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Lumafon:

Dont know if i'm the only one that noticed this, but i thuink the general belief is that english home-videos and their actors are better than yoruba films or actors, well i think this is pure crap and utter balderdash! When you see actors like ola Sobowale, Jide Kosoko, Racheal Oniga, Funso Adeolu, Yomi Fash etc play alongside their english movie counterparts, they always give a good account of themselves. The funniest pat is that some of the yoruba actors even speak better english than the so-called english actors, don't you guys think so?

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@Lumafon,
These people you've mentioned are just as good in English home videos so its actually their ability to ACT, not what language they speak when they are acting.

The thing is Yoruba movies are a lot more natural because the artistes are speaking their language or at least a language that embodies their culture and so they don't have to struggle with the nuances that English language presents. I don't understand Yoruba but I watch a lot of Yoruba movies, because the delivery is a lot more believable and therefore more enjoyable. That's not to say that all Yoruba actors/actresses are good, it's just when you're completely in control of the language you're using, your flaws go unnoticed.

Like I mentioned before, someone like Sola Fosudo for instance, is brilliant in both genres. I don't think that any group is better than the other. I think that a good actor is a good actor, no matter what language; however if it's a language you understand and speak well, it is an added advantage.

_{that is my own opinion o!}

Cheers

Omogenaija,

thanks ever so much for that tip. do keep them coming. God bless

cheers

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LoverBwoy:

that guy they call GQ mochidi or something like that ,tall dude that was in guniess reality something saidi-saheed balogun

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@LoverBwoy'

I agree with you wholeheartedly; Chidi Muokeme aka GQ can play a Nicholas Cage type with the proper support from a capable director

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I met Lancelot at the African Vibes Magazine issue release party last weekend. I was told he's the biggest and the best in the Nollywood industry when it comes to directing Nigerian movies. What do you think?
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@queen2006,

Whoever told you that was not lying. Lancelot has directed some of the biggest Nollywood blockbusters which include

Men Do Cry

Issakaba 1-4

Games Women Play 1&2

Behind Closed Doors 1&2[/color], and

[color=#550000]Private Sin 1&2, to name a few.

You can visit his website at www.lancelotimasuen.com for more info

Cheers

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Logical:

I am sorry to say but I am really getting sick of your loop of questions and use of fallacious approaches to distract people. I am sure nobody wants to answer you, because when then go through the last two pages of this thread they would understand exactly my worries in regards to how you want to drive at achieving your motives.

Its as simple as it is, if you want to really have a honest conversation, open your mind, read through all I have said, and say something useful thats on track.

I am sure your response would be, "This is exactly what I expect, This is what they are", that I surely don't doubt. As I said I am sick of trying to clarify things with you. Any honest person reading through this thread would understand exactly what I said, Thank goodness I used English and most of us went to school.Sincerity is a pre-requisite to a healthy intellectual discussion, and I do encourage you use that as a tool not only in this forum, but everywhere you go.

For a start, It would interest people reading this thread, to know what your intentions are, and what you plan to achieve. Honestly I would like to know.

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Any honest person reading through this thread would understand exactly what I said, Thank goodness I used English and most of us went to school.Sincerity is a pre-requisite to a healthy intellectual discussion, and I do encourage you use that as a tool not only in this forum, but everywhere you go.

@Logical,

I would describe myself myself as an honest person[/color] and I also went to school[color=#990000][color=#000099][/color] but you have consistently refused to face other 'Landers like me and make things clear to us;rather, you have chosen to concentrate on Babyosisi and leave us out to continue to flounder.

I am neither of the opinion that MUslims are bad or good. People are both good and/or bad; that is stating the obvious but SIMPLE questions posted by the likes of me,have been buried under pages of facts that still leave us in a quandary. so Logical, should I expect to get to be addressed directly or do I have to go through your replies to Babyosisi before I can get my questions answered I would appreciate it if you do not like Neoteny, begin to ask me what my questions were and if I could rephrase them. Thanks

Cheers

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mo money:



u've said the little you're taught and i never wanted to, lol

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Actually mo money, that question was for soulpatrol, not for you, so I don't quite understand your answer

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mo money:

enugu it doesn't matter if one fail to learn from the family. the world is too advance for such talk, there are cinema, home theaters, videos etc. where people watch romantic movies, any body can learn from these sources.

again, in the ancient days you mean our forfathers moment of love maving goes just banging and nothing?

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Actually, mo money, it does matter! Whether we like it or not, we are images of our predecessors and it takes time for certain things to evolve. There was a time in Nigeria, when a woman was labelled a prostitute if you wore trousers (at least in the Eastern part) but with time that has changed

I'm not saying that we cannot learn from other sources, I'm just saying that WE ARE NOT USED TO IT, that's why it comes out looking very awkward. The world you're in maybe advanced for such talk but I can assure you, if you don't know where you're coming from, then how will you know how to get to wherever you want to go. If you know why you do certain things wrong, then it is easier for you to unlearn those habits and get them right.

And as to our forfathers moment of love maving (sic) NO! it wasn't all banging and nothing, they had their own methods of pre-intimacy, that turned them on just as ours do for us in this present times

and@ soulpatrol,
It sincerely didn't happen like that.

SO HAVE I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION? You never did get back to me on that

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Logical:


@babyosisi, I think he said an Islamic state? You might want to ask for the pre-requisites of an Islamic State for which that applies, if I tend to agree that your intentions are sincere. The whole construct of a sentence should be addressed, anytime one is made to send a message.

As I said in my before post it applies to the past, where the situations are different and hence as clearly stated by My friend here, that such an act is treason, and hence punishable by that law. But as of today we do not have an ideal Islamic state, Islamic soldiers and even direct enemies across such an Islamic border, An Islamic Nation, so I guess what he says stands?

That is applicable today even in the government structure, where if an act as a citizen of a naton, is a threat to the national security of any specific country, you could face a penalty, which sometimes could be punishable by death. Nevertheless do not get me wrong yet again, as I clearly stated before, An ideal Islamic state with such an adverse tension, doe not exist today in this era, hence such application wouldn't be proper.

Very true. Yet another very valid sentence that we tend to choose not to give feedback too, but when that applies to the so called Muslim subjects, and they tend to ignore such a visible point, you tend to think they are either weak or its their nature.
So are we really here to understand ourselves, and treat every point raised with fairness and justice or are we here to just bash the Muslim's with our hypocritical sentiments and hatred.

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@Logical,

Permit me to disagree with the highlighted. You seem to be focusing only on Babyosisi's comments and disregarding all others. What of the rest of us that inquired and commented? Have you acknowlegded?

So an ideal Islamic State does not exist? I didn't see Nazir state that so if not for your explanations, I too would have misunderstood him. Afterall, I remember schooling in the North and the fear of being made to 'dress Muslim' hanging over our heads. So while reading his post, what came to my mind was Nigeria and if that that situation of treason will apply there.

You have to understand that for so long, Islam has been kept shrouded in secrecy/mystery and now that it has a face, albeit through the act of terrorists, the face is a negative face. So now that a lot more people are interested in the religion (whether with good intentions or not) if they don't get CLEAR answers, or when their questions are met with hostility, they are more likely to assume the worst based on the more visible, negative aspects of Islam.

This forum gives some of us the opportunity to clarify what we have been wondering for so long. Can you imagine having lived on and off in the North of Nigeria for so long and yet cannot get simple and clear answers about Islam? The same would go for you if you lived in a predominantly Christian area and you were not a christian and yet none of the christians you ask would give you a clear explanation of their religion.

We rely on people like you to find the balance between both extremists; however it would also be a good thing if you acknowledge that there are others, apart from Babyosisi who have views on this thread.

_{Babyosisi, no offence intended}.

Cheers

@ enugu.   first of all, ewwwwwwww saliva dripping out of his mouth? and they had the audacity to show that in a movie? what bad taste! they should be sued for making us watch rubbish like that. and i really give it to indians with their no kissing policy. because of that, the teasing makes it even better than the real thing. small time the guy chases the girl, she plays hard to get, he tries to kiss her and she just smiles, moves her head away and breaks into a song   see, nothing gross about that. has worked for them for ages. so we can do the same or at least make the kissing decent for tv.

i didnt understand your last senetence though. what did you mean by "jigger"? and "imaginary spots"? [/color]


[color=#550000]@ soulpatrol,

I'm still laughing from your last post that's why I didn't reply your question immediately. Apologies. Now to your question - in the old days, when the man came home from the farm/fishing, or whatever he did out there; after his meal, his wife would sit at his feet and pick out ( or is it remove) with a sharp object, some leech-like insect that would crawl under the surface of the skin, between the toes or maybe it was just athlethe's foot  or maybe nothing  just a way to get jiggy or give the man the  sign and on the man's part, there would be that 'what's that on your face,  ? and he would as a show of affection, proceed to pick at the woman's face, as a prelude to other intimate things, 

Right, I know this might sound like part myth and part imagination, but the way they expressed affection was different and there was all that restraint in terms of showing affection; and because a lot of us didn't grow up seeing affection being expressed that openly, we find it difficult to replicate in our movies and when we try to copy it comes out all whack!!!

I hope this extra long post doesn't bore you; I also hope it gives you a picture of what 'traditional' love is/used to be

Cheers

trix:

finally!!! i'm so glad we finally got a meaningful discourse on this thread, rather than the mud-slinging that has been the norm.

@logical, thank you for answering questions directly (YES or NO, with explanations) as put to you, rather than returning with examples of why xtianity is no better than islam, as some have been doing. by doing so, u succeeded in changing the tone and bringing us back on track.

@ babyosisi, now UR own tone is much improved, u seem to be more interested in learning rather than inflaming others' sensibilities. this is not the way to win men unto Him, please be more careful at other times.

Logical, I've kept quiet all this while because the thread started taking the appearance of a contest between Islam and Christianity when the topic was Muslims: Are We Bad?

I am glad a muslim, and Logical, I'm assuming you're one, did all of us a favour by answering certain questions; afterall, it was a muslim that asked the question that started this thread, so it's only reasonable that a muslim should be in the best position to answer questions that non-muslims have about certain issues in Islam.

I join 'hands' with trix to express my respect for the way you've answered certain YES or NO questions with a Yes, and/or a No. I also respect Babyosisi for acknowledging your approach. This is what makes a forum; we agree to disagree, you give, take and like Jesus says in His Word:

As much as it lies with you, be at peace with all men.

asalam aleikum

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luvlymoi:

most of them are a$$ holes when u see them in the physical. they suck, well not all of them but most of them. sometimes i watch nigerian movies to laf. they should get better producers. i watched one movie called, "the wolves" one of the actors was like " we will bring them to their kneels" i was like what the heck, most of them don't knw how to talk. upon english is nigerias official language. this can be embarrasing sometimes u knw.

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D My sister abeg no kill me o I watched that film as well and i wanted to burst with laughter KNEELS indeed!!! It's like those stupid grammatical errors they make in a bid to sound foreign like when Ramsey Nouah says unekwovikly, without a doubt when what he should say is UNEQUIVOCALLY or WITHOUT A DOUBT and not both of them at the same time, pronounced in a pseudo-igbotic/ what-he-thinks-is-a-phonetic accent

omogenaija:

i don't get it. how can u tell which actors and actress r natural when they r all acting ?

please someone explain to me.

What it means that in portraying another character on screen they do it naturally, so that you are convinced that they are actually that character. For instance, have you watched a film and hated the person you were watching? If your answer is yes, then it means that the person potrayed that part so well. that they convinced you to hate them. Hope that clarifies things for you.

For me the most natural up and coming new actress, is MonaLisa Chinda (Girls In The Hood, Blind Obsession, Golden Moon, etc)[/color][color=#990000][/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color]

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premo:

i don't know why people say i can't watch a naija movie,if its not american its nothing as if they don't have american movies that are messed up.

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Abeg, tell them o!!!! Go and watch 'Chronicles of Riddick' and see how the lead actress's performance was as wooden as my computer table!!! They just use special effects and so on to cover up their flaws but even at that some american movies are just blah!

What women want (apart from mel gibson's performance, it was a washout!

@ Seun
[This is like saying that Spiderman 3, minus Spider Man, was boring.  What a ridiculous thing to say!
 


Your point of view, I take it? 

Would you have found it ridiculous if i had said that it was Olu Jacobs' presence/performance in 'Before the Sunset, that kept me watching for all of 15mins So what's so ridiculous about saying that the saving grace of 'What women want' was Mel Gibson

I take it you're an american film apologist 

@ IAH
1. They advertise by screaming and shouting; "Ori eja! Ori eja!! Ori eja!!! Suspense! Action!! Thrilling!!! Ori Eja! Now on [b]F[/b]ideo and [b]F[/b]iCD. Ori eja!!! Grap your copy NOWWWW!!!



D Abeg IAH no kill me o!!!! [b]F[/b]ideo and [b]F[/b]iCd!!! That's a good one. My stomach is hurting from so much laughter. What of those special effect sounds they make when advertising their films?  Indescribable

Where does one begin


1) Is it the 30mins previews of other films before the main film, or

2) the shouting during the previews, or

3) the village woman coming from the farm with well-manicured nails, or

4) the 'returnee' who's accent leaves you with a permanent headache, or

5)  the problems that are allowed to linger until in the end some half-baked 'pastor' comes in and 'prays' it all away, or

6) the unbelievable wigs and head-pieces which remind you of the proverbial 'ojuju-kalabar' (and to my fellow Cross Riverians/ Akwa-Ibomites, no offence intended) or,

7) the multi-colouredness of almost all the actresses (both English and Yoruba) and in some cases, actors, that leave you wondering if you have to be light-skinned to act. Most time those 'skin of many colours' tends to hurt the eye.

I could go on and on but suffice it to say   However, afterall said and done, I AM A NOLLYWOOD MOVIE ADDICT

@ K2DaC
but nollywood is classified as igbo people movie anyway no matter how u look at it


Bros, I'll agree with you there. I have a lot of Yoruba friends and they always refer to non-Yoruba nollywood films as 'Igbo films'. I think it has to do with the histrorical account of film-making in Nigeria and the fact that the majority of marketers, distributors and those behind the scenes on English-speaking films are non-Yoruba. My experience with Yorubas is that they classify everyone from Edo/Delta State and beyond as 'Igbo' anyway. So even films by the Amatas and the Ejiros who are from Delta are still classified as Igbo.

However. let the film industry grow; that's our prayer be it Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, Ijaw, Ibibio, Efik, Fulani, Igbani, Ikwerre, Urhobo, Itsekiri, Edo, Ika-Igbo, Igbanke, Isan, Kalabari Need I go on

umunna:

Eric Nwadinobi is a new name to the Nigeria film world, he have done many films like Annabel,the king of the junguel, The underworld,E.t.c. I love the way he act because he act for the BBC in London so as an Nigeria working for the BBC he must be good

@Umunna,

I've seen him act and he does not particularly stand out so I don't se why the question about him being the best in the Nigerian Film world. And about him acting for the BBC, Olu Jacobs has done Hollywood films, is a veteran and a  (pardon my language) damn good actor. So if there's any question about the best in the Nigerian Film World, it should be Olu Jacobs, Justus Esiri and their ilk, not Eric Nwadinobi

prncss:

I would beat the hell out of those nigerians who try to act with fake american accents it does not work for them because i live in da states and when i watch nigerian movies i hate it when i have to listen to that and ti is relly obvious that tey are just wannabes

My sista,

I agree whole heartedly with you. It's worse when they say things like 'bothy' instead of 'body' and 'cuth' instead of 'cut' all in a bid to sound foreign. They sound so daft!! That's why Nkem Owoh appeals to everyone because he doesn't try to fake anything.

So I would definitely slap any of those foreign accent- fakers

mekoyo:

I think tenneh is right u can't judge someone and yet praise yourself. who made u a top model?
All we humans have this feeling of hatred but at the end of the day it profits us nothing to hate someone. God created all of us and we have to live 2gether nd support them.
com on lets be nice 2 one another nd love everyone u c.
stay blessed.

i will also like 2 use this medium to invite friends because i'm out 2 make friends

see ya

@mekoyo,

I think you're missing the point here; its about what they do PROFESSIONALLY, i.e their acting NOT their person. I don't know Stephanie Okereke personally, but I don't like her fake accent when she's ACTING! For all I know, that might not be the way she talks normally but so long as she speaks like that when infront of the camera, IT IS ANNOYING.

That is what this thread is about; actors and actresses that annoy us, with THEIR ACTING. It's not about hating anyone or being nasty to anyone but expressing our feelings in the hope that their acting will improve.

It might not seem like it, but we ARE supporting them by telling them what it is we, their fans, find annoying so that they will look into their acting skills, and IMPROVE.

SO PLEASE, don't take it too personal, or too deeply . It's all in good faith.

So, on another level, what kind of qualities are u looking for in a friend

Polygamy usually leaves behind very ugly scars. I know a lot of friends who are from polygamous homes that swore NEVER to enter into polygamy. Perhaps if we were still in the era where it was the norm then maybe but as it is, there's more negative results than positive so why would anyone want to get themselves in it least of all women? No ! they don't find it acceptable and anyway, life is too short for all that stress

allenpower Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! I needed that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ayinla2005:

To start with,who is the author/originator of "the prophet of doom"?.

@babyosisi said she is on this forum as a missioner,what is her mission?to discredit islam and give it a bad name?like others?what do you call such a person in your christianity?

To all who care to listen,The author/originator of the so-called "prophet of doom" are christians,the bad ones like babyosisi-the missioner who tend to give islam a bad name,in the name of evangelising the world.Quran and hadith are been quote out of context,just to rubbish a particular image and a particular religion.The people on this forum seems to be here for the primary purpose of rubbishing islam and its legacy.If that is what you are thought in the bible/church,may God help you.God is in control.

@ayinla2005

With all due respect my fellow Nairaland user,  you're missing the point. People should be free to inquire, question, agree and disagree. If people feel the need to argue about an issue, why shouldn't they? They may not present their arguments in a way that everyone finds agreeable but that's their perogative.

Not everyone on this forum is commenting from a Christian point of view, so what have you got to say about that? What of the people who have - if i may borrow your words, rubbished Christianity? Or those who have asked questions about Islam and have not been answered?

I would ask that before you make such sweeping statements, check first.

Cheers

papermoon:

i feel you all on this topic.
my sister who i share a flat with is forever dissing my ass for watching as she calls it "those fake retards".all because i watch naija movies, but her personal grouse is the fact that this so called "americanas" cannot fake an accent to save their lives.i mean how riduculous is that?i beleive if you are giving me a naija movie with a so called americana in it, sure as hell get the real deal or cut out the trashy accent bits out of it.its like this directors feel that doing that is going to impress the viewers,,im like HELLOOO, not all your audience happen to be residents of villages in naija where anything that has MEN MEN in it will impress them, LOL, even the so called top of the range actors/tresses, CANNOT PUT ON AN ACCENT AMERICAN,BRITISH OR WHATEVER ELSE, they do naija accents well and they should stick to it, and i could name some culprits, RAMSAY NOUAH, i have no idea who lies to him that he has the patent on accents, brotherman LOSE THE ACCENT,

abeg, papermoon no kill me ooo!!! I know what you mean

Ramsey Nouah, Jim Iyke, Stephanie Okeke, Hank Anuku, Benedict Johnson, Ini Edo ( on a bad day) Chiege Alisigwe (in one film with Michael Ezuronye, I can't remember its name) and some others I can't quite remember at the moment.,

Guys you reduce our viewing pleasure greatly when you FAKE IT. PLEASE, PLEASE AND PLEASE, lose the accents, IT IS NOT WORKING AT AAAAALLLLL!!!!!

Orikinla:

There are so many of them even in Middle Belt of Nigeria and in South Eastern Nigeria.
I travel to the interior areas of our villages on locations for documentaries.
I am currently working on "Naked Beauty".

I was in one village in Akwa Ibom where the young maidens and young men even bathe topless together.

[color=#550000][/color]In that case, if we must potray nudity, then let's do it the AFRICAN WAY not trying and failing woefully to copy Hollywood. To start with, most of the Hollywood actresses/actors can afford personal trainers to keep them 'well-buffed'. So when they're showing 'skin', there are no bulges, spare tyres or love handles.

Haven't you noticed in the 'historical' Nollywood films, where they tie a piece of cloth around the chest, with the waist beads, a short wrapper and all the traditional make-up, they still look good and sexy without looking tacky.

So, yes nudity is part of our culture; however let's do it our way and not copy-copy!!!

my fellow 'landers, don't even BOTHER watching 'Before the Sunrise' starring Dakore Egbuson, Fred Amata, Zack Orji etc.

It was shot in Cameroon and also featured some Cameroonian actors and actresses. My brethren, I am a Nigerian film

addict and I can watch almost repeat, almost any Nollywood film but this one with its lovely packaging et al, it turned out

to be and finally . All Dakore was doing was speaking supree, supree (in other

words, 'polished English) but the acting was ZERO. i don't even know where the film was going even though it started

with promise. Even the likes of veteran Olu Jacobs couldn't convince me to watch it to the end. So fellow Nairalanders, if

you see this film, RUN!!!

What makes certain films worse than others is where you have the good actors and actresses and the film turns out to

be a big NO NO. Or the film starts out well, then half way thru, you still trying to figure out where the

'beep' they are going. Will there even be time to name names? I doubt it. Will keep you posted

@enugu
you can disagree all you want and i'll say it is your prerogative, but im not obliged to answer your questions because it has no profit for me; it will not dilute your extreme views of us, so to dissemble is to waste my time. seek your answers wherever you deem fit and keep those views that best serve your purpose.[/tr]


Neoteny, again you've refused to answer my questions which were asked politely and out of polite curiousity and an objective view because according to you, 'it has no profit for you'. The questions asked were not about YOU rather about your religion, Islam. You also go on to say 'it will not dilute my extreme views of you'. Pray tell, where on any of my questions or replies have I expressed an extreme view. So if I or someone I knew wanted to become a muslim, is this how you would approach my/that person's interest? By telling them that they have extreme views and therefore they should be left to their own devices? Isn't it your duty as a muslim, to educate people who show interest in your religion; regardless of what you PERCEIVE their motives might be?

You asked me to seek my answers 'wherever I deem fit' and I am seeking them through you but,  you then go ahead to say I should 'keep those views that best serve my purpose' What views and what purpose A simple enquiry and you wouldn't reply to it

You are, of course, not under any compulsion to answer any of my questions; however it would have been nice and polite for you to have done so.

Seeing that you have chosen not to, I would leave off trying to get answers from you, regardless of the fact that you seem to have what it takes to answer them objectively. You may, of course, take this the wrong way AGAIN; that is your perogative, however I will leave you with a thanks and may HE THAT WAS, AND IS, AND IS TO COME; THE EL-SHADDAI, THE IMMORTAL, INVISIBLE AND ONLY WISE GOD, cause His face to shine upon you.

asalam aleikum

soulpatrol:

not just the kissing alone, the cameramen need to get their angling right. don't they teach them how to get good angles and stuff like that? c'mon now, learn from hollywood. its always appaling to look at two naija actors kissing in a movie. no co-ordination, no on-screen chemistry, the woman always looks shy or like she's being forced, the guys lips are all over the place, God help us if he has humongous lips and he doesnt know what to do with it. haba!

@ soulpatrol,

I know what you mean!!! I once saw this kissing scene and saliva was dripping out of the guys mouth!!! it was

hilarious and disgusting at the same time. I think we should emulate Bollywood in that area; they don't actually kiss but

their love scenes still appear sensuous. Nolllywood should find use for our traditional methods of showing love like

picking the 'jigger' out of the man's feet or something like that lol!!! Or picking off the real/imaginary spots off

woman's face

nferyn:

Although you are 100% correct about the underlying motivations, this portrayal is not as innocent as it seems. The continued use of stereotypes in movies gives the more gullible part of the audience (the majority) the impression that these portrayals are accurate, especially when a group external to their immediate life circle is portrayed, because they cannot see the nuance in the lives of these strangers.

This image perpetuates commonly held stereotypes and reinforces certain racist attitudes. Attitudes that they are usually not even aware of. This has a profound effect on how Africans are treated and regarded in the diaspora

And using distortion to fight distortion is not really the answer either. The fake image of Europe in many African minds is doing already enough damage

Nne nwannem(i.e, my dear sister),

I feel your anger and even when they use an 'African' in their movies, it's always one with some fake, generic African

accent. As for potraying Africa in a positive light, YEAH RIGHT!!! How else would they sell the continued stereotype of

'give £2 a month' do you want their charities to be out of business?!!. The African has a lot to offer, we just haven't

come together to make it happen and Hollywood will not help our cause because it will not profit them to do so. so yes

my sister, they perpetuate the stereotype to make sure the African subconsciously sees himself as inferior and therefore

doesn't bother to try too hard. Look at Ancient Egypt: the day we present-day Africans rise up, OG'ADI EGWU! (It will be, for want of a better word, GREAT)

For this reason, the oyibo man will not let this happen; he will use every means to keep us thinking 'native' so that the

status quo remains as it is.

@neoteny

muslims are pricky about islam because to us it is more than a religion; it is a way of life and for something we hold above our lives it makes some sense if we get touchy when people commit sacrileges against us, doesnt it? mind you, i will feel similar inflammation of passion should jesus or any of the prophets of the holy Bible be insulted.


So tell me, Neoteny, if someone wants to convert to Islam, isn't it only sensible that they inquire about what they

are getting themselves into? How then can you encourage someone who's interested in your religion by getting all prickly about it?

Issues of faith need to be questioned or else people will walk blindly into something that might turn out to be a religious cult or even

worse. So I'm hard pressed to see why the prickliness; sure you might feel offended if some one commits what in your

own estimation might be sacrilege but to the person inquiring is just plain curiousity.




still @ neoteny

as for our nigerian endless wahala in the context faith religion mostly it is the fault of severely miseducated islamist clerics and a ready bunch of illiterate, neglected street urchins who have none of the driving goals of material and intellectual acquisition that compel the rest of us to value life; and hence they play into the hands of the fiery uneducated clerics.


I would disagree with you on that point. While trying to gather what I felt should be general knowledge about

Islam, my enquiries were met with great hostility from people who should know better- intellectuals; people who are

supposedly exposed to the finer things in life, Like I mentioned earlier, religious issues are very emotive and nobody ever wins

argument. However, I still feel that the muslims or those who are pro-muslims are still missing the point, which is simply- when a

question is asked of Islam, why is there not a straightforward answer without all the vitrolics

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I would definitely want to slap the fake accent out of Stephanie Okereke's mouth, Desmond Elliot's as well so he would

stop screaming so much when he's angry, Thelma O'Khaz for those ridiculous lined eyebrows and all the bleached ones

for their multi-coloured skin