Education / Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Donmobi(m): 10:57pm On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:
Shamelessness makes you think you can hide under an Igbo clans skirt to throw dust at the same Ndigbo.
Pathetic people. Look at what Dahomey has to say about your ancestors after their teenage girls massacred, raped all Oyo soldiers and took the remaining as slaves.
Should I call you "Nago" or "Yoruba" Both slave names This Dahomeans not only raided our Nago brethrens. They had a field day doing it and momentarily did it for fun, its no wonder Abeokuta became a refuge land for our brethrens. it was quite inhuman to say the least 5 Likes 1 Share |
Education / Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Donmobi(m): 10:52pm On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:
NDIGBO and our cousins from the Eastern region are the only people that resisted slavery even to the extent of taking over slave ships, leading revolts and even taking over slave countries from the whites eg Haiti. The first king of Haiti that led the slave revolt that finally established the independence of Haiti Henri Christopher is of Igbo descent. That is why Igbo slaves were costly. They were very difficult to get and subdue.
But the Yorubas on the other hand are very docile, put up no resistance at all and are willing slaves, so their price went so low that slave traders have to clarify what they have to avoid someone suing them for fraud. Yoruba Slaves were literally worthless, so they have to be sold in tens.
Here is the portrait of the first king of Haiti, an Igbo blood to the core that led the slave revolt that established the independence of Haiti. Henri Christophe Not only was he a Haitian legend, his descendants like Pierre Nord Alexis(once Haitian president just like his ancestor) and Michèlè Benette(once Haitian first lady) were also legends and greats in Haiti till date.
Have we also forgotten Bussa, the Igbo slave who led the revolt in Barbados. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Education / Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Donmobi(m): 10:46pm On Feb 11, 2022 |
aribisala0: Yes Eboes made better slaves. You are right This on its own though stereotypical is a fair claim.
The igbos were heavily known to follow very strict rules in farming and tending plantations they outwardly opossed their slave masters in matters concerning this and to the surprise of their slave masters who let them, they yielded positive outcomes in harvest Nevertheless the igbos were very famous for carrying out revolts and rebellion against their owners, their massive rebellion played a huge roll in the abolition of slave trade as we all know today 1 Like |
Music/Radio / Re: RENO - Why Does Music Of Yoruba Origin Breakthrough Globally ? by Donmobi(m): 11:49am On Jan 14, 2022 |
walefresh3:
And so, kanu won it 2 times 1996 and 1999... Perpetual nkwocha won the African woman award 4 times... Rashidi Yekini won golden boot in 1992 Won african footballer in 1993 Won another Golden boot 1994 African nation in Tunisia.... Highest goal scorer of all time out of top 5 Yorubas are 3... 1) Rashidi Yekini App : 62. Goal 37
2) Segun odegbami App : 41 Goals 26
3) yakubu aiyegbeni App : 87. Goals 21
4) i.k uche. APP : 46. GOALS 19
5) Obafemi Martins. App : 45. Goals. 18
Woman football.. Perpetual nkwocha won african best 4 times Oshoala won it too for 4 times and she is still playing
She is the current African best and the richest African female player lol. Dude be stylishly switching goal post into sports.. Okay then. Tell me who currently is the 7th best women's goalkeeper in the world?
How about a dive into our female basketball team, three times consecutive winner s of the women's afrobasket. Mind to bring a list? Even try the male team if you can.
This is why I advice folks to stick to what they are good at.It's not so difficult. |
Music/Radio / Re: RENO - Why Does Music Of Yoruba Origin Breakthrough Globally ? by Donmobi(m): 11:44pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
angelakey: Whatever makes you sleep this night ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Good night sir Good night ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) |
Music/Radio / Re: RENO - Why Does Music Of Yoruba Origin Breakthrough Globally ? by Donmobi(m): 11:21pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
musicwriter:
Indeed, you just said what the "original Christians" believed. The twisted version is actually the one you read today in your bible. That's the exact reason Bananas severed ties with Paul on their missionary journey. But your bible schools or church would never tell you that. He rejected Paul's teachings because he was one of the pioneer gnostics. just a simple one. You were given a bible, yet you refuse to believe it but choose to believe what a sect contradictorily says? |
Music/Radio / Re: RENO - Why Does Music Of Yoruba Origin Breakthrough Globally ? by Donmobi(m): 11:18pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
angelakey: Lion Heart was a flop, just like Chief Daddy 2, you have said nothing all through your write up. Face the reality, you know the big players in Nollywood now. Thank you BTW Lionheart is the type only Nigerian movie to be nominated for an Oscar Yorubas are considerably doing well too As I said before it has always been how it is now Nollywood is majorly an Igbo thing.
At least till Yorubas get good story writers coupled with actors/actressses
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Music/Radio / Re: RENO - Why Does Music Of Yoruba Origin Breakthrough Globally ? by Donmobi(m): 5:02pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
angelakey: You are living in the stone ages. Go online and check for highest grossing movies of all time in Nigeria, check the producers and directors and see who they are. Modern moving making don pass all those Asaba or Abakaliki film wey u dey reference. Check most Nollywood Cinema movies and movies Netflix, they are produced and directed by Yoruba actors. They are the one running the show now and they have always been from way back.
The name Nollywood before was coined for the English speaking movie industry, the Yorubas were also doing their own "wood" using their local dialect and promoting their culture, it was as popular as the English Nollywood except overseas due to obvious reason "Language"
All those Yorubawood actors and Yorubas in Nollywood are still the one running show today, Funke Akindele, Olu Jacob, Toyin Abraham, Odunlade, the Afolayans, Desmond Elliot, Kemi adetiba, Shola Shobowale, Ramsey etc. All of them have great movies in the cinema and Netflix. Their counterparts from the other side like Tonto, Oge okoye and co have turned Instagran influencers or people for Nollywood minor roles.
These are al the facts. We have moved past Asaba nollywood days or Alaba International pirate days. Now it's common knowledge that Yoruba's ventured into nollywood before the igbos, but ever since the Igbo's have taken over and the rest is history... There has been no much of a change in how it's been run then and in transition to now... Yoruba's have good control of the media( so no surprises what you see online, that's how it has always been.insisted Imagine I saw a blog listing the best Nollywood producers and Genevieve Nnaji wasn't among! ( funny) Nevertheless Igbo's have always dominated nollywood not coincidentally, but more precisely their ability to tell their own stories/write them so very well to attract a massive pack of viewers (Unarguably Igbo's have the best literature writers in Africa) So there is no scare in Yorubas coming close to the Igbo's in this section until they learn how to write their own engrossing stories.(we all know the massive failure of media overhyped Chief daddy 2, niyi deployed a lot of Igbo actors to make most of a movie with a terrible storyline) Just as Achebe said. " Till lions learn to write their own stories, the tales of the hunt would always glorify the hunter." In addition to very talented actors/actresses, this has even furthered their growth in this industry. Yorubas control the media but even in certain aspects talent would surely stand out Of the list of of engrossing movies, the biggest ever from Africa was Lionheart by Genevieve. It was submitted for an Oscars!!!
Avoid this topic because there is no way you will win it
Better you stick with the thread's topic.
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Music/Radio / Re: RENO - Why Does Music Of Yoruba Origin Breakthrough Globally ? by Donmobi(m): 4:14pm On Jan 13, 2022 |
musicwriter:
As long as you identify as a Christian, you're still believing in the Christianity created by Rome because whatever you believe is what Rome gave you
The bible was created by Rome. It passed through the Septuagint, Codex vaticanus, king James version, etc. There are probably more than 20 types of bibles before it was even writen in English. In that process the original message was lost.
Rome created Easter- a festivity originally meant to celebrate the pagan goddess named Estha. So Easter came from the goddess Estha. This is not what the "original Christianity" believed.
Jesus was labeled as equal to God by Rome in 325 AD. This is not what the "original Christianity" believed.
Rome created Christmas, a day usually used to celebrate a tree goddess called Yul. That's where you get Yuletide. This is not what the "original Christianity" believed.
Rome created Sunday as day of worship for Christianity. SUN day or the day of the SUN was a day usually used to worship the pagan Roman god called Mithras. This is not what the "original Christianity" believed.
So, you have no basis to talk about "true Christianity". What you have is Roman/European Christianity. In fact, if you're not a member of Roman Catholic church, you don't even quality as a Christian. Because Catholics is the oldest surviving christian sect even though it's not the "original Christianity" but it's at least closer to the truth.
The Ethiopians still read the King James version of the bible, which was originally dedicated to the Celtic pagan god named Issus, Esus, Hesus. So there's no original Christianity in Ethiopia, though their culture would, of course, create a different hue of Christianity over there.
But don't get me wrong. Yes, there used to be an "original Christianity" but it lasted just about few a years before Paul came in and began preaching his own version of Christianity, which of course Rome preserved because it served their selfish interest.
IMPORTANT: The early christians did not believe that Jesus literally died and resurrected nor was he son of God. They were called the Gnostics and they believed in a magico-mystical Christ, whom you're supposed to perceive as your spiritual companion only. Not a person. This was in line with what all other ancient cultures believed about many other messiahs, many of them known for thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus. But these "original Christianity" was completely destroyed by Rome. Josephus said they were rounded up and destroyed completely and not one stone was left standing. Then, Rome took their holy book and re-wrote it to create a different type of Jesus in order to rule their colony under one religion. This Jesus would be a literal person. Why you may ask? The answer is so they may say someone (Peter) saw him and from there, they'll claim affinity to Peter and control the religion. That's why saint Peter's basilica is in Rome instead of Palestine/Israel.
I have already done that research. The reason is that the Yoruba language is one of the most tonal language in the world. In fact, I found that Yoruba language, languages in Congo, Igbo language are the most tonal languages in the world. If someone from Yoruba land is speaking, he/she is singing, though it may not be obvious to us because it's our normal. Think of the way Snoop Dogg talks. Snoop Dogg can basically record his speech as a song and it'll be good. That's how tonal languages are and Yoruba language is one of the best in that regard. That's why you see all the signages all over a well written Yoruba word.
Note: All African languages are tonal but some (Yoruba, Igbo, Lingala) are more tonal than others. So, yes, Yorubas are natural musicians.
Professor Theophile Obenga once said "if you're an African, you don't need to learn to be a musician. All you have to do is start singing." He's very correct!! Okay, a quick one
Gnosticism was infact a regional cult group that early Christians pioneers dreaded with caution.....you could read the book of John(not the gospel one)the apostle was deeply concerned with the ever so growing spread of their teachings...and here is a reason
Gnostics were now a growing cult of mysticism which adapted christian ideas and built on it appeasing theological aspects.. Their teachings were so attractive even though they only twisted Christianity to favour their cause...they had several contrasting beliefs like....
Denied Christ was God, saying the human body was intrinsically evil and God could not take form in it
Others said Christ was merely a phantom, a temporary appearance of God who looked human.
Others believe the soul was basically pure and couldn't be affected by mere human sins...this lead to cataclysmic hedonism from this group
Matter of fact Gnostics had different opinions on Christianity and from the stated above they were quite the confused pair..
You mentioned Paul as a controversial Christian apostle.. This basically is wrong as even Peter acknowledged the teachings of Paul in his own book(read the book of Peter)
Lastly you said gnostics were completely extinguished But from your write up this only proves you are one of them ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:04pm On Jan 11, 2022 |
Detuner:
Arab Murals Indeed ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
FYI, Ancient cities in the Sahel North and in other parts of Southern Nigeria (Oyo, benin etc) are still there for everyone to see. The only ethnic group with something to proof is yours, cos they have nothing of such, Beside being sold as slaves by all other tribes, its still debatable whether Igbo had a civilization when the white man found you. See early nineties photo of Igbo warriors, looking like hunters and gatherers
Bravo! I guess those Igbo warriors consisted of a more adolescent bunch. Brave!! Back to you Friend, []wow! Just look at those colours on those your warriors, amazing and enlightening, I've really learnt something today, perhaps you should maybe...... Create a thread on this []One question though, why are there so much bright colours on their warrior dressings?, don't you think it would play them a big disadvantages in warfare especially in areas were blending and camouflage are crucial? Don't you think bright colours make them easy targets? |
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 5:31pm On Jan 11, 2022 |
Goal Iheanachoassist Aribo |
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 12:40pm On Jan 11, 2022 |
![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) TheSuperNerd:
Ah ah... no be you wey see 3-1 in our favor? So Aribo no score any of our 3 goals for your vision? Am a Prophet I see future events.. ..not what's going to happen today!.. ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) But if Aribo score I go get joy.. |
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 12:12pm On Jan 11, 2022 |
gustav25: Salah , Oh Salah!!! Mohamed Salah, a gift from Allah.
He came from Roma to Liverpool.
He’s always scoring, it’s certain he will roast some super Chickens today.
So please, Open your wings and Allow Salah to have a field day.
Oh Salah , the ray of hope of all Pharaohs, bring a huge gnashing of teeth upon Nigerians today. Oh Ndidi Child of Wilfred! You were created to dismantle Pharaohs and Nero's Out of Leicester, came a lion and a bear feaster! Take down threats in alignment to Allah! And neutralize that prince... The one they call Salah! 20 Likes 1 Share |
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 12:07pm On Jan 11, 2022 |
Tinneh: ARIBO to score today, you heard it here first if e no score nko What are you going to drop |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 12:05pm On Jan 11, 2022 |
TAO11: poorly comprehended?? I’m rolling on the floor. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Why do you think I am to blame for your 1 kilobyte brain that comprehends nothing
![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Please! You are not the first of your kind that throws tantrums to hide their brutally severed ego, Now I dare you to back up your claims and prove to me why you were absolutely smart to make that comparison..Prove it or continue down your deluded path. |
Sports / Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Donmobi(m): 10:43am On Jan 11, 2022 |
I can hear the roar of the Nigerian fans out there in Cameroon I see Nigeria defeating the Pharaohs by three goals to one....
This I have seen. Strugglingman: seer !!
Lol you doubt my prophesying prowress?, I dare you to place your money on it!!
Never doubt the god's eyes 3 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 10:32am On Jan 11, 2022 |
TAO11: Who is this dullard? ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
No you’re not that dull. You’re only pretending like you are, so I can soften the punishment. Or are you? —————
Your “best” igbo structure (captured by photo in 1973) was of course constructed before 1973, duh. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
And our “best” Yoruba structure (captured by photo in 1948-9) was of course constructed before 1948. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
You are only depressed that at an era when we were already flying, your people were still crawling.
Liars may photograph, but these photographs do not lie. Or do they? LMAO!
Get a grip. Sigh You brought out this poorly comprehended comparison and yet you still maintain your stance as being smart? Rather than basking in ignorance I would prefer you accept your wrongs and then we move on from there. Sheesh! |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 1:11am On Jan 11, 2022 |
TAO11:
You’re truly a dumb-baby.
So, we must pretend that the Yoruba structure below was constructed on the day of the photograph? ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
I should not have to dumb it down further for you. Or do I? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png)
Stop disgracing Ndi-Igbos online.
Cheers Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! So you knew your comparison was non factual and illogical, And yet you still went along with it?.....
Says a lot about how you reason! *Smh once more* |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:58pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
Detuner:
Stop deceiving people. Those are (temporary) made shift huts made by nomadic dwellers. You cant show what a real ancient city in the Sahel looks like, lest it hurts your ego. Do you really wanna compare Igbo cities/civilization with Ancient cities or civilization of the the Sahel?
Here are some: BTW the 3rd photo is a museum display of a full 16th century battle regalia of Empire of Bornu (Sahel) Cavalry Soldier. Do Igbo civilization has anything remarkable close to that
Perhaps you guys had aesthetic buildings then... But what I see here are Arab influenced murals Next time do bring something more indigenous to your people. We also would like to learn. |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:55pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
TAO11:
Dumb-Baby abi weytin de[m] dey call you?:
There is nothing special about your tears.
I tasted it, and it’s salty and bitter. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) *sighs disappointedly* At least you could have gone through what you posted, but nooo You had to raise your head high and contract your shoulders Now tell me my slow colleague, how does the date of when the pictures where snapped correlate to when the buildings where created? Smh. |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 9:07pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
TAO11: You all call for trouble with music and dances.
When it arrives, you all scream marginalization, etc. ———— Blame your depression on your brother who (without any provocation) brought the Yorùbá-name-calling into this “quintessential” thread. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
Cheers Go back and comprehend |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 8:08pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
ignorance ![lipsrsealed](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/lipsrsealed.png) TAO11: LMAO ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
Sadly (for you), the joke is unfortunately (for you) on you. ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) ————
1st attachment :—‘Best’ Igbo structure from the late-1900s (as proudly posted by one of your chanpions). • • • 2nd attachment: ‘Best’ Yoruba structure from the early-1900s (as proudly posted by me when one of your own ‘unjustifiably’ brought Yorùbá into the mix).
Now you know who isn’t developed at all. Wipe your tears quietly.
Cheers. |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 5:50pm On Jan 10, 2022 |
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Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:01am On Jan 10, 2022 |
aribisala0:
Arochukwoo is ruled by the Nnubi dynasty to this day.They are not Eboe ignorance 2 Likes |
Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 2:08pm On Jan 09, 2022 |
eduj:
It's Igbo not iboe ,unless you want your tribe to be called uroba instead of Yoruba ?
Women weren't treated like chattels in ancient Igbo custom . Yes women couldn't inherit there father's property because once married,they became a member of there husband's family. In ancient Igbo times , each married woman had a hut and a piece of land which was her's till death. We also had the council of umuadas (first daughters). They also had important roles to play in community decision making. In those days, a man who throws away the pot of his wife or her cooking tools had commited an abomination of such a propotion that he will make appeasement to the gods of the land.
Osus are people dedicated to the gods .They took care of deities and it's shrines, they ate offerings, sacrifices,money ,livestock's and even farmed large parcels of lands that came with the shrines. They where they only people who could do such. They also couldn't be killed by anyone no matter the offence they commit (actually that's how many people became osu's). A man who commits murder and is being sought-after for revenge can rush into a shrine, dedicate himself to the deity and he gains absolution from his crime.The OSU can take anything he wants from anyone in the name of the gods. The osu only became unpopular with the advent of Christianity.
Even at that,the biggest tribes of the Igbo ethnic group (the Ngwa) had nothing like OSU,many Igbo tribes had no practice like it .
So yes,infact the igbo's where egalitarian to the extent mortal societies can be.
And money played no role in ancient Igbo society. The wealth of an Igbo man was measured through the content of his yam barns, the hits of his wife's and the number of his children. interesting ![shocked](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/shocked.gif) 1 Like |
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Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 11:26am On Jan 09, 2022 |
aribisala0: Arochukwu was not an Ibo group it was an enclave of the Akamkpa overlords ruling over enslaved Ibos
They used the platform of Arochukwu to hunt and sell Ibos as slaves Till this day the rulers of Arochukwu are the Akamkpa/ibom dynasty troll 4 Likes |
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R.I.P ![cry](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cry.gif) :' |
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Politics / Re: How Igbos Lived In The Olden Days by Donmobi(m): 7:12pm On Jan 08, 2022 |
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