice?
Free?

Thats very ironic and funny.

beejaei:

Enough with the pretense. silly people come here on NL to give holy-holy advice when they have not walked in the OP's shoes. I have. My father was almost exactly like her father. Till today I am torn between wishing my mother had quit and had a happy life of her own or stayed, as she did, to ensure her children's future. So if you have not been in this situation, kindly shut the mess up and stick your mouth in your behind. You do not know what it feels like to see the mother you love almost literally sacrifice her life and take a lot of bullshi.t from an irresponsible father just to make sure her children's futures are guaranteed. Nonsense.

Its obvious we need more real people in this world. Most of them live on false pretence that is why some of them cant see through anyone else's eyes. They come and make silly remarks when they have no clue as to what is happening in their own lives. They lie like the devil, pretending their lives is all sweet and dandy. Just because they are my parents doesnt mean I should lie about what is happening. Most of these people who make these silly remarks should go and see in their own lives. They are Dumb foks!

Thank you.

I know alot of people who dont even as much as speak to their parents. They leave and leave every damn thing behind, not even a phone call they honor their parents with.

I bet. The great inheritance uh!

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minor flaw?

Do you know the men around me?
All of them have some attributes that he had, reminding me some way or the other of him, and that includes you and the rest of A holes here on Niraland

I have already forgiven him, but I still remember the heartaches that he caused. Plus as I've already said, all the men around me is just a replica of him.

I saw a documentary on tv sometime ago where women are getting married to their boyfriends in prison, some of whom are on death row. I find that rather strange, wasting time and love per se, on someone who wont ever be there physically and most times emotionally.

Would you say people have all rights to do what their hearts lead them to do, or would you class that as being down right st upid?

^^
But he didnt. He was the worse parent, and died being such.

My mother is ok with us telling her the truth. Even she too speak on some things she shouldnt have put up with.

Because he was my father? People are people, despite they are our parents, they do have bad attributes too. I wont talk such of other people and praise my parents who are doing the same sh it. I respect my parents. I'd never curse them out, but that didnt stop me from telling them what I really felt about them in a respectful way. They say the truth always hurt, and it sure does. I held back some of the things I really wanted to tell my father because anger would probably cause me to disrespect him, but I sure did tell my mother how I felt about her choice.

So are you saying because its our parents we shouldnt make honest comments? I dont and wont have kids, there is no man good enough to father any children of mine.

what you are saying still doesnt answer my question. Forgivness is the key here, not to forget. I will never forget what anyone has done to me. Never! The Bible didnt say we should. End of story.

accept the invitation from carolece on yahoo, we really have to talk.

Kind of spinning from the Why & Why thread. Sometimes I am just mad at my mother for making that man who was my biological father her husband. I mean, things she told us (my sisters and I), I would definately not stay with that b astard. The bad treatment, the disrespect, the almost non-existence in our family. Its just appauling that some of our parents stayed in their relationships because they had a child or two before some really find out what their partner is really like. This goes both ways, because I know this man, he got a wife who is like the devil's sister, he tries to make her happy but she is just not letting up being a bich.

Do you think either of your parents could/should have made a better choice?

^^
not necessarily.

For an aged letter, it seems very well kept. I wonder!

do you live in a hole that you cant get out of?

^^
Then I am afraid to say, you are birds of a feather. Both nasty people.

Where in the Bible did it say we should forgive and forget? It does say, God himself [/b]forgive[/b] us of our sins and He forgets.

Check Isaiah 43:25
Hebrews 10:17

You didnt say if you were living together or not. If you are, then you are no better than her living with that filth. It is known worldwide, that some people who are "prim and proper" on the outside is nasty as ever, you can judge some of them by their cars.

I have forgiven him already, but that wont stop me from hating what he did and other men around me.

Christian religion.

^^
I have nothing to discuss

Osama10:

They hate their own idea all of a sudden now.

Which reminds me of a saying that one thief hates to see another thief with a bigger bag stacked with stolen goods.

My dad was a regular man. Had kids here and there. Didnt pay much attention to us, when he did it was either beating the hell out of us or cursing about some thing or the other. He drank himself to death, thankfully he was a drunkard, he probably would be still alive. I really hated him, he was no different to the men I see everywhere around me, no matter where on this planet I am.

It is said and have proven that, when you include sex (relationships) in a friendship it changes the whole friendship thing, and it will never get back to what it was. No one can tell you what to do or where your heart is leaning to most. Think it out carefully and make your decision.