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Religion / Re: Christians, Why Do You Hate Richard Dawkins this much? by hopefuLandlord: 10:42am On Oct 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: @bolded Chai!!! |
Religion / Re: Christians, Why Do You Hate Richard Dawkins this much? by hopefuLandlord: 10:32am On Oct 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod:
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Religion / Re: Christians, Why Do You Hate Richard Dawkins this much? by hopefuLandlord: 10:22am On Oct 31, 2016 |
winner01: you're turning to Naijadeyhia bit by bit |
Religion / Re: Christians, Why Do You Hate Richard Dawkins this much? by hopefuLandlord: 10:14am On Oct 31, 2016 |
winner01: lol you said the exact same thing you said someone is agreeing with "my stupidity" I replied that using the words "your stupidity" then ooopppss! I'm banned I'm not crying anyways, just pointing things out because I know some of you that would've opened a thread for same |
Religion / Re: What Really Is The Purpose Behind Dis Picture by hopefuLandlord: 10:06am On Oct 31, 2016 |
considering the number of such pictures I scroll past, I should have died many times over |
Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 10:03am On Oct 31, 2016 |
mctowel01: interesting |
Religion / Re: Christians, Why Do You Hate Richard Dawkins this much? by hopefuLandlord: 9:57am On Oct 31, 2016 |
EyeHateGod: he also has over 200 topics on Islam with his 2 Truthman monickers |
Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 3:51pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Luckymay: I would advice you keep going to church until you're not dependent on your parents like when you're on your own, being tagged witch and Miami water can lead to seriously bad consequences especially in an ultra religious country like Nigeria because most people start believing you're one Most atheists in Nigeria profess one religion or the other for a reason 2 Likes |
Religion / Re: A Thread Strictly On Evolution And Its Many Fallacies. Seun Alone by hopefuLandlord: 3:22pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
naijadeyhia:
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Religion / Re: A Thread Strictly On Evolution And Its Many Fallacies. Seun Alone by hopefuLandlord: 9:04pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Huehuehuehuehuehue 1 Like
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Religion / Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by hopefuLandlord: 5:19pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
analice107:
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Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 5:02pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Exactly what I'm tryna say A gay couple for instance can retire into their home, put on the AC, lock all doors, windows and anything that people can see them through, once all these things are done, they have close to zero chance of being caught Compared to............ |
Religion / Re: Overcoming The Fear Of Hell FIRE: A Response To Atheists And Their Likes by hopefuLandlord: 4:52pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
analice107: How did most of the twelve disciples who believed in Yahweh and Jesus fare? https://www.nairaland.com/3014335/how-12-apostles-jesus-christ |
Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 4:42pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: You can't compare the two though Homosexuals for instance would be very careful not to get caught They can "reduce" their chances of being caught to a near zero by taking certain precautions; they know that if they have enough privacy, no one can possibly catch them But in the case of people who believe in hell fire, especially Christians, you believe you can't possibly hide it from Yahweh and you can die while in the act, yet still go ahead and commit sin anyways |
Religion / Re: 1111 by hopefuLandlord: 4:32pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
According to these people, they're doing nothing wrong In fact, they believe they're doing the right thing and anyone that isn't doing like them is against "the right thing" That's religion for you |
Religion / Re: Pastor: "Women See The Manhood Size Of Your Man Before Marriage" by hopefuLandlord: 4:24pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AnonyNymous:
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Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 8:10pm On Aug 24, 2016 |
kilo4sure: Bros, not every atheist accept the big bang theory bro If you ask me how we came about, I'll simply say "I don't know" but most people just fill that gap in knowledge with an imaginary being But like I said; the world is NOT perfect, it could be better |
Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 8:09pm On Aug 24, 2016 |
Efewestern: Saying its "perfect" is totally wrong, you need to study more about how our solar system operates, go deeper in it and you'll know its FAR from perfect "Well organised" can be misleading, since there's even organization in chaos if you look hard enough
You need to study a lot of other animals bro, like The dusky antechinus and others, Google is your friend And about originating from nothing; I DON'T KNOW, but I won't fill that gap with an imaginary being either
I am not mad with religion or god bro, that's a misconception |
Religion / Re: Some Benefits Of Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 7:52pm On Aug 24, 2016 |
GiMngo:
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Religion / Re: The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 7:38pm On Aug 24, 2016 |
Efewestern: Bros, the world is NOT perfect
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Religion / Re: God Is Not Real: Facts To Prove It by hopefuLandlord: 6:36pm On Aug 24, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Excellent question |
Religion / Re: From Atheist To Church Planter: Pastor Alin On The Deficiency Of Atheism. by hopefuLandlord: 11:07am On Aug 24, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: You're excused |
Religion / Re: From Atheist To Church Planter: Pastor Alin On The Deficiency Of Atheism. by hopefuLandlord: 10:23am On Aug 24, 2016 |
naijadeyhia: Another monicker of yours I see |
Religion / Re: God Is Not Real: Facts To Prove It by hopefuLandlord: 10:21am On Aug 24, 2016 |
Pidggin: Why not tell your pathetic excuse of a "holy spirit" to reveal his/her name to you? Oh! He can't? Buhahahahhahaha 5 Likes 1 Share |
Religion / Re: Please Give Me One Good Reason Why I Should Go Back To God by hopefuLandlord: 10:06am On Aug 24, 2016 |
So you don't burn for eternity
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Religion / The Four Types Of Fear I Faced on my journey To Atheism by hopefuLandlord: 9:23am On Aug 24, 2016 |
DISCLAIMER: This post is about the fears I (Hopefullandlord) faced, I'm not saying such fears are what's keeping people theists but if you're a theist and the shoe fits, please wear it This is not a thread about HOW I became atheist; NO, its about the fears I had during my journey Atheism is something I actually became for a long before finally embracing it, this was long before I even knew what the word "atheism" means, so if there had never been an atheist before me, I would have been the first one Part of the reasons it took so long for me was FEAR, not having anyone around me to guide me on that path made me stick with theism for a long time Lets examine those fears that kept me theist 1 fear of failing in life due to lack of belief in god stories were told in churches, at house fellowship, at home, at school, at almost everywhere imaginable about people failing in businesses, academics, sports, marriage, health and other walks of life, and they kept failing until they met Jesus; after meeting Jesus, successes in their businesses, health, marriage, academics followed automatically; these stories usually sounds very spellbinding and are usually followed with the popular bible verse Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Mount Zion films also cemented this kind of fear, their films show all you need is Jesus Hey bro, you don't have any hand? No legs? You can still become a Ronaldo Delima if you believe Hey bro, you don't have a job? You can have a brand new car, a mansion and huge pile of hard bills in the next one minute if you believe I know I exaggerated in the two examples above but consider stories of a someone driving from Ore to Lagos on empty tank; someone reparking a Car that had no engine (that story was all over Facebook) our mathematics teacher who is one such born again was actually the most hungry looking out of all our teachers told us a story about a boy who didn't joke with his spiritual life, this boy according to him kept praying, fasting and attending fellowships; this actually took a toll on him when examination came as he was too busy facing spiritual life rather than reading; when results of the examination was out, he had the best result; naturally, we (the students or should I say audience) didn't believe this story at that point but our math teacher wasn't done, he said that boy passed because an angel appeared to him in the examination hall with answers, stood in front of him and told him to write those answers, no one could see the angel except this prayerful boy; we all believed the story ( secondary school brain) To someone that's used to hearing stories like these almost every month since birth, the message is very clear Jesus provides everything Ask anything with faith and you have it Such a fear was the easiest to overcome out of all my fears (it wasn't "easy" though) How I Overcame that fear I overcame that fear by keen observation, looking at the fact that the man or woman that prays the most is usually one of the poorest around "Born again" students fail while a doubter like me succeed with flying colours; I then started to wonder where that "examination Hall angel" was when those prayerful students were failing Seeing believers fail academically and me succeed actually made me realise that no matter the level of prayer you pray, you need to read, no angel would appear to you AND if you don't pray at all but read very well, you would definitely pass with flying colours This fear was conquered early on in my life which enabled me embrace atheism faster, do you know why? This is where it gets interesting As you grow older, such fears transform from something you have much more control over; eg academics which involves studying, seriousness and reading; basically everything is in your hands, hence easy to debunk the "examination hall angel" logic since all power belongs to YOU and YOU alone TO things that you have much lesser control over; e.g Businesses which depends on a lot of luck; once you become an adult with those fears, it would be very hard to shake off, it becomes a part of you, you start thinking you can NEVER succeed in anything without Jesus 2nd fear is fear of witches, wizards, principalities, powers, spiritual attacks from extended families e.t.c This was very hard for me to shake, growing up in Nigeria and hearing all sorts of stories about jazz being used on people kept me theist for many years too Stories of people being freed from nightmares and impending death by mentioning the name of Jesus, stories in "fire in the word" by MFM (I read this bulletin every week, it was 10 naira back then) Many tales of witchcraft attacks, tales about people using the name of Jesus to overcome those "attacks" There was even a story of ritual killers transporting a woman to the kill location, this woman then kept shouting the name of Jesus in the bus being used to transport her, this name started causing commotion among the kidnappers and they told her to shut up, she however kept shouting the name until one of the kidnappers had to shut her mouth with a duct tape, she then used her hand to write "Jesus" on the floor of the bus, commotion resumed among the kidnappers and they had to stop the bus to let her leave Stories of people that are born again being rejected by our local gods from being used as sacrifice while an unbeliever was accepted and sacrificed to the gods instead Stories of extended families using jazz to bring family members back from abroad Stories of love potions Stories of relatives using spiritual means to keep their family members from succeeding in life Stories of destinies being padlocked and thrown in the wilderness Stories of grandmothers preventing their grandchildren from succeeding through spiritual means Every Sunday, you're told these stories or their spinoffs These stories were being reiterated by Christian movies and even secular movies are not left out How I overcame that fear The "grandmother" one made me start to question everything, my grandmother would prevent me from succeeding? Pure hogwash Little by little, I started questioning each one Witchcraft; that was the second one, there was this girl that people call a witch in school, she was feared by all and tales abound, like co students falling sick after having issues with her, even a particular girl died because of that; one day, I had a disagreement with her, she slapped me and I beat the holy crhap out of her, I beat her knowing I'm dying anyways, all through the rest of that school day, I was looked upon with pity by fellow students, most of them believing they'll never see me again, well I guess you know if I survived or not, right? Your businesses and work fail because of anything but spiritual; I'm yet to see a business that keeps proper books fail without knowing the reason for the failure; t worst they fail due to bad luck As I grew up, that fear got smaller and smaller; I looked at the huge level of curses being directed at bosses in Nigeria, its a surprise such bosses didn't fall down and die; how could Babangida kill so many people and none of them think it worthy to use "spiritual means" to eliminate him? Those Indians that are known to exploit us, they are stil going strong Why can't that "spiritual means" be used to kill Boko Haram? Why is anybody even living since we should've all killed ourselves through those means since there would be someone somewhere who "deserves" those means That was tough to overcome but I did anyways 3 Fear of what my family members might think Hopefullandlord, What would your mother say? How would she feel? Your father? Have you thought about that? These words kept ringing in my brain This was not really a "fear" thing but just a case of being in limbo out of respect, my parents take spiritual matters very seriously This I overcame but I won't go into details because its more of a personal thing, what rocks my boat may sink yours 4 Fear of Yahweh himself, Hell fire and all This fear was the hardest, hell fire, I'm burning for eternity No one to save me, me and the devil who would torture me forever Movies, books, Christian magazines, bible, everything points to hell one way or another Here's the thing A visceral fear of something doesn't disappear automatically when you reason that the thing in question doesn't exist. You can still be scared of ghosts late at night just because it's late at night, even though you can clearly reason during a sunny afternoon that spirits are nonsense. Reason unfortunately doesn't override emotion just like that. It took time, fear of hell still remained for a long long time; early morning preachers use hell fire as theme; you hear of hell almost everywhere it kept cemented in my head and it was the HARDEST fear to overcome But I overcame by realising all Muslims are hellbound; no matter how good they lived their lives, I started thinking about the good Muslims around, I then determined that hell is the place for me, let me point out that I don't believe in hell but indoctrination can be an almost impossible thing to overcome So I started joking Elvis Presley, Fela and most of the popular people are going to hell, I won't be the only one there to be burning forever Once I overcame this fear, I realised the absurdity of hell fire, it doesn't make ANY sense Nothing I can do in this life warrants eternal torture Even if I kill everyone in the world, I still don't think it warrants eternal torture let alone going to hell because of a lack of belief Here's the thing; fear of Hell is an accident of your birth and not an indication of reality. Your parents/people around you taught you to fear Hell because they fear Hell. If you had been born to Hindus you would have been raised to believe in reincarnation. If you had been born a Viking you would have been taught that the only way to get into Heaven was to cross a rainbow bridge after dying gloriously in battle. And BTW Which hell? Christian hell? Muslim hell? Hades? Little by little, all these fears disappeared and I started taking full responsibility for my life, there's no witch that would prevent my success and I am succeeding There you have it; all the fears that gave Christianity "life support" in my life for a long time Thanks for the read 68 Likes 27 Shares |
Religion / Re: Why Does The Christian God Love To Massacre Millions Of Children? by hopefuLandlord: 7:05am On Aug 24, 2016 |
felixomor:Sure, since I've "saved" a "suicidal" Nairalandee before
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Religion / Re: Why Does The Christian God Love To Massacre Millions Of Children? by hopefuLandlord: 4:01am On Aug 24, 2016 |
felixomor:[size=13pt] Oh Tell that to your guys There's one of you that has about 15 accounts Theres even one of you that creates new ones then open a thread saying that new monicker wants to kill his/herself, he then uses his main monicker to "save" himself from suicide and brags about it Desperate Christians tryna stay relevant through any means possible even lying in the process is allowed All these in order to try to win some gullible converts [/size] |
Business / Re: N20,000 Changed To N10 Notes In Ibadan, Apata (Photos) by hopefuLandlord: 6:48pm On Aug 23, 2016 |
Its called "Sleight of Hands" 19 Likes 4 Shares |
Business / Re: N20,000 Changed To N10 Notes In Ibadan, Apata (Photos) by hopefuLandlord: 6:47pm On Aug 23, 2016 |
Hogwash 3 Likes |
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