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Health / Re: COVID-19: Ibrahim Shetima Tests Positive Again by fortran123: 8:25am On Apr 08, 2020
NaijaRoyalty:


Stop acting all intelligent because you've proven not to be .


See kink below where he tested negative only for the virus to resurface .

https://t.guardian.ng/news/uch-cmd-tests-negative-for-covid-19/



It was the CMD Prof. otegbayo that tested negative according to your link . the nairaland post mentions Ibrahim Shetima. It's sensational journalism. The news is confusing and not making any sense.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Social Etiquette: Guarding Your Tongue by fortran123: 1:05pm On Apr 05, 2020
Keep banning all that counter your lies
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 9:04am On Dec 21, 2019
Snowale:
Can you speak Arabic, or you are just blabbing what you know nothing about? Arabic isn't English, and there is nothing like what you said in Arabic

The sahih muslim , Mohammed says "I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah, and he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf except for the right affairs rest with Allah"

and the translation for the word fight ( يقاتل ) is fighting in a war , and am sure you know in wars people are killed. The statement shows mohammed is the aggressor, because of the latter part of the statement "he who professed it was guaranteed the protection of his property and life on my behalf " - anyone that agrees with my claim will not have his property looted and me and my jihadis will not kill him.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 8:54am On Dec 21, 2019
it mentions they must speak arabic so that is the link to my response

AntiChristian:


Did you read the post well at all?

The first list shows who people call Muslim cleric.

The Second shows who truly is a Cleric.

lipsrsealed
Politics / Re: CJN: ‘Sharia Law Is Not Islamisation Of Nigeria’ - Islamic Scholars by fortran123: 8:15pm On Dec 20, 2019
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 3:16pm On Dec 20, 2019
AntiChristian:


And how is that related to the thread?
Logic is really important.
See the list of criteria an imam must have and make the connection
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 12:54pm On Dec 20, 2019
AntiChristian:


This is true of English too. Just that you are blind to it. There are contexts! There are settings! There are idioms, etc.

He fought his case at the high court.

He fought him (with words) on Nairaland.

God commanded Moses and he fought and killed them all.

Does "fought "mean the same in the above sentences? A layman with the meaning of fight as meaning direct action towards another may not grasp the meaning of the above.

And how is that related to the thread?
How not all imams understand Arabic
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 12:52pm On Dec 20, 2019
Snowale:
Can you speak Arabic, or you are just blabbing what you know nothing about? Arabic isn't English, and there is nothing like what you said in Arabic
Shows you know nothing about arabic except what the Qur'an tells you. I will show you what I mean. Gimme some time
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 11:30am On Dec 20, 2019
AntiChristian:


What does this mean?

Means lots of muslims can only recite the quran's arabic and they do not speak arabic itself. So its the arabic the quran presents to them they have knowledge of. Arabic is older than the quran and the quran tries to create its own version of arabic which is false. There are some verses in the quran mentioning the word fight, the quran paints it as "struggle , fight in self defense etc" but the original arabic word means "fight to kill"

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Disrespecting The Graves by fortran123: 11:24am On Dec 20, 2019
Rashduct4luv:


You won't be able to find any save a weak argument.

We have unfinished business.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Disrespecting The Graves by fortran123: 10:43am On Dec 20, 2019
Rashduct4luv:
Question
In our village the graves have been subjected to disrespect. The graveyard has become a pathway for camels, cattle and goats, and a route for cars. Even worse than that, some people have applied to build on the graves. What is your view about this matter?

Is sitting on graves OK?

Answer
Praise be to Allaah.
This is not permissible, because it is not permissible to interfere with graves in any way so long as any remains of the dead are still to be found in them. The sanctity of the dead is like the sanctity of the living. So it is not permissible to subject graves to any disrespect, whether by stepping on them, making them pathways, praying in the graveyard, or making them part of people’s dwelling-places. None of these things are allowed, unless the occupants of the graves have turned to dust and there is nothing left of their bodies. In that case, it is OK to use the graveyards for fields or houses or other purposes. But so long as any trace of the dead bodies are left, it is not permissible to use them or walk on them, because the dead Muslim came to this place before you; he got there first so he has more right to it. His sanctity when he is dead is the same as his sanctity when he was alive.

When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw a man step on a grave, he said: “If one of you were to sit on a live coal that burned his garment and reached his skin, that would be better for him than sitting on a grave.” (Narrated by Muslim, 9711; Abu Dawood, 3228).This is a warning, because of the disrespect towards that Muslim that is involved.

The scholars stated that it is haraam to relieve oneself in between graves, and that it is not permitted to sit on a grave, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not sit on graves, and do not pray towards them.”
(Narrated by Muslim, no. 972; Abu Dawood, no. 3229). We should not lean on graves, or step on them, or show any disrespect towards them; all of that is not allowed. And Allaah is the Source of strength.

Source: From Fataawa Al-Shaykh ‘Abd-Allaah Ibn Humayd, P. 161
IslamQA
no comment, i will find one soon!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Who Wrote The Qur’aan And How Was It Put Together? by fortran123: 10:41am On Dec 20, 2019
Rashduct4luv:
Question
Who wrote the Qur’aan and how was it put together?

Answer
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:
Allaah has guaranteed to preserve this Qur’aan Himself. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9]

Ibn Jareer al-Tabari said in his Tafseer, 14/8:
Allaah is saying, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (Reminder), i.e. the Qur’aan, and We will guard the Qur’aan against anything false being added to it that is not part of it, or anything that is part of it being taken away, whether that has to do with rulings, hudood punishments or matters having to do with inheritance.

Al-Sa’di said in his Tafseer (p. 696):
It is We Who have sent down the Qur’aan in which there is mention of all issues and clear evidence, and in which We remind those who want to be reminded.

“and surely, We will guard it” means, when it is being revealed and after it has been revealed. When it is revealed, We protect it from the tampering of every accursed devil, and after it has been revealed Allaah instilled it in the heart of His Messenger. Allaah protected the words from being changed and from anything being added or taken away, or from its meanings being distorted. So no one can attempt to distort its meanings but Allaah will guide someone to explain the truth of the Qur’aan. This is one of the greatest signs of Allaah and His blessing to His believing slaves. Another aspect of this protection is that Allaah protects the people of the Qur’aan against their enemies, and no enemy can overpower them and eliminate them.

The Qur’aan was revealed to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in stages over a period of twenty-three years. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (it is) a Qur’aan which We have divided (into parts), in order that you might recite it to men at intervals. And We have revealed it by stages”
[al-Isra’ 17:106]

Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
This means, We have revealed this Qur’aan in stages, to differentiate between guidance and misguidance, between truth and falsehood.

“in order that you might recite it to men at intervals” means, slowly, so that they may ponder and think about its meanings, and understand the different branches of knowledge contained therein.

“And We have revealed it by stages” means, gradually, over a period of twenty-three years.
Tafseer al-Sa’di, p. 760.

Secondly:
Literacy was not widespread among the Arabs. Allaah described them in such terms when He said (interpretation of the meaning):

“He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad) from among themselves”
[al-Jumu’ah 63:2]

They used to memorize the Qur’aan by heart, and a few of them used to write down some verses or soorahs on animal skins, thin white stones and the like.

Thirdly:
At first the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade the writing of anything other than the Qur’aan, and he forbade them to write down his words for a while, so that the Sahaabah would focus on memorizing the Qur’aan and writing it down, and so that the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would not be confused with the words of Allaah, and so the Qur’aan was protected from anything being added or taken away.

Fourthly:
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) appointed a group of his companions who were trustworthy and knowledgeable to write down the revelation. They are known in their biographies as those who wrote down the Revelation, such as the four Caliphs, ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr ibn al-‘Aas, Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan, Zayd ibn Thaabit and others – may Allaah be pleased with them all.

Fifthly:
The Qur’aan was revealed in seven dialects as was narrated in the saheeh hadeeth of ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This was narrated by al-Bukhaari (2287) and Muslim (818); these were the dialects of the Arabs which were known for their eloquence.

Sixthly:
The Qur’aan continued to be preserved in the hearts of the Sahaabah who had memorized it, and on the skins and other materials until the time of the caliph Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him). During the Riddah wars many of the Sahaabah who had memorized the Qur’aan were killed, and Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) was afraid that the Qur’aan would be lost. So he consulted the senior Sahaabah about compiling the Qur’aan in a single book so that it would remain preserved and would not be lost. He entrusted this mission to the chief of memorizers Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him). Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (4986) that Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) said:

Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq sent for me when the people of al-Yamaamah had been killed [i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against the false prophet Musaylimah]. (I went to him) and found ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), “ ‘Umar has come to me and said: ‘Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the Qur'aan (i.e. those who knew the Qur’aan by heart) on the day of the battle of al-Yamaamah, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur’aan may be lost. Therefore I suggest that you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur’aan be collected.” I said to 'Umar, "How can you do something that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do?" 'Umar said, "By Allah, this is something good." 'Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allaah opened my heart to it and I began to realize the good in the idea which 'Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). “You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur’aan and compile it in one book." By Allah If they had ordered me to move one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to compile the Qur’aan. Then I said (to Abu Bakr), "How can you do something that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allaah, it is a good thing." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allaah opened my heart to that to which He had opened the hearts of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. So I started looking for the Qur’aan and collecting it from (what it was written on) palm stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, until I found the last Verse of Soorat al-Tawbah with Abu Khuzaymah al-Ansaari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The verse is (interpretation of the meaning):

"Verily, there has come unto you a Messenger (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty...” [al-Tawbah 9:128] until the end of Soorat Baraa’ah (i.e., al-Tawbah).

Then the complete manuscript (copy) of the Qur’aan remained with Abu Bakr until he died, then with 'Umar until the end of his life, and then with Hafsah, the daughter of 'Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him).

The Sahaabi Zayd ibn Thaabit (may Allaah be pleased with him) knew the Qur’aan by heart but he was methodical in his confirmation; he would not agree to write down any verse until two of the Sahaabah testified that they had heard it from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

This Mus-haf (written copy of the Qur’aan) remained in the hands of the caliphs until the time of the Rightly-Guided Caliph ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan (may Allaah be pleased with him). The Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) had dispersed to different lands, and they used to recite the Qur’aan according to what they had heard of the seven recitations from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and each of their students used to recite according to what he had heard from his shaykh. If a student heard someone reciting in a manner different from what he knew, he would denounce him and accuse him of making a mistake, and this went on until the Sahaabah feared that there would be fitnah (trouble) between the Taabi’een and successive generations. So they thought that they should unite the people in following one recitation, which was in the dialect of Quraysh in which the Qur’aan had first been revealed, so as to dispel any disputes and resolve the matter. ‘Uthmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) was consulted, and he agreed with this opinion.

Al-Bukhaari narrated in his Saheeh (4988) from Anas ibn Maalik that Hudhayfah ibn al-Yamaan came to ‘Uthmaan at the time when the people of Shaam (Syria) and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Armenia and Azerbaijan. Hudhayfah was alarmed by their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Qur’aan, so he said to 'Uthmaan, "O Ameer al-Mu’mineen! Save this nation before they dispute about the Book (Qur’aan) as the Jews and the Christians did before." So 'Uthmaan sent a message to Hafsah saying, "Send us the manuscript of the Qur’aan so that we may make copies of the Mus-haf and we will return the manuscript to you."

Hafsah sent it to 'Uthmaan. Then 'Uthmaan ordered Zayd ibn Thaabit, 'Abdullah ibn al-Zubayr, Sa’eed ibn al-‘Aas and ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Haarith ibn Hishaam to copy out the manuscripts. 'Uthmaan said to the three men who were from Quraysh (the tribe of which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was a member), “In case you disagree with Zayd ibn Thaabit on any point in the Qur’aan, then write it in the dialect of Quraysh, for the Qur’aan was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, 'Uthmaan returned the original manuscripts to Hafsah.

'Uthmaan sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Qur'aanic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.

Ibn Shihaab said: Khaarijah ibn Zayd ibn Thaabit told me that he heard Zayd ibn Thaabit say: “When we made copies of the Mus-haf I missed a verse of al-Ahzaab that I used to hear the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) recite. So we searched for it and we found it with Khuzaymah ibn Thaabit al-Ansaari. (The verse was) ‘Among the believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allaah’ [al-Ahzaab 33:23 – interpretation of the meaning]. So we put it in its place in its soorah in the Mus-haf.”

Thus an end was put to dispute and the Muslims were united. The Qur’aan has remained and will remain narrated from generation to generation and preserved in men's hearts until the Day of Resurrection. This is how Allaah has preserved His Book, in confirmation of the verse in which He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur’aan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption)”
[al-Hijr 15:9]

And Allaah knows best.

Source

It was plagiarized from several sources. From religious books available at mohammed's time. It even contain poems stolen from Imrau'l Qais.
Cos it was taken from various sources that explains the historical inaccuracies like Jesus being the nephew of Moses, Abraham's father's name is "foolish"etc

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Islam for Muslims / Re: The Traits Of A True Islamic Cleric! by fortran123: 10:36am On Dec 20, 2019
AbuTwins:
The Definition of a Muslim Cleric (Alfa) in Nigeria varies according to many.

People would call you an Alfa in as much as you:

i.. Put on the Muslim type cap/robe sometimes or most times.

ii. Pray the Muslim pray sometimes or most of the times or attend the Friday prayer in Muslim robe.

iii. Can be free from major sins like fornication, intoxicants, interest, while appearing as a Muslim.

iv. can perform magic, mix things together, consult the jinns and make people's dream come true or check the unknown for them.

v. Can officiate Islamic functions and generate money to be shared.

vi. possess knowledge, wisdom and understanding of Islam (doesn't matter whether the knowledge is +ve or error-filled)

vii. can speak Arabic.

viii. Keep beards, his garments does not pass the ankles...

E.t.c.

But in reality the authentic Alfa is one who is truly conscious of his Lord......

1. He follows the Qur'an and the Sunnah according to the pious predecessors. This he learns and teaches. Whatever the Prophet commands he follows and whatever the Prophet forbids he stays away from. The Prophet Muhammad is his role model.

2. He earns halal wealth. Thers is nothing wrong if He has a job or a vocation. He flees from all kinds of Haram i.e. fortunetelling, Charm Peddling, 419, Extortion, etc.

3. He is free from major sins. He is quick to admit his fault and repent whenever he falls.

Not understanding the arabic language but can only read the arabic in the quran. 4.23 % of the world speaks arabic - source (https://www.listsworld.com/top-10-languages-most-spoken-worldwide/) and majority of them do not reside in Nigeria.
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 10:38pm On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


Get behind me Satan!
If it makes you sleep at night!
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 2:58pm On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


Your God called one of his disciple Satan!
Let me call you satan too!
Lol. He made a statement he was not refering to Peter. Bring up another case. This one is dead. Can't you see your argument is lame? It needs crutches

Bring your strong point, am waiting.
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 12:48pm On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


He was not speaking like this? Do you mean I am a liar? or the Bible verses I quoted is erroneous? The Bible must have lied that Jesus the Christian God called people snakes, foolish and even called Peter Satan!

Listen to yourself. Let me logically analyse what I said " he did not speak to his disciples like this" am sure you are aware he spoke to several people not just his disciples. The people he called snakes etc are the religious leaders cos of their conduct.
So can you see all your argument makes no sense. Like I stated earlier people have different temperaments. Not everyone is soft spoken. Jesus does not sugar coat words and his words are evidence.
I do not see any crime committed. Bring me something else. Is this the best you can come up with? Also what do you stand for.
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 9:20am On Dec 19, 2019
AntiChristian:


So tell us how many times your Pastors have called you guys foolish, Snakes and Satan since your are all Christ-like in behavior?
You tried with me it did not work now you want me speaking for a pastor. People are different we do not have the same temperament and you know this. Your case here is dead on arrival. Bring me something else. What do you stand for so I can know how best to communicate with you.

PS: Jesus was not speaking like this to his disciples. Bring me an actual crime he committed.
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 3:17pm On Dec 18, 2019
AntiChristian:


When you preach to Muslims and other non-Christians have you ever copied this example?
I don't preach to Muslims I gist with them. Personalities are different i don't expect every one to be alike.
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 12:53pm On Dec 18, 2019
AntiChristian:


Now Open your Bible and explain the context!

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

Read the whole chapter don't be lazy. I dnt see anything wrong in these statements. He is not asking or advocating violence against anyone. He Pharisees were very corrupt people, read the history about how they partnered with the Roman government to extort people and all the embezzlement they were involved in.
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 10:37am On Dec 18, 2019
AntiChristian:


Five is not OK abi, Do you need more? grin Please reply. I can see you are very active in the Islamic section. Be active here too!

The point is you pick it all out of context, you do not know the history surrounding any of the scenarios. Jesus was not afraid to speak and he did not sugar coat his words. Do some study and not just pick what seems to you as "violent".
PS: I am not expecting more I need a strong argument not just random verses.
Sports / Re: The Audi Cars Gifted To Real Madrid Players For Christmas by fortran123: 10:14pm On Dec 17, 2019
Herrmes:
They get new ones ever year bro.
They replace the cars as long as they madrid players, once they leave they return the car except the wanna purchase
Sports / Re: The Audi Cars Gifted To Real Madrid Players For Christmas by fortran123: 8:22pm On Dec 17, 2019
Wrong title, the cars were lent to them. They will return once they leave or season ends
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Ronaldo Refuses To Wear Captain's Armband And Hands It To Matuidi by fortran123: 6:28pm On Dec 17, 2019
obembet:
Cristiano Ronaldo refused to take the captain's armband during Juventus' 3-1 win over Udinese, instead preferring to pass it on to Blaise Matuidi due to the Frenchman's seniority in the side.

The Portuguese superstar was given the armband by Gonzalo Higuain who had inherited it from Leonardo Bonucci following the Italian's withdrawal.

When the Argentine was substituted, he passed it to Ronaldo but, due to seniority, instead decided to give it to Matuidi.


Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UJkOj849-Q

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/12/16/5df759ca268e3e8b3d8b45d2.html
He felt Bonucci should have given him instead of Gonzalo

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Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 6:19pm On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:


Copy out your own Bible verses for Matthew 23:33, Luke 11:40, Matthew 16:23, John 2:15.
Out of all the statements he made you pick like 5 and say he can't preach. What sort of analysis is that?
Religion / Re: The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly by fortran123: 11:26am On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:
The Biblical Jesus Didn't Know How To Preach Properly

Jesus wasn't a good preacher...

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

What type of perfect role model is this to follow? He went around insulting people while he preached, while at the same time he told his followers to show love to their enemies? He even went so far as calling one of his disciples "Satan"!! Why couldn't Jesus be more patient and hold his tongue?

Jesus even got a bit physical at times...

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

What authority did Jesus have to do such a thing? This story seems to teach us that vigilantism is okay at times.

Cherry picking, or your number of pages in your bible is incomplete. try again
Islam for Muslims / Re: At What Age Would You Suggest Marriage To Your Daughter? by fortran123: 11:05am On Dec 17, 2019
AntiChristian:


Keep Mute! You even mentioned that your God died! And I am meant to follow a God that died for three days! Can the father die too? Since Jesus said he is one with the father in John 10:30
Can the Spirit die too?


Leave Rashduct and come embrace AntiChristian....come to my threads please!
Tag me in any one and I will respond. God is trinity just as you are trinity too, just that your own trinity is not able to separate themselves. You have a spirit, soul and body, that is trinity. So that idea of Jesus to die and resurrect to pay for sin was a grand plan no one saw coming not even the devil.
Islam for Muslims / Re: At What Age Would You Suggest Marriage To Your Daughter? by fortran123: 8:18am On Dec 17, 2019
Rashduct4luv:


And the name Christian was a manmade name. It was never mentioned in the entire Bible by Jesus! Maybe he forgot.
.
It makes no difference what the name is called, its the meaning that matters. Jesus had people who followed him and they were called his disciples. After his death n ascension more people became disciples n others called them Christians. The point is if you follow Jesus you are called a Christian. The main point is to follow Jesus.
Just like asking where Trinity is in the bible. Trinity is just a name, or could have been called holy trios, holy triple etc. But as long as the concept of God manifesting in 3 persons is what the name depicts the name does not matter.
Islam for Muslims / Re: At What Age Would You Suggest Marriage To Your Daughter? by fortran123: 6:25pm On Dec 16, 2019
Rashduct4luv:


Of cos.

You can point a verse in the Bible where the name "Christianity" was mentioned/used when Jesus Christ was alive. Do this and i will deactivate this account!
Christianity is the religion for Christians and they were called Christians cos they behaved like Christ.

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Islam for Muslims / Re: At What Age Would You Suggest Marriage To Your Daughter? by fortran123: 6:22pm On Dec 16, 2019
6 or 9 just like .......
Islam for Muslims / Re: Reciting Al­fatiha Behind An Imam In The Prayer by fortran123: 12:17pm On Dec 16, 2019
Abass1Toheeb:
The day I heard Jesus was a Jew, I asked my self who invented the Christianity my other brothers belief in..
Christianity was not invented. Jesus' disciples were called Christians cos of their behavior like Christ, hence Christianity.
Celebrities / Re: Mompha Makes First Post On Instagram After His Release by fortran123: 8:15pm On Dec 13, 2019
Davash222:
Mompha is free
Sowore is still in detention

Nigeria summarized!!
Did they commit the same offence?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: The Truth Concerning The Prophet's Marriage To Safiyyah Bint Huyay Ibn Akhtab by fortran123: 2:44pm On Dec 13, 2019
Rashduct4luv:


No, we can talk both together. If you are not accepting the OP then i am not accepting your proposal.
Answer my question and I will answer yours since I asked first.

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