rabex123:
NAwa oh..
Ig-bo clowns will storm here to say they are creative now.. Wait
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Well, igbos associate the High God with the Sun, that's for sure. He is sometimes called. Anyanwu na Agbala (ie the Sun and the Source of all fertilty). That could be what he meant by 'live in the sun).

The High God has no priests to make sacrifices to it. Only a few igbo communities are known for making sacrifices to The High God. So once could say 'God neither eats no drink'.

Its the part about tying a belt and smoking a pipe that is puzzling. And even funny! All I can say is Olauda was too young to understand the cosmology of his people. He probably added some 'fireside stories' to the description of his people's ritual system.

No contradiction there, pal. Igbos of the 18th century living in Igboland did not self-identify as Igbo. The igbo identity grew in diaspora where slaves from various parts of Igboland met and recognized their commonalities and subsumed it under one label 'Igbo' or 'Eboe' (By the way, though the igbos didn't call themselves Igbo, their neighbours DID call them that). A man who has accepted that label (Eboe) would look back and say he was born in 'Igboland" (what he called the province of Eboe). In Sierra Leone (19th century), Koelle and Schon studied igbo language with Igbo ex-slaves. Most of these slaves self-identified as Igbos, but some admitted they never heard that word used in their homeland.

Equiano telling us they called some strange men from faraway 'Oye-Eboe (Onye Igbo) fits with what I know to be the precolonial usage of the word 'Igbo' within Igboland.

If you say he constructed his biography from stories he heard from Edos and Igbos, you should be able to at least show Edoisms in his work. You keep mentioning the marks on his forehead; and I find it surprising you didn't know that Northern and Western Igbos made such marks on their head until some 60 - 70 years ago. I once saw the marks of an old man in Nimo, Anambra State. Google ichi marks, mehn.

Are u also saying Edo women fought battles? Queen Idia took to the field in person? I thought it was a slave (male slave) of the queen who fought on her mistress's behalf.

A boy who left his society when he was eleven would grow to forget a lot of things. No one said his memory would be completely wiped off. I really don't see how I contradicted myself there.

You have obviously decided to accept he wasn't born Igbo. Cool. Scholars disagree. But note, he started calling himself Eboe long before he wrote his story. There are letters that show he did. So one can't claim he assumed igboness just to tell a story.

There's a ring of consistency in that work that gives it an air of authenticity. I won't go into that. I feel it will be time wasting. But if his story was based solely on bits and pieces he picked up in the new world, I would expect the book to be much more jumbled than it is. I maintain there's an INNER CONSISTENCY in that work that I just can't dismiss.

Vincent has done a good work showing us that OLauda once said he was born in Carolina (there are good reasons why a slave would claim American birth). As a free man he claimed igbo birth (Why would he do that? Igbos weren't the most liked Africans in the New World. Why didn't he claim Mande or Akan or Kongo). Why are some scholars more inclined to accept the Carolina story and disregard the Igbo story?

bigfrancis21:


Ahfoe wayca is actually 'afor nwa ika', for ancient 'yearly men' who were noted for their short height. That's what Olaudah meant by 'ah foe waycah'.

'oye-eboe' he meant 'oyibo'. Among igbos today, 'oyibo' is pronounced like 'oyiibo', the middle 'i' is extended. My guess is Olaudah spelt it as exactly as it was pronounced. He also gave the meaning as 'red-skinned...' thus referring to the 'oyibo' as we know it today. further more, 'onye igbo' when used by certain clans to describe others isn't often due to 'skin color', but rather as a matter of ancestry.

Some scholars believe 'Essaka' is actually 'Isseke', a town in Anambra state. And there are some details which support that he came from that general area (ie central Igboland, not too far north, not too far south.

As for whether Olaudah's Eboe is actually today's Igbo, I think Olauda himself left enough linguistic information for us to assert that it is one and the same people.

Olaudah said his people called year Aa-affoe. Igbos today still call year 'Afo'.

Olaudah said his name means'...loud voice...'. 'Loud voice in today's Igbo is 'Oluuda'.

Olaudah said the men who were in charge of the calendar in his village were called 'Aa-ffoe way-cah' or 'yearly men'. Aaffoe waycah is clearly 'Afo nwoke'. That's not d way a modern Igbo would say it, but the words are clearly Igbo.

Olaudah said the strangers who came to trade in their village were called 'Oye-Eboe' and means 'red men trading at a distance'. Before the 20th century, an Igbo-speaking stranger was derogatively called 'onye Igbo' by his host Igbo-speaking community. (That was before 'Igbo' came to be accepted as a generic name for all who speak related Igbo dialects).

My point is, there's no doubt that Olaudah's Eboe are ethnologically and geographically the same as the modern Igbo people.

ifyalways:
What is the relationship between Eboe [/b]and [b]Igbo 

. . . and Oh he said his people believed god lived in the sun and smoked pipe,have we Igbos at any time shared same sentiments?

seunmsg:
Buhari should please give FFK a job quickly. Idleness is really aggravating his mental condition. We should help FFK before he completely runs mad unclad in the market square.

PlayerMeji:


I m sorry I dont attend to every sarcasm I feel.

The earlier we stop these hate games against ourselves the better.

The divide and rule has to stop. Lets channel our energy on how to work together.

Seriously, the hypocrisy is so appalling, Yorubas and Igbos are best of friends offline but online, I come to realize the hate which is so underneath the smiles we share together.

I am an advocate for YORUGBO and I have stayed too long alive to know that we are better together.

So to answer you, ChrisEsq, I am Yoruba and Proud!

PlayerMeji:
When will people come to reason with me?

That the true enemy is not the Yoruba man beside you or the Igbo man selling his kaya but these horrible sets of people who have made ruling Nigeria their birthrights.

They are the enemies, they are the ones who do not like it that we prosper together. Imagine if the North had oil what do you think they would have done to the country Nigeria? Even without oil, they want to rule at all time. For the sake of their cows, they are willing to cause trouble in any part of the country.

Yoruba and Igbo should stop this unnecessary bickering. We are the best things to happen to this country, Nigeria.

ianSweet:


Ok i guess we should all go back to human sacrifice and killing of twins since we really want to retain our cultures and make sure u drop everything that belongs to the white man away from your lives including the gadget u are using to type.
U guys should be realistic for once.
Many European societies used to be barbarians in the past, but they began to progress once they dropped their regressive cultures. They only retained the progressive elements of their cultures and that is what we are supposed to do too.

Show me any advanced and progressive country in the world that holds on to diabloical customs and ritual festivals as part of their nationality!
Most progressive countries apart from those in the Arabian gulf are rapidly dropping culture and religion as a whole.

ianSweet:


Are u saying that we should all go back to idolatory, animal sacrifice and all manners of stone age cultures of ignorance just because we want to retain our culture?

Even the Europeans reformed their cultures, the cultures they practices centuries and millenia ago is no longer what they practice today.

There are aspects of our culture we are to retain like our native languages, cultural attires, traditional cuisines but not diabolical and demonic festivals and rituals!!

henrydadon:


am not a christian for your information..am a proud atheist

go suck a dick..stupid fool..stupid people like you cant do anything without involving religion

have you ever sat down to think why nigeria is still the way it is

henrydadon:


africa will forever remain backward

while the rest of the world keep moving forward

it just so sad

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TINALETC3:
So pple stl do dis , Speechless

Kgdavid:


Are judges immune from arrest? Esquire indeed!