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Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 7:58pm On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I am able but not willing to give that feedback. God is more than able to do that for you. Okay. Thank you for your feedback on my belief. Keep on enjoying your walk with the Lord. I am also enjoying mine. Blessings. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 3:53pm On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: "....what I have said so far is what Jesus Christ taught... " is not true. No one is clinging to doctrines and traditions on this side of the internet. You may want to check elsewhere. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 3:35pm On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: There is nothing to think about. Your school of thought on faith is obviously not the same as mine. Goodluck with your beliefs. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 2:30pm On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: So marriage counselors are sinners? Which church did Christ build Himself? A church is simply a gathering of believers who also make up the body of Christ. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 2:04pm On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: You did not make any correction. You simply expressed your own opinions and I am tolerant. So, what is the relationship between the gospel of Jesus Christ and premarital kissing? And yes, Jesus went about teaching people, the multitidude, not just his followers. And He actually taught on lust and answered questions on divorce. "Your churches" implies that you do not belong to a church right? |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 7:58am On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Really? You didn't even admit that you are a Christian. You just expected people to fill in the gap. Thanks for your concern but to be real with you, I am neither moved by your accusations nor convinced by your unclear evidences from the scriptures. Plus, saying that avoiding premarital kissing is a not a good measure towards avoiding premarital sex is not suitable because the same avoidance has worked and is still working for some people. And though affectionate kissing between unmarried couples is not stated as a sin in the Bible (which I have severally pointed out), you can start going to churches and fellowships to tell Christians that are dating or courting that "there is nothing wrong with kissing before marriage as this is the truth of Jesus Christ" and let's see the response you'd get from Christian leaders. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 2:36am On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Sorry but my opinion does not require your validation. It was not shared to receive anyone's validation or criticism and if you had checked through the thread properly, you would have noticed that it's an open invitation for people to share their opinions on the subject matter. It is not an attempt to judge other people or have their opinions censured. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 12:22am On Sep 18, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: "My opinion dishonoured God." Very funny and I disagree. You called my opinion a doctrine. How so? I'm not asking others to emulate me. It's all about what works for me. There's a logical disconnect in your conclusion. I didn't call kissing a sin. That deduction is wrong. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 7:35pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: So, is avoiding premarital kissing (which is the subject of discussion here) disobedience to God's commandment? Uh, really, you seem mistaken. My opinion honours God. God's commandments does not include kissing or not kissing before marriage. If in doubt, you can ask Him or consult His word. Plus, I did not tell you God approves or disapproves kissing. I told you He disapproves premarital sex which I would rather avoid by taking precautions including preventing premarital kissing. I may be spiritual but I am not a superman. I know my limits. You do not come across as someone that respects other people's opinion. So, how do you intend to effect change? When it comes to beliefs, you inspire change by presenting something obviously better. You don't force it or try to effect it by tramping on other people's opinion. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 6:30pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
adg98: Hmm. Please, why do you think it's wrong ma? |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 6:06pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: If your intention is to change my belief on premarital kissing. Thanks for your concern but it's going to be a waste of time. Plus, God does not force His commandments on people, He gives us the opportunity to choose. It's called free will. Finally, I cannot over explain my reason for avoiding premarital kissing. It has been simply explained already. God bless you. Since you implied that my reason is not biblical and you want to sound like you know a lot about God, please educate our ignorance. Tell us about God. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 5:41pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Please, let me remind you. The purpose of this thread is to have people regardless of their religion or faith share their belief on whether or not premarital kissing is wrong. They are to also state the reason for their belief. In my case (and I have a right to hold my own opinions just like any other person), I choose to see it as something wrong. My reason is based on the fact that I am a Christian and the Bible says I should flee from all appearances of evil. The Bible does not say premarital romantic kissing is evil. But it does say that premarital sex is a sin and sinning is not good. Therefore, premarital sex is evil. As such, I choose to flee from its appearance. And what is its appearance? Its appearance is something that could lead to it. For me, kissing is included because it is one of the things that could lead to premarital sex. I know myself. I am very curious. Though I am disciplined, I'd rather put structures that would prevent sin from having its place in my life intact. I am sure that is better than putting myself to test or claiming to be a superman. So, I know that if I am really attracted to someone and we choose to be kissing when we are alone I might be tempted to go further. Make no mistake, there are many serious and god-fearing and God-loving Christian folks that have fornicated accidentally and have had to get married before schedule because they sinned and pregnancies emerged. Therefore, it pays me to learn from other people's mistakes and put the right structures in place. So for me, kissing can lead to sin and should be avoided. For me (not anyone else), no kissing before marriage. It can wait. As a Christian, God has everything to do with my opinions. The meaning of Christian is Christ-like. It means someone who wants to be like Christ. So, if Christ were to be a normal guy that's in a relationship with a pretty lady here on earth, would kissing be something He would want to do if He knew it could lead Him to hurting God? I don't think so. Besides God determines my opinions because if not for Him, I might be a really bad person. I might be so bad that even you would say it would have been better if I were a Christian. Or at best, I might just be an awesome moralist. But I like it the way I am. Of course you're not Brother Paul and you're probably not a follower of Jesus. So like I said earlier, sorry for the assumption. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 4:56pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Okay. Now I get you. You believe that premarital kissing is not wrong because God did not list it as a sin (perhaps, you're referring to the Bible as you did not mention your faith in any of your comments). Sorry for calling you beloved. It's what Paul called his fellow Christians in the Bible. I was wrong to have assumed you're a Christian. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 4:30pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The kissing he/she was talking about is affectionate kissing between folks in a premarital relationship. It's not the one you're talking about. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 4:23pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Hey, please calm down sir or ma. I can feel your aggression over the www. In fact, you sounded as if something will happen if you did not share your opinion. We are simply reasoning together here and explaining the bases. Dearly beloved, just to remind you in case you did not notice, the kissing I mentioned here is not for greeting. So, that absolutely weakens your argument. But, if I somewhat get you, your opinion is that kissing before marriage cannot lead to premarital sex no matter how intense or passionate the kissing is. However, in your answer, you did not mention why premarital kissing is not wrong. But thanks for voicing your opinion. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 12:18pm On Sep 17, 2021 |
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Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 11:49am On Sep 17, 2021 |
LLSAINT: Please sir, which one is Nigerian kiss? I thought kissing was originally an element of western culture. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 11:47am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Bolarineliza202: You made your point already and I think it's valid but I'm afraid that using Judas Iscariot's kiss as an example does not apply. Judas' kiss was a sign of greeting which is an element of the western culture. It was not an act of affection. If it was, we would have said Judas was probably gay. But that was not the case. 1 Like |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 10:43am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Iyaebe: Unfortunately, the dictionary meaning of fornication is an act of sexual intercourse by an unmarried person and kissing is basically a show of affection or a sign of greeting. It is not classified as fornication. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 10:35am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Jerewise332: Please, why in your opinion is it not good and how did you come to that conclusion? |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 10:34am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Sonnobax15: So, if I get you right, even if you love your partner so much that you could do almost anything for her and she shares the same passion but would rather have you wait till marriage before any form of testing, you would leave her? |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 10:30am On Sep 17, 2021 |
lilvicky68: Interesting. Well, it's always good to know yourself and your vulnerabilities. |
Romance / Re: Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 10:23am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Sonnobax15: Lol. Hmm. I get your point and you definitely have the right to your opinion. But what could happen if you refrain from kissing or testing as you mentioned? Also, is kissing classified as sexual immorality? Is it a sexual act? |
Romance / Is It Wrong To Kiss Before Marriage? by GoodAndGrateful: 9:49am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Some folks believe that it is wrong to kiss before marriage but they have no logical reason for holding such belief. Do you believe it is wrong? If yes, what is the basis of your belief? All opinions are welcomed regardless of religious disposition. The purpose of this thread is to enlighten one another. I'll start with myself. I believe that kissing before marriage is wrong because it could lead to premarital sex which is actually wrong. I hold this belief because I am actually a Christian and the Bible says that premarital sex is an example of sin. Though kissing before marriage is not said to be a sin in the Bible, since it could lead to sin, I choose to flee from it. What's your own opinion on the issue? |
Romance / Re: Twitter Guy Dates Wife 3 Years Without Kissing. by GoodAndGrateful: 9:09am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Lollittaa: Well, I think it will encourage those who don't want to try out things before marriage to remain focused. But for Christian folks generally, what he said should be commonplace because not kissing before marriage should be the standard. While I have not read in the Bible that kissing before marriage is wrong, I believe that premarital sex or fornication which is an example of sin could start from kissing. So that's one reason why it should be avoided. It all depends on the standard of the persons involved in a relationship. If they both choose the Bible, premarital sex is out and kissing could be too. Otherwise, they have the potential to do more than having sex before marriage. Cohabitation wouldn't even be an issue. 1 Like |
Educational Services / Urgent Information Needed On SEVIS (SEVP) by GoodAndGrateful: 3:30am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Please I urgently need information on how to pay for SEVIS ahead of application for US F-1 visa from Nigeria. Please I'd appreciate it if you can offer me useful information on how to achieve this goal. Thank you so much in advance. |
Celebrities / Re: Lanre Gentry Shades Mercy Aigbe: Thank God I Did Not Marry What I Can’t Handle by GoodAndGrateful: 3:22am On Sep 17, 2021 |
Lollittaa: Tell them please. |
Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode: God Told Me To Join APC by GoodAndGrateful: 2:48am On Sep 17, 2021 |
ODeva: God bless you my sister. But with all he has had to say in time past, he must give a reason which, according to him, is based on his access to spiritual direction. 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Femi Fani-Kayode: God Told Me To Join APC by GoodAndGrateful: 2:41am On Sep 17, 2021 |
aminulive: Very interesting. Dear FFF, the question is, how did you yourself know that it was God that told you and how are we supposed to believe that it is not the status of your bank account that inspired you? |
Romance / Re: Tanzanian Lady Storms Streets In A Wedding Gown In Search Of A Husband by GoodAndGrateful: 2:29am On Sep 17, 2021 |
FutureIsFemale: Sweetheart please tell him o. He doesn't know you're waiting to hear from God on the issue. The real babe that all the guys are talking about. And, Dear Heavenly Father, please tell her I'm available on time o. Open the eyes of her mind and the doors of her heart. |
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